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This is the reason pokemon is JUST a hobby to me these days

Why do the rest of you feel the way you do?
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I agree.

Gen 1 and 2 are the best.
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I agree with some points (aspecialy with unpractical addons) , but seriously, 3-5 gen Pokemon look and are more dangerous. Did you read Pokedex entries?
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People only make that to praise the old starter pokemon they like and to shit all over the new starters they don't like. They never show the good qualities and bad qualities of them all. It's an unfair competition.
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>nonsensical anatomy

Bitch, you wouldn't know nonsensical anatomy if it used its shoulder mounted tiny arms to slap you in the face.
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>>9467830

What's with all the nostalgia faggots lately?

tell me how Clefairy transmits a sense danger. OH NO A PINK BLOB MAKE IT STOP
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>>9467869
Their pokedex has nothing to do with their appearance, they can have all sorts of random "MAXIMUM POWER" abilities but they still look dopey
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>nostalgiafags

It's a hobby to me because of the numerous choices of Pokemon to train. I must've effort trained at least 150 different Pokemon at this point.
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>>9467882
I'm scared of Wigglytuff
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>>9467882
BUT THAT'S NOT EVEN THE WORSE. LOOK AT THE SIMPLE, NOT DECORATED DESIGN OF JYNZ WHO TRANSMITS RAW POWER. OH GOD NO
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>>9467885
Like half creatures that are called Animals in our world.
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>not liking a pokemon because it doesn't have a realistic center if gravity
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>>9467893
OH GOD, AND THAT MR.MIME. THOSE SKINNY ARMS AND GOOFY FACE STRIKE FEAR IN MY MIND LIKE LIQUID ELECTRICITY BEING SHOVED MY THROAT.

SAVE ME
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>>9467888
Is your favorite Rapidash?
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>>9467904
My favorite is Politoed. Your argument is invalid.
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>>9467902
SAVE ME FROM GOLBAT AND HIS CORRECT ANATOMY!! OH GOD, HIS PERFECTLY SIZED MOUTH IS KILLING ME
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>tier 1 pokemon not dangerous enough
are you implying any first stage starter in gen 1/2 were actually threatening? squirtle is just a turtle with a squirrel tail and big eyes

>dangerous and ready for combat, each pokemon has features that directly instinctively invoke que concept of power in the human mind
>venusaur
>blastoise
>meganium
>typhlosion
>dangerous looking

>unclear themes in gen V
snivy line: body becomes longer and arms shorter with each evolution
oshawott line: from a regular kid with a sword to a samurai appretince and finally a full blown samurai
tepig line: tepig's tail is a bomb about to explode, pignite's tail is the bomb while exploding, emboar's tail is the bomb after the explosion
>overdesigned
which doesn't make them less realistic, not all animals in real life have simple body shapes or a single color
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>Gen 3&4
>few common themes
>mfw
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>>9467909
PLEASE MAKE IT STOP. THE AURA OF POWER TRANSMITED BY DIGGLET IS AS INTIMIDATING AS BEING DROWNED IN LQUID ELECTRICITY.

WHY MUST THIS HAPPEN TO ME
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LOOK AT THIS OVER-DESIGNED PIECE OF SHIT! THIS SHIT AIN'T A REAL ANIMAL!
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>>9467919
PLEASE TAKE ME AWAY FROM THE HORROR OF THE WELL DEFINED THEME PRESENT IN THE DRATINI LINE. BECAYSE YES, SNAKES DO EVOLVE INTO BARNEY THE DINOSSAUR. OH LAWD NOOO
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>gen 5 no center of gravity
someone doesn't understand center of gravity. They're all perfectly stable designs.
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>>9467919
Why did you people decide to make "liquid electricity" a thing now?
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According to OP's logic...
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>>9467936
I'M DYING OF THE LIQUID ELECTRICITY TRANSMITED TO ME BY WEEZING'S VENTER OF GRAVITY DESPITE THE FACTS ONE SIDE WEIGHT AT LEAST TWICE AS THE OTHER SIDE
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>>9467942
OH LAWD, NOO, EXEGGUTOR IS RPPNG MY ORGANS APART WILL HIS WELL DEFINED THEME. WHAT, YOU PEOPLE ARE NOT AWARE THAT PINK EGGS GROW TO BE PALM TREES?!!
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The fact that you can't accept that earlier gens had a better sense of design is sad.

