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/vp/ Pokedex thread since no one else is making one. I'm just an artist.

Threw a bunch of designs from last thread >>10575921
together into one image. Might've missed a couple
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>>10579651 (OP)
fuckin shit, forgot about the sprites when I had to resize this down, stupid filesize limits.
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>>10579651 (OP)
Take the molecule line out.

It's stolen from another fakedex
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>>10579651 (OP)

Here's the wiki:

>http://capx.wikia.com/ wiki /CAPX_Wiki


And don't worry about the sprites, I'll add all those in the composite images to vote on today.
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>>10579663
fuck that, then.
they're removed from my brain. not going to bother to edit the image for the sake of sprites when someone else is already working on a composite voting image. I just made this so I had an image to start the thread with.
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I'll dump magnitogre here as well then.

'The Magnetic Mountain Pokémon', based on Magnitogorsk in Russia.
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>>10579676

We should probably have said that the Pokemon are based off South America.
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Idea for an exploud-style soundproof electric pokémon.
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>>10579684
I conveniently neglected to mention that in my first post.

to redeem, here's the map I think has been agreed upon.
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Here's ghosthorse from the last thread. Working on a more sugimori-looking version, might make some changes so it doesn't just look like a plain ole horse.

Ghost/Steel
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>>10579651 (OP)
What about these?
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>>10579684
No they aren't. The region is based on South America. The last time I checked, Egyptian sarcophagi are not commonplace in North America. While some of the pokémon are influenced by the area they're based on, it's not a strictly binding thing.

Also Magnitogorsk was just the visual inspiration and the inspiration behind the name. I'm pretty sure that there are factories in South America.
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>>10579694
Horse porn
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>>10579696
didn't have that image. thanks.
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Should I remove the 'mons that are already on the Wiki from the vote composite? Or just leave all of them on there?
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Did someone saved the water scorpion from some thread ago ? It was neat.
Besides, I had an idea for a bug/ghost pokemon. It would be a bug using an old conquistador-like helmet as a shell. But there would be already be a ghost inside, so the helmet has a violet aura, eyes, and ghostly arms coming from inside the helmet that could be used for punch moves.
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Link to the wiki?
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>>10579697
I liked the Russian Ice Gym leftover from Cold War idea in the old thread.
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>>10579694

Give it a prevo, we already have 3 ghosts with no evos in progress (the musical ghosts). Else we'll be overboard with standalone ghosts.
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>>10579708
see
>>10579665
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>>10579708

see here >>10579665
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We still haven't confirmed Texmex Ghost yet? It's like the best design.
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>>10579715
this
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>>10579712
I was vaguely thinking it might be an alt evolution of ponyta but that's kinda eh. I'll see what I can do.
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About that Ice wolf thing someone was working on, some guy said that we don't need it cuz we have the ice lynx but I think it would be cool to have them both and make them like rivals in the wild (like cats and dogs hee hee)
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>>10579711

Thanks. I'll post my list of Gym leader ideas again for the sake of this thread.

Ciandro - The Flamboyant flame
Fire type pokemon
Circus "Cirque du Solilel" based gym

using rings of fire and performance

tricks

Competitors shall recieve the Torch

badge as proof of winning.

Avia and Braston - The

Discombobulated Duo
Flying/Steel type pokemon
Victorian airship gym that travels

the world

Competitors shall recieve the

Sprocket badge as proof of winning.

3. Voltaire - The poet with

Thunderous emotion
Electric type Pokemon
Outdoor open air theatre gym like an

operahouse

Competitors shall recieve the Tempest

badge as proof of winning.

4. Lei - The Free spirit
Grass Type Pokemon
Luau games gym "Tiki" themed apparel

Competitors shall recieve the Bloom

badge as proof of winning.

5. Desmond - The Tedious Telepath
Psychic type pokemon
Ancient mayan temple gym

Competitors shall recieve the Bond

badge as proof of winning.

6. Oloa - The Diabolical Doctor
Dark or ghost type pokemon
Old voodoo shack in the jungle

Competitors shall recieve the

Exchange badge as proof of winning.

7. Chan-ki - The Devoted Dancer
Fighting types
Martial training arena, used for

Capoira style dance.

Competitors shall recieve the

Breakdown badge as proof of winning.

8. Periwinkle - The silent snowflake
Ice type Pokemon
Abandoned millitary base in the cold

war

Competitors shall recieve the Shiver

badge as proof of winning.
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>>10579651 (OP)
The ones I think look good is the steelsnake, that jazzghost and mexghost, the grass flying lizard, the grass/ground water/rock fire/ice and the bugs and maybe the boiling fish.

