>The game will no longer freeze when summoning a demon during battle

How do you even release something like this after a whole year of development?

That cover is so great.
I love that the chaos route is the cannon one.

What exactly did they do in the European version that it fucked up badly?

I mean, it's still in English, right? Did the subtle spelling changes fuck it up? Does the game use British voices instead of American?

I seriously cannot comprehend what sort of alteration could possibly cripple a game.

>>191790450

Supposedly Atlus gave them an incomplete build, but that doesn't explain how it took them a fucking year to release it.

Now Aksys USA needs to fix VLR. Nothing to do with Atlus, but it is a notable glitch for a 3DS game.

>>191789984 (OP)
>The game will no longer freeze when summoning a demon during battle

Were they even trying?

Too bad I can't find a copy anywhere.

With the update would you say this is worth having over Fire Emblem? I can only pick one

>>191790684
I'd be surprised if they managed to fuck up this big without even trying.
I mean, they localize a game more than a year later, claiming they needed the time to fix unexistent bugs, and they somehow manage to add several gamebreaking bugs.
They didn't even translate it to any other european languages.

>>191790591
Not to shift the blame off of them but there had to have been something going on behind the scenes between P4A and DS:O. Doesn't excuse Ghostlight's complete lack of quality assurance though.

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Were the bugs only on the European release?

>>191791009
Overall gameplay: Fire Emblem
Difficulty: DeSu
Story: DeSu
Graphics: Fire Emblem
Music: Fire Emblem

>>191791009

Eh, get Fire Emblem and pirate the DS version of DS.

>>191791159
As a US version owner who just played this game less than an hour ago and coincidentally summoned a demon after another had died, yes, the bugs were only in the European version.

HOW ABOUT YOU RELEASE A FIX FOR NO STORES HAVING THIS GAME

GODDAMNIT ATLUS PLEASE LET ME GIVE YOU MY MONEY

>>191791245
>>Difficulty: DeSu
>>Story: DeSu

Looks like its Desu

>>191791245
Never played Fire Emblem before, but I had no idea Devil Survivor was harder. I'm playing it right now and I'm only mildly frustrated at best.

Also, doesn't Fire Emblem have permadeath? If a party member dies, he's gone for good?

>>191791548

You know it's entirely possible that they stopped selling it because of complaints due to those bugs.

>>191791245
>Music: Fire Emblem
Did they reuse the DS-quality soundtrack in Overclocked? Some of it was really good but the DS just wasn't made for... audio in general.

>>191791548
Did they really print so little copies for Europe?

I'm in Canada of all places (our selection is shittier than the US) and I can find the game anywhere.

>>191791662
Its on amazon UK

>>191789984 (OP)

>Wanting NIS anywhere near your games

Although Ghostlight doesn't seem much better.

>>191791604
Yeah, DeSu has stuff like Beldr and that one big fly that are really fucking annoying.
It also has some cheap stuff though, like dumb as a brick allied AI
The other day I was playing that one chapter where you kill the vampire demon, but the one that had to kill it was a character that was controlled by the AI, so I left the demon with only 50 HP and 0 MP, but then another AI controlled character attacked it and killed himself. Fucking Kaido, you dumb motherfucker.

Gamestops and Media Markts here in German still have this game everywhere. Kind of disgusting how they keep selling it without so much as a warning label.

>>191791737
I like DeSu's OST, but Awakening's OST is clearly superior.

>>191791604
You can disable permadeath.

If I have never played any of the older games is this an ok starting point?

Didn't like Desu's OST all that much but this song will forever be stuck in my mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D45NWb388qw

FE:A has overall the better music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfvY1S-j67k

>>191792024
>Beldr
I shit you not, I just beat that guy.

That was such a bullshit battle. Only the MC could damage him. Not his demons, not his allies, not his allies' demons, but just the MC.

There is a bug in the US edition where the game can freeze if you pick up the random laptop on a combat square.

>>191792240

Yeah, it doesn't require any prior knowledge. The themes of the story, while it starts out like Digimon, quickly turn VERY classic SMT-like.

>>191792240
It's an entirely self-contained story, go for it.

>>191790754
>>191791548

Guys wanting to buy it: Play-asia put it on hold till the bugs were fixed, so they still should have some copies:

http://www.play-asia.com/Shin_Megami_Tensei_Devil_Survivor_Overclocked/paOS-13-71-18m-49-fr-70-6a8j.html

>>191789984 (OP)

Too bad the game will always be bugged unless you patch it, so when the servers are shut down you are left with a bugged version

>>191791604
In DeSu you control 4 characters at a time. In Fire Emblem you control at least 8 and most of the time it goes up to 12 or so (up to 19 in older games, and I heard in FE4 you don't have a limit to how many units you can use)

>>191792240
>If I have never played any of the older games is this an ok starting point?
No, different story and it's a tactical RPG while the other are standard RPG. It's more a spin-off than a SMT, really.

