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Name a more fun hero than The Invoker.

>fast as fuck
>loads of melee damage
>global nuke thats easy to land
>invis
>reliable stun
>always get mid
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sniper
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>>196195310 (OP)
>venomancer
>lich
>shadowlord
all better than tbat elffaggot.
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>>196195310 (OP)
>melee damage
>shoots fireballs
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>>196195310 (OP)

Blink, poof, backstab, dead.

Or

Silence, curse, glaive, global silence, glaive, dead.
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What's the reliable stun that Invoker has?

In my opinion unless you work your lineup around Sunstrikes, Invoker isn't that good anymore (most played Invoker here, around 3.3k hours logged in, not just talking out of my ass). And being subpar isn't fun to me.
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Rubick if the enemy team has good abilities. I once dived with my team 3 towers while constantly stealing their speed buffs and then tossing them back one by one for my team to destroy.
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>>196195876
That's just false. EMP/Nado got hit, but mostly in it's ease of use, not it's overall potential. Running 4-1-4 is still great, and alacrity buff is huge utility, particularly with Syllabear being such a common pick now. The biggest problem is that he can't lane against strong mids without Exort though, which is a big issue, and even then he gets shit on by bottle crow or any of the big mids.
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Forges is an amazing midgame build but you get dumped on if they decide to push, gank and 5man before you get to level 10.
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Pfft. How can anyone like this piece of unbalanced mediocre shit? It's complicated for the point of being needlessly complicated, looks horrible, and plays like garbage. Plus the HUD is amazingly shit.
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>>196195876

It's amazing how you can be so experienced yet not know what you're saying.

Invoker still has wicked teamfight and utility, even if his base damage needs a serious buff
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>be carl
>invokeronthelane.jpg
>AM blinks to me
>THROW EVERYTHING
>he survives no problem
>greasy fingers hits Q Q W
>he immediately dust me
>starts right clicking my ass
>mana burnin
>mfw
>I force staff myself over a cliff like the 1337 I am
>he blinks
>right clicks me
>almost no more mana
>ohgodno.jpg
>pop a TP scroll while hiding in a juke spot
>he finds me
>Mana Void
>I black out
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>>196201254

He would really be be too strong mid if his damage was buffed.

Right now you have to choose early on between being able to last hit or getting more regen. If he had more base damage he'd be unstoppable.
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>>196201505

I shit on invokers mid with Witch all day every day.
Mid life him with AA / cask, stunlock maledict

>he's about to pop
>FIRST BLOOD
>FEELIN GOOD MON
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>>196195310 (OP)
> melee damage

what ?

>always get mid

You don't "get" mid you take it. If someone else tries to take it from you refuse to leave, and thus ruin the game in the process to teach him you're not to be fucked with
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Now I've only played ~180 games but I don't think I've ever seen an invoker ever do extraordinarily well
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>>196201683

Invoker has trouble against orbwalkers/runewhoring spell spammers. If you autoattack him near the creepwave you get coldsnapped dead.
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>>196201905
> barely played any games
> Low-bracket
> never seen high-skill hero played well

well no shit
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>>196201909

get out fakegay
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>>196202142

Not in here silly we're discussing invocations
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>>196202205

ur straight ass invocations
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>>196201905

That's because you've only play around 180 games.

Also depends on what you think extraordinarily well means.
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>>196195876
>3k hours invoker
>still doesn't understand wex primary invoker is a guaranteed 30-0 k/d

it's like you turn off ur brain
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>>196195310 (OP)
He's a versatile little fucker. Either you're good with him or you're fucking shit. It takes a bit of practice with him to be able to change and mix spells up, along with a good memory to remember all of them.
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>>196202434
why no W until level 10...
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>>196202434

>OD
oh baby hes m-
that skill build
what the fuck
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>dotards seriously defending burden of knowledge
>dotards seriously defending artificial difficulty
>dotards seriously defending input delay

top fucking lel
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>>196202634
What the fuck is "w" you league shitter ? It's called Astral Imprisonment. Also they don't get get it cause "no damage XD" cause that's how the COD generation processes what's good, or not.
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>>196202634
>>196202638

People are stupid, more news at 11.

The ride never ends.
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>>196202601
>along with a good memory to remember all of them.

It just becomes second nature once you've played like 50 games though.

