Archaic pls leave

>>12331000 (OP)
Because /vp/ is retarded.
Look at all of them believe fairy is real just because Hiro said it. Fairy will be real, and if it's confirmed people will believe Hiro even more. Hiro just guessed, I really hope Hiro will losen it's credibility.

half of the /vp/ anons hate bulbapedia, the other half find it reliable.

Bulbapedia is run by hilariously incompetent staff and should be better known as LOCKFUCKINGEVERYTHINGpedia.

Of fucking course people will prefer Serebii.

>hate a Pokemon site other than smogon

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Bulbapedia is more reliable than Serebii for info, except for news.

>>12331045
>hating smogon

>>12331000 (OP)
>/vp/ is a single person

/vp/ doesn't hate Bulbagarden or Serebii, or any other Pokémon site. There are just (extremely) vocal minorities of fanboys that wank over each site.

>>12331052
>Bulbapedia is more reliable than Serebii for info

lel

>>12331045
>hating Smogon

>>12331000 (OP)
I know a friend who got mad at them because she tried to edit a wrong shit they had over there, they just reverted it and edited the same thing back again.

Some of bulbabitch's shit is wrong too.
>Not using both
>not using other sites to confirm
<being a faggot

>>12331058
>>12331098

> Smogonmind

>>12331000 (OP)
They're wrong more than Serebii. Their news is translated by Google Translate and is always late. When Black 2 & White 2 came out, Serebii was done with his coverage in July. Bulbapedia wasn't done until AFTER US launch.

You're bringing up an error Serebii made 11 years ago, when he was a kid with no sense of pride in his work. Get with the fucking times. If you're going to bash him, bash him for something recent

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>>12331044
With a hilariously incompetent leader, too.

>>12331136
What an interesting cosmetic feature.

Serebii= that kid who has nice toys but waves them in your face

Pokebeach= that kid who's quiet but when they speak they say something really bizarre and everyone stops talking to them

Bulbapedia= that kid who won't fucking shut up about every single little thing

Pokejungle= that kid who's dad works at Nintendo

>>12331136
>an error
>incompetence

/vp/ you are so conceited

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>>12331136
Just two days ago, they had their post where they said about the movie distribution Pokémon, with the OT of Cinema, the same as has been done for 7 years, but being distributed via IR in the Pokémon Centers.

They make shit up

Let's not forget the time they said Kyurem's forms were Shining Blue Black Kyurem & Blazing Red White Kyurem.

Oh, and the time they wrote about the time they misinterpeted Masuda's tweet saying "RS mean a lot to me" to mean "I will consider RS Remakes"

>not learning German and using pokewiki

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They're both pretty terrible, but Serebii's page layout makes me want to vomit.
I prefer Bulbapedia.

>>12331163
If it was soon after gender differences came, then yes it was an error. However, that was six years after female Pikachu was shown

>>12331000 (OP)
I use them for stuff like movesets and game help. i dont read much else there. that being said i dont hate them, /vp/ is just stupid and highly critical of every period and comma.

>>12331163
This was posted about half a year ago, and shows that Archaic didn't know Pokemon had gender differences at the time. Gender differences debuted in gen 4. Thinking they're something entirely new NOW is not "making an error".

If anything, I use bulbapedia because you can actually find the information you're looking for and it's all in one place.


Serebii is just a clusterfuck of bad web design and its black background, green sidebars, white typing and constantly-changing, horribly-photoshoped banners

>>12331223
And he's the webmaster of one of the top sites. How is that even possible?

>>12331272
agreed. I like Bulbapedia better and thats the only reason i go there. for the info.

>>12331272
I find Serebii's navigation to be sufficient now he has actually put headers in. Much better than Bulbagarden's search. That's not navigation. Plus, I don't like having to scroll through tons of shit just to get to the level up moves.

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>>12331169
mah nigga

>dat neat arrangement
>dat minimalist color scheme

People use Bulbapedia for X and Y info?

I thought everyone would just use it as a pedia, as in to look up the moves of a pokemon, for example.

I stopped using Bulbapedia when I got a virus off their site for the 5th time

Wait, people here hate Bulbapedia? This is news to me.

I don't know, I've always found it a great resource.