Do we have an EU release date for SMT IV? Thinking about picking up a 3DS for that and FE

>>191792331
>One born of human flesh...
>Man is now a race of some power.

>>191792240
Devil Survivor is the first of the Devil Survivor games. It IS the starting point.

>>191792641

Not yet, but should be this year.

DeSu is EASY AS FUCK if you grind for 2 hours before each boss battle.

I know... I live a pretty sad life. But it's also an unfortunate game flaw.

It's probably the same for any SMT/Persona game. Grind and fuse, get the right skills, easy win.

>>191792331
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM6DClLQaow
This shit is great

>>191792628

That said the themes of the plot are more SMT than any SMT since 2.

Am I the only one who hates demons that speak in CAPSLOCK with broken grammar?

I thought I summoned a demon, not a shitposter.

>>191792725
>Grinding in DeSu
pathetic.

>NIS
I think you mean Nintendo

>>191789984 (OP)
>Ghostlight is never touching another Atlus game again in Euroland and that SMT4 is getting published by NIS.

And who's going to bring EO4 here?
Not that I'm concerned, I imported a japanese console to be safe.

>>191793045

Also NIS.

>>191792896
Wilder and haunt are stupid chaos demons.

>>191792928
well you have to grind for skill cracking

don't tell me you run all over the fucking place trying to skill crack in major battles.

>>191793093
Goddammit, see >>191792984
NIS is only bringing over Soul Hackers

britfag here, i had no idea this was even released

>>191792896
>Am I the only one who hates demons that speak in CAPSLOCK with broken grammar?

After all these years, I've grown used to any possible shit from these fuckers, really.
Dem fuckin demons' man. Dem fuckin demons.

>>191793198
I do.
I only played Free Battles like 3 times on the whole game for some skills I missed during the story battles (random crits making someone kill a character they weren't supposed to kill or stuff like that)

>>191793419
well congrats you are professional gamer

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Why is the artist so great?

>>191793205

http://www.siliconera.com/2013/04/08/nis-america-tell-us-about-their-european-publishing-arrangement-with-atlus/

>This Summer, NISA will be releasing Etrian Odyssey IV. And they’re interested in pursuing other Atlus games, too, they tell us.

>>191792896
Hey, if it speaks that's already something. Some SMT worthies just growl or moan.
And if you can understand what it say, consider yourself lucky.

>>191793586
Maybe you were going for anything other than a magical build on the MC?

>>191793729
Could've sworn it was Nintendo. Well, I'm sure SMT IV is Nintendo

>>191793729
>an American branch of a Japanese company is handling the European publishing for a Japanese game from a different Japanese company whose own American branch has already done the English translation for
This is how jobs get made!

>>191793729

You poor souls.

The only thing they still get to ruin here is Neptunia.

>>191793976

What's wrong with them?

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>>191793846
To be fair, some SMT demons do pretty good poetry.
If somewhat creepy.

>>191793881
strength, no points into anything else until 40

I guess magic really is the better choice.

>>191794062
I wouldn't call that pretty good

>>191794175
Well no shit you had to grind.

>>191794049

Their translations are terrible, they only dub like a tenth of the game if it's not Disgaea, and the games they publish often have really bad bugs in them, like Ar Tonelico II and the first Neptunia.

Basically, Murrikkan Ghostlight.

>>191794204
Well, clearly you're an uncultured boor then.

>>191793609
Shit anatomy and boobs

>>191794381
Whelp, out of the frying pan and into the fire

>>191794469
>Not liking anti-gravity tits
what's wrong with you

>>191794381
>they only dub like a tenth of the game if it's not Disgaea
Sounds pretty good if they leave the original voices.
And I don't think they can't dub into 5 languages for the EU version, anyway.

>>191794372
it was also my first SMT game. currently playing nocturne and P3P.

I'm doing a magic build in nocturne and so I think I'm doing that one the hard way too. heh

>>191794381

But at least they only take four months instead of 12 or not at all.

>>191794564

Might be okay if Atlus translates it first. They have their own problems, but they're much better.

Of course, if Ghostlight can still fuck it up...

>>191794452
I bet you liked Marie's poetry, too.

What's the best SRPGs on DS or 3DS?

>>191794731
They're going to take more than a year for EO4.
It's already almost a year old.

>>191794381
They only have publishing duties for Atlus titles, not retranslations

>>191789984 (OP)
How convenient that I happened to order this game online just today then.

>>191794690
He meant that they only voice the most crucial story bits, rest is text.

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>>191794876
Difficult to say, several good candidates.
Perhaps that one?

>>191794175
it isn't that it is the better choice, you can make up issues by having certain monsters with you.

