It'd be the same shit but with another MC.

That's what the anime is like during important battles.

Agreed. Ash's story is getting way too played out. I really hope they replace Ash being a whole new story with whole new characters. Making it more mature like that trailer of B/W2 would be plus as well. Although the later part of the Best Wishes season isn't too bad

>>12905478
>I have never watched the anime

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>>12905501
If you missed it, Ash's XY design has been confirmed already. Don't have a picture of it, though, but look anywhere.

>>12905504
Yeah, we know, that's why he had to say it.

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>>12905515

I wonder if they correlate game and merchandise sales with the anime. Since Pokemon consistently sells, someone in the anime production probably championed credit for it and they've never bothered to enact a change.

You're the one keeping Ash alive, /vp/.

What is he even gonna do in Bw2 anime?

The already fought with the 2 new gym leaders.

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>>12905587
The BW2 arc is over.

>>12905597
Oh ok.

So did they have the league?

Cause that's really all I care for.

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>>12905606
You missed the league? If you mean the Elite Four from the games, then no, they weren't present. If you mean the usual league where Ash always loses, then yes they had that.

>>12905620
Oh right it was the thing where the dude with the Riolu showed up out of nowhere.


Best wishes. Lame season.

>>12905626
>the dude with the Riolu showed up out of nowhere
this is the only time the person who beat ash existed before the league

It's simple
Money.
The anime solely exists to advertise for the game and it already does so well enough.
The Pokemon fanbase doesn't buy BDs or DVDs and the otaku who do aren't interested in Pokemon.

>>12905468 (OP)
Because the world is filled with retards that keep watching that piece of shit anime. And anime companies always like to play it safe.

>>12905570
Is that really it? Doesn't he look.... even younger than before?

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>>12905468 (OP)
From a genuine point of view of someone that isn't entirely blinded in Ash hatred, it probably wouldn't be a consistently good show as much as you think it would be. Yes, it would be "EPIC" and "MATURE" and the first few episodes would probably be solid evidence of that, but it'd be such a hyped up show from fans all around that even it may be underwhelming some weeks.

Ideally, if you want a show like this, 26 episodes or bust. There is no excuse.

because it's targeted to kids you dingus

Ok i'll be honest

that anime OP posted looks just as shitty as the current anime Ash is in, hell as >>12905478 said it's just an important battle, who knows how goofy the characters and Pokemon are outside of a battle

>>12906818
are you retarded?

I'm sick of people crying "MUH EDGY ANIMU WITH EPIK FIGHTS WITHOUT ASH!!!! XD"

I want a comedy show with Alder and Norman.

>>12906846
Sounds like you'd like that new KyoAni swimming animu airing this season.

>>12906842
no, the current anime is targeted to kids. if they made another anime for an older audience i would be fine with it

>>12906846
>Norman

youre trying a little to hard now

Ash is the perfect asshole for a show for kids.

He's got the can do and make new friends attitude.

It's something the parents like as well.

>>12906846
I want a variety show in the form of the Chevy Chase show.

>>12905570

That right there, that's some gay-ass shit

>>12906846
This is gay

>>12906890
This is good

know what I wanna see? A pokemon anime about Gardevoir getting fucked. Not shitty low budget animation either.

>>12905665
I like what they did with the Hoenn Grand Festival, where they brought back this guy who had appeared once, 100 episode earlier, and had him win the entire thing. Was a nice bit of continuity, and he was already established as a very strong trainer.

>>12905570
Oh hey Calem.

I'm mistakenly expecting an animated trailer for XY.

tbh I'd be content with a 20-30 episode side-anime like the B2W2 trailers

I really want a new anime that is loosley based on a mix of the games and the Pokemon Adventures manga. It could explore a lot of events that we really don't know much about, and there could be new main characters for each season, and the focus of characters could be shifted at times. Think about all the things it could explore:

> Red's rise to power
> The volcanic eruption on Cinnabar
> Mewtwo's connection to Blaine and Fuji
> War-like situation in Kanto
> Silver's character development: from thief to one of the main protagonists
> Giovanni's discovery of Rhyperior
> Team Magma vs Team Aqua
> Brendan and May's 60 day challenge
> Distortion World
> Improved BW Plasma arc

>>12906786

Which is exactly the reason no one ever asks his age or how long he's been travelling.

