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BURNING ARKS FREEDOM Edition
Servers down until full release comes out on the 4th.

>How to register:
http://bumped.org/psublog/phantasy-star-online-2-pre-open-beta-registration-guide/

>Frequently Asked Questions and Information (READ THIS):
http://pastebin.com/q9w86Tbz

>Other In-Game Information:
http://pastebin.com/PEBm1AMj

>Skill Tree Simulator:
http://ryuhiroshi.ry.funpic.de/

>Official Blog:
http://ameblo.jp/sega-psblog

>Bumped Site: (News and Blog translations)
http://bumped.org/psublog/

>Japanese Wiki:
http://wikiwiki.asia/pso2/

>Story Translation on PSO-W:
http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194721
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>lisa will never force you down and shove a rifle in her ass ;_;
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>trying to make the new thread myself
>"The connection to the server was reset." "The connection to the server was reset." "The connection to the server was reset." "The connection to the server was reset." "The connection to the server was reset."

Damnit Firefox, you never work for me when I actually NEED you to.

...Anyway. For those as of yet unaware, the AC charge server goes online on July 3rd at 2:00 AM EST (in 2 hours or so as of this post). Pictured are your payment options. Who's going to test the waters and seize the market first thing?
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>>8754948

...Seriously, I'm going to punch this browser.
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SEGA NO WANT YOUR FILTHY FOREIGNER MONEY

YEN STRONG

YEN SMASH

You'll either have to use a thir party which'll charge nearly 200%, or hope Sega makes cards like they did with PSU.
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>>8755053
then explain >>8755010
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>>8755232
They won't accept a card with a foreign billing address.
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>>8755053

Some of the allowed payment methods can be piggybacked on by eWallets like PayPal, as someone in the previous thread explained for which I am quite grateful. So thankfully you only have to worry about the currency conversion, and USD/CAD to Japanese Yen isn't too bad.

I may test it myself with a minimal charge if I can get one of the sites to work without any fuss. No promises though.
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>>8755386
You sure? They were happy to take my Visa for PSU.
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Lost track of question in another thread, but has sega stated whether AC bought items are tradable?
Assuming the things like mag/stat reset/skill resets/skill trees/new char etc etc stuff are all in a ticket kind of form.
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>Spend all day waiting for PSO2 to install
>PSO2 finishes patching
>Servers are down
FUCK EVERYTHING IN THIS CRUEL WORLD.
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>>8756356

All unbound items are tradeable; your question depends on whether or not AC items auto-bind to you upon acquisition... sadly I'm not sure if they do or not.

And on the subject of trading, I have a question of my own: I know only Premium users (or people who simply bought the trade function) can initiate trades, but does the person you're trying to trade WITH need to buy the option too?
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>>8756356

CBT every single thing was tradeable
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Do you think servers will be global at the end of it all?
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>>8757273

And by tradeable I mean being able to buy it from the auction house without premium.
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>>8757318
By the end of the world ala 2012?

no
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How sure are we that they won't bill foreign cards?
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Anyone else get this sword?
T'was my second goal for the OB. First was lvl to 30, but it didnt workout
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>>8757332
you can buy from player shop, for free.
to set up a shop to sell, costs arks cash
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>>8756385
had it downloaded since closed beta.
U mad?


im going to have a wonderful Independence Day.
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So much FUN. I just wish there were more people out there to have bombastic adventures with.
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>>8757469
There's a million of those on the AH
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When are the servers going up?
Also, how do you add NPCs to your party?
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>>8757876
no i mean, get one from vol dragon.
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Update is live.

>10mb

Seriously?
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>>8757896

First question: July 4th at 1:00 AM EST.
Second question: When you're in the campship, check the circle-! symbol. First tab is NPC bots, second tab is Friend bots.
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>>8757940
mine is on the AH
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>>8757896
servers go up July 4th, you have to do a quest to unlock NPc's. in the campship (room where you jump into the pool/portal thing) and on the left is a window with a yellow circle
and you click on it and can summon NPC's
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>>8758006
have you actually used it?
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>>8758064
If it's on the AH, obviously he hasn't.
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Anyone else have Avira saying that this is a virus?
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Phantasy Star Universe was the best in the series.
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>>8758094
>>8758006
tbh, when i got it and used it, i thought it sucked major dick
but once you start using it and set the PA up that matches perfect with your style or combat.
fucking hell, its an awesome weapon.
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>>8757991
Server is down for days? fuuuckk
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>>8758196

gtfo.
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>>8758215
down for a day and a half`
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>>8758196
Ethan was a likable and well-written hero that really distinguished himself as both a man and a hero.
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>>8758212
You make it sound like it has different properties or something.

All I see is a sword, the requirement, and the damage.
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>>8758260
Also, the combat system was unique and had a lot of depth. It is rare to find a game with such an impressive array of combos and attacks to choose from.
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>>8758287
thats basically it. but people fight different.
i always have a wide selection of PA, which is always good. no matter what weapon your using.
the sword sucks it your just holding down REFT CRICK button.
im saying PA's make it better to use
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>>8758320
Ambition of the Illuminus is also the greatest expansion in recent history. I really felt engaged tagging along with Laia and sharing her experiences. And going from offline to online a third of the way through the story helped me learn how to get online so I could play all of the online games on my PS2.
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>>8758416
Poorfag reporting in.
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>>8758372
>holding down the button

Out. Get out.
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I just got to the desert and didn't get to fight any desert bosses, the servers went down in the middle of the mission. Why..?
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im done with this games. It's way to grindy. I love the anime style and the combat. I just don't like the fact have to grind for hours for a kawaii maid hat. Just gonna wait for guild wars. Was fun while it lasted. Later bros
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>>8758252
Servers will be up 24 hours from now

>>8758570
Servers are down because they said so 500 times.
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>>8758595
>he never did city mission burst parties!
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>>8758595
You sound like someone who played it alone and didn't do the quests.
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>>8758372

This, a thousand times this. The sword with just its basic attacks is lacking compared to the other three Hunter weapons, but once you get suitable PAs, it's your best method of DPS. Getting the Sword Gear skill takes it a couple steps further if you're patient.
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>>8758758

Is Sword Gear worth it since you have to basically waste 3 points on Guard Stance to get it?
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>>8758852
You have to do that to get S-ATK Up anyways.
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How did everyone's last minute shopping go before the servers went down?

I snagged myself a ton of rappy souls for units. Also all of the 9-star unit sets for cheap.
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>>8758629
they will open 1am tomorrow JP time. JP is 13 hours ahead
so it will be up EST at 12 am (AFTERNOON WEDNESDAY)
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>>8758984
FUCK, 12 "pm" i mean.
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>>8758984
I don't think you calculated that right.
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>>8758984
it's 14:00JST for release
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>>8758852

sword gear is a must for sword user. Sword gear is also for a hunter that doesn't want to kill 10 guys at once and still heavenly fall all over bosses.
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>>8759074
well shit.
An hero time!
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GEE I SURE WOULD LOVE THIS TO COME OT EU OR NA
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>>8759154
if you go sleep now there will be 12 hours less to wait!
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>>8759195
BUT I DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR IT

ENTITLED AS FUCK
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>>8759204
make that 15.
Heavy sleeper here
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T-the servers are down for 2 days? And this was my last night off this week... FUCK THIS EARTH UGH. I was just starting to fucking understand the game.
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>>8759217
It's free to play though I would pay money for it not to be in moonrunes
fuck you
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>>8759325
one day

this is probably the worst place to ask but does anyone know if the inventory expansions are permanent?
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>>8759217
the game is free.
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>>8759325
I'll befriend you and help out with speedruns if you stay~
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>>8758852

Oh, very much so. Here's a list of what the PAs do with the Gear:

-Rising Edge: This is one of the two charge-up attacks that aren't normally practical, but if you max out the Gear, the charge-up becomes nigh-instantaneous. Hurts like the devil if you can Just Attack-chain three of them.
-Twister Fall: Honestly not sure what this does with Sword Gear, as I've never tried it. I'll find out later.
-Nova Strike: The other charge-up attack, same deal as Rising Edge.
-Stun Concido: The stun time increases drastically with maxed Gear. As a protip, this makes dealing with the Gilnas enemies a LOT easier, especially if you stun them with their core opened up.
-Sonic Arrow: The blades get bigger and hit more times as the Gear gauge fills up. At max, this will rip through whole groups of enemies like a hot knife through butter.
-Cruel Throw: A straight damage buff. With my current sword, I can max-Gear-Just-Attack Cruel Throw an El Arda (the other kind of Darker flier) for over 1.5k damage.
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>>8759487
Well that sounds lovely.
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What the fuck is taking so long to update the english translation patch?
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>>8759517
>>8759090

Thanks for the info. Now I can't wait to play again!
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>>8759661
Game refuses to take their files in.
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Trying to make a decent Lambda... Opinions? Help?
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>>8759661
protip: no one is working on it
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>>8759910
That's what I thought. He runs into one snag and quits. Ironic he has a list of 'script kiddies' on his blog.
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>mfw nobody linked the new thead in the old one until after 70+ posts
>mfw no jew tutorial image
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>>8760284
They also NEVER put the Character Creator in OP.

We seriously need a new person to do the OP
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqhiRb1R2AQ

Enjoy PSE Burst!
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>>8760284
It's a problem, it is the OP's job to fucking link these things. It's rather rude to leave the old thread die and then make everyone who did not get the memo just scouring around. If OP cannot just take the link and link it to old so everyone from there know to forward to new one the OP should not make a new thread at all and leave the job to someone who DOES link it.

Yeah I vote somone else to do NEW THREAD everytime. Even Hyperdimension Neptunia generals have better OP.
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>>8760468
Fucking Vegas stop blanking out my videos.
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>>8759910
>>8760114
Huh? What happened?
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( `_ `)
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None of this shit are mine
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>>8760619
Stop being an exhibitionist, you slut.
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>>8760651
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>>8760468
>faggot posting his shitty youtube videos

get out.
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>>8760672
>cropping the image so it doesnt get detected as duplicate
I'm also very bad at this.
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>>8760734
>png
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>>8760763
>mfw I read this as "likes cats"
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>PSE BURST!
>8 people photon blast at once
>OH MY GOD WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING
>WHY IS EVERYTHING EXPLODING EVERYWHERE FOREVER
>MY EYES ARE BLEEDING
>ONE MORE!
>I DON'T EVEN KNOW ANYMORE, JUST KEEP FIRING
>FUCK YES, YOU ARE THE BEST PARTY EVER

And that was my first City Mission.
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>>8760797
moonrunes for grinder
グラインダー
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>>8760763
>shit that's wrong and incomplete

Save the other version, delete that one
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>>8760860
last one
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>>8759204
>mfw I have to take a friend to the airport in 3 hours
>sleeping for 12 hours
I mean sleep is good and all, assuming you actually do something besides sitting on your ass all day playing games and having fun
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>>8760763
just post the good one dammit, you god damned faggot
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>>8760802
I don't know why people spam Photon Blasts when it starts. I don't know if it helps, if it's just for show, or what.

But damn if it isn't orgasmic.
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>>8760873
Didn't notice there was another version

>>8760972
Was about to
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>>8760939
but i don't have any left, I spent it all on scratchcards
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>>8761009
Always bet on FOnewearl ass.
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>>8761002
Well go notice it in the old thread and hurry up.

Shit it even has wlance and partisan mislabeled.
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>>8760860
S-someone saved my image? ararara
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>>8761057
hurry up on what? You already posted it
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>>8761098
Wasn't me, I was replying to a backquote and hadn't scrolled down.
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>>8760994
I get pretty hard when there's shit blowing all over the place and a huge countdown timer ontop of my screen yo
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So, is there anything you guys need translated from the JPWiki? Got nothing to do right now.
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So who let all the faggots join the team and let them start taking over the team chat with all their role playing.
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>>8761208
How about a translation of the menu that pops out when you click on someone? Or a translation of the art editor

yes I know this requires to be online
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>>8761208
Hard mode "collect X shit from X mob" repeatable quests please?
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>>8761289
I think the first is already done. I might do the latter when it comes back online.

>>8761315
Okay, gimme a sec to see if I can find 'em.
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>>8761315
Who hands 'em out?
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23 hours.