Hell even hurdurhoenn had a good take on anatomy, design, you can tell how a pokemon moves just by looking at the picture. Now, I try my best but I still can't figure out how the tepig line could ever jump.

That doesn't mean new gens don't do a good job on other stuff, but design is just not one of them.
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>>9467952
Please explain to me how Feraligatr or Meganium are able to jump. No really, because they did so in the anime
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>>9467952
>Now, I try my best but I still can't figure out how the tepig line could ever jump.

legs

Can you tell me how Typhlosion can jump? Cus it doesn't have legs.
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>>9467952
> The fact that you can't agree is sad.
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>>9467882
>megaautism
>doesn't even realize this is about the starter pokemon
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>>9467950
LEDIAN'S PRATICAL ANAMOTY IS RIPPING MY DICK OFF. WHAT, DON'T YOU THINK SEVERAL SMALL ARMS WITH BALLS FOR HANDS PUT TOGETHER ARE NOT PRATICAL?
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>>9467952
Well I'd assume that serperior moves like a SNAKE.
I also can imagine that infernape moves like an APE.
and correct me if I'm wrong, but would Torterra move like a TURTLE?
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>>9467941
A followup
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>>9467970
>can't win an argument
>wants to win the argument
>argues about something else to win the first argument
>fucking autism
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>>9467970
ARCEUS DAMNIT, SAMUROTT AND EMBOAR ARE TOO CUTE, THEY ARE NOT DANGEROUS AT ALL, WHEN THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE STARTS THAT LOOK POWEERFUL AND INTIMIDATING LIKE MEGANIUM AGAIN?!! :(((
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>>9467969
>Doesn't realize this is a thread about starter Pokemon evolutionary lines.

captcha: stejua rebuked.
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Opinions sure are swell.

Dragonite looks retarded - where did the orange, antennae, potbelly, and wings come from?
Haxorus is awesome - it has the clear theme of a bladed jaw throughout its evolutions.
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>>9467984
Now he's just completely ignoring the OP entirely

way to fucking autism /vp/
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>>9467964
They do?

I'm not the guy you asking to but I assumed they couldn't jump, due to being based of heavy weigth dinos. I never watched the anime.
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>>9467989
Dragonite was a mistake that was supposed to evolve from Magikarp, just as Garydos was supposed to be smoother and evolve from the Dratini line

Anyway, this is about the starter pokemon and I cannot comprehend the complete fucking Foxnews autism you faggots have shit all over this thread
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>>9467994
Pretty much everything is able to jump in the anime
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>>9467999
see
>>9467939
>>9467965
I'm waiting
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>>9468000
>anime
>actually accurate and canon
>holy fuck
>my fucking sides derp
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>>9467999
Can't tel if that info is fake or not, but it kinda makes sense
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>Anatomy
>Pokemon
The line was crossed.
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>>9467999
>He actually thinks Dragonite and Gyarados were mixed up.
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>>9468002
For what?

Someone to fuck your fag ass tripfagging face?

fanboiing it up so hard he actually comes into conflict with real fans

So sad
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>>9467979
No offense but that's one of the worst legends to use as an example. Tepigs theme is more understandable.
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>tier 1 pokemon are cute but not dangerous, unlike G1&G2

he blew goddamn bubbles at you
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>>9468010
>he actually thinks they weren't
>he thinks MISSINGNO. is just a meme

typical faggot

way to turn pokemon into digimon
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>>9468011
k
but I'm still waiting
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>>9467979
I like Blastoise as much as the next guy, but I have always been so disappointed he pretty much throws away EVERYTHING Wartortle was setting up and just does his own thing.
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>>9468017
BETTER WATCH OUT THIS GUY IS TRIPFAGGING HE KNOWS HIS SHIT