The bug with the spikes had a little too much spikes. I didn't like the dog with the thing in its back, it looked a little too much (dare I say it) Digimon-ish

All IMO
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Wow.. /vp/, you've really outdone yourself.
These designs are terrible. They're ugly, are vague in reference, and just plain old look bad.
I had high hopes for this project, but I'm hoping more and more each day that it's going to just dissolve like all the other /vp/ projects.
I was one of the drawfags from about a week or so back, and I hereby quit. Not that any of you will care, but I just refuse to take part of this any more if these are seriously the best you guys can come up with.
Best of luck arguing over your stupid little designs to the point that they all end up bastardized like these.
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>>10579734
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>>10579734
Pffffffft, opinions
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>>10579734
What part of "This project is for fun" did you not get several weeks back?
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>>10579734
Which pokemon did you drew ?
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>>10579734
At least we're trying
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>>10579734
like okay dood
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>>10579734
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>>10579734

Sounds like someone's favorite Fakemon got voted out...
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>>10579726

Gym leaders and typing will be decided when we have most of our Pokemon completed. It's pointless to do it now because then we would have to force Pokemon designs.

>>10579697

After creating many Pokemon based on South American animals and South American culture and myths, a Pokemon based on Russia would not fit well at all. This isn't the same deal as Unova has as it's based off North America, this is far more strict.
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>>10579715
>>10579715
>>10579715

Seriously. Out of all the ones so far he'd be the bro of bros.

In the OP I also like the Moss witch whatever, the Steel drake dragon thing at the bottom, and Fettlekish
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>>10579651 (OP)
One hangup about the mossy ghost girl pokemon, I can't look at it without being reminded of the Queen of Fairies from Wind Waker. Not sure if it's an issue but I thought I'd mention it.
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>>10579734
10/10 would laugh again

anyways ill throw this guy up again.
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>>10579753

Although we could use the gym leader's personalities, we shouldn't be deciding gym leaders right now.

>>10579734

Aww, has somebody's drawing been voted off?
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Also, does that Wolf have a jetpack? If so 10/10

>>10579734
>implying these designs aren't a billion times better than official Nintendo pokemon.
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>>10579753
It's just a steel/electric pokémon based on a factory then. Forget I said anything about Russia. Ignore the parts of the pokémon that are clearly Russian, such as jack shit.
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>>10579763
that's pretty sweet

also, that poncho ghost is a total bro
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>>10579757
Maybe the mossy poke, could change to a ghost/dark awesomeness when it holds a special item?
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>>10579778

I like it. But I don't think Gen 3 rom engines work that way. A more doable change would be using a certain item like an evolutionary stone to "evolve" it, then use it again to revert back.
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>>10579763
Very nice
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>>10579771

No no, I say we keep it. Who the fuck said everything had to be South american? The overall THEME is, not every pokemon. Look at everything we have up there, not everything is SA-related.

Besides, Russia fits in well with the souther tip and the snowy reaches. I say keep it.
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>>10579799
Weren't we supposed to make this on the Gen 5 engies?
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>>10579676

It's cute, would train. I didn't even know this was a South America thing, but its connection to Russiaisn't even that tight. And South American themes and influences get old real fast due to the fact that South American culture is one of the most shallow, lamest in the world.
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Alright, got the composite images. They aren't number at the moment, making sure I didn't miss any 'mons.

I have six, and will (hopefully) be dumping them in the right order this time.

Pic 1- any new sprites were put in the same sprite area as the others to try and keep them together and prevent them from being overlooked.
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>>10579771
>>10579804

Not only do we not have to base every single Pokemon on something from South America, but we also need Pokemon for the Safari Zone. Some anons have already suggested putting a few mons that seem non-native to the region there.
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this thread is cancer
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Is anyone working on the other musical ghosts?
I did this for the classical one, with a conductor and a string instrument because I could find what a Bachkopelli was >>10576013 →
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>>10579726
>Victorian airship gym

HOLY FUCK YES. WE NEED THIS.

It could be like a traveling center like the battle pyramid wayward from another far off land, kind of like how "Around the world in 80 days" worked.
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>>10579830

Pic 2
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>Got rid of horned eldritch beast
You've failed me, /vp/.

>b-b-b-but it didn't l-look like a p-p-pokemon!
Palka
Dialga
Ludicolo
Tornadus, Thundurus, Landorus
Vanilluxe
There are no rules to what "looks like" a Pokémon. /vp/ seems to think it has to be SOMEWHAT CUTE JAPANESEY CHINK MONSUTAAA
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>>10579848

Pic 3
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>>10579840

Nice! Glad to see someone's still working with my concepts.

We still need a name for the Harlem jazz one though..
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>>10579809

It would quite literally be impossible to make this on the Gen V engine. Not only has research into that engine barely scratched the surface, but the maps are ridiculously convoluted and unreceptive to editing, one of the reasons being the 3D graphics. There would barely be a new region. Not to mention that they'd have to do 10x the spriting for the pokemon due to the battle screen movements.

Gen 3 is basically 100% malleable and you can basically do anything with it.
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>>10579804
>>10579819

It's been this way for awhile now. Wasn't my idea, but every Pokemon that has been part of this project for some time either is based off South America or cannot be applied to any single culture, with the exception of the Mexican ghost, which is still Latin American.

>>10579809

It's almost virtually impossible to add new maps into a Gen 5 game, without some serious work. It's either a Gen 3 hack or a RPG Maker game, any other options will require too much work.