There are physical immune and physical reflect monsters near the end though. Overlocked did receive some better setups for physical builds.

Am I retarded for making my MC's stats equal? What should I be investing in?

As it is, I'm at level 26 and my Strength, Magic, Vitality, and Agility are all the same, give or take one point.

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>>191794876
For sheer strategy, this one.

>>191796565
I think in order of importance:

str/mag (pick one) > agility > vitality

I don't believe vitality is important at all when you can stick a revival spell on every single demon and there's the skill Endure.

Agility is for first turn. Pick str or mag so you can have more damage.

>>191796565
All magic and a couple of points in strenght for holy dance.

>MC with Drain, Holy Dance, Dual Shadow, any skill that regenerates HP and/or MP at the end of the turn, and ban physical or magic
I love this feeling, I'm so damn strong, truly worthy of the throne of Bel.

>>191792024
>>191792356
People really had that bad a time with Beldr? I just rushed him with MC as my teammates kept the other demons off me. Having a demon with Double Up also helps.

>>191796790
I didnt like the graffix on this one, I prefer the sprites from the GBA games.

>>191793970
Fucking middlemen

>>191797681
Everyone does, but the difficulty and level design in this one are some of the best in the whole genre.

>>191797626
It wasn't that it was hard, just that it was tedious.

If the only attack that works is Devil's Fuge, and only one character has it, no one's gonna be happy about that.

>>191793970
>>191797831
Sometimes I seriously wonder if the process could be consolidated any further.

I guess doing it this way is cheaper than opening an Atlus Europe or Atlus UK.

>>191792331
Demon of Darkness is pretty great.

>>191793609
A lot of people don't like him, but I really like his style. I has a great contrast with the demons and makes DeSu unique.

>>191794694
You are, physical demi fiend beats the shit out of magic demi fiend. If you tossed focus then just stick with magic

>>191798882
I don't really like the artist who usually draws human characters for the main SMT games. Everyone is so pale and deadpan.

Devil Survivor 3 when? I fucking love this series.

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I seriously hope you guys don't buy ghostlight shit ever again like me
>implying they will ever get an atlus game again

>>191799121
Atlus is kinda busy now, with SMTIV, DeSu2:BR, the new EO and Persona 5

>>191799121
More like DeSu 2 overclocked

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>>191796790
this is honestly a GOAT fire emblem

>>191797681
Me too, but this is easily one of the best games in the series

http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Devil_Survivor_Bosses
holy shit who are all these dudes

Do you guys replay this game? Seems like it'd be kind of repetitive.

>tfw you will never buy Atlus

>>191799923
After you beat it once you keep your demons, and with LV60 demons the game becomes really fast.

>>191799923
It does get very repetitive. Every route is the same for most of the game except the last day (and the 8th in Overclocked, if that route has one)

In my opinion though this game has some of the best endings in the series, so its worth it

>>191799923
>>191800304
Also Overclocked has something similar to the Tales GRADE system, and its pretty fun seeing what you can unlock for the next playthrough

>Midori's English VA
The only reason I wanted Japanese voices for this game.

I read somewhere that Midori's English VA is Kana Asumi, aka the pinnacle of kawaii. But we get some obnoxious Jewish lady doing the English voice.

>>191800802
Fucking Atlus and their lack of dual audios

I still need to beat this game.

Stopped on day 7 on Amane's route on the Naoya/Loki fight.

>Kana Asumi, aka the pinnacle of kawai
That's a funny way to spell Rie Kugimiya

>>191801126
Devil Survivor didn't even have fancy 3D graphics, I'm sure they had enough room to keep the Japanese voices.

I liked this better than soul hackers, am I evil

>>191800802
>Midori's Japanese VA
Fuck, I look stupid now.

>>191801401

Also Naoya's route was best

Finally I didn't have to do the fucking escort missions

>>191801401
Liked it better too.

It's not ghostlight's fault, it's Index.

>>191802178
Considering the US release was bug free, it absolutely is Ghostlight's fault.

Seriously, how the hell do you fuck up a game that was already released in English?

>>191791083
>there had to have been something going on behind the scenes between P4A and DS:O

Now I'm really curious.

>>191802318
>>191802318
Basically what's going on behind the scenes is that ever since Atlus got bought by Index, Index mandated that every single release they do for US and EU must be sent back to their headquarters to be programmed into the game by their own software programmers instead of the ones at Atlus or Ghostlight.

This is why P4:A has gotten region lock put into it. Basically the programmers at Index were so busy with their other games that it took them a year of delay to take Ghostlight's script and add them into Devil Summoner and then to release them. After that, they have to wait until they're no longer busy for them to release a patch (they are free now since SMT4 is released)

That's why there's been a delay between release and no doubt when NIS takes over as well, these same problems will occur because EU is given less of a priority compared to the US Atlus branch.