He had a shell and blasted you with water
way to choose the least dangerous of them all, winning by logical fallacy isn't winning
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>>9468017
Hundreds of Golems die every year because of stray bubbles those little motherfuckers expell
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>>9468018
>year whatever
>doesn't know the mythology of gyarados
"Gyarados is partially based on a legend about how carp that leapt over the Dragon Gate would become dragons. Several waterfalls and cataracts in China are believed to be the location of the Dragon Gate. This is referenced by Pokémon Snap, as you need to get Magikarp into a waterfall to evolve it into Gyarados."
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>>9468024
No, the other waters use water gun, he uses bubbles
There are only a handful to choose from, the argument was all gen 1 and 2 tier 1 starters are dangerous, unlike the new starters?
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>>9468018

Got any proof they were meant to be related besides OMG SO MINDBLOWING POKECOINCIDENCES images?

Magikarp and Gyarados have a lot of similar features, enough to be clearly related. I don't know where they were going with Dragonite though, fucking retarded orange barney.
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>>9468028
>2012
>doesn't know the legend of Magikarp
>"turns into a dragon"
>"Japan obsessed with Western culture at the time
>Dragonite was designed as the "dragon"
>last minute fuck up and panic changes it to fit with Japans history

The wonderful thing about tripfags is you can always tell who the fucking retard is
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>>9468029
None. He's the same kind of idiot that believes Venonat should evolve into Butterfree, and the Kangaskhan kid is a cubone.
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>>9468034
>squirtle
>doesn't use water gun

jesus

someone is fucking downs
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>>9468024
Every picture I see of Kanto starters, they have cute little eyes, happy smiles, and a pure color.

Is that dangerous?
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I'll just leave this here.
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OP, delete this shit-ass thread and try again later.

Actually, don't try again ever.
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>>9468037
You best be trolling son
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>>9468036
Lrn2index numbers

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_index_number_(Generation_I)

The Index Numbers in Gen I correspond to each Pokemon's creation in chronological order.

As you can see, Magikarp, Gyarados, and Dragonite are nowhere near each other.

Dragonite, Dratini, and Dragonair are only separated by 16 numbers.
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>>9468036
well, I gave you the origin of why gyarados is what he is
dragonite looks like no dragon I've ever seen. gyarados looks a like asian style dragons.
>>9468039
he starts with bubbles. the other water starters start with water gun.
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>>9468041
>shit taste and fanboi level retardation
>treats other peoples opinions like they are as retarded and not based on facts and logical process
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>>9468044
>thinks pokemon were designed in the game
>doesn't understand that each pokemon went through a lengthly design process
>"last minute" in corporate terms is "a year or so ago"
>what the fuck has happened to pokemon fans?

are you all just pretending to be into pokemon so you can actually talk to someone without being ignored/beaten for your retardation?
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>>9468047
He still had water gun you fucking retard

why the hell are you so retarded?
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>>9467830
>This is the reason pokemon is JUST a hobby to me these days

So there was a time when it was more? Dude, if a videogame is more than a hobby to you, you have issues.
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>>9468043
No, there really are people who believe that shit.
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>>9468055
you didn't know the gyarados mythology.
>>9468057
the argument is he is more dangerous than the new starters. Yet he starts off with bubbles. He upgrades to what the other starters start off with. And can you make the argument for any of the other gen 1 starters being more dangerous than the new pokemon?
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Samurott, that body is clearly quadrupedal. I don't care if you have thumbs, and that you can hold those swords, your body is not fucking designed for that. I mean how the fuck you you even move when you have a sword drawn? Do you hop on one front leg? I bet that's pretty fucking slow. What if you have both swords drawn? Your body isn't designed for standing on two legs, you'll just fall over and get hit in the face and faint.

What I'm trying to say it, Samurott is probably the worse designed pokemon ever.
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>>9468055
Dude, Rhydon was the first designed Pokemon.

Rhydon is #1 in the Index Number list

The Index Number list for Gen I shows the chronological order each Pokemon was designed.

You're obviously are just pretending to be into Pokemon if you don't know this well known fact.