A trick I found worked for me is invoking things like EQE instead of EEQ or QEE. Just seems to be faster.
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>>196202757

it's the w key.
you know the keybinds the game defaults you to
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>>196202774
> Consider playing puck
> Worried cause so fragile, and exp depndt
> See this skillbuild is most popular

Well I guess I'm already beating the majority
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>>196202963
Valve should just remove all skill names, and replace them with letters
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>>196195310 (OP)
Who is the Random Button?
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>>196203007

the world should stop using acronyms and shorthand too
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>>196202969

My escapade through the trenches has been fruitful.
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>>196203007
>>196203083
why so elitist about skill names and skill button?

i'm a legacy player too [since the Dota's wallpaper is 4 character with doom,ryali and 2 other guy]

QWER is better keybinds than the old dota-1..
if anything, legacy keybinds is more like a hassle than a feature..
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>>196201491
Your fun stops here
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>Go dazzle
>Laning phase
>Enemy try to gank my carry (sven)
>They ignore all the creep defending him
>I pop my heal
>Their lifebar turn white
>Sven recover from his stun and pop storm hammer
>One of the guys get hit
>We hit him until he is low on life
>I throw my poison at him
>The dot start acting
>FIRST BLOOD

Dazzle is one of the few supports that can solo almost anyone if given an equal farm.
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Draven.
And soon he's about to get a lot more fun, in the next patch his passive will grant him a stack every time he catches an axe or kills a creep, upon killing an enemy champion Draven consumes all stacks gaining 3 gold per stack
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>OP thinks Invoker is more fun than ES
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>>196203270

Here's more, the trench is an amazing place to be.
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>>196203708
>that build
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>>196195310 (OP)

Necrolyte with shadow blade and radiance.
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>>196203708
>you are the playing you're calling bad
????
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>>196203840

You think that's bad? Check this out.
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Dark Seer is more fun

>well the enemy team is farmed as fuck
>let me put down this wall
>Vacuum
>oh look their health is all gone


>>196204120
I think you may be retarded
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>>196204120

Im sorry what?
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>>196204120
He was the Dark Seer, he just clicked on Jug to show his items
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>>196204230
>Vlad's on BS
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>>196204120

Jesus fucking christ, I can already tell you're a pub retard.

I clicked on Juggernaut, I'm the DS.
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Name a more terrible genre than ASSFAGGOTS

>Casual as fuck
>Despite this it still has tons of elitists
>Annoying fanbases that argue about which ASSFAGGOTS has more casual gameplay
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>>196204120
In dota, when you select another unit besides your own, you're given a full view of all their skills stats and build

>>196204230
I'm not even a regular dota player and this hurts to look at
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>>196204339
>>>/b/
you're not derailing this thread while a clear minded LoL player is here
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Pugna
Storm Spirit
Skywrath
Puck
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>>196204339

>steepest learning curve in video games
>somehow still casual
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Dark Seer
Dazzle
Visage
Chen
Nyx
Pugna
Void
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>>196204241
>>196204243
>>196204325
>>196204337
>>196204374
le troled hard
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>>196204374

I think i would enjoy LoL a lot more if so much of the game didnt involve out of game customization/hero unlocking
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>>196204337

>n0smoke360

I think i want to die now
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>>196204547
yeah I agree, it's a real pain in the ass
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>>196201909
I always seem to out mid Inokers by using Necrolite and maxingout his last hit regen first and using the Q to last hit and scare invoker out of creep range
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>>196204374
>>196204331

You ready for more?
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Witch Doctor. Nothing beats happy bouncy time.
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Tinker

>mfw getting Boots of Travel and Sheepstick
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>>196201491
>playing invoker when enemy team has AM
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>>196204638
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>>196202774
Holy fucking shit, I thought everyone knew you take phase shift level 1.
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Dota needs a tooltip for supports to flash up on the screen that says don't fucking steal LHs.

I never play carry, but when I Random one I need the farm. And if you're close to an item just ask and I'll give you a few
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>>196204940
>>196204857

Do you know what else is never picked early?
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>>196204940

>phase shift level 1

Funny way of saying orb.
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Please
no more
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>2013
>playing dota
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>>196205052
kill me
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>>196205169

adjusting for luck is a skill
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>>196205169
>>>/b/
This is a civilized thread, you will not bait the dota players into a shitposting argument, get >>>/out/
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>>196205052
It's like seeing a Chen laning and he just skills his nuke
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>>196204638
OH GOD STOP IT!
>playing with muted batrider
>he has this build
>numerous times enemies run away
>he hardly ever puts napalm on them
>finally he leveled flamebreak
>uses it to push enemies away when we can easily win teamfights
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>>196205245
>getting aura level 2
WHY
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>>196205308
>all those positive win rates
>trench
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>>196205349

sustain of course
silly
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>>196205052
What the fuck?
Just what the fuck?
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>>196205245
I can understand getting that if you're getting shit on by ranged supports early.