Someone prepare new shit for the OP for when the game launches.
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>>8761392
Whatserface. The ugly chick just South of Xeno. Franka.

Most of them are on the Bumped blog, anyways.
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Am I going the right way with this? Decided to try out hunter after being bored with launcher spamming everything to death as a ranger.

I prefer using swords so I went for sword gear. However, I'm not sure if I should get Fury Stance over S-atk up 1 and 2 instead.
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>>8761458
Yes. That second S-ATK Up's only giving you, like, 9 points at 3. Take those eight points and get the first rank of Fury Stance.
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>>8761458
Drop S-ATK UP 2 and a couple of ranks from HP Up 2 and grab Just Guard and Just Counter. Sword can guard cancel damn near anything and has the worst dodge.
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>>8761727
>>8761532

Alright, thanks for the input. I'm curious as to why automate halfline has 10 points though. Why does it need that many points?
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>>8761809
doesn't always proc; more points=more chance of procing

either way it's a waste of points
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>>8761809
Because it's a useless piece of shit. At 10 you only have a 50% chance of it even working. There's so many better things you could be doing with it. Besides, with decent gear and learning how to into guard/dodge, you'll rarely take over two-digit damage.
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>>8761809
Higher % chance to trigger. 50% chance at max, with how valuable skill points are it's an absolute waste of points.
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Are the servers back up yet?
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I'm assuming there won't be a wipe of characters? I'm not seeing anyone panic or whatnot...
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thinking of going tanky partisan build; good idea/bad idea?
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>>8761924

Nope.
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So any news on the english patch? Like, real news? Does anyone know anything? Are they still working on it? Sources, progressions, anything of the sort? If there's only one thing blocking them, it seems like they'd be able to talk about it, or at least say they haven't tried in days.
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alright, I'm new at this game. How do you allocate stats and crap like this?>>8761925
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>servers go down
>suddenly, skill tree faggotry

Que sera. Need to fork out for a second tree, now that I know how useless Fury Critical is.
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Does anyone else play as Force? Any hints or tips for a 20~ Fonewm who only understands the basics.
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>>8760672

...There's no way that's accurate. My Hunter is Lv. 28 and he can't even break 500 HP without weapon/armor boosts like Vol Soul.
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>>8762165
That's for level 100.
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>>8761976
They explained multiple times that the problem holding back the patch is that the open beta used a new encryption that they've been having trouble breaking. I'll laugh my ass off if they say full release has yet another new form of encryption that sets them back to square one.
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>>8762056
talk to the male npc at the left counter in the gate room, opposite of the nurse station; he manages your skill trees and swapping between classes.

skill tree simulator is in OP
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>>8762165
>my HUnewearl with four +30 HP souls equipped has over 500

Are you even trying?
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Since PSO2 is coming PC, PSV, and Smart Phones, what do you guys think the chances are that it'll come to PS3
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>>8761458
I wish they'd give you a chance to try out all 3 gears but alas, that was back in CBT.

Here's what I can say about Sword Gear though, since you seem interested in that one - Sword is one of the most versatile gears in that the normal attacks are somewhat fast (compared with Wired Lance), and the gear doesn't deplete as long as you are doing damage. This makes the gear ideal for boss fights, since the longer you fight, the more your DPS climbs.

The S-ATK Up skill's purpose is to allow you to equip higher tier weapons sooner rather than later, and this is particularly useful if you are not maining Hunter and your Mag's points are elsewhere, such as R-ATK or T-ATK .

For both Guard Stance and Fury Stance, both the bonus and penalty are improved by investing points, and I'd recommend 5 points in either.

Just Guard allows you to not only negate lots of damage if you guard at the right moment, but you also start reflecting damage. I'd recommend dodging rather than blocking, though.

The way the tree is looking right now, it seems like Sword-HU has all the tools you need to keep enemies' attention and weather attacks from a mob, or else simply keep the aggro of a boss and allow your party to DPS without dodging. Not to mention that the typical drop in DPS that most RPG tanks suffer is somewhat negated by the fact that Sword Gear is such a great boost. I'm not recommending that you tank though, just food for thought.
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>>8762187

Ffffff, really? There goes my dream of being a Hunter with full Vol Dragon armor (not enough base R-DEF). Unless I buy a new Mag that's pumped with R-DEF but why would you even aefuiahegtouaehoiy

Guess I actually have to do a Ranger spec.
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>>8762075
get your goddamn just counter son.

then dump the rest in fury stance for extra bonuses; remember, the cap will be raised to 40 so that means 40 points to play with
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>>8762297
Partisan PAs cancel with dash or jump, so guard isn't as useful with them.
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>>8762295
only if you're a full retard minmaxing faggot; once you factor in equipment and skill trees and whatnot really it's all the same. it's the OTHER PS games where race had hard impacts on your performance
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>>8761925
Partisan-class weapons have somewhat lower damage than other weapons types. I would recommend making room for 5 points in Fury Stance, which will net you over 100 S-ATK while it's active. I would also suggest dropping the Guard talents, Partisans are a fast weapon and are generally easy to dodge cancel, even their lengthy PAs can be dodge-canceled at almost any moment.

If you want to tank, I suggest using a sword, since a Partisan's attack animations are your method of generating Gear meter, and if you spend a lot of time blocking instead of attacking from blind spots, you'll be reducing your effectiveness.
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>>8762273

Ah, I see. Thanks for the input. I'm not too keen on blocking though, since I'm pretty okay when it comes to dodging and invincible frames (thank you Monster Hunter)

I guess I'll be getting fury stance then.
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>>8762198
Yeah, I know about the encryption thing. I'm just wondering if they've made ANY progress, or if they're essentially STILL at square one.
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>>8761315
I used most of the Bumped monster names since it looks like everyone's more used to them.
Is this what you wanted?
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>>8762407
I don't think Fury stance is worth it, because of a flat increase. Even JA's 10% for 10 points might be a better deal in the long run.
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>>8762376
>being a HUnewearl was nerfed to hell and back
>go braver instead

I couldn't survive two consecutive Dark Falz Dios hits, and that's the way I liked it, dammit.
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yes no maybe try again?
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Is 40 gonna be the end limit, or will it go up later?
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Thinking about this for an all-around kind of Hunter build, I know that wired lances are typically considered the best of the weapon choices but I'm not a fan, I do love me some Sword and Partisan though.
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>>8762461
Keep in mind that currently the Level cap is going to be...40, I think. That's not very high, and still low enough for 100 attack to give you some great mileage. Supposing you have about 1k S-ATK, 10% of that is 100 ATK. You're getting that much out of 5 points into fury stance, without the need to JA any attacks, as well as applying the attack bonus to your PAs (which the JA bonus does NOT do for HU).

I would go as far as to say that should the numbers climb higher after a level cap increase, SEGA will retool the skill trees to include more %-based talents.
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>>8762579
needs more just counter.
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>>8762593
Those two S-ATK Ups combined won't be as goos as just macing the first.
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>>8762590
final cap will be 200

actual cap will go up as new areas are released/story progresses
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>>8762463
My human male (read: highest defense in the game) still got one shot by bosses at S and infinity rank. Your character's race wasn't the issue. It was the fact that defense meant jack shit in PSP2 and even less in Infinity. A newman with maxed evasion was a far better tank than a human because evasion tanking was the only viable tanking in the game.
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>>8762641
good to know.
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>>8762461
Assuming flat increase from S-Atk (i.e 2 S-Atk would double the damage of 1 S-Atk), J-Bonus is equal to Fury Stance at 1.5k S-Atk and better from then on out.
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>>8762593
Wire Lance isn't the best by any means. I'd drop Fury Stance if you're only putting 3 points in it, put 10 points in S-ATK Up 1 before starting on 2 since you get more from higher levels.
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打撃アップ1(Striking Attack Up 1)
Raises Striking Attack.

Lv1 +3
Lv2 +6
Lv3 +10
Lv4 +14
Lv5 +18
Lv6 +23
Lv7 +28
Lv8 +34
Lv9 +40
Lv10 +50

Look at dat scaling.
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>>8762461
>150 S-atk bonus
>equal to 20 levels worth of s-atk
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Welp. I'm off to sleep. See ya lads.
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>>8762794
That's pretty much the default of all the stat boost skills. As said by >>8762641 that 4 and 5 would be worth 32, while 9 is worth 40 and didn't require HP Up 2.
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>>8762823
S-ATK Up lets you equip weapons earlier (at 30 cap it was literally the ONLY way to equip the best weapons in the game for both Sword and Wire Lance). There's also no defence penalty and he had to put a few points in it for Sword Gear. Shit is situational bro.
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>>8762075
>now that i know how useless Fury Critical is

wait what? why is this useless?
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>>8762905
Crits just make you do the max of your default damage range, not a multiplier.
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>>8762940
... well fuck, when was this learned?
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>>8762905
fury critical makes you do the maximum of your damage range, which isn't bad per se, but JA/Satk points raise your overall damage and are easier to get to in the tree
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>>8762905
Crits make you do top end damage of your standard damage range. Rather than the standard 1.5x, 2x or whatever that most games use. If you have a very wide range of damage crits are pretty good, but if not they're pretty mediocre. For 10 extra points spent you get an absolutely miniscule damage increase.
Here's a testing video so you can see for yourself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JEsjX-9-lw
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Bonuses for buying AC have been announced. For every 2000 AC you buy, you'll get 2x rare item drop +50%.

Not much of a good deal, but I was contemplating buying 10,000 AC any way just to get it out the way with.
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Did anyone try to buy AP yet?
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>>8763090
>AP

I mean AC
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AC purchasing is now up.
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As long as we're being skilltree faggots, let's get some other trees in the mix. Thoughts?
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>>8763113
Just tried using my gaijin card for 1,000. Looks like it went through. We'll see if it stays that way.
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>>8763016
good lord, why....
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>>8763016
Time to waste money on a reset.
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>>8763213
Why not put points in PP up? Just curious. It's similar to the build I'm going for.
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>>8763213
Hey that's my skill tree exactly.

I think I picked badly, Ice seems kind of terrible especially when I could be spamming SaZonde.
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>only had to put in card number
>no other information

Everything went better than expected.
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>>8763289
I'm quite fond of Rafoie, it only costs 20 PP and is AoE. 20 PP is nothing.
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>>8763086
this is some pay to win pullshit
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>>8763373
>pay to win

Win what?
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>>8763279
pp up is a scam; you only get 1pp per skill point spent
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>>8760901
For <target>, do you have to lock on?
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>>8763395
>pay real monie for AC
>get drop rate boosters for buying a set amount
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>>8763403
Seriously?!? I'm so glad I didn't invest in PP up yet.
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>>8763439
No. Just shows the last thing the game targetted (displayed info box for). Even if you don't currently have an active target it shows your last one. It's nice for letting Japs know a boss has spawned in multiparty areas.
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>>8763449
No, what do you win?
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>>8763449
>Getting things for buying things
OH SHIT
ALERT THE MEDIA
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>>8763449
>rare drop boosters
>thinking it's pay to win

sooo you just get cooler looking weapons than everyone else...and that's somehow pay to win becaaaaauuuuuse?
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>>8763334
So you used a regular credit card? Did it already transfer on your Transactions?
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>>8763472
That's why I wanted to know.
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>>8763472
I had my PA autoword to say something about the enemy i was whacking on and it kept turning out like "19+2moonrunes"

what the fuck?
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>>8763373
No, pay to win would be Sega will sell you the rares directly, complete with grinds and bonuses and make it so playing without it is impossible.
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>>8763213
Incredibly situational. You'll feel very gimped except when you're on Amduskir. Freezing happens very infrequently, freeze boost is a mere 10% boost, and freeze ignition is pretty much only useful against vol dragon and catadran. I'll admit freeze ignition is powerful, but a generalist force can put out the same damage WAY more regularly with charged techs on weak points that have been hit with weak shot. It just doesn't make sense to gimp yourself in every other tree just to be really good on one planet.
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>>8763521
Last thing you had targetted was 19+2 Meseta, I'd wager.
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>>8763542
Which techs can allow you to target weak points? I never tried aiming Gizonde with TPS mode, I only know of Foie.
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>>8763492
Normal card. Won't be able to tell til morning.
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>>8763289
how exactly would a bolt tree work anyway? isn't the philosophy behind that branch of the tree 'screw charging', meaning you don't take the 'required' charge pp?
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>>8763628
Going full charge doesn't seem to take much more PP considering it does like quadruple damage.
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>>8763542
what tree setup would you recommend then?
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For the zip code can I just put any japanese zip code?
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>>8763602
Just about any tech can hit a weak point. You just have to put a talis close enough to where you want to hit. As for techs that make it mindless to hit a weak point, ra foie, barta (assuming the weak point is on or near ground level), and grants are good spammers.
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Please stop asking if your skill tree is good or not.

