Any of them. If ANY pokemon next gen was given a really good weather on par with rain or sun, it would fly up to OU.

Maybe Sheer Force Electivire?
it would be like a stronger nidoking

>>13083398
I agree it'd be good but I dunno about ANY

Drizzle Bibarel or Drought Torkoal would be pretty bad

Druddigon with speed boost

>>13083369 (OP)
>ninetales
>shit pokemon

>>13083418
>Bibarel
>bad
Simple Bibarel, Curse, Trick Room, death for opponent.

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Moody Slaking.

>>13083453
Slaking with almost any ability other than a harmful one, really.

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>>13083465
Yeah but, I tried to come up with one that would make sense with the species. Huge power or Guts would turn him into a rape train with those BST.

>>13083453
Slow Start Slaking

>>13083494
>guts slaking with a flame orb
>STAB facade
dear god

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>>13083530
>predict toxic or will o wisp and switch in a guts choice band slaking with facade

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>>13083442
>Simple
>With Drizzle
R u having a stroke m8?

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>>13083553
After being baton passed a belly drum

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>>13083591
What? I think you are. Drizzle is not mentioned anywhere.

>>13083591
He's saying that Bibarel is already usable, without Drizzle.

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>>13083553
>mfw doing this before gen4 over netbattle with a swellow

>>13083369 (OP)
Dusclops and Dusknoir summon trick room on entry.

>>13083657
The original poster never said Bibarel wasn't usable.

He was saying a DRIZZLE BIBAREL would be bad. Not Bibarel in general was bad. He was making a point that not any pokemon with a weather ability would instantly become OU.

>>13083757
> what are some shit pokemon who would be OU with a good ability

by posting the pokemon in this thread he is implying its shit

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>>13083494
>huge power slaking

>>13083437
It is shit.
I don't understand why people justify a Pokemons shitty stats. I bet you think Golduck is a good pokemon don't you?

Sap Sipper: Swampert or Whishcash
Contrary: Primeape, Poliwrath, Venosaur, Liligant, Agaron, or Magmortar.
Defiant: Crustle, or Steelix
Lightning Rod: Swana
No Guard: Nidoking, Nidoqueen, Rypherior, Rhydon, Kangaskhan, or Scoliopede
Poison heal: Any wall or stall poke
Sniper: Jynx, Froslass, Cryogonal
Technician: Weavile, most Evee-lutions
Volt Absorb: Mantine, Tentacruel

>>13084327
>no guard nidoking
>better than sheer fotce

>>13084327
>Venusaur
>shit

What is Chlorophyll?

>>13084327
>contrary poliwrath

would belly drum minimize attack?

Charizard- Magic Guard

>>13084531
Yes.

>>13084477
Outside of sunshine, like on a rain team, it would be nice to throw off leaf storms and just keep getting +2 to Special Attack each time. Veno is bulky enough to pull it off, and with either synthesis or Giga Drain, it could top off its health and keep on sweeping with +6 Special attack LS, GD, and whatever coverage move(s) you want.

>>13084380
Sheer force is nice, but I think adding some versatility and having 100% accuracy Dynamic Punches, Stone Edges/Head Smashes, Megahorns, or even just Megakicks would be a useful addition. Plus, his SP Atk isn't horrendous, and he's got access to Blizzard, Thunder, Fire Blast, and Focus Blast. So you could have a Sheer Force physical brute, a No Guard physical brute, or a No Guard special attacker. The versatility would probably throw a lot of folks off and make predictions a pain in the ass until they could figure out what the hell you're running.

I read this as a thread for pokemon that aren't really noticed in the Meta right now that would shoot straight to the top as a prominent member of 75% of OU teams.

What would you propose instead?

>>13083453
Everything with moody gets banned to ubers. Just ask bidoof.

>>13084327

Contrary on Liligant? Why? It already has the Quiver Dance and Sleep Powder. It doesn't seem that useful just for Leaf Storm.

>>13084531
>>13084631
Yep, and Close Combat and Super Power would give bonuses instead of cause reductions... if Poliwrath had them. I hadn't double checked to be sure that it had the moves necessary to make the most out of Contrary, so please excuse my mistake. Instead, just substitute any poke with access to highly damaging moves that also normally reduce a poke's stats, like Hammer Arm or Overheat. Golurk, for example, could be a beast with Contrary, but it's already a fairly well to do poke.

>>13084714
>>13084327
Lilligant isnt shitty because of her ability, she's shitty because nomoves

>>13084730

I know that, I was just questioning why he thought Contrary would make it better.

>>13084714
I find Liligant to be a bit frail, and I don't see it as much of a special wall. It has pretty good speed as is, and I think would benefit more from being able to land a 140 BP stab special attack and get a +2 to special attack than to get a +1 to speed, Special Def., and Special Atk, and not do any damage on that turn. You still have sleep powder if you want it, or you can go for substitute and synthesis to help stall and build up stacks before unleashing LS and a HP with good typing. It kinda sucks that Liligant doesn't have a lot of wiggle room for type coverage.

Sand Trap Flygon.

>>13084811
>It kinda sucks that Liligant doesn't have a lot of wiggle room for type coverage.
gogo tinted lens lilligant

>prankster spinda
>drought Cherrim
>sand stream flygon
>snow warning Vanilluxe
>drizzle, drought, and snow warning castform
>Levitate magnezone
>sand rush Marowak
>solid rock rhydon
>technician Weavile
>Super luck Farfetch'd

>>13084925
You're still stuck with 4 strong grass moves, a psychic move that requires the enemy to be asleep to pull off, and Hidden Power. Tinted Lens gives a boost when hitting Fire, Steel, Bug, Poison, Flying, Grass, and Dragon types, and it doesn't become a super effective attack, it becomes a move with doubled base power that then gets factored against resistances, so at best it does normal damage.

Fire, Bug, Poison, and Flying types are also likely to be packing STAB moves that will wreck Liligant. Steel and Dragon will just not give one third of a damn about the attack and retaliate with either a type coverage move or just start setting up to sweep. Liligant needs some moves like thunderbolt, ice beam, scald, and flamethrower to show off that nifty special attack.

>>13085068
>Drought Cherrim
>Drizzle, Drought, Snow Warning Castform

These would only work if the pokes still automatically switched into the appropriate form, or if they stayed form locked to match the weather they cause. Otherwise you'd have closed Cherrim and "normal" Castform in weather they would otherwise be able to handle.

I like Levitate Magnezone and technician Weavile though.

>>13083369 (OP)
Huge power Farfetched
Magic guard Umbreon
Annything that learns brave bird and gets rock head.