But you're not doing the Damage worth that
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Hue
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>>196204523
That ain't dorf fort.
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>>196195775

>multi-cast
>DING DING DING

dead
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>>196205349
Insane lane sustain mate, now you'll never get harassed out of lane. Also your creeps will be tougher, so you can keep the pressure on the enemy's tower. Same reason for a RoB.
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most fun hero coming through
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>>196195310 (OP)
>280 movement speed
>lowest base damage in the game, not melee
>1.7 cast time, damage gets shared through all targets
>invis slows you until you max wex, takes spell slot
>reliable mini-stuns
>never gets picked
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>>196205075
>not leveling your escape ability first
>leveling ult at lvl 6 when it's useless apart from rushing towers
the trench, it hurts.
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>>196205075
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>>196205476
>so you can keep the pressure on the enemy's tower
You are not mid laning you dumbshit, you also don't want to push at level 2.

>Insane lane sustain mate.
1 tango at max.
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>>196202774
Im a puck player and Im utterly disgusted.
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>>196205642
I can tell why the League text colour is green
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>>196205630
Why?
Just why?

The mana cost on higher level stun AND hex is huge.
With mana drain and tranquil boots you dont even have to return to base ever again.
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>>196205836
That build isn't that bad.
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>>196205992
You are fucking stupid
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>>196205690
this one actually doesn't seem TOO bad

they should still level the q more than that though
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>>196205642

i've played all three for a significant amount of time
the communities may be different but they all have the same demeanor
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>>196205630
pls no more
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>>196205642
You should replace League with leddit potheads who go around telling everyone how atheist and intellectual they are and you got it perfect.
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>>196205939
Drow's ulti is wrong, skeleton king's crit is outdated.
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>>196206068
q is aoe unlike w
1 level on w and maxing q is how I prefer it.
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>>196205939
>>>/b/
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>>196206068

>Lothar's and Aghs more commonly built than Mekansm

Come again?
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>>196206128
>battlefury
>shadow walk mostly unskilled until late game
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How to play Dirge, the portable cemetary?
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>>196206258
oh god what the fuck

I didn't even look at the items holy shit
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>>196206274
Easy

Skill Decay first
Then heal
Max Tombstone early for dem slows
Build Arcane, Vanguard, and Bloodstone
Walk around and slap shit while you support
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>>196206274

Put down a tombstone in fights
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How does this happen?
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>>196195310 (OP)
If I do say so myself, Carl is a pathetic peddler of the arcane arts and does not even come close to matching the greatest Magus of them all, Rubick.
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Timbersaw

Nothing beats being a mechanized goblin spiderman with razor blades.
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>>196206421
Easy

No one knows how Bristle except for who played him

All he needed to do was show his back
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>>196206274
tombstone and watch the trench burn
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>>196206421
I'm guessing lifestealer and slark tried chasing him
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>>196206274
You see that Tombstone? You can win games with it.
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>>196206274
Drop Tombstone in teamfight, reap at least two kills. Rinse and repeat until fed enough to take on the entire enemy team in a 1v5.

Fuck Undying and fuck you.
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>>196206274
You see a group of players?

Decay and tombstone
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>make the switch from LoL to DotA
>20 or so games played
>try Invoker in a practise match

god
daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn

>>196205460
>landing a 4x multi-cast Q on a carry
>those slot reels SFX

ringading ding baby
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>>196206368
Back to trench faggot.
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>>196206568
>Fuck Undying and fuck you.

Nobody fucks Undying bro.

How you like that extra damage aura from his Golem form while you're knee deep in zombies and being decayed?
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>>196203372
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these skill builds fucking hurt to look at
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>>196202434
>most popular build
Now that has to be bullshit. Every time the other side has OD, he neuters the mid with those banishes. Every game.
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>>196206706
What?

Early on you're going to be low on mana/regen for mana. Unless you have a KOTL laning with you the mana cost for leveled Decay and Soul Rips isn't worth it until Arcane's
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>>196206478
never had as much fun as him.
I tried to get into invoker but i'm too lazy to memorize the combos.
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>Not playing Sven every game
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Storm Spirit best hero.

Haha! Good luck trying to catch me!
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>>196206706
Maxing Tombstone first is his recommended build in 90% of situations. It's a guaranteed kill 1v1 early game and wins the shit out of team fights.
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>>196206564
>>196206393
>>196206508
I know what the tombstone does, but I die instantly in a teamfight, although the zombies keep breaking havoc among the enemy team until some bright player decides to destroy the gravestone.
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>>196206545
Post one for Witch Doctor and Sniper.
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>>196206545
If I were going carry build this might be acceptable, only then you need one point in wards to cut off people from escaping.

wish he had a kill-switch for wards so that you dont block off friendlies.
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>>196206871
gotta love mah nigga storm spirit
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>>196206871
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>>196206979
DECAY

SPAM DECAY MOTHERFUCKER

SAP THEIR STRENGTH

IT GIVES YOU HEALTH

ARE YOU STILL DYING?