If there's any game where your efficiency and DPS doesn't mean SHIT, it's PSO. Just have fun
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>>8763723
The PSO-W people have just been using Sega's HQ.

Postal
〒140-8583

Address
東京都品川区東品川1丁目39番9号 カナルサイドビル

Phone
3-5736-7111
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>>8763832
I don't consider paying for resets or more trees fun
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>get 10,300AC
>spend it all on AC scratch for the Lisa outfit
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>>8763862
Thanks
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>>8763891
>10.3k AC

how much was it?
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Rarity.

http://pso2.jp/players/catalog/scratch/ac/
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>>8763680
As the file name states, this is my current build. It's very much a generalist build that banks on the inevitable payoff of percent over flat stat increases, but I consistently do 900-1200 damage per ra foie with this setup. Barta tends to do 500-650, and gi zonde does 600-800. I'm not blowing the lid off of damage rankings, but I can wreck shit on any planet.
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>>8763890
Why pay for resets when you can just get a new tree for cheaper?

I'll give you the fact it's retarded that having your tree simply reset costs 1000 AC, double the 500 it asks you for in exchange for a new tree.

But you can have a maximum of 20 trees per character, so you wont need a reset any time soon.
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>>8763985

10K yen
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>>8763985
I'm guessing like $130
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>>8763086
>>8763373
>>8763486

Implying the rare drop rate wasn't already fine the way it was. Just look at the bloody Player Shop and you'll see rares by the dozens.

These boosters are a transparent moneygrab, through and through. Spend as much money as you THINK you need to spend, don't blow more of it than necessary on something that may not even yield the desired result.
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>>8763832

You can have your fun but there'll be moments where shit hits the fan where party leaders will kick players from left to right, due to shitty stats. I hope this game never reaches this point.
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>>8764057

Yeah, I just need to get the inventory expanders and that's it.

Oh, and maybe a new MAG
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>>8763998
God damnit they have the hair I originally wanted although it looks uglier now
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>>8763890
>Implying the skills won't be rebalanced or they won't add to the skill tree in a way that makes you completely regret your choice.
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>Looking through the AC prizes list
>レアドロップ倍率+100%
>+100% Rare Drop Increase
>30 Minutes

HORY SHEET
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>>8764095
I have the solution: never buy anything more than the first 3 points in the first skill for the first year or so, or until the first expansion.
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soon
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>>8764190
Blue eyes.
I am not pleased.
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>>8764163

Hurrah! Now I may have a chance at that Pycho wand with a .0002 chance
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>>8764190

seems to me like everyone and their mother that has a female cast is going to sport these....

they'll lose value almost instantly and most likely nobody will ever wear them again
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>>8764243
Good thing I'm a male human and the FOnewm duds are already the pimpinest outfit that will ever be in the game.

Enjoy your AC sponge.
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>獲得メセタ+100%
>Meseta Gain +100%

DOSH, GRAB IT WHILE YOU CAN LADS
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>>8764095
Even the jewiest of companies(read nexon) give 1 free respec if they drastically change talent trees.
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>>8764082
Every MMO reaches that point. Power gamer scum always find something to latch on to (whether it be stat distribution, skill tree builds, or gear), spend months autistically calculating min-maxed "uber builds", then get on anywhere people talk about the game to embark on a campaign to make it so that anyone who's not using "xXx1337sNiP3rZ420_247's uber (fill in class) build" is ostracized from the game's community. I never got into PSO before it was on private servers, but I can well imagine that anyone whose mag didn't follow a certain, exact build for their race and class, and woe be to the poor bastard who picked an inoptimal race and class combo, was persona non grata in any room.
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extra skill path.
so i can swap between builds?
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Will additional skill trees add a skill tree for all classes or is it per class?
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>>8764328
OH BOY, MY YELLOW CRYSTALS WILL BE WORTH 10 EACH INSTEAD OF 5... wait...
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>>8764390
yes
>>8764408
only one for one class
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>>8764423
On hard mode most of the meseta drops are like 200+. Only monster drops are small like 5-10.
Given that, its still quite ineffective, yes.
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>get a couple of AC scratch cards
>all of them are meseta boosters

I can actually see this happening. Seriously, fuck this gambling bullshit.
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>>8764450

BALLS, fucked up both ranger and hunter trees.
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>>8764504
Its like mobamas all over again
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>>8764373
>>8764082
See that makes sense in a game where you are actually doing something challenging and a bad or undergeared player can ruin the whole operation. Basically, an actual MMO.

PSO is NOT an MMO, it's a co-op game where you run and slash at stuff, you have to be playing very stupidly to actually die and if you do die there is no penalty except you have to try again, which you can do immediately with no cooldown.
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>>8764504
I mentioned this in another thread, but the Japanese government is trying to outlaw this after a bunch of teenagers were found to be spending the yen equivalent of thousands of dollars a month on this kind of lotto system. Not sure how the companies would make money without constantly fucking over the players, though.
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>people putting points into improve charge
>people ignoring gizonde and sazonde

ishiggydiggydingdong
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>>8764504
in alpha people were presented with a bunch of AC points, like 1000, while every draw costed 10.
I'd say it drops more or less fair. Its exactly how its shown in the drop chart - lots of expendables and furniture with 20-30% chance of getting outfit. So, in the end I had quite a bunch of outfits on my hand. In comparison to mobamas its very democratic.

BUT there are two issues you should consider:

1. You will get a bonus item for getting ALL outfits in gacha draw. In alpha it was a rappy costume
2. You can exchange your unwanted gacha outfits for a free coloring ticket

so, don't worry, even if the gacha will be fair, you will still waste all your estate business in it.
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so if I want to start playing I have to wait until the 4th?
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>>8764571
heh, just wait for time attack missions.
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>>8763998

Don't care, I just want this.
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>>8764373
Nobody gave a shit in PSO1 because it's not that type of game, and this isn't either. The only place where anything mattered was challenge mode which favored certain races and classes, but it was easy enough to work around and even a fun challenge.

It's just not that type of game. Realistically, you are going to enter a game, if you don't have a good weapon people will just assume one never dropped for you, and no one will even know what the fuck your skill tree is because they can't see it.
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>>8764650
They actually made it illegal in Japan to do the whole "collect X amount of items from gacha to get real prize" thing, so it probably won't be like that now.
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>>8764650
>1. You will get a bonus item for getting ALL outfits in gacha draw. In alpha it was a rappy costume
This was outlawed by Japanese government right after the beta ended. Japanese game companies aren't allowed to offer a larger prize you unlock by getting all the individual gatcha prizes.
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>>8764712
They also made pachinko illegal long ago, did something change?
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>>8764687
thats what they said every time gacha assortment got refreshed
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>>8764761
There is a reason the place where you earn Pachinko balls and the place you exchange them are separate buildings. They would not be allowed to pull that outfit within a single game (product)
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>>8764645
Why throw 1 point into ice instead of just getting just reversal?
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>>8764672
First of all we don't even know if the time attack mission has any reward other than just being on a stupid ranking quest, and second I doubt most people are going to start their serious time attack runs by making an open party and waiting for three strangers to join.

Even back on PSO1 which had Challenge Mode, the attitude was less like "You brought a FOmar to Cmode and doomed us from the outset!" than it was "Yeah! We managed to do Cmode with a FOmar! How good are WE?"
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>>8763998

>追加ロビーアクション26
>new dance emote

Whoever wins this is gonna be really popular in the lobby.
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>>8764645
I use gi zonde a lot more than sa zonde. Maybe my level in it is too low, but sa zonde barely stays on the enemy long enough for me to hit it with zonde to get it running. Even then, I could have just spammed gi zonde for similar, if not better damage to an entire group of enemies. As much as I love gi zonde, I couldn't possibly consider spending that many points to reduce its cost when it's the rare case that anything is left alive by the time I start to get low on PP even with no points in PP bolt save. The way I figured, my points were better spent in tech charge advance, which I had already unlocked through charge PP revival anyway.
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>>8764981
lots of people will. It didn't have ultra super rare items in the draw, they have approximately even distribution, just like lots of people drew vintage room and all back hair in FUN scratch
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>>8765046

Well, in the list the difficulty in obtaining it is rated 5 stars.
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>>8764897
Not that guy, but it's because a force is rarely going to get knocked over thanks to the ridiculous amount of invincibility from mirage escape and the first point in the mastery skills gives a 5% increase compared to 1% for the next 3-5 points after that. A single point in the mastery skills is more bang for your buck than just reversal.
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>>8764571
>time attacks
>very hard
>ultra hard
There might even be a 5th difficulty if we're lucky.
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>>8765354
The bottom line is that PSO1 didn't have a lot of elitist min-maxing shit and neither will this game. There is no death penalty, no problem that can't be solved by grinding to a higher level. It's a far cry from an MMO where you have a team of 30 people sitting at level cap and they have to use their skills wisely to avoid losing EXP and gear.

The only reason PSU had elitism while PSO didn't is that your EXP was dependent on the rank you got in the mission, and that's not a problem here.
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>>8764908
>First of all we don't even know if the time attack mission has any reward other

It's the only form of competition right now. Think of it liken to diablo 2's ladder. It's essentially end game content. I hope they differentiate between solo and group play though.
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what will become of enkou's room?
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>>8765486
Not him, but my experience in DCUO directly contradicts what you're saying. DCUO is a piss easy game, way easier than any Phantasy Star game, has no death penalty, and end game content doesn't give experience because you can't do it until max level. Endgame crap gives marks that are turned in for tier gear, so there is nothing lost when you die except time. Despite that, it's still full of those "GET ON MY LEVEL" elitist twats that refuse to play with you unless you have a certain, exact gear setup and a certain exact skill tree build. Some people are just out to ruin shit for everyone else, and somehow, game communities always bow down to the tiny, but incredibly vocal, community of power gamer scum.
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Where can I find the Character Creator and english patch that goes with it?
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>>8765732
>Endgame crap gives marks that are turned in for tier gear,
That's another difference between Phantasy Star and an actual MMO.

PS has no "endgame." Leveling IS the game. All your gear is randomly dropped.
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>>8765486
I can already see in people discussing skill tree, even if all it does is tiny additional numbers. Also mag faggotry.
Just give it time, pso is no different from other multiplayer games.
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Here's an idea how about you just never fucking tell anyone how your skilltree is set or what your mag stats are and they'll never know.
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>>8755053
Are friends lists bound to account or character? In other words, if I delete my character and recreate it, will I still have my friends?

In b4 I have no friends.
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>>8765814
mag faggotry is already here
>lel u put 1 point into tech and not full strike, such a baddie
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So what do you guys think? Crap?

Should I drop a gear or two and get JG and JC? I was thinking I'd be all pro-dodging and shit
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I'm stupid when it comes to timezones. When does the game go back online?

>>8765892
There's a chance that the AC will have resets or purchasable mags
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>>8765892

How would anyone know you have a point in there unless you told them yourself? I think that lone point would bother me more than anyone else.
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I managed to register my credit card, I think, however now I'm being asked for a whole bunch of personal info when I try to make a purchase.

How on earth do I get through this nonsense?
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>>8765892
Exactly.
Then third form and level 100+ appears.
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>>8765864
WHY DONT YOU USE JUST DEFENCE FAGGOT
ALL YOU DO IS JUMP AROUND LIKE A KID
YOU ARE A WASTE OF PARTY SPACE
I SHOULD TAKE FORCE NEXT TIME INSTEAD OF SHITTY HUNTER
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>>8765864
Tried that in another MMO once. Ended up on a blacklist that circulated around the power gamer scum because I didn't have end game gear when I was nowhere near a level where I could do the content that gets me that gear. It's been four years since then, and I can't buy or sell to other players in that game because that power gamer blacklist was pushed on the rest of the community, and they just bent over backwards to do whatever the power gamer scum said.
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>>8765950
The skill shop shows both extra skill builds and skill resets available.
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>yfw everyone has their skills reset after the trees are redone
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>Hey guys, I played the game that came before this for years and I know from experience most people didn't act like this, here's my reasoning about why it didn't happen last time and how those same elements carry over here, also PSO is not an MMO.