RPG Maker games could make the game look Gen 5-ish, but I think more people know how to hack Gen 3 roms well.
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>>10579856

Pic 4
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>>10579861

If it were made with RPG maker, I can pretty much garuntee that this project wouldn't be completed. It would take a lot more work. Also I doubt you could emulate the Gen V engine with RPG maker anyway.
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>>10579864

Pic 5.

This one was being seriously difficult to upload.
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>>10579882

Yeah, I've been thinking the same thing. All we need to do is find a FireRed ROM with the physical/special split, and then add the Pokemon/tilesets/etc.

After that, it's scripting and mapping. We'll probably need someone to work on the core, however.
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>>10579888
you squished my steel/dragon, yo.
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>>10579888
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>>10579888
>>10579898
I fixed it cause it bothered me
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^will tentaquil be included in this dex?
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Idea for the region bat, based on (you guessed it) a fruit bat.

Would conflict with the grass starter a bit as grass/flying but if we coloured it purple and green we could probably get away with it as poison/flying.
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>>10579898

I'm sorry. These images are huge, and apparently can only be less than 3k each in dimensions, because any bigger refuses to upload. I feel like six composites is already too many, I'd really rather not split up even more images to have them at full size.

Last pic.
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whatever happened to those desert fakemon?
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>>10579964
I liked that slug and Berratel
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In all honesty. Most of these seem forced.

Fettlekish and Cuppy are the only ones that seem like true blue legitimate pokemon.
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Gonna post these again. If anyone wants to redesign any of these, or give me feedback, I'd appreciate it. We had someone working on new versions of the beanbugs last thread, hoping to see if they've done anything else yet.

"Let me explain the concepts:
The Bug/Darks are based on the fact that the Amazon rainforest includes large amounts of unnamed and undiscovered bugs. This Pokemon sort of represents an unknown insect, as represented by its ability.

The Bug triple split line is based on beans and ants. The middle one is generic, the bottom left is based on Cocoa beans, the bottom right is based on poisonous beans, and a morningstar, and the right is based on coffee beans. I also considered going with a more caffeinated looking "crazed" bean as the starter, and then evolving into even more insane looking Cocoa and Coffee beans, axing the poison beans, but I didn't think I could pull of the art required to make the beanants look all hyped up.

Locofan is something I drew to fill up space. I don't even know.

If anyone wants to play around with these concepts, or use them for inspiration, or even redraw them, they're MORE than welcome. I am not artistically inclined."
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>>10580030
What you mean?
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>>10580056
Nice
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>>10579964

Fettlekish and Berratel are my favorite lines.
The rock trio is cool, but when I look at them, I just think of the Titans from Disney's Hercules.
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>>10579850
Same thing happened to the psychic fetus. But it's no big deal.
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>>10579848
these landsharks are badass, specifically second row second column.
>>10579864
cats and the snake.
red turtle 10/10
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>>10579964
Where's tundire?
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>>10580089
everyone always says that about them
Grass/Ground Water/Rock Fire/Ice
I've never seen that movie so I don't know the reference
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>>10579921
another update to this one, the 2nd stage fire/rock goat was changed slightly
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Fettlekish is my favorite. Hands down.
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Went ahead and put all of the images in this thread together on this site:

We should probably use this from now on, going to work a lot better than uploading a ten images each time we make a new thread.

Probably a fair bit of overlap on this image, didn't really take too much time on it.

Meanwhile, my image is an old concept I had for a smogon's CAP. Thoughts?
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>>10580172

Wow, forgot to put the link. I'm a fucking idiot.

http://www . closr . it/show/JWuto_Qr1bn
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>>10579728
>>10579754
>>10580030
>>10580089
>>10580151

Fettlekish guy here. Can I just say that I fucking love you guys? I'm gonna work on getting myself a tablet in the next few days so I can do some better drawings of him, hopefully. Unless a spriter just throws them together as is. That would also be cool.
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>>10579902
That sprite doesn't look anything like the picture though
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>>10580186
Fettlekish is definitely bro material. I'm looking forward to seeing more art of him! And Cuppy too. That little guy's cute as fuck.
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>>10580218
But it looks like a Pokemon on Sprite when the picture looks nothink like one
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I gotta head to work, so I won't be putting up any more images with composites or whatever. If we vote today, someone else will need to update them with anything else.

Or just use >>10580180, which is handy.
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>>10580236
Indeed
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I know we aren't at this stage yet, but what do you think of this guy as a trainer, gym leader or E4?

It could be Braston from this idea:
>>10579726
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>>10580320

If it's Braston, I'd say it needs a more polished refined look. Like 10579726 says, it's a victorian airship, if we go with that.

Maybe give him a more touched up look? something that looks like it came from the 1800's but with a hint of pokemon thrown into it.

That's my take at least.
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>>10580320
>>10580353

I have to admit I like the steel/flying gym idea, but would it add some type disadvantages? Then again, we want this region to be a little more challenging after all.