SOUL RIP YOURSELF

YES, RIPPING YOUR SOUL HEALS YOU
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>>196207036
Stop trying to stir shit, I don't give a fuck if you play LoL or dota 2. Just stop.
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>>196207061
>that early level harass
please, please go out of my lane.
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>>196207083
You rip other souls you idiot
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>>196206986
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>>196206747
>Nobody fucks undying
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>>196207132
>Cast Soul Rip on yourself when nobody is around

WHOSE SOUL IS HE RIPPING FAGGOT?
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>>196207036

lel
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>>196207230
It doesn't heal worth shit if there are no units around.
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>>196207230
Insects cakeboy

You see them butterflies around
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>>196206835
its not the skill build its the fucking items, vanguards worthless and bloodstone is shit esp on supports. Get arcanes and a mek then buy obs and sents, dirge doesnt need items to be useful.
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Why are there so many LoLfaggots trying in vain to get attention in this thread?

I mean, I realize they don't actually play the game, but surly they're busy arguing about waifus or something?
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>>196207315
Well fuck
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>>196207181
holy shit are they serious

where's the sniper build
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>>196207223
Don't forget the chillin' villain
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Tusk
Spiritou Bureiku
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>>196207370
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>>196207370
>That suck fucking burn
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>>196207451
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>>196207360
Because you keep respondoing to them you inbecile
ignore them and this whole board would be far better.
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>>196207360
Cool moral high ground you have there. It'd be a shame if DOTA2 fans did this in every assfaggot thread ever.
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>>196207370
>I have a flip chart

>>196207181
You get W early?
Daaamn i've been building him wrong
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I'm personally a big fan of the Uninstall Wizard
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>>196207518
>Dota 2 fans can actually put into text why their game is better in their mind
>LoLfags spam images

League of Lel
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>>196206274
maxtombstone, get poison orb,phase, armlet and star to punch someniggers
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>>196207587
Oh, you. You are being so silly buttercup.
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>>196207181
You're gonna regret that when you have no mana for a casket. I'd be more concerned about maxing maledict second.
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>>196207550
>You get W early?

It's the best level 1 heal if we talk about mana efficiency
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time for a good anti-lol thread
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>>196207587
and by that you mean dotbabies make shit up and pretend game crippling flaws in dota don't exist
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>>196207494
Jesus Christ this is real.
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>>196207716

>Level 1 Voodoo Restoration
>Costing mana
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>>196207539
http://www.heatworld.com/Celeb-News/2013/03/Justin-Bieber--officially-the-most-watched-person-on-Youtube-ever/

So jelly.
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>greentext
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>>196207754
This is why we can never have civilized moba threads

>>196207745
What level should I pick it up?
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>>196206031
Why is he wrong? Bash is pretty good for keeping people in place.
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STOP WISH THIS LOLVSDOTA SHIT

I GET THE FEELING ITS THE OP HIMSELF STIRRING SHIT
STOP
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>>196207995
10
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>>196207995
>What level should I pick it up?

Like 2 or 3, that's how I usually pick it up
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>>196195876
Invoker still remains an excellent initiator with Tornado/Meteor, and a potent ganker with Cold Snap/Ice Wall
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>>196207787
>Denying allows the player to do more than farm faster by outright preventing the opposing player from getting experience and gold, increasing the skill gap
>B-BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE

League of Legends is made by all the fucking shitters nobody liked who used to work on WC3 Dota. Makes sense people like Morello can't make an interesting game when all he can do is add nothing but power creep.
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>>196206274
>>196207083
There's something that really pisses me off when i play with Dirges.
Can somebody tell me why i know so many people that actually max tomb or decay first before putting a measly point in soul rip?

Seriously it's fucking retarded, there's no excuse. Stop fucking doing it because "Muh nuke" (the best part about it is the STR steal and that's 4 at level 1 anyway) or "muh teamfight".
At level 2 you'll use it fully quite often even with just creeps and that 250hp healing WILL save a fucking life.

Stop fucking ignoring an amazing healing skill, what the fuck.
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>>196208147
At least they didn't copypaste complete heroes from other DOTAs of the time unlike DOTA2.

inb4 you don't know shit about the game you play
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Reasons why DotA is shit when compared to League of Legends:

>laning lasts forever because you never have to go back
>awful art style
>heroes have too many passive abilities
>focus on RNG over player skill
>input delay
>Valve never holds tournaments because the game isn't competitive
>no summoner spells
>shit voice acting (memes and corny jokes)
>only a handful of heroes can jungle and they are limited to that
>retarded tower aggro rules
>no teleporting to wards
>passive laning (focus on denying instead of zoning/harassment)
>random powerups can shift the game on a whim
>gold lost on death (any competative player will tell you about "the slippery slope" and how it harms games)
>put into low priority pool for bullshit reasons
>$50 reskins
>not competitive
>you can get put into lowpriority for using an ingame feature (drawing on map)
>convoluted unit control
>unbalanced map
>retarded turn rates
>no brush
>teleports do not break when the user takes damage
>you can be banned for backdooring
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>>196207995
skill it when u need the regen. like laning against kunkka. otherwise focus on nukes.