"How old are you?"

"I'm 10."

"And how long have you been travelling?"

"16 years."

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>>12907000
>include Pokemon Adventures

>>12907001
Because that's just fucking weird.

Do you go around asking people you don't even know how old they are?

>>12905475
It'd still be better than the current Anime

>>12907007
>you're a bit young to be travelling without an adult, aren't you?
>nah, i've been doing this for about 16 years now
>wait, what? how old are you?

although to be fair it would raise an awful lot of questions about why he was travelling with a little girl

>>12907042
But it's normal in the Pokémon universe to go out at that age. Don't compare it to the real world. Silly.

>>12905468 (OP)
The music and the dialogue in that vid were so horrible that I cringed until I turned inside out. 'I'm about to unleash my rage.' seriously?

Keep the way it's drawn and paced, like a mix between Avatar and Naruto, but get less cheesy 80's themed music and better writers otherwise if this shit was real, I would never watch it.

>>12907130
The dialogue is all straight from the game.

>>12905501
>more mature
I dont really see how.
It's literally just setpieces from the game played out. It just seems more mature because it was only battle scenes.

That said, the animation and art is infinitely better than the current anime. But that's most likely because it was a short rather than a weekly thing.

>>12905585
But i dont buy merchandise.
Hell, i havent watched the Animoo since halfway through johto.
I just get the games, nigga.

>>12907130
>The music and the dialogue in that vid were so horrible that I cringed until I turned inside out. 'I'm about to unleash my rage.' seriously?
Straight from the game, nigga.
Hugh is a faggot.

>>12907143
Fantastic.

GET BETTER WRITERS.

>>12907143
>implying BW2 was written well

Because the pacing would absolutely fucking horrid without tons and tons of filler that would just make it be the current anime but with a different MC every region and less original characters, though I wouldn't argue that it wouldn't be at least a tiny bit more entertaining.

If you're talking about the animation, that little trailer probably had two to three times the budget of a single episode of the anime if not more.

>>12905585
No, the writers are lazy and don't want to invent new characters or names. Its easier to re-use the same protagonist over and over; Also, it helps bring nostagliafags back if they forgot about the anime, hear some big news and then are all "Oh Ash is still there? I'll watch it."

>>12907267
>it helps bring nostagliafags back if they forgot about the anime, hear some big news and then are all "Oh Ash is still there? I'll watch it."
And then they see ash is still as incompetent as he was 16 years ago and drop it.
At least with a new protag they can still have him ignorant without pissing off the old fans.

>>12905468 (OP)
>Seriously, WHY CAN'T THE POKEMON ANIME BE LIKE THIS?
Because budget. You can make something look fucking awesome when all you have to deal with is a single trailer. You want the anime to be like that? Prepare for worse animation, reused stock animation, the exact same plots over and over again, and filler episodes up the ass. The only thing that would change is the characters.

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>that voice acting

Why is it ANY english speaking voice actor in an anime has to sound forced as fuck?

>>12907288
>Worse animation, reused stock animation, the exact same plots over and over again, and filler episodes up the ass
That's the same shit people been watching for 15 years so the fundamental change would be nice

>>12907294
gotta ham it up.

>>12907288
>Prepare for worse animation, reused stock animation, the exact same plots over and over again, and filler episodes up the ass. The only thing that would change is the characters.
you mean the current anime?

>>12907288
>The only thing that would change is the characters.
Honestly, even that would be a step up.
Old fans hate ash because he doesnt learn shit or age over the course of 16 years.
And new fans dont even fucking know who he is so they dont care.