>inb4 a hurrdurr filled statement like "no u" or "ur retarded/autistic/etc."
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>>9468069
>he hasn't seen 3 legged dogs run

They're still pretty fast
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>>9468059
I concur. That's why I can't stand the word "Gamer."
It's like people try to make playing video games well or competitively a career.
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>>9468048
I can't understand that jibberish green text. Reply like a man.

Template
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>>9468069
samurott is pretty bad. Those aren't sword handles, those aren't swords, and yeah holding them as a quadruped is awful design. I still like to think of his narwhal horn as his sword.
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>>9468048
>not based on facts and logical process
>opinions
You just reached a new level of retardation.
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>>9468085
Opinions are formulated based on the person's logic and the facts presented to them

Resorting to "hurr durr ur retarded" shows how much logic you have.
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>>9468069
Samurott gets a hunched over position. Then again, Typlosion has no legs and can still walk, and run on fours. Explain this bullshit
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>This thread
>Still thinking Magikarp was supposed to evolve into Dragonite
Holy fuck you people are dumb beyond help.
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>>9468098
no, this is his official sword stance
don't ask me why the sword looks so different when detached from his leg.
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>>9468094
>Opinions are formulated based on the person's logic and the facts presented to them
>Opinions
>based on the person's logic and facts presented to them
It still doesn't make them the hard facts of life moron.
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>>9468076
For me it depends on the context. Some people use it just to say "big fan of videogames" (as in, more than casuals), I'm ok with that. But when they say gamer as in the example you asid... yeeeah, please go out and see the sun.
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Hurrdurr Chikorita is so dangerous and intimidating.
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>>9468098
Stumpy legs =/= Lack of legs

Typhlosion pretty much has the same kind of legs as a hamster, and they move just fine.

>Pic related it's a hamster probably
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>>9468104
>Also still not knowing Dragonair/Dragonite's legend
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>>9467830
Wait....Pokemon was more than JUST a hobby to you?
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Guy with Aspergers makes a game that is repetitive and about collecting, therefor created a game for people who probably have Aspergers. People with Aspergers hate change. Therefor any minor change in Pokemon is met with resistance by its autistic fans. I wish I was just trolling but this is pretty much the truth.
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>>9468205
That describes a substancial part of the pokémon fanbase
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>>9467830
Oh and about the Dratini and Gyarados thing. I never thought that was true. Gyarados has Magikarp's mouth, fins and antenna. Dratini is one of those Eastern style dragons, not European. In mythology some sort of Jewels were supposed to turn something into a dragon, which is why Dragonair has jewels. Also it has wings on the side of its head and its vaguely shaped like Dragonite's head. Then suddenly it's finally a dragon.

if Dragonair>Dragonite>Gyarados was true then Gyarados wouldnt have Magikarps mouth, antenna and fins.... I mean it would be too weird.
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>>9468217

Is it bad that I like the way both of those look much more than their defaults?
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>>9468205

Pokémon was a simple, hardcore game about collecting, training and battling, but that was then. Nowadays Pokémon is a shitty harem/möe animê in the form of a game directed to children and hipsters.

Pick yours.
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>>9468009

See, that's exactly the problem you dumbfuck. In the '90s the actually cared about that, maybe because the person behind it all was autistic as fuck and DEMANDED his creations to be perfect.

Now they just shit whatever is 'kawaii desu~~tsundere (´・ω・`) ' and people will gladly take it.
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>>9468271
No, you are simply getting older.


C'on people we've been over this
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>>9468303

Getting older =/= than facts. B/W feels like a shitty eroge or a crappy dating sim, there was a fine line between the games and that horrible anime, but now it's all the same.
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>>9468297
>people in the 90s
>cared about anatomy
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>>9468271
>>9468297
>>9468321
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>>9468321
Nop, you are getting older. You no longer believe those ridiculous claims that you used to when you were a kid. You are no longer a gullible kid.

Also, Kanto is a boring region. Bland as fuck, and R/B are the worst games of the franchise. Shittiest, story gameplay and graphics.