>>12331350
How the fuck is that possible?

>>12331363
Their ads, especially since they got bought by that HAVAMedia network, have often carried malware.

Back at the start of the year, google blocked them due to it while they were saying "No, it's an error on Google's part, just bypass it" even when there was evidence to the contrary.

>>12331354
>not knowing how much bullshit misinformation Bulbapedo has

>>12331354
I've seen them have so many errors. They're not trustworthy at all

>>12331386
For example?

I like Bulbapedia's structure a lot more personally. But I find them both good.

>>12331386
>>12331402
Is there anything wrong with their data about pokemon then, for example stats, moves, whatever? Where do they make those errors?
I only use Bulbapedia for those simple things anyways, so if there's any misinformation elsewhere, I personally don't care. The layout's good enough, and I can find what I want about the pokemon I'm training, for example.

>>12331386
>using bulbapedia for anything other than statistics/facts such as learnable moves/information on trainers etc

>>12331419
I've noticed it in their location listings. They have missed Pokémon out countless times. For a while, they completely ignored Emolga being in Giant Chasm, Route 13 and a few others. Serebii previously had that error too, but he sorted it out quickly, stating it was an indexing error of his database

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>>12331319
you do realize that you can click on the table of contents tab and go right to what you want right?

>>12331455
Alright, that explains a lot then. It's sad that there aren't any good alternatives, with a proper layour, in english...

>>12331319

>What is CTRL-F

>>12331486
Serebii is good enough for me, and when you report and error it's fixed immediately, and not reverted. Plus, I like how he sets out his location database. It's just a shame he doesn't list detailed item locations in it

>>12331455
>Serebii previously had that error too, but he sorted it out quickly, stating it was an indexing error of his database

Makes it pretty clear that Bulba just lifts information straight from Serebii, that.

Serebii is not well designed, but it's better for news than Bulbapedia by a lot.

Serebii also has better information than Bulbapedia, but it isn't presented half as well and is harder to get to. And when you do find it, it's hindered by bad menus. I appreciate dude's effort though.

>>12331514
I think Serebii is just too attached to classic designs. Either that or he just doesn't have the time to make a new layout

>>12331514
sadly there is no middle ground.
>one has bad design and good info
>one has good design and bad info

>>12331535
cant you get past the bad design though?

>>12331540
its just too fucking ugly. black background with sometimes hard to read and find info. it hinders it.

>>12331540
I try to, and stick with him for the most part, and he is making strides to making it easier to navigate these days through headings and anchors, but he really needs to pick a better colour scheme

>>12331500
No, it's just the same guy submitting information to both.

Why can't Serebii just copy Pokewiki's site design?
Goddamn. What's holding him back?

>>12331566
Including the database error, when Serebii's site is done almost all by him?

I cannot see that happening

>>12331575
He has eyes?

>>12331575
>Bulbapedia merge with serebii
>Bulbapedia's well organized and nice and simple layout
>serebii's error free and proper information
all my yes.

>>12331175
Yeah. I remember for the longest Serebii had it listed that Torchic didn't have any gender differences albeit I don't totally blame him seeing as the one difference was pixel-sized.

>>12331802
To be fair, that is a ridiculous difference

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>>12331000 (OP)
>Serebii has worse factual errors like the blaziken latias legendary
Wait, what about that is a factual error?

>>12331611
>error free

>>12331905
When Blaziken was first revealed, he speculated it was a legendary. OP is getting confused with the beta artwork that shows a combo of Blaziken and Latias

>>12331000 (OP)
I hate serebii, but only because he's a dick
Also, if you go to bulbapedia for news you're fucking retarded
That's like checking wikipedia for a top story on CNN

>>12332069
CNN is fucking retarded
I go to bulbapedia because their site doesn't look like shit, they have an RSS feed and you can copy text. Also no pointless frontpage.

Serebii looks like it was made in 2003 and then went "eh"

Bulbapedia is good for information related to in-game Pokemon stuff.

Serebii is good for information related to releases/new info.

There.

>>12332113
okay, the onion
I don't give a fuck so long as you aren't using fox

>>12332113
You've been able to copy on Serebii for years

>>12332119
Na, Serebii is better for in-game stuff, but it's true, Bulbapedia is better for stuff like this: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Exit

I feel so enlightened now I know the history of the Exit button

>>12332308
>years
More like one year, not to mention disabled right click until then as well.