idk why people have static builds in this game.
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>>196208115
Fun thing to do, remember war3 spells/passives etc and try to find out the few ones which aren't ripped into dota
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>>196208210
yeah i hate free games.
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dame one thing wrong with dota2, you cant.
>inb4 input delay
>inb4 casual baby shit
>inb4 character models are ripped off WC3
>inb4 mechanics are ripped off WC3
>inb4 terrible UI
>inb4 No Skill
>inb4 RNG
>inb4 developed by bronies
>inb4 anti-intuitive gameplay
>inb4 shitty matchmaking
>inb4 only needing to press 2 buttons in teamfights
>inb4 no stat customization outside of items
>inb4 no CC reduction
>inb4 no CD reduction
>inb4 no armor penetration
>inb4 no spell penetration
>inb4 no way to increase spell damage
>inb4 pay2win
>inb4 no fun allowed
>inb4 no real team play
>inb4 teleport back to lane
>inb4 no bushes
>inb4 turrets don't prioritize targets
>inb4 getting banned for back dooring
>inb4 killing your own allies
>inb4 don't need to go back to base to buy items
>inb4 shitty art style
>inb4 input delay
>inb4 everything is right-click carry, tanky initiator or ward bitch
>inb4 no strategy
>inb4 easy as fuck to tower-dive
>inb4 2 active skill per hero
>inb4 15% chance to deal 4x damage
>inb4 no smartcasting
>inb4 input delay
>inb4 no jungle buffs
>inb4 no dragon
>inb4 no baron nashor
>inb4 input delay
>inb4 no skillshots
>inb4 5 second stun
>inb4 carries who 1v5 with ease
>inb4 characters memespout
>inb4 rightclick2win lategame
>inb4 russians
>inb4 input delay
>inb4 jungling with no depth
>inb4 no counter jungling
>inb4 no stealing enemy buffs
>inb4 no comebacks
>inb4 no elixirs
>inb4 input delay
>inb4 not competitive
>inb4 copypasted skills
>inb4 no summoner spells
>inb4 no resource system other than mana
>inb4 no innate abilities
>inb4 no spellvamp
>inb4 imbalanced as fuck
>inb4 input delay
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>>196206274
>dunno who to play
>pick undying

It always works out. Poor nigga needs some cosmetics
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>>196208316

>laning lasts forever because you never have to go back

This statement contradicts itself. Stopped reading right here.
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>>196208376
Has to zoom out of the DOTA model even though he's cherrypicking. Damn those must be some ugly ass models.
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dota2 is to MOBAs as to Call of Duty is to first person shooters.

Is the game bad? No.
Is it made to market to the largest market (kids, poor people, idiots, and casuals)? Yes.
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Oh man, that civil discussion we were having? Fucking hated that. Glad this thread is now shitposting and strawman comics.
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fuck these threads, really, they always, always, always result to throwing shit, maybe that's why theyre /vg/ exclusive
and somehow its even worse there.
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>>196208602

>60 %

More like 50
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>>196207036
It's almost like they're the same characters in a newer engine
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>>196195310 (OP)
>invoker
>melee
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>>196208316
It's funny seeing LoLfags complain about turnrates when LoL needs them the most if anything. The abundance of "skill shots" which travel so fast they may as well be hit scan and have the width of an entire lane is just plain laughable.
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So I just downloaded Dota2. How many hours of frustration am I in for before the fun begins?
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>>196208631
Gee I wonder why. Maybe ask DOTA fans why they always shitpost general ASSFAGGOTS threads and you'll hear them complain about how bad everyone else but they themselves are.
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>>196208836
About 100
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>>196208836
Took me about three or four days of constant play to get the basics down.
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>>196208836
play a lot of bot games. coop bot games are good too. work your way up the difficulty.
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>>196208316
Bad copypasta
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>>196208836
If you do a bit of research into game mechanics, heroes, items and general laning, then there shouldn't be any frustration at all
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>>196208758
>travel so fast

I don't think you have played League
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>>196208836

200 if you don't read any guide
Less if you do read a beginner guide of some sort
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>>196208758
About 3
>dotbabies cant dodge skillshots
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>>196208963
>My image is soooo original and sooo much better.
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Puck and Visage.
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>>196208978
Don't listen to this guy. This is from a mindset of someone who knows how to play already. If you already know how to do something, the learning process you remember seems much easier. It's not.
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>>196208914
Carries usually only get farmed in low level shit tier games that last for fifty minutes. In high level and above the games the game ends at 30 where heroes such as Juggernaut reign supreme, and he's anything but a hyper carry.

The person who posted that has no fucking clue what he's saying.
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>>196208914
The irony.
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>>196208836

The fun doesn't begin until you have friends to play it with, and even then I'd put about 50-100 of time by to deal with initial rage at learning things.