If you didn't suffer from Aspergis you would realize B/W has R/B beat in EVERY aspect and it's not riddled with glitches.

These are facts. Stay mad nostalgiafaggot
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>>9468321
How is B/W a dating sim? What the fuck.

This thread is awful.
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>>9468344
No, you don't get it, he's throwing around random words that he doesn't even understand.
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>>9468321
>B/W
>dating sim
If you're gonna talk shit about the games, at least play them.
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>>9468321
See attached picture.

>>9468344
I agree, but B/W was still pretty bad IMO.
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>>9468358
>>9468353
>>9468344

You see? THIS is why Pokémon went downhill, I can even smell the 9GAWG and LeReddit stench coming from you guys. Gullible, me? I'm not the 7th grade hipster kid trying to look cool. Fact is that most of your claims are just as ridiculous as any random post in aforementioned websites. Now I remember why I stopped coming to this board.

Sure B/W is a better game than R/B, if you're into shitty animes. Then again, chances are that you indeed enjoy crap such as Naruto, Bleach or any other 'popular' show. I supposed I'm indeed getting old, but people are also getting stupider by the day.
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>>9468425
Yeah yeah, whatever. Here, you forgot this.

Oh, and you should head here:
>>>/b/
>>>/mlp/
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>>9468425
How interesting, your "rebuttal" had no counter-arguments, just plain insulting.

Stay mad, nostalgia faggot
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>>9468438

>/b/
>/mlp/

My whole point is that YOU are the hipster.
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>>9468321
It feels like that because you're getting older.

This actually proves that you are resistant to change and maybe probably have aspergers.
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>>9468425
>OPINIONS OPINIONS OPINIONS, MY OPINION IS SUPERIOR MAKING IT FACT WHICH YOU MUST ALL FOLLOW BECAUSE I JUST CANNOT STOP SUCKING DICKS OPINIONS OPINIONS OPINIONS I CAN'T TAKE SOMEONE'S OPINION IF THEY DON'T AGREE WITH ME WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH OH GEEZ I HOPE I'M NOT SPITTING CUM AT YOU THROUGH THE MONITOR
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>>9468425
Dis nigga.
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>>9468425
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>>9468445

My rebuttal stated that most users from this board also frequent websites such as 9GAWG and LeReddit. That's enough arguments.
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>>9468425
>B/W
>shitty animes
Pick one.
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>>9468470
see
>>9468461
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>>9468470
Now, let's see why do you know how bad "9GAWG" and "LeReddit" are, and why do you know how terrible the anime/manga you mentioned are, mh?
Guess someone is lying.
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>>9468470
One day i saw the comment section of a Pokemon post on 9fag. Yurns out they are nostalgia faggots like you.

Thus, non-nostalgiafaggots re most likely not to visit 9fag and lereddit.

So, by that line of tought, you are a 9fagger.
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OP is right, Gen 1 did have threatening pokemon
>those backsprites.
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>>9468491

Unless you're a regular at mentioned websites, you shouldn't be asking that.
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red was a prototype. gen 2 ruined pokemon and sealed its fate as a toy for girls 6 and under
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>>9468425
You sound upset. Should've used Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann instead of the examples you gave though. People around here have a raging hard-on for it.

Fixed faggot OP's faggot image.
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The amount of retarded opinions on here make me sick. Why do I come on here again?
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>>9468524

Indeed, I AM upset. Why would they ruin such a great series like this? To please hipsters and kids?

Meh, who am I kidding. Pokémon is a brand supposed to make money, if retards trying to be cool will buy it, they'll keep this shit up. There's no way out of it.
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>>9468480
see
>>9468494
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>>9468527
To laugh at retards like this
>>9468425
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>>9468551
Your tears are delicious
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>>9468551
pokemon doesnt sell as well as it used to. stop buying this narrative.
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>>9468571