I kind of picture a steampunk theme here. Like a gentlemen and lady duo, Classy and well polished, but at the same time, captains of an air ship, which would mean aviator gear, maybe a parachute or jetpack on one of them?
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>>10580320
>No wannabe badman wearing bandannas over their face please.
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>>10580320
>>10580353
>>10580388

Okay, just to clear up, all very good ideas.

I had these designed for another project a while ago but I decided it wasn't going anywhere, so yeah. it's just ideas, not set in stone or anything.

The original idea I had for avia and braston (above) was like what >>10580388
said. A duo of two, one was a mechanic to fix the ship, one was a pilot to drive it.

It was a very victorian concept, so yes it can easily be changed and played around with, but I figured I should at least clarify.
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Ok guys, ok, today I got a great idea if we're still going with the evil guys destroying nature.
The picture is of a bull frog/white blood cell Pokemon, I got the idea in biology today. What I came up with is that this guy can engulf anything, as long as it isn't 3x as big as him. And his role is to pretty much protect nature and just eat any threats (like white blood cells). So the natives can team up with these guys, and, I dunno, save stuff? That's pretty much all I thought of, natives+this guy= bros

I'm thinking it'll be Psychic type, that way it can just pick up things and float them into its mouth no problem.
The little ring on its head was supposed to be a halo, like its a little angel to the natives. A white from isn't fun.
And I wasn't sure what animal to pair the white blood cell to, when I remembered bullfrogs eat anything that fits into their mouth. It fits.
So anyways, I got super excited with this idea. This guy isn't legendary or anything, just "sacred" to the natives or something. Give your thoughts or questions.
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>>10580439
Oh, I also made a dex entry for it
"Scientists call this pokemon the immune system of nature, as it engulfs any potential threats. It can consume objects up to three times its size"
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>>10580320
He has a shirt, a sweater-vest, and a vest over his sweater-vest?
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>>10580428
The intention was that he was about 11, and had to wear it because of sandstorms. I dunno though.
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>>10580439
Kind of reminds me of the "Blood cells" in the Tree of beginings in Lucario's movie.
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I saw that you had some Grass llamas, but I was wondering if you guys needed more Ice/Rock.
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>>10580455
I kinda assumed that was what it's for but if that is the case, he needs way more eye protection. A little bandanna doesn't do much up against a desert with a decent wind.
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I'm going to go ahead and say what I've been holding back for a while.

Stop fucking designing fakemon that are just animal + plant motif or animal + plant on its back.

It's really fucking tired. It was kind of cool when bulbasaur did it. The ones we had at the beginning of the project were likewise pretty well done.

But seriously. there's a point where it has to stop and we've clearly crossed it. .
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>>10580483
Indeed!
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>>10580456
I haven't seen that movie, is it pretty much the same thing? Or is there enough of a difference?
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>>10580483
Agreed. Also, safari animals with obvious elemental additions. The worst offender: lions with fire manes.
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1 - Gale - Flying - Breeze Badge
2 - Tyson - Fighting - Tackle Badge
3 - Emerald - Dark - Wicked Badge
4 - Rose - Grass - Harmony Badge
5 - Jackie - Poison - Needle Badge
6 - Buster - Normal - Flamboyant Badge
7 - Sterne - Steel - Plumb Badge
8 - Maggie - Psychic - Wand Badge

These are awful but..
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>>10580510
the blood cells aren't actual pokemon and aren't sentient, they just kinda appear and remove anything foreign with no discrimination.
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>>10580529
you lost me at tackle
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Can I reccomend someone design an Ice, Psychic/Ice or Dark/Ice sherpa Pokemon to go with all of these fucking llamas?

Ice because duh
Psychic to keep all of the animals together
Dark because it could falsely lead trainers to their doom and steal their llamas.
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>>10580547
Potentially racist. We should um. Not do that.
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>>10580470
Revised.
I set about designing him as a trainer who follows you around a bit, similar to Wally.

Maybe he's a trainer in the Victorian airship too? I quite like the idea of an otherwise anonymous gym trainer who isn't the leader being a character in his own right.
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>>10580560
Scraggy, Scrafty, Jynx, Mr. Mime, Hariyama, all racist.
Also this is fucking 4chan.
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>>10580560
Alakazam had a star of david on his forehead. Xatu mocks aztec culture by staring in to the sun like an idiot. Charizard mocks europe and all of their dragons.
You are too sensitive and I like the idea.
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>>10580529

I think a good way to design a new light for gym leaders it to look at what has been sterotypically done first.

