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Shadow of the Colossus takes place in the same world as ICO. And in the same area where the fuckhuge castle is in ICO. Now heres my question. Where the fuck did Mono, if we assume that she's the Dark Queen from ICO, get the materials and workers to build such a massive and confusing castle? Also was Dormin really evil?
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>>186006137 (OP)
Mono is not the dark queen, just shut up right there.
The island that the castle is on is separate from the Forbidden Land in SotC. On the castle island, there are multiple tribes and groups and religious figures. Judging that Ico's home-tribe sacrificed kids there, we can assume it was built over many generations by the tribes and the shadow creatures made by the dark queen. And Dormin? Not fully. He just wanted to be worshipped again.
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Dormin probably wasn't evil. He did try to dissuade Wander from going through with the ritual and he did keep his word.
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>>186006427
Then what happened to Mono?
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>>186006554
Mono is just some girl that we assume Wander loved.

You gotta realize, SotC takes place years if not generations before ICO.
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Man, The US got shafted in the cover art department.
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Mono IS the queen. She absorbed some of Dormin's dark magic and became nearly immortal. ICO takes place many, many years after SoTC.
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>>186006137 (OP)

Is Castle in the Mist (ICO novelization) canon?

I don't think it is but it was a damn good read

Also SotC is in the same general world but takes places centuries before
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>>186006427
The Castle in the Mists and the Forbidden Lands aren't that far away from each other though.
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>>186006787
Shafted doesn't even BEGIN to tell it.
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>>186007001
They're still separate, if only by a bridge.
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I wouldn't say Dormin is evil. He did keep his promise after all.
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>>186006834
>Castle in the Mist

You sir have good taste; I loved that book.
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>>186006554
Didn't she start the bloodline of horned people from which Ico was apart of?
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Fun fact, Guillermo Del Toro was directly inspired by ICO.
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>>186007303
SOMEONE did, rather.
Wander grew up with the horns after rebirth and screwed someone, perhaps Mono, and thus began the cursed generation that Ico was part of.
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>>186007262
Yeah, Satan keeps his word as well.
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>>186007418
Hitler WOULD have kept his fun, if it weren't for the turnout of the war.
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I wonder. Did the Colossi's deaths actually revive the forbidden lands? I mean at the end we see a variety of animals not seen during the game.
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>>186006807
then wat the fuck happened to wander?
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>>186007662
I've heard people compare the Forbidden Land to the biblical Garden of Eden.
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Random point: Realistically, what are the odds The Last Guardian is shown at E3?
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>>186007714
He died, but started the Cursed Race that Ico was born as.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFX2bDATGU4&hd=1
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>>186007730

As much as I'm really hoping it is... about 1 in 10.
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>>186007730
Slim. There have been several high profile departures from Team Ico.
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>>186007730
i think team ico wasted all there money on bitches and mountains of cocaine and then ran out of money to finish the last guardian.
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>>186007409
ahh that's right, i forgot she didn't actually give birth to the baby at the end.
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>>186007804
I like the save music better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGwfBvW3YA8
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>>186007730
impossibru!
>you will never find out how the ancient civilisation of the Forbidden Lands became cursed
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>>186007730
Slim to none. Last I heard they farmed it off to the guys who made God Of War because it was going so badly.
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>>186008050
Oh god. That isn't good.
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>>186008050
That isn't true, is it?

>Beautifully rendered gargantuan wonder of fantasy and magic
>Now look at its titties
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>>186008050
>>186008019
>>186007826
>>186007874
>>186007875
b-but i heard it was being saved for the ps4 launch
please let the rumors be true for once
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>>186007998
I used to leave the old ps2 version sitting on the save couch a lot just to have this music playing in the background.
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ICO reminded me of a Miyazaki movie.
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>>186007730
Zero.

I forget, is the Ico novel canon?
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>>186008383

I don't know where it is right now honestly. I really don't know what to think, every time Team Ico is asked about the project they say it's still in development. If it was canned why don't they just say so?
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>>186008383
>tfw you miss even getting the same old chain-and-feathers video at E3 every year
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>>186008591

I think it's just Miyabe's interpretation of the universe so I would say no. Hell, I'd be just fine if it was though.
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These games had fucking stories?
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>>186008242
Best horse in a video-game ever.
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>>186008585
Nah. Miyazaki would make Yorda into a Mary sue and make Ico into a secondary supporting character at best.
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>>186008690
Figured as much. I liked her take on it as well, especially the whole Yorda backstory, expansion on Ico's sacrifice and the stone city.
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>>186008383

It makes a lot more sense to me at this point to make it a PS4 system seller instead of a last-gasp PS3 game

The power of the PS4 will free them from some artistic restraints that were undoubtedly holding the game vision back, too
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>>186008801
Agro sacrificed himself to save you.
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>>186008801
The saddest part of SOTC in my books was after the bridge collapses, if you press X Wander lets out the most depressing whistle I have ever heard. It was fucking heartbreaking.
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>>186009061
Herself anon, herself.
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>>186009061
Mono wasn't worth it. Wander should have just gotten over it.
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>>186009061
Agro is female.
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>>186009061
>>186009107
you know agro lives right?
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>>186009265
That's what I like about it. Mono is clearly very important to Wander but almost insignificant to the player keeping them distanced so you can judge Wanders actions with a more neutral bias.
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>>186009393
Yes, but that doesn't make the whistle any less sad, does it?

Wander never knew that she made it.
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>>186009476
That's what I like about it as well.

Though the moment a character says "I want to bring X back from the dead" I start thinking they're being stupid. You just have to accept that shit.
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>>186006787
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Theories as to what the story of The Last Guardian will Involve?

Personally i think you'll be able to visit places via the flying beast like the forbidden lands and the castle where Ico took place or it's ruins depending on the time line and other various locations that will build upon the lore of the world.
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>>186010983
I think shit will go down on a bridge. Shit always goes down on a bridge.
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>>186011174
>WOOOW EHHE SUSSISSUS
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>>186011314
It's like WoW but with more OO.
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>>186011174
With flying beasts that's actually very true now that i think about it
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>>186011352
Man, I really want a SoTC 2.
Or another game that does what SoTC does. I just want more fucking colossi.
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>>186009531
That's depressing as fuck. I never knew that, christ that is sad...
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>>186011468
Same. I felt the game was struggling with them a little because the one afraid of flames was rather dumb. The armour factor was interesting but otherwise eh.

I wish Attack on Titan had a game. It'd be SOTC crossed with a horror game.
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>>186007295
>>186006834
shit, I own that book and haven't even started it
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>>186011393
I wouldn't mind seeing some of the old scenery from the previous games via flying on Trico. Chances are it'd be minimal, like finding what looks like the Ico beach in SOTC.

I kind of want it to be a SOTC prequel so there's a chance we could figure out what some of those ruins are actually for.
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>>186011973
It's good. Have fun. I felt the backstory was better than the scenes from the video game parts but that's because a book can't really recapture those gaming moments but that's just my opinion.
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>>186007730
it hurts
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>>186008828
Oh please, Nausicaa is plenty flawed as a person. She decides that she'd rather let mankind slowly go extinct rather than wait and allow men to eventually be replaced by genetically perfected men of peace. Not to mention her rage issues, lying to what is essentially a baby in order to trick it into killing itself and her suicidal tendencies. She was a well rounded character.
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>>186012129
>actually seeing a living breathing version of the Forbidden Land
Oh god this would be amazing
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>You will never get to fight giant colossi
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>>186013349
>it would squash you like a bug
>even though you started the fight, you monster


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