This game man, it's been a while since any online game made me angry at people I know. Now I'm back to minor disappointment.
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>>196208395
so many bullshit i dont even want answer.
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>>196208758
it is kind of sad.

zero turnrate makes ranged heroes able to kite incredibly well.

in order to not get kited nearly every melee hero needs a dash or ranged slow.

pretty poor design decision. and at this point its so ingrained into the game.
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>>196209058
dodge, dude you spam this shit till you hit with no remorse at all
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>>196209013
I don't think you know what a skill shot is. It's a projectile that doesn't lock on and has to be aimed accordingly.

>>196209058
Actually in our game we can, because they're not fucking huge and actually take some "skill" to land.
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>>196209097
I memorized all the heroes and theorycrafted with items before I even started playing, and I didn't run into any frustrations
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>>196208471
lol is cancer of gaming
/thread
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>>196208963
This one's right, though. There's no inherent functional virtue behind originality. Making something good but generic is substantially better than making something unique but shit.
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I like lux the most
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>>196208316
>meme and corny jokes
I know this is a ruse but Twisted Fate has a gangnam style animation and that is absolutely despicable.
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>>196209225
>he doesn't understand the projectiles have to be faster because it doesn't take a second for your champ to respond to clicks
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>>196202774
Holy shit

Holy SHIT

What the FUCK
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>>196209225
"Check out this fucking sick skill shot I plastered the team with. We lost horribly because we couldn't coordinate together and nobody knew what laning was, but we made it".
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>>196209058
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>>196209312

And making something good and unique is better than both. What's your point?
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warlock is op.
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>>196209067
4chan hasnt been original since boxxy
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>>196209478
>9 to 38
My sides are in orbit.
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>>196209478
the fuck is going on there? wtf mode?
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>>196209374
>because it doesn't take a second for your champ to respond to clicks

And it doesn't in Dota either unless you tell him to do a 180, but keep spouting shit thinking turn rate and input delay are the same thing like all LoLbabbies who have barely touched the game. It's fun watching you fags get into a high tier game because you won your first match against other new players and then get stomped into the ground by people who have played for more than a month.
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>Play solo queue for once
>Single Draft
>Pick Viper
>Head mid
>Our Omniknight doesn't say a word but pings me then the hard lane tower
>Assume he means for Silencer to go mid because he keeps pinging Silencer
>Head to the bot lane
>Realise too late that Omniknight is taking mid
>He fails horribly and can't gank
>His friends top feed
>Omni was mid against fucking Beastmaster who Viper could dominate

I was so fucking irritated. How do people play solo queue at all? Actually, what the fuck made this retard think Omni mid would work?
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>mfw someone picks spirit breaker near me
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>>196209640
B-b-but Omni can work well with mid.
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>>196209579
>unless you tell him to do a 180

I bet you take a second to do 180 irl too.
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>>196208631

What is any thread in /v/ ever?
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>>196209640
I always, without fail, play with one friend. Sometimes two. No matter how badly things go, you will always have someone to commiserate with, and someone who will cooperate with you. In the VH bracket it's essential, and it really fucking helps. No matter what happens, you will always have a good time if you're duo-queuing. Solo queue is suffering (though it is slightly better in VH).
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>>196209803

Only if you aren't a fucking retard.

I'm not an amazing player by any means. I would only just barely qualify as "okay", but this guy was a straight fucking dingle dang fuckmole.
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>>196209793
Bara is so retarded broken after they changed him
I mean fuck, 40% movespeed to damage
What the fuck was Icefrog thinking
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>>196209815
I have to turn, yeah. I don't decide "let's look the other way" and then immediately face the other way, I go through a turning process.

Thanks for proving the point.
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>>196209962
If he's so broken why is he never picked in competitive play?
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>>196209962

Is this guy serious?
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>>196195310 (OP)
Any character in any not MOBA game ever.
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>>196209962
I don't mind.
Oh, you were ganking someone were you? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>196195310 (OP)
Rubick.

Your move, atheists.
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So


when does the world editor come out
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>>196202774
Is the issue here that he puts no points into phase shift or that he doesn't put a bunch in, because I normally just put one in around level 3/4 so I dodge if I need to. As far as I'm concerned, the higher levels just make it easier to dodge.
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>>196210042
Because his power isn't reliable, but it's perfect for trenchdiving
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>>196208836
Fun never begins, you only stop getting as mad

The game doesn't yield you any fun, but you do feel that you deprive the enemy team of fun
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>>196210116

Probably after the full release.

Never.
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>>196209990
Are you a tank? What is walking in other directions than straight ahead?
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Any new developments regarding Russians?

I'd love to play again, but I'm tried by them ruining every game.
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What's a fun yet relatively easy hero for a newcomer to DotA but played other MOBAs?