Normal: A youthful energetic girl, Your Father
Rock: A silent strong type, A school teacher, A miner
Ground: Leader of an evil organization, Old lady, Mayor of the city
Flying: Following fathers footsteps, Aviator in the trees, Airplane co-pilotwith a cannon fetish
Fire: Hothead riddle master, Hot Fanservice, Afrodude, Waiter
Water: Swimmer girl, Fabulous performer/Prettyboy performer, Pro wrestler, Blaquaman/Waiter
Grass: Feminist, Psychotic, Waiter
Electric: Army Sergent, Eccentric fun loving guy, Emo, Model
Poison: Ninja master, Not so ninja master, Rockstar
Ghost: Stoner, Islander, Performer, Velma dinkly
Dark: Favoritist, Badboy, Edgyfaggot
Steel: Loli, Rock collector, DEFENSE!!1!,
Psychic: Bondage, faggot, twins, bookworm, bedhead
Fighting: Macho man, fat neckbeard, Surfer dude, blue teeth
Ice: Bitch, Old man, Who now?, loli2, Movie star
Bug: Shota, Green hair, hipster
Dragon: Lance, tsundere, sea captain, brownloliordad/brownlolichampion

As long as we stay from these, we're fine.
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>these people would rape designs worse than gen 3 ever did if given a chance

the fucking horror
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>>10580598
>Alakazam
>star of david

...what? It's the upside down pentagram of baphomet.

this is what the goat starter should be too
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>>10580603
Shota, Green hair, hipster

My god, it's N
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>>10580603
>monotype gym leaders

pls no
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>>10580603
the first three lists were normal and then I couldn't stop laughing.
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>>10580614
Check his Red and green sprites, dude. You're thinking of Kadabra.
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A piece of paper that disguise itself as the night sky and a evolution. ghost/flying, but I think it could work as a pure flying if we already have too many ghosts
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>>10580624
No. Star of david is a 6 pointed star. The designs on Kadabera all come from Zener cards.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zener_cards
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>>10580630
...So what does it do in the day time?
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>>10580639
It hides
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>>10580638
>>10580624

...oh you're right.

I didn't know about that.
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>>10580639
prenteds to be wallpaper or those sticker thing you get in kids bedrooms.

Daycares have to be careful of this pokemon appearing and scaring children.

Sometimes called Drifloon's cousin.
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>>10580645
Crazy shit, huh?
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>>10580667
Eh, it's understandable. If the whole pentagram thing was intentional, then clearly they were going for an occult-inspired designed. the Star of David is often associated with the occult due to Goetia, Goetic demon summoning, and Esotericism which incorporates Kabbalah. The former because demon-summoning was said to have its roots in King Solomon, who (legend has it) would capture demons and basically use them for his amusement like pokemon. The latter because Kabbalah is Jewish.
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>>10580573
Being on 4chan doesn't excuse racism. If you think it does, you should probably re-evaluate your choices.

Also
>Scraggy/Scrafty, Hariyama
Can't be racist if it's their own damn culture.
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>>10580056
Hi again! Just letting you know that I'm still working on those bugs, have all of them sketched, gunna have them done by tonight.
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>>10580723
Dude we make fun of hicks and republicans all the time and that's out own culture and racist. Niggers are also our culture and it's also racist. Way to avoid Jynx and the obvious negroid roots of Scraggy and Scrafty, by the way.

Also, if it's not racist if it's your own culture, and sherpas are part of the South American culture, then it isn't racist.

Further, so long as it is merely a reference and not a caricature, then it will be seen as anything from a cute nod to a borderline honor that we even remembered them.

On top of that, would anyone else have remembered sherpas if I hadn't mentioned them? Isn't racism based in widely known ideas about a certain culture?

And on a final note, who is going to see this and complain about your supposed racism? this is a /vp/ project which will be played by maybe a few dozen people. A hundred or so at mas.

In closing, loosen up.
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So, I haven't been keeping up with this thing whatsoever, but it looks like you guys are taking it pretty seriously. Just thought i'd chip in my 2 cents, and suggest finding an artist who can mimic Sugimori's style well (there are tons out there) and have them redraw the final designs.
That's how GF actually does it with sugimori- bunch of different designers, Sugimori finalizes and draws the official art-, as i'm sure you know. It'd make everything look more complete and official.

Just a suggestion for you guys. Have to say, these desings look badass so far.Loving the wolf guys.
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>>10580723
>Can't be racist if it's their own damn culture.

What if you're a self hating nip who loves America?
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>people still think Jynx is a racist stereotype

Do you even Ganguro?
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>>10580776
>>10580787

Let's stop this argument here.
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>>10580527
Why would you pass up the opportunity to turn a lions mane into flames surrounding it's head? I don't get why everyone else is against this one. It seems to fit so perfectly. I know fire starters have become cliche with this motif but as far as the lion goes, it's not really a contrived thing, it's just begging for it's mane to burst into flames like the sun.
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>>10580806
Oh, okay. Now it's racist against ganguro girls instead. Still racsit.
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>>10580786
We did discuss this a few threads back and that's the conclusion we reach, one guy to draw everything or two to five people drawing in the same style. but thank you anyway
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>>10580754

Fuck yes, that's awesome. Thanks so much, man.
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>>10580812
everything's basically become cliche at this point because it's overused

>purple poison type
>fire type with firey mane/tail/hair
>light blue ice type
>purple ghost type
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>>10580813
You clearly do not understand what racism is and as such I shall cease communications with you effective immediately. Good day.
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>>10580810
Why, because the other guy got totally wrecked?
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>>10580834
I think people need to remember why these things are so common.
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>>10580836
>inb4 racism is institutionalized biggotry only white people can be racist
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>>10580851
OH BOY HERE WE GO

but seriously. let's not. we've got pokemon to design
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>>10580836
I'll go ahead and design the sherpa, then, mr. high and mighty.