>No you're wrong every MMO is the same I played a shitty WoW clone so I know my MMOs, I can just see how the game will look a year from now.

Welp, looks like I'm not getting anywhere.
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>>8766128
my first ranger tree is shit anyway
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>>8766128
See
>>8764023

It's retarded, but keeps the cost down.
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>>8766238
Pso2 is just another shitty tera clone: notarget mmo with no content and boobs everywhere
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>>8766238
How about we just agree not to listen to power gamer dumbasses?

Also, let's make fun of them when they show up. So far the community has been doing a fine job.
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I'm going to try my hardest to convince myself I can still have fun with this game by only spending enough to get 2 additional mags and maybe an extra skill tree (if it adds 1 for all 3 classes at once) but it will be very difficult for me not to be able to trade at all in a PSO game.
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>>8766973
well, while others worry about power gaming elitist bullshit, I am more annoying about people playing AH instead of the game.
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>>8766973
Wait until you have enough items you absolutely need to trade, then buy the ability for a month. Nothing with a monthly charge is necessary for gameplay, so pay up when you feel the need for it.
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>>8766973
>Person payed $50 for a PSO episode 1+2 disc plus $10 per every month they played back in 2002.

>company makes new game.

>"Oh dear I hope I can still get the most out of the game when I only want to spend $20 for the entire time I play it."

I never understand the weird connections people make when it comes to F2P versus subscription game payments.
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>>8767124

But that's exactly the issue I have with the AC options. You can buy monthly MyShop, MyRoom but NOT trading. You have to shell out 1300 yen a month for premium if you want to trade. I'd be ok with it if I could just buy a trading permit every other month or so but having to pay the equivalent of $16 just to unload some rares is bullshit to me especially since I don't give a fuck about MyRoom and other shit tacked onto Premium.
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Best PSO?

PSOv2 PAL version had a free hunters license.
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>>8767263
PSOBB on private server for absolutely free is superior.
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>>8767207

I only played Version 1 for DC. Played Xbox version of Ep1 and 2 and that didn't require a monthly fee as I remember it. F2P only pisses me off when the price racks up for you wanting to enjoy the game to the absolute fullest. Want to conveniently have access to economy? Monthly fee. Want to experiment and play around with skill builds? Pay for resets and additional trees each time. Want to FUCKING TRADE? Monthly fee inflated with stupid shit like MyRoom.
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>>8767263
Fun fact: In Japan, PSOv1 was not only free to play online, but buying the disk came with A YEAR OF FREE DIAL UP.
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>>8767207
you see, its completely fine to preorder 50$ for a five hour long game you havent actually seen yet, but when you are allowed to play for free, with additional 5-10$ extensions, its absolutely unacceptable and hurts your feelings.
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is there any porn of lisa yet
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Is it even possible to charge points with a foreign, i.e. non-Japanese, credit card? Because it's not possible for many games.
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>>8767475
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>>8767515
I successfully did with a visa with euros on it. Its not japanese.
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>>8767523
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>>8767515
I've done it, went fine. We'll see what happens in the morning.
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>>8767475
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it's time like this that make me wish I knew moonrune.
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>>8768165
>dont know any moonrune
>remember menus
>enjoy the shit out of PSO2

If you can press buttons you can enjoy the game.
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>>8767621
You typed a random jap address for this ?
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>>8768227
Yeah.
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>>8768227
Not him, but I used SEGA HQ's address, and it went through just fine.

I should have 2000 AC points waiting for me when the servers come back up.
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>>8767556
Absolutely. You'll have to pay a small Foreign Transaction Fee on most cards, but it's like 5% of the transaction value. I buy stuff all the time from Japan and as long as you have a valid credit card, no problem.
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>find out the wedding dress has a relatively high chance of being scratched

I hope RNG is gentle tomorrow night... I only bought 1000 points and want to spend 300 of it on a mag, so I'll only have 700 leftover to scratch for the dress...

;_;
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so... will they be accepting paypal after all?
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>>8769056
>japan
>paypal
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>>8769056
No. You can buy Webmoney or Bitcash through Paypal and use that to buy AC though. If you're incapable of doing that, give it a couple of days and people will have guides up for how to do so and reputable sites for buying Webmoney at.
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>>8769238
MY DICK
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>>8769116
>>8769071
Gee, I've never played a japanese online game before, I don't know anything about their obscure payment methods. In fact, I'm used to things going the other way around (helping japanese people get on Eve Online). Anyways thanks for the info, I'll look into that.
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shame multiparties never get repopulated, and lilipa missions glitch out.
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> look at AC scratch rarity
> Rappy suit 0,5 Star
> Cast new head 5 stars
Oh come on Sega, i don't want to see my lobby full of Rappytards.
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>>8769806
>that emergency code event with the giant robots that almost always bugs out
>Sega's faces when. Every time.

God damn, that shit pisses me off.
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>>8769886
I think you might be reading the stars backwards. All of the mag food items and the cards and shit were VERY common scratches in CBT, and they are among the 4/5 star rarity items.

Unless they completely moved around the scratch chance of almost every item, I think the higher star items = higher scratch chance.
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>>8766238
Rest assured, I've been playing the Phantasy Star series for years, and have always, always played this game with absolutely no concern for the levels, gear, etc., etc. that any party members have beyond "Holy shit man, your gear is cool as fuck".

PSO gives you a very introverted way to play. PSO2, from what the beta has offered, appears to only amplify that. Besides this, the absolute chaos of the battles makes it near impossible to tell if someone is royally fucking up unless they keep dying. That's the only thing that makes you stand out in PSO.

Talking about skill trees and all the little fixin's can be fun for those who like to micromanage, and no matter what game you play there are people who enjoy stat maxing, and of course people who bitch when something doesn't go right and you're in their party. But it's constructed in a way that makes these tree changes invisibly negligible to others, and only really important to you if you're isolated.

Anyway, I'll stop rambling about what I think and just tell you that I think you're absolutely right. PSO2 may focus on groups and have this seemingly huge and sophisticated map of damage outputs and gear-related power deliberations, but it actually rewards players and groups by focusing them in on what they're doing and what they want individually. You can grind the whole game by yourself, nobody else required, but it's always fun when a few bros show up and you can slap the shit out of some Rappies together.
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>>8769238
I find it funny i use your bot more than i see you in game.

Also, i have no idea how you beat me to 30 when all i ever see you do is dance in the main lobby?
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>>8764190
>Blue eyes.
Lisa has a darker infection and that is why she is batshit. The story will eventually lead you to removing said infection from her, turning her into a deredere cast. You heard it here first folks.
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It's a shame that my Stellar Twinkle might become obsolete sooner than I thought.

I absolutely love the look of it, so I'll probably be stubborn and hold onto it for a while until I find something that's of a significant improvement.
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>>8770270
Its a costume concept art.
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>>8770305

why not just keep it in your 200 space storage? at the end of the day I'm pretty sure you're not going to have 200 items that you need that are always stuck in the storage.

I've kept all my rares and I'll continue to keep them until I get bored of them or I run out of space and can't afford to keep them
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So, time for another terrible build for a DPS Partisans. This is supposing trees don't change and we don't get a reset on release. For reference, the only reason I have 4 points in JA 2 is because I was going for Fury Critical before I realised how bad it was.
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>>8770331
>butt hats
fuck
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>>8770447
and thus, Sega lived through another day.
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>>8770372
Of course I'll keep it. I'm not just gonna toss it when I outlive its usefulness.

I was speaking more in the sense of it no longer being of use to me in the practical sense of benefiting my character. Being someone who is obsessed with min/maxing sucks because I can't wear things just because they look cool, even if not the most ideal item I could be using.
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>>8770447
Do you even lift?
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>>8765617
all those potted plants lost forever left alone to fester and mutate

and then he opens it after finally getting premium and steps inside and EMERGENCY CODE: AVOID
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>>8770447
mother of god
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>>8770487
Nice shop

You messed up on the 2nd and 7th lines

>>8770447
Wow...
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>>8770487
>150000
>thinking that's somehow better then 999999

you need to do better math
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>>8770447
WHY

>>8770487
shop, i can tell by the pixels
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>>8770447
oh god what

did you really just spend $15k on pso2
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>tfw i cant even afford ONE AC
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>>8770447
All dat AC, all dem AC Scratches, all dem hamboigahs
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So how long until SuToCorp send me my webmoney code?

it's been over an hour now!
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>>8770447

be the dark knight everyone needs you to be...buy premium, spend scratch on tons of costumes, recycle some copies for color tickets, and give costumes to your fellow bros

oh and get yourself a bitching MYROOM with mirrions of expansions that makes you the most popular guy out there
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>>8769116
I don't think you can get Webmoney through Paypal, at least not on the official Japanese Webmoney site.
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>>8765990
this, do people actually input fake japanese credentials in order to purchase ac or is there some other way around it?
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>>8772852
all i had to do was put my name and (sega's) address then my CC info
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I can imagine quite a few, not all of course, fucked up their mags pretty well, so does the cash shop offer an option to reboot it or do you have to start over on a new one which I still don't really know how to get.
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>>8773058
There are resets as well as additional mag tickets
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So with the market now being pay2sell only, what happens if you're a freescum and had stuff for sale when the servers went down?

Still remains for sale, you just can't add more?
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>>8773058
you can buy a mag reset for 500 AC points, but you can also buy a second mag for 300 AC points.

Don't ask why it's the other way around because nobody knows.
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>yfw that 1000 AC you blew on scratch only got you shitty strengthening items
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>>8773175
it goes into your storage automatically
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>>8773182
Obviously I meant

>why it's NOT the other way around*

Sorry, it's 6 AM
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Why would anyone pay extra to reset a mag or skill tree when you can get an additional one.
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>>8773236
For the level probably
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>>8773182
>>8773236
Is the reset MAG specific or can you do your entire MAG army?
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>>8773236
There are some people who are too OCD and/or autistic to put up with the mag clutter that'd come consequence of buying an extra one in place of resetting the one you fucked up on.

>Not doing research beforehand so you know how mag feeding words, and don't accidentally fuck up your mag

People are retarded sometimes
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>>8773220
What if your storage is full? Inventory is also full.
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>>8773324
Your items are destroyed.
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>>8773182
Yea that sounds pretty retareded by sega, one can only assume there is some limit or else its cheaper to fail at mags then to reset them.
>>8773084
>>8773182
Thanks for the info though, both of you, might have have to open my wallet for this one, just have to defeat the last boss of the internet .. moonrunes.
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>>8773324

It goes into it's own type of storage box which doesn't expire.
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>>8773302
>actually giving a fuck what your mag evolves into

those are the real retards.

>>8773324
Most likely they temporarily put it in the AC storage until you remove it
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>>8773279

You receive an item, which you then feed to your mag, causing it to have all of its stats reset to as it was when you first got it.

In other worse, 1 mag per reset
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Buying 90 day shop ticket 5 mill pst!
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>>8773408
>5 mil

...yeah, right. That'll be the 30 day price. Rappy Suits when for 5 mil in cbt until people started buying them. In this case, the price won't drop. Try 30 mil
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>>8773364
Well it's much less caring what it evolves into as much as it is the actual stats on the mag, or the photon blast(s) it gets.

The best of the end-game loot required having a 100% pure mag, as well as having allocated skill points to the passive skills that give those stats, so the min/maxers would be all over that shit if they are stupid enough to mess up their precious mag

Then again, the people who actually CARE About min/maxing most likely did research beforehand anyway, and wouldn't fuck up their mag in the first place
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1500 AC.. can't wait to get all dos synthesizers
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>>8773302

Until we know what the level 40 weapons are, and what the requirements are to use them, expect to see a lot of more people fucking up their mag.