I like Lina, Witch Doctor, Ogre Magi, Windrunner (but I suck with her).

I don't really like Lich even though everyone else does. I don't really see his strength compared to say, Witch Doctor. Hard stun compared to a slow, yet they both kinda shit damage.
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>>196205519
>needing to escape at such a low level
lol
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>>196209924

I've had better luck in solo queue than the duo queues I've been in.

For some reason in solo queue I get usually people that chat and cooperate rather well while in the other queues it's back to no courier or wards tier.
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>>196210205
Funny, when I play Dota, I don't have to turn when I want to walk in other directions either way, and it doesn't take my character very long. But when I do a 180, there is a turning process. You're pretty much illustrating the exact point that guy is making.
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>>196210295

There's a lot of them still.
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>More fun hero than the invoker
Do you even multicast?
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>>196208316

>Awful art style

I know this is a shitpost but LoL players can and should never argue that DOTA has a bad artstyle when comparing the two games.

DOTA 2 obviously has a similarity to Warcraft's artstyle, medieval tolkien fantasy like but cartoonish.

LoL is just a clusterfuck of different artstyles conglomerated into one game. I mean just look at the new cinematic trailer they did for it. We start off somewhat warcraft like artstyle then degenerate into punk rogue with bright pink hair doing 100 rpm spins a second in the air and pulling giant daggers out of her ass and some modern styled child with pink hair, a school backpack and a giant teddy bear. I mean come the fuck on. And don't even get me started on Vi (who also has pink hair)
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>>196210296
Lich's strength is in having a million denies to fuck your opponents' exp and cash source up.
You could try tidehunter, good initiator once you get your arcs/blink.
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>>196210296
>>196210296

Beast master is pretty good for learning some more complex stuff like semi-skillshots and micro-management.
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>>196210295
Play HoN instead, there's no russians there
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>>196210138
Depends on the game, honestly. Sometimes I'll put two points into Phase Shift before level 6. I generally go orb at 1, shift at 2, rift at 3 or 4 depending on the situation, and then max orb first, followed by rift. It's rare that you need to max shift particularly early, but sometimes it happens.
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>>196209214
>lane
>miss skillshot
>the enemy has an advantage now because of the cd

>out of lane
>miss skillshot
>you probably missed a kill or got killed yourself

You only spam them in lategame for poke, and to do that you have to expose yourself to the enemy poke as well
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>>196210296
start learning to lasthit.
play luna and dragon knight.
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>>196210436

Vi's voice acting is the worst shit ever.

Also, what the fuck is the deal with Nikasaur and why is she so popular?
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>>196202774
Phase shift is probably the best skill in the fucking game what the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
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>>196210384
Shame.
I'll keep it uninstalled until I find a premade then.

>>196210480
Tried it. Didn't like the artstyle and learning all items and heroes again is a pain. Not to mention there is a LoL-like grinding system in place, isn't there?
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>>196209160
>in order to not get kited nearly every melee hero needs a dash or ranged slow.

nope, it's not that

Count heros in dota that have some sort of stun

Count champions in lol which have a gap closer

Melees have to get to melee range somehow, that's the reason
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>>196210515
>enemy has advantage because of cd
>5 or lower cooldown
>no mana cost
you can spam forever
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>>196210556
that'd be glimpse.
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>>196210556

No, not even close.
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>>196210638
It's been recently completely F2P, meaning no more grinding, everything unlocked, the only thing that's unlockable is skins, announcers, couriers and such, but you can even unlock them with Silver, which is the currency you get from just playing the game
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>>196210457
I see, that makes sense
I came from LoL so a lot of the mechanics get lost on me. I still have a League mindset so I just think "Towers and farming - everything else is secondary"

I'm in Russian smurf country so I'm sort of trying to avoid heroes with too much responsibility. Nothiing worse than fucking up and having the entire team come down on you when you know it's your fault.

>>196210547
I played Luna, I just kinda ran in with Shadowblade and ulted in the middle of everyone. That's probably a retarded thing to do, but her AA range was so short, I had trouble farming and doing damage without getting gibbed. I'm slowly getting better at CSing with the huge AA delays but its a learning process I guess

>>196210548
No one really likes her. I'm surprised she's still around after she shit herself at an event.
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>>196210436
>LoL is just a clusterfuck of different artstyles conglomerated into one game.