Ganguro girls are a part of asian culture
Jynx mocks asian culture
Jynx is racist.
Wheeee
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>>10580834
That's what I'm saying. I just think. If this were Gen 1 and the designs thought let's make a lion poke, it would be the first thing to pop into their heads that the mane lends itself incredibly well. Not to mention lions in culture are often associated with fire in mythology. I can understand that the design came up with may not have been great but the overall concept isn't really bad. I mean not when we have so many mons the list that are basically recolored stylized animals with no extraordinary features or like someone point out earlier just arbitrary elements of an arbitrarily pick "interesting" typing or completely unrelated cultural elements added.
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I kind of like the monkey one.
Everything else... No.
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>>10580868
Maybe to make it more interesting though, since it isn't enough for you guys, combine elements of the fire lion with elements of the chimera. Also I'd like to point out, staring into the face of a lion with a mane of fire around it's head would evoke images of looking into the sun. Shit I think it's a good idea but I guess the rest of you are concerning yourselves with what other fakemon makers have done. I looked on deviant art though and really didn't see many well designed lion fakemon.
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>>10580868
> mean not when we have so many mons the list that are basically recolored stylized animals with no extraordinary features or like

This is actually annoying me kind of, but likewise, it can be said about Gen 1. Ekans, rattata, butterfree, krabby, goldeen, tauros...
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>>10580890
Actually I know most of you don't see it but I;m really convinced on this idea so here are some good references for perhaps revamping the idea. It should also be noted the cultural significance of iran's sun and lion.
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>>10580895
Ya. I think you and I agree a lot on some of these things. We do need a good balance of mons that are fairly ordinary and then those that stand out. The ordinary ones I feel need a good balance between looking ordinary and looking like basic animals in the same way the more spectacular ones need a balance between being sophisticated and inspired and being overly elaborate. That's my opinion anyway.
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>>10580890
>Also I'd like to point out, staring into the face of a lion with a mane of fire around it's head would evoke images of looking into the sun.

This is actually a clever idea, and I think this is how we should be thinking when designing these. Of course, we have a cultural, natural, and mythological basis for these things however, when we think about connotations, associations, and what these things actually mean when taken in context, we can make for interesting Pokemon designs that are more than just object + animal.

Not that I'm dissing any of our fantastic designs so far.

Nor am I trying to make myself sound more important

You wanna give the wendigo wolf some antlers?
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>>10580901
Try to tell me fire isn't the first thing your mind runs to when you see this mane.
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>>10580921
Which wolf?
And no I don't think you are being mean, I think we're coming to some sort of understanding between our different opinions.
I saw this pic by the way and thought if we do wind up with both the wolf and lion in the dex, we might think of them respectively representing moon and sun.
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>>10580932
The one with the altar on its back was based off the Wendigo originally.
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>>10580901
see when I think fire lion I see it evolving into something like this, where it's mane has solidified and it's more like a solrock then a rapidash. Hell you could even slap a rock typing on it if you're so inclined, make it a living statue that was made as tribute to the sun.
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>>10580932
I guess in iran the Lion and Sun is one of the most important emblems. Also the astrological Leo is associated with fire. When I came up with the idea I wasn't blowing smoke out of my ass. Another interesting Idea is perhaps incorporating the Aztec calander face in the design since were going with the whole S. American theme.
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SO you guys at one point made a Purple frog with rocks on its back right? Thought you may wanna take a look at this:
http://deoxysdaniel.deviantart.com/art/032-Venonewt-340027343

Pic related.
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>>10580939
I didn't make that. I'd say go for it though. It'll probably look more like a wendigo if you did.
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>>10580944
I like these ideas. Damn where were these when I first pushed the concept. Anyway I'm done bombarding my agenda. Last pic for thought. I hope someone picks it up and runs with it.
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This was the art for a Pokemon named Dillweed.
I was thinking it should be either ground/grass or rock/grass (like the one on the right).
I was thinking that if it would be ground/grass, the one on the right should just have a smoother tail.
But I dislike the fact that ground/grass would have a 4x weakness to ice.
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>>10579902
Terrible sprite
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Wasn't there some sort of latin american story about a rabbit who tried to knock over a sticky scarecrow and got stuck to it?

You could pick practically any type and make a sticky-pawed rabbit with the Sticky Hold ability. Have it be one of those weird 'Normal/______' Pokemon. I think we have enough poison for it to be poison-type, or could it work as Normal/Poison?
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>>10580948
Eeh, it's not that creative of an idea. Just leave that person be, if he stole it oh well. It's deviant art
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>>10580950
>>10580921
Were there any wolves in ancient maya/aztec empire?

And are we still doing anything with that spirit coyote idea? What happened to flintaroo?