>>12331171
This guy is best guy.

Joe = respectable person, you wouldn't even know he plays Pokemon and is the founder of one of the largest Pokemon databases in the Internet

Archaic = fat, greasy neckbeard you can smell the stench from a mile away

>>12332358
He disabled it before Black & White came out

>>12332428
>Joe = respectable person
stopped reading right there

>>12332440
>black and white was 2 years ago
Where has time gone anon?

>>12332446
I'm talking the Japanese release, that was almost 3 years

>>12332548
I reiterate that I have lost track of time
feels bad

>>12331052
Info-wise AND news-wise, Bulbapedia is probably one of the least reliable Pokemon sites on the internet.

The only good thing about it is that it looks nice. Not even worth visiting otherwise.

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>>12331500
I saw this on my feed this morning

http://twitter.com/SerebiiNet (Second image in the media grid)
http://twitter.com/BulbaNewsNOW (First image in the media grid)
Was trying to link directly but 4chan though it was spam

Both are cropped versions of an image from the official site, which is attached, but these are completely identical.

Serebii posted at 1:08am, Bulbagarden at 1:54am

It really goes to show, doesn't it

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Why has Bulbapedia got a big white bar on the right-side of the screen?

>>12332823
It doesn't here.

>>12332823
Adverts

>>12332823
Do you have AdBlock?

>>12331469
This. The only thing I ever use these sites for are learnsets and locations. I don't give two shits if they mistranslated a tweet or explain that Oshawott's name is "a combination of ocean, shell, water, and otter."

>>12333079
^this

>>12332308
Great.
Serebii still looks like shit, has outdated pre-release info for many games.

See ya!

>>12332778
When it comes to breaking news, first is almost never best.

Bulba may lift from serebii, I'm cool with it because it means I don't have to go to serebii ever again.

See ya!

> Be in 5th grade
> go on Serebii all the time
> take really long 2cool4pokemon break
> Be 19 and get Soul Silver
> REALIZE THAT HOLY SHIT SEREBII IS STILL AROUND WTF
> Realize that Pokemon crater is no more :(

>>12333567
Nice blog.

>2013
>still using serebii and bulbashit
>not using veekun.com
When will you ever learn?

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Serebii has made shit tons of errors

>>12334821
>implying that everyone who saw Almonololololololaoa didn't think it was related to Luvdisc

>>12334821
Be fair, who else thought that? Everyone.

Besides, that doesn't say it is related to Luvdisc, it says appears which denotes uncertainty

>>12334821
Be fair, who else thought that? Everyone.

Besides, that doesn't say it is related to Luvdisc, it says appears which denotes uncertainty

>>12334726
Veekun has a great dex, but doesn't have anything else

>>12334821
You missed out the word which though

>>12334894
What other things do you need to look up, 9/10 times I need the dex.

>>12334821
>which appears to be related to Luvdisc

I don't see any error. It DOES appear to be related to Luvdisc.

>>12331045

Yeah this. Smogon is the only one I just can't stand. I like Bulbapedia and I'm ok with Serebii.

Every time I see Serebii and Bulbapedia in the same sentence, I instantly think of that Elephant Man factoid.

I go to Bulbapedia for info on well-established stuff. I go to Serebii for breaking/latest news.

That's about it, really. I don't really use Pokemon fan sites aside from this terrible board. I love you guys, though.

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Can someone shed some light on the Bulbapedia controversy I hear every once and a while? It had something to do with cp

I use Serebii only for it's news. I use Bulbapedia for it's easily accessible info. I use Pokebeach just for the lels of his speculation. I have Serebii and Bulbapedia liked on facebook. So no matter what, I always get the news and info. Quit arguing overs who's better. Neither are. They work together

>>12335179
A number of things

They got bought out by HAVA Media a while ago, which is when their now former staff started having issues with Archaic etc.

They had a secret sex forum, which had their staff sharing pictures of themselves. Many of their staff being minors.