I wouldn't be surprised Sega going into troll mode and making people who placed in a few ability get shafted of the best available weapons.
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>>8773364
So far Im more concerned about how to get a specific photon burst rather than its form or stats. I keep getting stuff I dont want, and its not possible to predict at all.
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How long until this goes back up. My hands are shaking here,
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>>8773481

No one had more than a mill in cbt. That and no one fucking bought rappy suits when they were basically handed out.
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>>8773654

18 hours
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>>8773587
That's why I'm doing this

>Level my starter mag as 66/33
>Quick, easy method of leveling my mag so I have something to use while leveling
>Buy second mag with AC
>Level it 100% pure so I will be able to equip that 1 staff that requires a fuckmillion T-ATK, and you can only equip it with a pure mag.

300 AC and half a brain is all it takes to remove all of your mag troubles. Maybe more if you are into the whole multi-class thing, but I don't plan on leveling other classes anytime soon.
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Hey guys. I've seen a lot of jap beta screens. PSO is a part of my childhood as I am sure it is the same for all of you. Is july 4th the engrish release or japanese release?
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will there be changes after release? like buffing the rifle because everybody seems to want to go luncher
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>>8773726

yfw best staff requires 500 ability
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>>8773750
I'm expecting mapping changes at least, because in videos naberius jungles had new patterns. Maybe they will bring codes and monsters from alpha version.
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>>8773756

SEEEEEEGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I've only seen the Talis require ability to equip, so I hope I'll be fine
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>>8773735
Sega is scrambling offices from all over the world, so I doubt they will ever give a fuck about non-japanese release. I can understand them.
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>>8773789

I've only seen rare Talises, rather, require ability.
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>>8773756

I probably wouldn't ever equip a rare staff anyway, assuming Sega actually makes one. Unless the T-ATK it has is enough to offset the amount you lose in using a pure mag, there'd be almost no point in using it.
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>>8773903

wouldn't ever equip an ability staff*

Holy fuck, I need to go to sleep. Typos and shit fucking everywhere.
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Well that went smooth. Now to see if I get my AC tomorrow.
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>>8773995
Did you use the fake address? Or did you use one of the third-party sites?
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>>8774201

The sega address everyone's been using. Hope I don't get banned for it. I just want to give them my money. ;_;
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>>8774236
Probably not banned, but I don't see how your credit card company would accept the charges. I mean it's not like it looks suspicious or anything, but suddenly getting charges from japan might set off a few alarms.
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>>8774325
Nothing a call to your bank normally can't fix. I know I had my account locked when buying a figma because the charge came from Japan, but got it resolved in a matter of minutes with a quick phone call.
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Anyone else have to play through a VPN? I know most people don't, but I cannot get into the game without my Japanese VPN, I don't mind I guess but I'm paying for the VPN just for this game, luckily the game is free but now it's not =\ maybe an ISP thing?
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>>8774937
I don't know of anybody other than you who is playing this game through a VPN. SEGA isn't locking out gaijin IP addresses yet
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>>8774937
The game is free, always has been free and always will be free.

You're the first I've heard of needing a VPN to play.
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>>8774937

its probably because you live in canada
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>>8774979
Then wtf, at first I was having trouble patching just timing out right away, so I got the VPN and it patched first try, and I can play fine, then took off the VPN to see if It was just the patch, Nope. But it seems like for whatever reason the game is more accepting to my connection through VPN, it didn't seem like it was locking out my ip at all it just seemed like my connection was so slow it was timing out during patch, but through VPN it doesn't, makes no sense to me.
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To the guys who are chilling to use Sega of Japan address : Most of jpPSU players used the same trick to play the game so cool down.
Just bought 2000AC for now, not sure i'm gonna be premium every month still, it's can become really expensive. If they can give some free AC scratch with premium it would be more interesting.
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>mfw I learned what fury critical does after putting a point into it

It's only a point but I still feel so cheated that I might get a new skill tree, though I'll wait until I'm sure I won't need to skill it anyway to get points in newly released skills that I want.
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>>8775232
Don't forget to put outfits on AH for a million meseta each.
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The storage tickets are monthly too, right? Think I'll just stick with shop ticket alone and hopefully strike rich with my luck.
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Wish they buff rifles
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>>8776904
Rifles are fun in their own right but I agree they could use a bit of a buff.
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>>8776949
>>8776904

What buff? Weak hit advance 1 and 2 combined with weak bullet is already overkill.
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>>8776904
They don't need a buff.

Weak Hit Advance + Weak Bullet + Shotgun + Full Auto Spam = bullet hell
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>>8776904
>>8776949
What is weak bullet?
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>>8777352
A weak bullet, rifles are so good they have an ability to make them worse so people don't complain that they are imba.
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>>8777317
>>8777248

But weak bullet + divine luncher is better
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>Cooperative game
>People complaining about balance

It's like whining about diablo 2 classes. NECROMANCER OP NERF NERF NERF.
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>>8776904
Wish they buff hunters
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>>8777627
But being rooted in a big fight is a death wish.
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>>8777886
Rifles are also much easier to knockdown lock those flying darkers.

Run up, shotgun and then keep shooting until it needs another shotgun.

Can do the same with that dash in launcher attack but that's much easier to miss.
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>>8777723
>timed mission
>boss is so fat, dps is essential
>support is entirely on damage dealer shoulders
At some point it doesn't matter if its cooperative or not. The only thing that actually important is that everyone could switch from scrub class to a good one.
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>If the information registered is false, your account may be cancelled.

Oh god guys, I'm scared now.
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>>8777723
PSO2 would be pretty cool with a necromancer type of character
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>>8777739
>Be Ranger
>Pew24,pew26,pew28
>See the Hunter attacking the same spot
>BLAM2452,SLAM2619,WHACK2986
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>>8778082
Don't worry, they might refund.
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>>8778153
>Be hunter
>enemy shows up
>before you even start running its getting burned to the ground
>run around and loot
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>>8778082
They'll only do that if using stolen credit cards/charge backs are issued.
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>>8778236
This reminds me, what are loading times based off?

I zone in the same time as my party and most of the time they are a full minimap screen or two away already.

Unless it's HDD based and everyone is using a SSD then I'm not sure how I can be that far behind every time.
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So, since 70% of characters are female, does this mean that male character will be fodder for color change tickets, while females ones = gold mines?
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>>8778764
>outfits*
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>>8778082
You stupid fuck, you left in a censored part of the address, no wonder you got caught. Enjoy your ban, it's well deserved.
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>>8778082
>2012
>not living in saitama
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>>8779657
>Living in Saitama
>Not living in Osaka
> お前らそんな事をしなければええやで~。
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I seriously hope we get an extra character slot or something
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>mfw I did stupid shit just because I thought there was going to be a character wipe
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>>8779792
500 AC each.
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Any idea on how big of a download the Release update will be from open β client?
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>>8780135
Apparently it's already up for download, and it was tiny.
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>>8780070
Then just delete your character and make a new one. It'll be your own personal character wipe.
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>>8767638
>>8767523

i need more
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>>8780230
Speaking of character wipes, is there any way for me to delete my character and make a new one while maintaining the things in my storage?

Or just a way to transfer some things from my account to a new one? Preferably one that doesn't involve spending cash.
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>>8780421
stuff everything into your storage. they stay even if you delete your character
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>>8780421
You can just put your stuff inside your storage and delete your character.
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does this game have any special characteristics that makes it stand out from more mainstream MMOs?
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>>8780831
It's Phantasy Star.
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Dunno if its been said yet but, UPDATE NOW, ITS AVAILABLE
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>>8780858
i've never played phantasy star so i don't know what is stands for, really

it seems a bit interesting
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>>8780831
its a hack and slash rather then a "click on enemy and watch it do its animation", Also its Sci-Fi rather then fantasy, and the only other Sci-Fi MMO on the market that i'm aware of is SWTOR.
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>>8780892
The Stars are Phantasy.
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>magic
>sci-fi
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>>8780831
free to play action hack and slash with loads of customization and group teamwork required

only thing that could make it better is if it werent instanced
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>>8781024
>in space
>fantasy
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>>8781024
Its not magic, its Photon Arts, they manipulate the photons in the air and in their bodies
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>>8781024
its not magic, its technology yo.
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>>8780860
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>>8781024
>magic
>2154
Plebs.
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>>8780831
>>8780952
Yes: the fact that it's not an MMO.
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>>8780831

It's a lobby and instance based game with more action. Think vindictus or DFO but in 3d. There's also this neat thing where other people can enter your games so up to 12 players in one instance
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>>8781137
uh, and why is that?
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>>8780860
Ships are reversed now in order. If you are going to just create a character please try to not mistake the ship you wanted to get on.
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> 10mb patch
My Ragne sense is tingling... This can't be the real patch...
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>>8781268
The files were already in our clients. They simply unlocked it
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>>8781331
Nobody data mined so ? Or i guess no new weaps/armor for now...
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>>8781484
I'm guessing there hasn't been any recent data mining because of the new encryption.
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So the Hisaka Youko voice will only be available through AC Scratch? Why, SEGA?
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>>8782080
Because they know you want it.
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Any idea when servers will be back up?
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>>8782430
they arent comming back up
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>>8782430

In 7 minutes.
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>>8782430
1am eastern
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>>8782430
a couple days from now
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>>8782430
this weekend at 1 am eastern
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>>8782461
>>8782468
>>8782483
>>8782510

So which one is telling the truth?
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>>8782297
Launchers are so much fun, you just kill and kill and kill! <3 <3 <3

LISA SAYS KILL THEM.
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>>8782468
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>>8782542
It's really 1AM EST July 4th.
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>>8782558
>>
>The AC Scratch is separated into two Gachas, the cheaper option contains boost items, costumes, hairstyles and additional voices. The AC Scratch GOLD only contains costumes.
AC Scratch: 200 AC
AC Scratch GOLD: 500 AC

whelp, i know how sega is getting MY money
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>>8782430
Don't worry, they're going to ip block it from now on.
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>>8782558
but lisa uses a rifle...
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>>8782867
I wish.
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>>8782832
So let's say theoretically you did invest in getting costumes and voices and whatnot. Would you continue to play on the JP servers should they announce a NA version? Or would you just hope and pray in vain that those things are added into the NA version?
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Okay, so I clicked that big button at the top, what's it doing?
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>>8782982
patchin
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...wait. cast parts are divided into arm/torso/leg sections, right? do we get them all at once in a scratchcard or do we need to scratch each part individually?
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>>8782941
SEGA have an absolutely terrible history of western servers. I don't know why anyone would want to suffer the same thing again with PSO2.
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>>8783091
i think you already know the answer to that
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>>8783091
no, casts are getting shat on with scratch system, because you need to win thrice the amount of desired items.
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>>8783091
Each part individually. That's why they're the most common item.
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>finally get the game working after days

>try to login

>MOONRUNESMOONRUNES Error no. 242 MOONRUNES

Let me guess, the servers are down?
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>>8782941
i would probably just make an NA alt that uses a different race for the sake of playing with my less-moonspeak inclined friends for the short period the game is up before it inevitably fails like most ventures into the US market SEGA does nowadays. probably won't spend money when i've already got some in JP servers though.
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>>8782982
It's patching. The game is down because they're about to open. Try back at 1 AM Eastern Time/12 AM Central when the game opens. Beware, it will be packed between WHITE PIGGUS and YELLOW MONKEYS being on simultaneously for the open.
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>>8783245
login server is up, ships are in hibernation
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>>8783245
No, they're up. Keep trying bro.
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This game is not for white pigs.
Japanese ONLY.
Please go back to playing Call of Duty.
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>>8783170
>most common item
>premium non-casts will get them and try to sell them right away, flooding the market and killing the value immediately
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>>8783358
No.
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>>8783358
Make me. I'm not even white
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>>8783393
Seeing this I feel happy.
I am not into this "WAIFU KAWAI UGUU~~" shit you weeaboos are so I am pretty much happy with the parts I have.
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GET OUT WHITE DEBIRU.
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>>8782483
deformed as fuck
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>>8783358
This.
Everyone heard the yellow master, close the thread and go back to DFO.
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>>8783729
Into space.
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White Piggu stuff aside, I do think that if you have no knowledge of Japanese, you're going to be constantly begging those of us who do for help when you get to higher levels and can't read the Matterboard.