Yes, and that's my point you retard. Will it sell more appealing to the ever growing hipster public? It'll obliviously sell more if the games directly resemble the anime, and that's why B/W is a shitty anime.
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>>9468551
Play the new games until you like them. Don't let favorite regions get in the way of you not enjoying new ones. Give new Pokemon a chance.
>Implying hipsters even play the new games
You are right though about Pokemon being a brand designed to make money. People forget the target audience for all the games is the next generation of kids who have never played mostly, not us. We're just lucky after the dip in quality during Johto and Hoenn that they started caring again about the quality of their franchise. If you have time to complain more, you could be discovering new unexpected bros in these newer gens you claim to dislike.
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>>9468582
I don't understand. How come you even manage to breath?
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>>9468586

Believe me, I tried, and I'd have loved B/W if not for that shitty narrative and möe anime-like atmosphere.
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>>9468582
My, you just love the word hipster, don't you

also, you should probably actually finish/play the B/W games before complaining about them
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>>9468602 möe anime-like atmosphere
I have no idea what you mean by this. That's quite a stretch. I wouldn't complain about the narrative yet though. There's a sequel coming out soon, and I'm almost sure it'll turn into a trilogy. Don't complain about a story until the story is finished, not to mention it is pretty much the most story any main series Pokemon game has had which makes it practically win that category by default.
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>>9468602
Lying is bad.

Seriously. What kind of hacked version did you buy, because i'm pretty mine didn't had a background narrator
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>>9468615

I could use faggot, retarded or stupid if you want.

Oh, if I could ever get those wasted hours back.
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>>9468618
>Almost sure it'll turn into a trilogy

I was following you up until that point. Not that I wouldn't like it, it's just possibly one of the more farfetch'd ideas I've heard in a while.

Let's make it happen.
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>>9468602
>shitty narrative and möe anime-like atmosphere.

Explain what you mean by this
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>>9468069
I know right! I saw a bear the other day and I yelled "Nigger! You were designed to be a quadruped! You can't stand on two legs!"

Man, nature sure has gone to shit with designs recently
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>>9468647
>Third final installement.
>Has The original Dragon
>Zekrom, Reshiram and Kyurem combined
>Broken as Fuck

Why not?
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>>9468647
But Pokemon Black/White 3DS, the title sells itself. As if Gamefreak wouldn't realize this. Besides, the lack of 3DS features in even the sequel is nagging for a future 3DS version of the game.
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>>9468655

Pokémon B/W feels like a cheap shönen, maybe because it IS one. They're pushing the boundaries between the anime and the games in order to sell more.

I mean, the lack of a proper story in past games is better than this shitfest, WAY better.
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>>9468698
Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you saying that they're pushing the boundary between the games and anime because they're adding in more story to the games?
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>>9468698
That moment when you don't even make sense anymore
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>>9468602 möe atmosphere
>>9468698 cheap shönen
Those are two completely different things. Your story is getting more and more holes. Either you don't know what you're talking about in the least, or you are very poorly trolling. It's time to stop posting.
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>>9468730

The thing is, most shönen nowadays are crap, and möe has always been crap, so there you have it.
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>>9468746
>mfw when he bashes on newer games because they have a plot, instead of his beloved overglitched pokémon HUR DURR RED
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>>9468763

A plot on the same level as Naruto or Bleach. HELL YEAH!
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>>9468772
And yet it's better than no plot at all, like R/B
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>>9468779

I don't think so Tim. I prefer no plot at all than this shit.
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>>9468746
>>9468772

Please respond to this

>>9468715
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>>9468787

Yes, they're adding a SHITTY plot to the games.
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>opinions
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>>9468785
Get a load of this guy
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>>9468795
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>>9468795
Adding plot to a game =/= pushing the boundary between the anime and the games

I'll give you a 2/10 though, it's the best I can give you
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>>9468795
The plot is supposed to be simple and easy for kids to get. Not all 2deep4u adult shit, you know, since its Pokemon, You're getting mad at a kids game bro
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OP has no sense of balance.
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>>9467830
>This is the reason pokemon is JUST a hobby to me these days

Why would it ever have been anything more than a hobby?
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>>9468910
If dressing in fursuits and fucking people of the same gender can be a way of life, so can playing a children's game.
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Stop adding random accents to japanese words you horrible troll


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