Its webmaster, Archaic, is also know for simply saying that age is just a number

You can see a lot of the shit here

I have no idea what the community is like, but I have no problem with any of those sites. I use Bulbapedia for the common pokemon knowledge stuff and I don't really visit Serebii anymore.

>>12335179
>>12335244
Forgot the URL
http://bulbagardenconfessional.tumblr.com/

>>12335244
so its like the Wi-Fi general except a thousand times more retarded?

>>12335268
>http://bulbagardenconfessional.tumblr.com/

Thak you anon, also, what is this "Van" that's commonly referred to?

>>12335391
Mozz's Van is the name for their sex forum

>>12331068
Pretty much this. I use both websites personally and I've been using /vp/ since its inception.

>>12333567
>Pokemon crater is no more
what the fuck? When did it go down? RIP in peace my childhood ;_;7

>>12331340
Unf, that's so nice. I like Bulbapedia, but it just has too much crap cluttering up the page. They need to put the random shit, anime/manga, and side game stuff on separate pages.

>>12331540
Not when it makes it hard to find the info you're looking for.

>>12335621
>>12333567
>that feel when you think it can't possibly be true, but you realize it really is gone.
When did this happen?

>>12336228
>>12333567
>>12335621
what the fuck is pokemon crater?

>>12336267
It was sort of like PokeMMO, except you didn't play a story, there was various maps you explored, and could catch all 493 pokemon, trade with people, battle every league, and catch
Regular, Shiny, Dark, Light, and Metal Pokemon plus like 5 Fakemons who were like Elemental Dratinis or something.

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>>12331000 (OP)
>baww bulbapedia has useless shit
A wiki that aims to have complete information about EVERYTHING pokémon related has a lot of trivia? Wow, no shit, what a surprise.

>baww serebii looks awful
That's what a lot of people say about your face. If you can still read it and use use ctrl+f then there's no real problem, beggers can't be choosers. Also next point...

>they both have wrong info at some point, doesn't matter if they change it, it was wrong!
And you've never made a mistake? This is the same bullshit they give to wikipedia, but you know what makes wikis different from a book? If you find something wrong you can make sure they fix it, that's the whole point. It's like complaining about your hat being crooked and wearing it like that all day.

>well, the admin is an asshole
Does it affect the site's content and experience? No? Then it's not a problem, unlike tvtropes going down the shitter because of the new head.

>the community in the forums is awful
You're in 4chan, you should know that any easy access site has shit in their forums. And as said before if it doesn't affect the actual content...

>but which site do I use?
All of them, brand loyality is fucking stupid, use the product for what is good and that's it.

>who are you to say this, nobody asked you?!
If you don't care then you shouldn't care. I'm doing this for anyone that might find it useful, if you could understand that then you wouldn't bitch about free stuff on the internet.

I myself have never edited a wiki so I can't complain about anything they do.

>>12339682
/thread

>>12339682
thank you kind sir

I just can't go to serebii.

Ending every post with "until next time see ya!" then a picture of celebi. Ugh. Such a faggot

>>12339911
>kind sir

>>12331000 (OP)
Dude, Bulbapedia's page has a shit ton of problems, one of them being the long ass loading screen compared to other sites like serebii. And dont forget that bulbapedia was blocked for a few days last year, that shitstorm was glorious

Serebii is also better for information, bulbapedia is simply better for trivial things.

>>12332047
Blaziken pretty much is a legend right now

A lot of people seem to dislike bulbapedia for the "useless info" that they sometimes add, specially in the trivia section, like, for example eevee is the normal type pokémon with most vowels in its name, consequently, it is also colored brown.

>>12340293
Bulbapedia has been blocked a few times due to malicious ads. Are they really that bad at checking them?

>>12340356
The place is at the end of its rope. Archaic publicly announced that he just wanted to quit this shit and move on.

he also got destroyed by /vp/ when he came here, poor guy.

>>12340356
It gets worse. Whenever they get blocked, they just say it's an error on Google and the site is safe to view.

How irresponsible is that?

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I use Serebii for news and Bulbapedia for general information.

pic related

>>12342021
pretty much

serebii's ancient site design makes it incredibly painful to use as a general information site

>>12340404
If he wanted to quit, he should just quit. He's only sticking around because he makes like a 6 figure salary off of the multitude of dodgy ads on the site