"HALP VG I CAN'T INTO MOONRUNES HOW I GET QUEST" :(

Most of you can't even figure out how to register for the game without extensive help.
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>>8783729
Ship 4 symbol art
>>8783843
Ship 2 symbol art
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>>8783950
Katakana is so hard to learn
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>>8784023
http://www.realkana.com/katakana/

i spent 2 days learning, i know all the symbols and can read most of the things in pso2
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>>8783950
But Its perfect. There are people that don't know how to play videogames, use computer or type. Are you going to teach all of them as well?
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>>8783950
Most of us aren't weeaboo/autismal enough to learn a new language - an incredibly difficult one at that - Just to play a game.

As long as there are english players, there will be english guides to assist us.
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>>8783729
I want this as symbol art so bad. I already have the American flag with the White Pig on it and GO HOME, and several of the Persona 4 dub ones that are going around.

Is there going to be a way to get more Symbol Chat pages? Buying them or earning them? One is not enough.
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>>8783950
>when you get to higher levels and can't read the Matterboard.

Every Matterboard objective is already translated, and if they add more it won't take long before they're added to the guide.

There's no reason you can't play through this game if you have no knowledge of moon language.
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>>8784103
I'm not the same person, but I wanted to chime in that learning ANY foreign language isn't necessarily weeaboo/autistic. It's a pretty useful skill which can actually be used in Real Life as opposed to just vidya.
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>>8784291
Useful for what? Unless you're going to live in Japan there is no point in spending years to learn their language
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>>8784098
>>8784103
You're all just lazy fucks. It takes a few days tops to learn Hirigana/Katakana, it's like the goddamn ABCs. Once you learn that, you suddenly stop asking really retarded shit like "DURRR I clicked the game and now this blue bar says ダウンロード, wut duz it meen!!"
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>>8784103
And this is why spoonfeeding is bad, but nooo they never listen. Gotta be helpful and nice to everyone.

>>8784291
You dont get it. everything outside ones' sphere of interest is weird and funny. Learning ANYTHING you cant immediately put into making profit is autistic.
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>>8784360
If it take you years to just learn kana then you probably have a learning disability. You don't need to know all the kanji in the world to play this game.
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>>8784360
Useful for, I dunno, playing many video games without needing someone to tell you what a simple menu item says?

Seriously, there's more in it for you than you realize.

Also, you're playing PSO2 in Japanese, on a Japanese server. It's too late for you to be feigning a disinterest in being "weeaboo."
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>>8784405
DA-UN-RO-TO!
=download=

people are stupid if they think katakana is hard.
spend about 2 hours here http://www.realkana.com/katakana/
and youll know about half of all of it
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>>8784676
>DA-UN-RO-TO!
>TO
>ド
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>>8784716
"do" fuck didnt see the "
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Wonder how much money it will cost me...
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>>8784676
>UN

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>>8784607
Except I can understand Japanese people fine most of the time through context and the kanjis and the menus through trial and error. If your motivation for learning a foreign language is to pley gaemz lel you won't get very far at all and it will likely just be a waste of time
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>>8785012
the pleb means da u n ro do
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>>8785012
oo-n
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>>8785067
>and it will likely just be a waste of time
just like videogames
lel
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>>8782080
There's a default voice that's similar to her but yeah, in CBT the good one was AC only.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opmijcscrSE
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>>8785067
I learned to play foreign games and succeeded quite fine.

Interestingly, I think I succeeded since I learned to enjoy things rather than make money.
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>>8785067
If you know Kanji already, you've already spent more than enough effort that warrants learning Japanese.

As for how much time you are actually wasting, I am saying that if you have any interesting in playing the game without irritating 90% of everyone else that plays, then learning at least hirigana/katakana is a VERY small investment that will pay off and save everyone some trouble. What I'm saying is, it's not a huge commitment on your part to learn this shit, particularly if you plan to play this game for a long time, in which case you'd probably learn some of it just by wading through the menus.

For my part, I have people I need to communicate with in Japanese, and the skill carries over nicely.

So stop being a little bitch already and learn this shit. It's BUTT-PICKING-RETARDEDLY EASY.
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>>8784676
Learned hiragana and katakana in about a week, reading and stroke orders to write them propery, it shouldn't take more than a couple days to learn just to read them, they're extremely simple, and what people don't understand is once you learn your first few characters, and you kind of get a feel for the rules, learning more and more gets easier and easier, and another mistake they make is they confuse Hiragana and Katakana for Kanji, no you won't have to learn 2k symbols.
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>>8785292
>implying japanese didn't steal from the chinese
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>>8782686
>gokigen'you
>ご機嫌よう
>機嫌, kigen(humour, disposition).
>機嫌 is composed of two kanji. 機, meaning machine, mechanism. 嫌, meaning hate.
>machine hate.

Oh Lisa. You clever mass murderer, you.
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I get everything on the AC scratch here
http://pso2.jp/players/catalog/scratch/costume/

But look at the bottom right, don't we already have that? why is it there? is there something different about it?
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>>8785494
How is that implied ANYWHERE? you illiterate troll.
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>>8785548
Colors
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>>8785581
You're the one trolling me here
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>>8785659
>implying I'm not a third person that just read both posts and decided you're a fagot.

lrn2 differentiation motherfucker.
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>>8785716
How is that implied anywhere?
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>>8785586
b-but... its a male cast... their parts are not split into a handful of colors like other races, we can pick any color out of the giant pallet like picking the eye color is for other races.
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>>8785772
hn.... mn..... fn..... YOUR MOTHER!
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>>8785843
>YOUR
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>>8785880
>MOTHER
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>>8785548
>Ballistic Coat
Do want.
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The caseal high heel legs look like horse legs
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is this okay?
or more step advance points are useless?
i'm going full sword with little/medium partisan use

and are gunblades usefull as hunter?

captcha: avows exusess
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It's 12:16 central... Servers up yet?
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>>8785548
This is the "Crystal version" of parts. It's like a shiny paint version.
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>>8786181
Apparently some of Gunslash's PA are good, but there's no Gunslash Gear yet, so I'm not too sure. I wouldn't pump that many points in S-ATK Up. Step Advance is okay I guess, if you don't plan on using Fury Stance.
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>>8786303
1AM eastern 4th july, so SHUT THE FUCK UP NO, god damnit.
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>>8786460
>no Gunslash Gear yet
I dont think there will be, since its an universal weapon. Im more concerned about additional weapon types, since current skill tree heavily implies there will be none.
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>>8786181
If you're going Sword you should get Just Guard and Just Counter. JA Bonus 1 doesn't boost Photon Art damage, so it's debatable how worthy those 10 JA Bonus points are (though Sword standard attacks are pretty damn good, too). Partisan Gear is meh (range increase only), so your call if you really need it. You can use Partisans just fine without it unlike Swords without Sword Gear where it's basically a necessity.
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>>8785548
it's a recolor; your paint scheme will show up differently on those parts
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>>8786596
I'm fairly certain they'll both expand upon and add new skills to the skill trees for all classes. Hunter will be missing future weapons, Force is missing elements (Light, Wind and Dark spells are coming in future) and Ranger will.. well, who the fuck knows what they'll get. Maybe new traps that don't blow or more status effect shots (though pointless since you can just make rifles with all the good effects).
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I dont understand this armor. At all. Its like... the anti-armor.

Why male outfits in this game are mostly terrible?
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>>8786853
because the only males worth playing are cast?
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>>8786839
Well, thats what I thought during alpha, when there were no cards, partisans and rocket launchers, and not a single little hint that would lead to them. Autogun did all the stuff other firearms do with PA, and it looked pointless to add other ranger weapons. But it went better than expected, so I still have faith they will eventually add more weapons, and fill up the vertical bar in skill tree with subclasses.
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>try and charge AC
>can't

No inventory expansions for me
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>>8786981
Oh, I have no doubt in my mind they'll add Ranger weapons. I just don't know what they'll add to the skill tree. Hunter has skills on the tree for specific passive boosts to weapons which Ranger doesn't get. Their current status effect bullets cover just about every status effect I can think of, so I dunno what they could add for new stuff. Maybe some buffs you can pop (Berserk as a buff you can activate at any time? Sign me the fuck up) or something.
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Servers back up yet?
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>>8787072
maybe some kind of cloaking, more weird stuff about general shooting (rebound, better lock on), setting up engineering devices like turrets, calling those dropships et cetera.

So far its looks bland, because people either shotgun things or rocket launch them. I rarely see people placing mines.
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>>8787235
Yeah, playing right now. Boy am I having fun.
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>>8787267
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>>8787238
Turrets would be pretty awesome. The reason nobody uses traps is because SEGA made them absolutely garbage. I was excited to get them in CB and they were completely useless, why they didn't buff them in OB I don't know. I really hope they make them more viable in the future because right now there's basically 1 single build worth doing on Ranger.
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>>8787238
Those are fairly far down the skill tree and they suck so its no wonder no one uses them over shotgun and full auto spam with the occasional grenade launcher.
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>>8787238
well the current traps kind of suck and there isn't much motivation to use them as the only things worth bothering with a trap set-up on are bosses and they're mostly immune to the effects
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>>8787394
>>8787418
>>8787425
I recall it was possible to poison ragne pretty bad with one of the traps in cbt, and it did like 1000 damage or so. Might be mistaken though, as I was only watching.

Now darkers are pretty much immune to poison, so yeah.
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>>8786460
>>8786712

first thanks for the imput
JG is not so my case i'm more for the dashes and yea i'm don't plan to skill FS either
Partisan gear is only for the range? thats not so good..
maybe 2 less points in S-atk up and for this maxing out SA?
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>>8787526
poison worked on all the bosses back then and did a ridiculous amount

then it got nerfed for all the bosses except the slinky twins
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Guys, where I can find the PA names translated to english?
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>>8787526
Either way, the only thing poison is useful against is catadran and fighting it is already easy to begin with. It may become a bit more difficult in higher difficulties but even then there's no reason to waste the skill points on traps when you could just use a weapon with poison on it.
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>>8786712
I used to be all about Partisan gear, since the PAs are lots of fun, like Trick Rave. It's too bad the damage on Partisan is comparatively low. They really ought to buff Partisan gear.
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>>8787670
http://pastebin.com/juhdK9HU
from closed beta, I know it's missing quite a few PAs
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what does this mean..? incorrect password?
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>>8788058
I would say after some consideration that it says something about the pleasure of being cummed inside.
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>>8788058
your foreign ID is banned
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>>8787650
Yeah, these are the gear boosts
Wire Lance: Damage boost based on how many bars you have, no other changes.
Partisan: Range increase to all skills, projectile is much wider too. No damage boost to any.
Sword: Crazy charge speed increase (makes the charge PAs go from ass to great), number of hits on Sonic Rain increases (damage boost is either nonexistent or minor, but it's amazing for keeping the meter maxed out for the duration of the entire boss fight) and the range on Twister Fall and Stun Concerto increases.
Basically, Sword Gear is an amazing boost, Wire Lance Gear is a nice boost and Partisan is very situationally useful. There's absolutely no reason you can't use a Partisan without the Gear skill for it, whereas with Sword the jump with and without it is so big you'd be a fool not to grab it if you intend to use Swords.
>>8787832
Oh yeah, don't take what I say the wrong way. I'm not writing off Partisan at all and I make use of them myself, it's just the Gear skill for it is completely unnecessary. Wastes time to charge and doesn't benefit your damage in most situations. You can use the skill points elsewhere.
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>>8788058
> First 2 sentences of the OP
> Can't read
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>>8788058
>ID no omanko no shiawase wa tte masu
Probably it says how it checks your ID right now.
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>>8788159
wlance has damage and range boosts
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>>8787661
> the slinky twins
I like this better than CaterDragons.
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>>8788128
Y-you're kidding, right?
>>8788205
So servers are down? What does that have to do with my ID...
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>>8788238
Which PAs get a range boost? Never noticed it but I mostly abuse Heavenly Fall. The description for Wire Lance Gear only mentions a boost in power.
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>>8788360
All of the long range ones. So all of them besides Fall and I think the kick
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I'm thinking about making a "support" force, can anyone give me tips?
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>>8788417
Neat, I'll keep that in mind and mess with em a little more once servers are back up.
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>>8788432
how its supposed to work? You dont need to sacrifice anything to make use of restoration skills.
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>>8788341
Server are down + your id/pw are stuck in identification process = You can't connect to the servers because servers are in maintenance
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>>8788532
I know, I won't try to be a "full support", so what I'm asking is basically how to play a force.
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u gonna get rappy
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>>8788683
I miss my Rappy Costume. Ranger was 100x more fun as a giant Rappy. Dem Rodeo Rides.
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>>8788306
>slinky twins
>CaterDragons

>not Caterpie
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>>8788159
I'll have to do some tests once the servers are back up. Just to see what the respective ranges are with different levels of Gear meter.