When am I finally going to see some cirque brazil up in this bitch? We need some carnival themed pokemon. Someone already mentioned maybe monkies that mimic performers? Maybe some magical jester-esque pokemon? Jugglers? Dancers?
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>>10580439
I like it. We have a lot of frog designs though. I say we put them all together and see what we like.
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>>10580973
We were originally going to combine that triptoad with the shit eating grin on his face with the tribal treefrog design to make a poison psychic acid trip hypnotoad poison dart treefrog. Whatever happened to that?
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>>10580954
I was just thinking something just like that. Although, I'm terrible at making pictures on the computer. I'll try scanning a picture onto my computer.
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>>10580932
>>10580921
I'd be all over this. Antlers would be sweet too.
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>>10580982
If it isn't the new smallest Pokemon, I will be very upset. Real life treefog size or bust. Nuke its HP, Attack, and Defense, give it ridiculous SpAtk, SpDef and Speed.
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>>10580972
Yes, there were wolves in South America. One of the only domesticated animals the mesoamericans had was the dog.
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>>10580972
Some anon made a really zany looking monkey earlier, i can see that working. And I agree we should look at other s. american cultures not just the mayans and aztecs although they are important.
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>>10581006
Agreed. Get some macaws in here, drawfriends!
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>>10580983
As am I. That's why I've been drawing then scanning and occasionally touching up in Paint.
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>>10580483

This.
We're starting to get overrun with animal Fakemon as well as Grass types. We need to start coming up with some inorganic mons and get some more outlandish designs going like the voodoo doctor penguin.
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>>10581016
Agreeing with this. I think we also need to take a break from designing new ones and handle the ones we have already. We could start by making wiki pages and changing or removing them if necessary. That may be easier to keep track of our designs rather than a bunch of images.
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>>10581033
>>10581016
This
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So I whipped this up real quick. The left is the old design. The right is starting to incorporate the Mayan calendar motif. Not much of a redesign at all actually but a start. I wanted to keep it looking like fire while also retaining the shape of a mane and evoking the spires in the Mayan calendar. If anyone else wants to add onto it, change it, edit it, come up with your completely own rendition go for it. I look forward to seeing what you guys come up with.
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>>10581066
This is probably my favorite image of the mayan calendar. Just throwing it out there
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>>10581038
>>10581033
These are good points. We've brought it up but there has hardly been any action at it. Well, is there any designers of the selected ones here so we can collaborate on finalizing them?
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>>10581066
Not bad, but it needs more too it. Give it the earings and the mouth, make it's face look like the mayan architecture more then a lion, maybe make it's legs more rocky?
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>>10581075
Maybe I can implement some of the facial decorations Mayans and Aztec would wear on their face on the lion's in order to further give the sense of this calandar.
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>>10581066
>>10581075
Wait, wait, I had an idea for just a floating Rock/Psychic Mayan Calendar legendary. I can't bring it to life myself, but maybe we should pursue a non-animal now.
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>>10581066
Make it sitting facing forward with a straight back. Think Ninetails. It makes it look more regal.
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>>10581095
I don't want to design legendaries yet. We need to know more about the plot/story first.
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>>10581095
Will look too much like bronzong.
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>>10581103
That's the point. Bronzong has some pretty mayan/aztec designs going on.
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>>10581090
I'll get to it eventually. Definitely like the earrings idea as well as maybe some face paint type features. Will draw it bigger later and further work out the mane.
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>>10581095
Don't let the detractors limit your creativity. It doesn't necessarily need to be a legendary though, but either way go for design it.
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>>10580833
It looks like we aren't taking many more ideas, but here's the finished product for you.
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>>10579686
>Mustaches on Pokemon
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Dragon/Poison legendary.
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>>10581157
Legendaries don't evolve. Also like >>10581101
said, we shouldn't design legendaries until we have characters and plot decided.

If it were to be a regular Pokemon: I like the concept, however we need more change in between the species. Each one looks like a larger version with meaner eyes and more fins.
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>>10581153
Not a mustache yo, it's a mouth. The bits underneath are just a pattern (which is why you can see it under the mouth of the evo)
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>>10579686
It looks too similar to Exploud.
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>>10581157
>Legendary
>Evolutions
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>>10579686
This was my first thought
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>>10581101
Make is pseudo-legendary or keep the final form for consideration for a Poison legendary(because there hasn't been a poison legendary yet).
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>>10579964
More info on that ice wolf with... the.. engine?? on it's back? It's the first time I've seen it, and I like it!
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>>10581157
>Legendary
>Three stage
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>>10581243
Not the same guy, but I think it's a puzzlebox.
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>>10581134
I love these especially the first stage
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Can we decide on these aspects:
- Number of legendaries
- Whether said legendaries will be part of the game's plot because
interacting with legendaries was optional in Gen I and II.
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>>10581262
Crystal would like to have a word with you.
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Added a few more pages for pokemon designs that people seemed to like. Any others that stand out?
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Does anyone with computer drawing experience think they can take this design and make it more simplified/smoothly drawn sigmori like? I added crystal wendigo horns as well and some face paint. I'm kinda running with the idea that this thing is like a shaman-esque guardian of crystal caverns high in the snowy mounts. I can't really get the crystals around the neck to look that they are dangling shaman necklace though...
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>>10581278
I like this guy a lot, I just wish I had more time to contribute something at the moment
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>>10581278
Oh, I like this guy, too, but he looks like a wolf form of the Lynx?
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I was trying to make the blue things feathers, but to no avail.
I was thinking some sort of Mayan based ghost.
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>>10581303
The colors are very similar. Originally i had him basically grey white and black. He's supposed to be pinniped. So anyone willing to redraw it feel welcome to either draw it slowched or as a quadraped.
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>>10581262
It all depends on the storyline. If it is something that involves them, then yes. If it doesn't, then no. My favorite idea does involve the legendaries (that one with the spirit world and the scientists?), so in that case we would need to design them according to plot.