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>>12907294
This is something that worries me.

I've wanted to be a voice actor for years so I can change this, but I'm worried that when I'm recording my lines, the director will step in and go 'MAKE IT SOUND CORNY! KIDS LOVE CORNY!'

>>12907302
Exactly. People act like this would be some awesome shift that would make the anime better, but nothing would change. We'd all be bitching about how Nate is a retard and how Rosa is an annoying bitch, we'd get gen wars between the series with people getting into flame wars over which protagonist was least retarded, and so on.

>>12907320
>We'd all be bitching about how Nate is a retard
At least it'd be justified because he'd be a new trainer.

>LET'S DO OUR BEST

>I'm about to unleash my rage

>>12907308
Every goddamn "Right." and "Awesome!" just intensifies my fury.

>>12905468 (OP)
>Hyper Beam and Frenzy Plant
>The fuck Rosa

>>12905468 (OP)
If you condense the current anime into several short one minute action packed clips then it looks just like this.

>>12905468 (OP)
My first time watching this trailer in english, and my first time seeing the trailer after the games actual release and I've noticed somethings.

Why is Goku so angry?
How does Amy Rose have a Serperior at the first gym
Why are the tracks used in this not in an OST release.

>>12907413
Because it wouldn't be so exciting and thrilling watching a Snivy and Lillipup tackle each other until one faints, Would it?

>>12907413
>Why is Goku so angry?
because team plasma stole his cat. So now he has to unleash his rage

The movies are like this. This quality of animation take a lot of time and is pointless to put in something as trivial as a 22 min kids show

>>12906948

>Official PokeEcchi

>Nintendo literally conquers Japan with how much money they make.

>>12907294
Anime dubs don't pay much, so all the dub vas are shitty actors who can't get better paid jobs.
Also, anime dubs are either aimed at children too young to know quality, or anime dubtards who rarely watch anything beyond dubbed anime, and thus have become accustomed to such shit acting, even convincing themselves it's good. Thus, there's no reason for the dub studios to inject more quality in their productions.

>>12907481
Literal Pokemon Conquest.

Just give us a new MC who evolves all his pokemon and isn't autistic.

>>12907026
It would do worse because the kids wouldn't like it since they can't connect with the MC for at least the start of the first season and the younger kids won't know what's going on because they won't recognize the formula.
Almost all the idiots screaming for an anime like the BW2 trailer would probably watch episodes online meaning there's no money going to the station or the animation company because they're not watching the actual channel and the ads on it.

Would an anime with this kind of quality be cool? Yes.
Would it be feasible to make on a weekly basis and maintain that standard of quality? Almost certainly not.

You want a good example of the Pokemon anime doing things right when given enough time to work? Look at the movies, especially the earlier ones. Ash is intelligent in his decision making, strong as a trainer, and written fairly well.

>>12907549
>evolves all his pokemon
>isn't autistic
Truly skilled trainers try to win with their favorites.

>>12907568
I want a smogon tier trainer, I know I'll get hate but I want brutal and precise battling from the MC

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>>12907577

>>12907568
My favourite pokemon is Volcarona.

>>12907577
What I want to know is why Ash is forced to lose all the time?
Why can't he start the region out as a bad trainer (not knowing the Pokemon etc etc) and gradually improve his battling and start coming up with super intelligent "JUST ACCORDING TO KEIKAKU" plans by the later gyms and the league.
Then he wins the league and moves on to the next one.

>>12907599
>Then he wins the league and moves on to the next one.
That's why.

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>>12905468 (OP)

Maybe they could do it like Digimon, switching the cast every season.

>>12907599
Because not winning a league makes for a better reason to challenge another one of similar status.