In a way, this sort of frees me up on certain enemies, because this means I can use PAs on flying enemies without worrying that I'm losing damage.
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>>8788683
>Shazbot
Alright, show me your stash of money sir.
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>>8788601
oh, thanks. I am so excited to play this..
My id/pw should be out of the identification process by the time servers are back up, right?
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>>8788683
>>8788737

>rodeo driving in a rappy costume on a rappy cannon

I gotta get me one of them as soon as they're available.
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> Going premium only for My Room and 2x Fun points for more furniture.
Selling ? Why the fuck i want to sell my bathtube ?
Trading ? Just dump your stuff in my room ! Gahahaha !
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>>8788663
Well, since healing is either projectile or aura, you could use cards to aim at distant players and heal from a stationary card. But I suspect its going to be very hard. You will also need antidote, which I could only find on Lilipa, it has bigger rarity for some reason.
You also pick light arts to confuse enemies while you arent healing. But certain statuses only work on certain kinds of enemies.

There is also a bunch of stat boosting arts too.

The problem for me was that in a big parts enemy is basically gets steamrolled, so you dont get much time to be helpful by any other way than throwing a charge fireball in the crowd.
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>>8788838
Its just a short informational state, like "loading...", dont think about it too much
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>>8789002
I see... will think this over then... will keep what you said in mind.
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>>8788663
The only way to really play "support" is by keeping yout technics up to date. Highest level possible and be sure to pump your T-ATK stat so you can get them as quickly as possible.
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>>8789114

That's basically what I'm aiming for, T-ATP up 1 and 2 on max and charge PP revival
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11 hours.

I am hype.
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>>8789184
T-ATK
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I only hope that Forces in this game are not underpowered like in psp2
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>>8789234
>that feel when I will wake up a bunch of hours after the servers will begin getting raped worldwide.

>>8789371
I found FO to be easy mode in pso2, you have superb dodge, versatile and powerful attacks, status attacks, and dont need to get close.
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>>8789476
I maxed out ranger first and then decided to give the other classes a chance. Hunter felt useless at lower levels so I changed up to Force and had quite a bit of fun with it. Of course I had already had all the techs unlocked.

When I went back to playing Ranger to help some teammates level I died a few times because I forgot how shitty everyone else's dodges are.
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>>8788341
Foreigners are IP banned to allow a smooth transition for Grorious Nippon.

They had to do it to keep the BRs out.
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They better make another burning rangers-like mission with that theme song.
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>>8789371
Forces are very similar to their PSP2 counterparts, just the ridiculously overpowered, "everything fucking dies because I commanded it" forces from PSP2's Infinity expansion. If they add foverse to PSO2 and keep it functioning the way it did in Infinity, unlike poor sa zonde, I'll be happier than a pig in shit.
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>>8789847
Americans aren't banned, its only Europeans. Asians don't like yuros because they have a history or being rude cunts and shitting up everything.
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>>8790284
I didn't play infinity because of the language... Is it good if I've already finished psp2?
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>>8790390
I would say yes. In fact, since you already beat the first one, you don't have to waste your time with a low level character and can take your already high level character into the episode 2 content.
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>>8785536
NO ORGANICS ALLOWED
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>>8790284
I always wanted to play infinity mostly for Nagisa. Is it worthy?
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>>8790665
but even if I have a US version save, can I import it into infinity?
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>>8790718
Even if Nagisa is your only reason to play, it's a good one. She's voiced by Nana Mizuki. That alone is worth it.
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>Servers up in 10 hours
>Downloaded remembering hiragana, katakana and kanji
I shall be ready by the time the servers come up.
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>>8790791
No, but you're on 4chan, so there's a 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999% probability you have a hacked PSP. There's some application or whatnot that converts US saves to JP, but I have no idea what it is or how to do it since my PSP isn't hacked.
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>>8790893
Will search for it.
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>translate client
>open a couple of ships intended for international players
there you go...
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you probably saw this shit a billion times already, and everyone got a mail with but anyway
http://pso2.jp/players/update/20120704/
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>>8788432
No such thing. Force does EVERYTHING.
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wait, did they actually ban foreign IPs or are the servers down?
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>>8791428
They banned all foreign IPs. Sorry bro.
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So I've got a pretty bad ass cowboy motif going on with my new Ranger, and I like being him. However, I fear running around things and shooting them with my rifle will get old very quickly.

I can't think of a cool theme for a Hunter either.
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God dammit I want that fucking wedding dress, thoughts on it's price in the AH as soon as it goes live?
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>>8791336
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>>8791428
all gaijin ip's are banned
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>>8791589
One Million Meseta
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>>8791736
;_; I only have 200k
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>>8791589
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>>8791336
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>>8791345
Everything besides take a hit.
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>>8791589
>inb4 casts cant wear dress but find it out after spending gorillion dollars.
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Totally not a Rockbear recolor. Still it has new attacks so bonus points for the effort Sega.
Also Time attack's reward seems to be a Trophy to put in your room.
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>>8792017
>Get grabbed by Antlion
>Ask for revive before animation even finishes
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>>8792232
There are also fuangarufurus. Its still happening on naberius, so its kinda justified.
Whats bugging me is the chapter structure, 2 is in ice location, 3 is on lilipa and only 4 is in volcano. Does that mean level requirement will be reshuffled, and current 30s will be fucked over and forced to replay lowlevel ice, then grind lvl30+ volcano?
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>>8792236
>antlion grab
>oh its okay, I totally have more health
>get hit by tentacles through the 15 second animation and die before even getting thrown on the ground.
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>>8792017
I see what you're driving at, but FO takes hits like a champ as long as it isn't a one-shot. Resta is too good.

FO can't out-DPS the other classes vs. bosses, but it's not hugely behind them either. I won't say it's the best class since that's subjective ("the best class has to have the best DEEPS, hurr"), but it's certainly the most versatile and forgiving.
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>>8786181
>maxing fury
>not maxing fury crit for that glorious +20% chance to crit
Gunslashses are pretty good, regardless of what others might say. On my hunter I can keep aggro indefinitely on vol and catty, and with Serpent air you can hit ragne's weak point while he is standing very easily.
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>>8792523
Crits are not classic crits.
Crits are just hitting the top of your damage range. Having a lot of ability is the same as having a high crit rate. infact it's better
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>>8792571
They're different.
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>>8792457
I think it's gonna be 20-40 level range. 2nd Matter board end at return to Forest (Normal, but doable at hard)
Also, it seems that Story quest scale with your level. I have done the first one with lvl 5 enemies and done the second route later with lvl 15 enemies. Not sure about it.
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It's really funny when players think the flat stat boosting skills in the skill trees are useless.

50 extra points in a stat? HOW USELESS
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>>8792668
It's as he said. Crits literally hit your top end damage range. If you don't have a very high damage range, crits are pretty meh, for 10 points the damage increase from +20% crit rate is poor.
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>>8792508
I have had
>>8792236
>>8792505
Happen while playing with buddies. Those one hitters are only a third to half health hits for other classes.
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>>8792772
Not to mention those passive boosts are literally the only way to raise your "base" stat that lets you equip things outside of your MAG. At 30 cap it was literally impossible to equip top end Hunter weapons or the best Rifle without the passive boost. Even if you had 99 attack on your MAG.
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>>8791524
What are you? Human?
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>>8792772
It becomes useless in the long run, where %'s start to shine.
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>>8792845
That Antlion grab will fuck you up on Hunter too on Hard mode though. I have 2 +10 units (tech def oriented, but still decent s.def) and it still does 400 damage without Deband. Throw in those fucking tentacles hitting you during the animation and there's a good chance it'll kill me unless a Force party member hits me with Deband or they take out the tentacles quickly.
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>ever getting caught by the antlion

Seriously? How? I don't even understand how it's possible. That's like finding a way to get hit by the Dragon's fireball it shoots while it's flying. Dodging those is literally a matter of not standing around like a Turkey caught in the rain.
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hey guys check out my awesome hunter build +^_^+
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>>8792957
Gotta have a nice base for the percentages to work off of don't ya?

Percentages don't net you better gear either.
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>>8792772
The reason people say that is because the game will eventually have the level cap raised (in fact, it's already being raised 10 levels when the server comes back online), and respects cost real money, so everyone is thinking about character viability in the very long term. 50 extra points would account for about 25% of my character's attack stat right now, but what about at level 180? I have a feeling Sega will retool the trees and give out free respecs long before then, but we don't know what Sega will do for sure, and nobody wants to be stuck with +50 in a stat at a level where the +10% to, say, charged techs would pump out more damage.
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>>8793108
What is Melee
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Can't you get out get of the grab by mashing your move buttons? Or is that only with tentacles?
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>>8793195
Except that +50 helps you equip stronger gear
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>>8793108

tbh I always assumed people were getting caught on purpose for the screenshot value of taking it while the antlion throws you in mid air...other then that I don't really get caught by the antlion
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>>8793259
Only earlier, not in the long run
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>>8793212
Rockbear grab you can, tentacles too. I don't think you can for the Antlion grab itself. I've come out of it a couple of times but it's either the other Antlion in the arena doing the suction shit or party members finishing off the tentacles and making him stagger.
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>>8793108
I just love passive agressive stances about certain things being too simple. You can almost feel dirt and feces being gentle smeared in your face
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>>8793207
You would have to actively walk over to its draw range when it pops up, then. You could do something crazy like stay away until he's done inhaling.
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>>8793195
Well they're all idiots. Just goes to show you how smart the general player base is these days.
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>>8793289
>static 50 extra points that will be with you forever
>doesn't help in the long run

needs common sense plz
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>>8793408
>moving goal posts
Go back to reddit
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>>8793408
>10% of my 850 base attack is 85
>85 greater than 50

needs math plz
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You get the flat bonuses first then the percent bonuses as they become more useful.
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>>8793541
>highest level 40 base attack is 378

NICE TRY
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>>8793541
Yes, but 10% of 850+50 = ?
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>>8793776
>Sega will never continue lifting the cap

NICE TRY
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>>8793871
Yea ok have fun waiting for that 10% to kick in 3 years later. Meanwhile, there will be new classes with new skill trees.
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>>8793837
Assuming you have the skill points to spare of course you'd pick both flat boosts and percentage boosts
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>>8794012
>new classes
how new are you
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I don't see that anyone has posted this, but the update from beta to full release is already up for download.
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>>8794012
> Meanwhile, there will be new classes
> there will be new classes
> new classes
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>>8794143
>>8794124
I've been here since the beginning of time.

You can ask Sakai himself about new classes in the future. He's the one that said it.
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>>8794125

Wait a second. Are you trying to cheat me again?
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>>8794124
>>8794143
Hey man, PSP2 had Vanguard. I doubt they'll add any new ones either though. Also +100 S-ATK from the 2 Hunter passives is fucking huge. That's like 17 or 18 level ups worth of base attack added on.
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>>8794124
WE PSU NOW

GUNTECHER
SPARKBLASTER
DARKLIGHTER
BLASTCHEESER
LIMOUSINEDRIVER

NONE OF THEM MEAN ANYTHING
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>>8794124
>>8794143
a lot of speculations about subclasses were going since alpha.
and space allocated to list the classes is way too wide, even if you buy a dozen of additional build sheets.
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>>8794124
japs said so, bro
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WOW this game really IS Jew Star Online 2

from what I can tell in the AC scratch the prices were 500+ AC per scratch..and since 1 AC is 1 yen that means you're paying $5 for 1 scratch....are you fucking kidding me?
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>>8794507
>1% of the game is ac
>the other 99% is easily playable without paying a cent

Stop being a retard.
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>>8794507
BAWWWWWWW! THE PRICES MEANT TO BE FAIR FOR THE JAPANESES ARE EXPENSIVE FOR ME!
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>>8794459
in before exodus of angry hardcore PSO fans.