I would say the two/three main ones, a side trio, and maybe two others? Or we could just have two pseudo-legendaries instead (those poison/water were contestants if I recall correctly). The duo/trio and side trio are basically a given, though.
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>>10581322
I think it would be best to keep it biped to make it less like the ice lynx. Obviously there are differences, as species, but the ice necklace and ice claws are the same concept.

Tbh, I like wolves better, so a biped ice werewolf is cooler in my opinion, despite spending a while day working on the Lynx.
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mofuckin gemsbok niggaz
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Guys.

We need to start a pastebin or a DOCX Everytime we start these threads we get the same questions and responses,

This way, we doccument all the stuff we've agreed on, what we have to show, and what can be worked out upon.

We have ideas for leaders, about 70 something pokemon, a vague idea of the teams and evil organization, let's write it all down already.

Ever been to /vg/ you know what I'm talking about.
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>>10581389

How could we have ideas for gym leaders without having Pokemon and Pokemon placement completed? Let's not get ahead of ourselves, that's something we should start working on when we get much farther along.
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>>10581389
Agreed, each time we start a thread everyone comes in and goes "These look bad" or, "What happened to X???"

We need to be able to show ALL the stuff we've done in one post.
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>>10581397
I think it might have been some typing ideas, any maybe some personalities. Although they can be rearranged, I agree that they'll most likely be completely changed.

>>10581399
I can take a crack at building one. Although I don't have everything saved, I'll need to go and collect the pictures.
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anyone think that a dragonfly line would be good?
including the larvae state.
if i didn't suck so badly at drawing i would try myself
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Are you guys doing evo's of prev generation pokemon in this pokedex?

If so, I'd like to suggest Mismagius.
I don't know why, but it's my favorite pokemon.

I'm a pretty good artist, so I could probably draw up a few things.
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>>10581419
Is Vibrava/Flygon based off of Dragonflies? And Yanma/Yanmega? You'd need a unique combo,...
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>>10581419
Actually, a dragonfly pokemon would be very good. We have a shortage of bug pokemon, and we could always design it around another type we're lacking in. Fire/bug or water/bug, maybe?
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>>10581433
water/bug sounds good
the larvae normally live in the water, so it fits perfectly
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>>10581433

>Fire/bug or water/bug, maybe?

Those aren't how you spell "Bug/Dragon."
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Quick idea I had for a sort of crystal tiger, was thinking of the poem The Tyger and came up with it. Might be better if it actually looked...crystally. Not sure even what type it would be, maybe psychic?
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>>10581134

OH GOD, YES.

Looks fucking awesome, thanks so much dude.

What do other people think? Lookin' good? To clarify, middle is a beanbug (Bug type) that evolves based on which of its stats is highest at level 20. If it's speed, it evolves to the one above. (Bug/Lightning originally, but that looks more Bug/Flying) With high Attack or Special Attack, it evolves into the one on the bottom right (Bug Poison). With high defense or special defense, it evolves into the bottom left. (Bug/Ground). The three evolutions are based on coffee beans, poison beans, and cocoa beans, respectively.
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>>10581446
We could do that too. I don't know how many dragon pokemon we have at the moment, though, we might want to pay attention.
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>>10581433
>>10581445
Just a reminder, the fish thing here is a water/bug based on a tongue parasite from south America(?)>>10579696
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>>10581453
Tyger Tyger Burning bright
in the forests of the night!

I love that poem! I also like the dynamic of the pose. What are those things above it's shoulder of to the left? I think Rock/Psychic?
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>>10581385
come on niggers gemsbok
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Where's the eevee evo you faggots.
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>>10581389

I could set up a DropBox, that way we could have folders with all of the Pokemon in them, and sort them by Confirmed/Needs Work/Concept Only/Borderline/Rejected.

Everyone down with that?

>>10581419
>>10581428
>>10581433
>>10581445
>>10581446

How about a Bug/Water Dragonfly Pokemon which then evolves into a Bug/Dragon, because haha, Surskit v2, wasting dat typing
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>>10581465
I was thinking having something like spears coming off it/ floating around it to make it a little more interesting; "When the stars threw down their spears/And watered heaven with their tears"
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>>10581472

The dex is suppose to be completely original. No eeveelutions.
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Not that great of an artist, but How about a psychic type based of the mayan statues? Like a golem?

Something like this
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>>10581487
Well damn.
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>>10581487
This project is seeming less fun and more serious ever since you started commanding everyone.



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