>>12907585
Pretty much what I want

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>people honestly thought they would drop Ash in Kalos

>>12907593
Mine is too actually, Mothra is my favorite kaiju

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtp854o6FYg

>Implying the current anime wouldn't be exactly like this if all they had to do was make short bursts of high intensity action

This kind of shit will never fly for a fucking longrunning anime series, it would just burn out on itself. We already know the really important battles have amazing animation (see: ash vs paul)

>>12907481
> Nintendo conquers Japan by whoring out their characters from various series they've worked on over the years, making hentai picture sets, doujinshi and animations with top-quality artists.
> Nintendo immediately conquers Japan.
> Pervy Nintendo fans around the world flood the oceans with their reproductive fluids.
> Seafood market crashes due to an increased supply thanks to the added food source, but reluctance of the majority of the public to eat the thriving aquatic semen chompers.
> Shortly afterward, all Nintendo products are banned from western countries from being "indecent" and "not good role models for children".
> Nintendo is financially crippled and slowly dies as they can't make up for the losses they incur due to losing so much of their market.

It would almost be worth it.

>>12907577
But everyone hates Paul

>>12905468 (OP)
i think that only if ash would evolve all of his pokemon and had balanced team the anime would be much better. That is the main thing that i dont like about it. We all agree that battles with charizard and infernape in league were the most interesting.

>>12907883
He'd be alright if he was less of a dick, you don't need to be an asshole to be skilled

>>12907912
He wasn't that much of a dick.
He still respected his elders and treated some people on his level with respect(see Brock).

>>12907818
> Nintendo then dissolves
> They start a new company with new IP's
> They hire new people and figureheads so the public doesn't know they are in charge
> New IP become the greatest thing in gaming history
> Newtendo takes over gaming market again
> Vow to never whore out IP again

>>12907890
Matches with Torterra, however....

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>>12907952
> Newtendo buys out the Digimon, hires its key designers and forms of new team built up of them and former GameFreak employees.
> With Pokemon removed from the market, Digimon suddenly gets a lot of attention and has a craze not unlike the Pokemon fad in its prime.

Anyone up for a bakugan battle brawl

>>12907413
Honestly, my question when watching the trailer was "Why does she sound exactly like Lina Inverse?"

>>12907130
>Hating the music

speaking of which, I dont think they ever released the remixes used there, did they?

shame

>>12906794
A 26-32 episode side project would be pretty cool though.

I used to absolutely hate all of those characters. Especially Bianca.
Now that I've heard those voices matched up with them, I think I actually like them.
I always imagined them having really scrawny bitchy voices.

older trainers > younger ones

>>12908244
Hugh is still an enormous faggot though.

>>12907924
He was mostly just dickish to people who didn't like him, ie Ash and Dawn. Brock was a lot cooler with the guy, so he didn't get that treatment.

The dub also rewrote his lines to an annoyingly large degree towards the end of the series, when he had grown a lot more respectful of Ash in the original.

>>12907924
>this starly doesn't know aerial ace? useless! get the fuck away from me, i need to find a better one
i mean, he could've been a lil less harsh y'know

talking about useless pokémon, how about a 12 episode story arc where ash drops off two pokemon at the day-care, gets dozens of eggs and walks around the day-care till they hatch (and occasionally switching one of the parents with a better newborn) only to find out they're not what he had in mind, and when he's sick of it in episode 12, he picks a relatively superior one he hatched 5 episodes earlier and calls it a day
in the meanwhile, the leftovers are send to professor oak's lab and start a gang wars with ash's tauros

shadow triad was the down point of gen 5.5
from mysterious to AM I BADASS NINJA YET CHECK OUT ALL MY POWERS HOLY SHIT I'M STRONGER THAN YOU

>>12908617
>this starly doesn't know aerial ace? useless! get the fuck away from me, i need to find a better one
Instead of getting a Starly that doesn't have aerial ace and wasting time training it, he gets a Starly with the move.
This is similar to how people see pokegen/savers.

My problem with the anime is that it feels like a show for preschoolers at some points.

And the sounds the Pokemon make just make me cringe.