>>8794507
f2p
gacha
japanese online games
by your powers combined, I am phantasy star online 2
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>>8794507
that seems like a reasonable price for a space lottery ticket
keep in mind that it takes place in the future
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>>8794507
$6.2 for a guaranteed costume is pretty cheap compared to other games with cash shops. All the actual utility stuff is reasonably priced and you don't have to drop $50-$60 on the actual game itself. People bitching about the pricing always seem to ignore that. The only issue I have with the model is no trading without premium, but whatever, the whole point of the game is grinding forever for loot. Might aswell get the drop myself rather than buying it off someone and being done with the game.
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>>8794507
$5 ain't SHIT unless you're underage.
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>>8794507
Cosmetic items... See Team fortress 2. People want them, you can't stop that.
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>>8794507
ignoring that it's only ~$6 converted to gamble on cosmetic items either way, remember that the prices are tuned to be resonable to the japanese economy, which is currently much better off then the US one
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>>8794604
Except that trading and being able to sell your shit to something that isn't an NPC is kind of a big deal. Player rooms, resets, extra build sheets and whatnot, I can deal with, because those are for people who like to dickwave or fuck up all the time, but locking tradign and selling does fucking nothing. Subscriptions and shit won't stop gold farmers. It is just there to jew the everloving shit out of you.
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>>8794901
>Subscriptions and shit won't stop gold farmers.

Maybe not but at least SEGA makes money off of them before they start to fuck up their game.
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>>8794901
>gain tens of thousands of meseta per mission
>get items out the ass
>noooooo i need more

Entitled as fuck.
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>>8794901
>people who like to dickwave or fuck up all the time
Well that also counts in traders, flipping grinders all days etcetera. Every assclown could scam the shit out of you with free trading, but its less likely now.
If they would want to jew, they would introduce 10 piece item sets that would be essential to finish the game, like in dfo.
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>>8794640
>$6.2 for a guaranteed costume
but it's not guaranteed it's $6.2 for a lottery ticket you scratch for a random costume...it's not like the $6.2 is for the rappy costume or something it's for a random costume or hell you might end up with a grinder if anything
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>>8795024
>get rare as fuck weapon for class i'm not going to play
>worth millions in player shops
>worth 2.9k meseta to NPC

I'd be better off throwing it out and then bragging about throwing it out over the chat.
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>>8795132
The Gold Scratch that costs 500 yen is GUARANTEED random costume/part.

200 yen scratch has costumes but you can also get other shit like grinders or boosters.
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>>8795132
The 500 AC scratchcards literally only have costumes in. Yes, you can't pick what you want, but most games use these models and have far worse odds stacked against you. This is very generous by comparison, not that I don't agree that the model itself is kind of sickening.
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>>8795194
>play as all classes
and then everything was ok
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>>8795194
Sell it to a buyer. Only one person needs trade ability to make a trade. But then you'd have to do something crazy like become a productive and contributing member of the game's palyer base.
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why people give so much shit about 5-10$ pseudosubscription you aren't even forced to purchase? Would Sega sell 90 dollar boxes with obligatory 20$ sub, I bet no one would raise a voice.
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>>8795206
>>8795245

okay well that makes more sense now...still a shame that it's goddamn gacha I wouldn't mind paying the 500AC if i could pick what I want...but if it's for a "chance" at getting what I want then I'd rather just pay for premium for a month, farm grinders all day, sell em to make millions of meseta, and then buy the costumes on the AH when people decide to sell em there instead.
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>>8795194
you are now realizing manually that every game is pay to win, because you have to buy it to play, finish and brag to other people about it.
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They are going to add new hybrid classes. They've stated this. We just have no idea how they'll work.
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>>8795307
>Only one person needs trade ability to make a trade

butthatswrongyouretard.jpg

unless they changed it from CBT I needed to get premium to be able to trade with someone else who had trade already
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>>8795128
Scam how? Buying underpriced shit and selling it for a profit like what will happen regardless of trading and selling subscription fees? I mean, it's not like the item and its abilities are hidden or anything. Also, jewing isn't necessarily making the game p2w, its selling pieces of the game that are already in there for profit, a la Capcom, or Activision.
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>>8795515
>mage hunter phases around and cast enhance attacks with element, but cant block
>hunter ranger bashes enemies with rocket launcher
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>>8795515
I don't care. I just want the ability to cast Resta as a Hunter again. Is that so much to ask?
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>>8795783
>using PP for heals instead of combos

WHAT KIND OF HUNTER ARE YOU
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So who else is staying up for launch tonight?
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>>8795646
No I mean literal scam with personal trade.
Not really a serious issue maybe, but they made etiquette/security guide about that.
I don't really understand it as well, but I can't see a huge problem either.
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>>8795515

all I want is a class that uses Talis as a weapon and can summon monsters....come on I can't be the only one that thought this when I saw the ygo duel disk talis weapon
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>>8795846
A mage hunter!
Healing bullet! Medkits! Snare traps!
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>>8795882
>summon explosive or spiked monsters
>catch them with talis and throw into enemies.
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>>8795857
It opens at 10:00pm for me so I'm naturally awake. But yes I will be playing like hell afterwards.
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>>8795338
>5-10$


It's closer to $20 with conversation rates
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>>8796008
Ship 4 block 44? I'm on the east coast so it's 1 for me but I'll see you there.

Also any word on if double sabers are in this game?
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Open at 7am for me... Guess i will join 1-2h later to sleep a little more.
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>>8796192
not at release obviously.
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For anyone who bought the 5000AC package, can you tell me how much it was after conversion rates?
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>>8795857
when is it opening?
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Comes alive at midnight precisely locally for me.
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>>8796192
Not for now. They will release more on future contents.
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>>8796278
$63 usd
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>>8796278
Well, 1300 yen is about 16-17 dollars, I remember correctly. Do the math.
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>>8796349
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=PSO2+Official+Release&iso=20120704T14&a
mp;p1=248
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>>8796367
oh same
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>>8796535
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20120704T14&p0=538&msg=PSO2+Official+Releas
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>>8796535
wait what the fu--
>>8796640
okay, god dammit, don't scare me like that
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>>8768385
The kanji says "degree of difficulty" so it might be the other way around.
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this game would be a lot more interesting if the people playing were not so afraid of joining people's parties.
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>>8797409
B-but they might not appreciate my company!
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>>8797409
What ship? Never really had this issue on Ship 2 aside from when I first hit 30, since I nolifed it not many other English people were high enough to join the Free missions. Even had a handful of Japs join and talk in broken English. There's a pretty ridiculous number of solo only, passworded lobbies though.
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>>8797409
>Browse some hard mode quest's party list
>fucking none
Wat do
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>>8797409
I join parties all the time so long as I can
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>>8797596
Get friends.
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>mfw 4 hours later and it's still patching
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>>8797409
I avoid people and avoid talking to them. remote presence in multiparties is the most convenient way to play. I don't really know why do I keep playing online games, seriously.
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Player trading IS an essential part of the game.

Free2play arguments break down when a core part is behind a paywall.

Enjoy trying to grind up that weapon. Assuming you did a quest and ended up with some great merchant weapons, you might even be able to pay for 1 grinder.

Also, what is the 'C' currency? Grinders were being sold for 10-20 of that in the store on the lower levels of the shopping district (next to the room store).
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>>8797629
Do they sell them at convenience store now? Guess not, faggot.
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>>8797596
>>8797273
Go to block one. Play with nihojins.
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>>8797708
>Do they sell them at convenience store now?


If you have enough money
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>>8797707
>Player trading IS an essential part of the game.
grinder flipper detected. Go fuck yourself with a sword.
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>>8797738
meant for
>>8797409
>>8797596
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>>8797707
>all of my weapons and units are fully ground naturally to +10 using grinders I got off of missions

Maybe you should learn how to not suck at the game, first.
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>>8797816
Try grinding rares and not 3or4 star weapons.
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>>8797707
you get points for playing at lan cafes. JP onry of course
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>>8797870
Why would I grind a rare when the non-rare I have equipped is better?
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>>8797870
why would you grind rares if 2star weapon is more powerful. Or, rather, how are you going to suck with a rare that is better than any 2star weapon? Just admit you are grinding for the sake of grinding.
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>>8797816
>Fail a 24% combine 15 times in a row
>+10 combine on a 9 star item is only 26%
>It also costs roughly the same amount (20k)
>If you fuck it up though you go back 1-3 spaces
I'm never going to try grinding.
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>>8797947
Rares upgrade better than non-rares

1-3 stars get a 150% boost
4-6 stars get 160% boost
7-9 stars get 175% boost
10+ stars we don't know yet
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So when's the NA or INT beta test? Sorry for being lazy scum.
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>>8797870
>I suck so much cock I can't kill shit without grinding

Nigga, I got my HU AND RA to the level cap, and all I used was the goddamn 2 star weapon drops from the shit you kill. I did fucking fine. Why don't you just learn how to play the fucking game.
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>>8798010
Which doesn't matter if the non-rare still has better attack at the end.
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>>8798010
additional 25% is not even worth to break yourself so much
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>>8798037
Unfortunately, there is a chance of never, considering how little of shit sega gives.
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>game goes down
>/vg/ starts tearing itself apart

Every time.
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>>8797947
>>8798080
Having higher attack to start doesn't mean it will have higher attack to finish.

The tier 7 star wlances have 316 or something at +10.

Only a 5 star weapon can be better than the 7 and 8 star weapons at +10, and it will still not be as good as a 9 star weapon.
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>>8798184
Er the Tier two 7* wlances.
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>>8797773
I only discovered grinders later into the game (I grinded a shitty low level weapon 2-3 levels so I could sell it for more than 1000m. Managed to sell it for 2-3k, turns out the grinders cost about 15k).

I first started my jew ways after finding out where the player market was and trying to buy ranger force art.

Made a decent sum off flipping those, but that doesn't really compare to the grinder market.

Was also too lazy to research other classes' force arts to find the pricey ones. Managed a tidy 145k profit on a Hunter one a day or so before close.
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I feel that you don't necessarily need to go straight to +10 on some 7-9 star weapons, seeing as the risk usually isnt worth the cost. Sometimes you don't really need anymore than +7 which I find isn't that hard to attain.

That's just me though, I've been able to be effective enough with that as opposed to other people.
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>>8798130
So no news about bringing the game over? That's sad, still since shit-tier companies bring just about any MMO Korea shits out they'll bring this game eventually.
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>>8798182
I know right?
At least its game related this time.
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>>8797409
More people could also talk in game.
"Hey, anyone up for doing ____?"
Instead of assuming people will join their game.
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>>8798345
well, people are more willing to play some chinese wow rip off low quality shit, rather than a good game they never heard about.
that crappy monster hunter copycat was more successful and got more news articles than monster hunter online itself.
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The worst part about AC scratch costumes is that all those people who roll for costumes will recycle the costumes for Color Change items instead of putting the excess costumes for sale on the shops.

So anyone who thought they'd be getting a cheap excess costumes, even shitty male costumes, you are mistaken.
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>one day when there's an end-game
>6★ uncommon will have 600 base attack and cost you 50,000 to make with good chances
>10★ rares will have 612 base attack and cost you 10,000,000 to make with bad chances

NO, I NEED TO MINMAX
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>>8798290
People only use high stared weapons because they are 'the best'. If they were happy with mediocrity they'd use a lower star weapon that could also be traded when you've finished with it.
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>>8798453
Don't be silly. Those costumes will be worth a fortune, they'll do 1 or 2 for color change tickets and sell the rest.
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>>8798419
I ask around for stuff I'm planning to do often enough but still don't get anyone sometimes. Probably because of being behind the leveling pace of most of the players.
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>>8798513
Exactly, they'll be worth a FORTUNE.

I am saying they will not be cheap due to huge supply > demand. All excess supply will be dumped into color change items. The rest will be sold for LOTS of meseta. I hope you guys saved up all your monies during OBT.
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>>8798496
You make your 6 star, then start working on your 10 star.
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Do you guys think I'll be able to use my PS3 controller with the keypad attached on this?
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>>8798513
>>8798683

you guys don't seem to be