LoL artstyle is based on its lore, there are many regions, each champion fits into the aesthetic of its region, which gives a greater feel of diversity
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>>196210296

Huskar is an easy as fuck hero to use because he's near impossible to kill in one-on-one fights.
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>I random PL
>everyone else picks or randoms Bristle Back, Rubik, Sniper and Axe
>I go easy lane as PL
>Sniper goes off lane with BB
>Rubik goes middle
>I'm left solo
>have to beg rubik to support me top and for sniper to go middle
>rubik steals my farm
>no wards or courier
>Sniper calls miss after i'm dead from the gank
>abandon
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>>196210653
shitposting/10
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>>196210778
>I played Luna, I just kinda ran in with Shadowblade and ulted in the middle of everyone. That's probably a retarded thing to do, but her AA range was so short, I had trouble farming and doing damage without getting gibbed.
Make enemies pay.
Wit you passive damage buff, you'll be hurting them a lot more than they can hurt you.
Still, you shouldn't be too agressive, considering you'll pull minion aggro with such a short range.
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>>196210973
Plus, with the new Huskar buff, he's also near impossible to kill in teamfights as well!
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>>196210934
This is the most retarded thing I have ever heard. Stop trying please.
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>>196210296
Lion just got buffed and hot damn he is amazing.
>Free mana while stealing it from enemies
>Line stun + nice damage
>Hex is stupid as fuck
>Ult becomes a 1000dmg nuke every 20 seconds after agh
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>>196211090

>Rubick mid

People still do this?

Where was Axe? Don't tell me he was in the fucking jungle
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>>196211090
Should have soloed. In the trench, PL is perfectly viable as a solo. You'll stomp either way because no one ever properly ganks (with detection and actual planning) and you can farm forever.
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Aatrox is pretty fun

Diving on niggers all day with infinite sustain.

I'm glad Riot doesn't know how to balance champs
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>>196210778
I would recommend reading this guide for more information on mechanics that might not have been in LoL http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=123364699

It would be a good idea to read high rated skill and item builds for heroes as well, become aware of what is good on them.
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>>196211116
>minion
fuck off lolfag
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>>196210934
>implying dota 2 isn't the same without breaking aesthetic style
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>>196211192
you guessed it
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>>196211294
>implying
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>>196211272
I'm not in the trench, this was very high, I've got 700-800 hours played for fucks sake
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>>196205642
>DOTA 2
>"Team composition is irrelevant. 5 carries are viable"

Only the dead can know peace from my top lel

>"Every tournament match uses the same 20 Heroes"

Whoever made this image mistook DOTA 2 for League of Legends.

>League of Legends
>"Balanced"

Someone here never played against an AP Teemo
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>>196211274
He's a complete Maliken ripoff
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>>196210338

What is solo off lane.
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>>196211420
>Someone here never played against an AP Teemo

And so its confirmed, dotards are simply bad at the game
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>>196211353

Disgusting.

Fucking disgusting.

Axe is a luck based jungler, which is terrible. He should lane and level up his Battle Hunger for maximum fuck.
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>>196211464
what is being bad
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>>196211274
>Play elise top against Aatrox
>beat him with a war of attrition go in for the burst and kill him
>Pops his passive
>Run to my tower as everything's on cool down
>Knockup gap closer ultimate lifesteal tanks the tower.
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>>196211410
Do you ACTUALLY think the trench ever ends?

Really?
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>>196211647
A man can dream
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>>196209312
>There's no inherent functional virtue behind originality

>generic
>good

Sorry generic is never good when it comes to DotA-like games.

There's no point in boring ass "balance" by making everyone the same since the GAME is all about UNIQUE characters being balanced against each others.

Icefrog knows.
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>>196211159

>Got Huskar in single draft pick the other day
>Pushing the mid lane to enemy base after a somewhat bad start and venomancer disconnected on me in bot lane because...reasons
>Big team fight begins, do standard Huskar shit, use Lifebreak etc etc decimate enemy Clinkz and Sand King
>We're 3 down though so myself and ally Lina falls back
>Enemy Lion runs in and uses Agh's Finger of Death on me.
>About 25% health already
>Barely scratches me
>"WTF HUSKAR! HOW DID YOU SURVIVE THAT? REPORT! BROKEN HERO! OP! OP! OP!"
>Pissing myself laughing back to base.

He's so fucking broken and I love it.
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>>196210934
>annie
>aatrox
looks like they're from completely TWO different games

>diversity
>lol
apart from visual diversity, all lol champs play 1 of 5 set roles.
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>>196210973
So what build for Huskar?
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>>196211798

>Friends make me solo hard lane as Huskar
>Against a trilane
>Spend most of my time under the tower doing nothing and not getting any farm or XP
>End the game at 11/4/17

Fucking A.
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>>196211798
98% magic resistance sure is balanced!
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>>196210638
>I'll keep it uninstalled until I find a premade then.

Guilds coming.
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I like Rubick because he can steal spells and lift people with magic and he has autism just like me so he's relateable.
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>>196212024
learn damage types.
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>>196211930
Damage is the most important thing, since you get a million attack speed from your passive
MKB, Crits, BKB if the enemy team has lots of stuns
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>>196212175
>Parkinson's
>Autism
please anon
I known calling everything autism is fun
but please
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>>196212060
What's that?
A system similar to the implemented Steam community groups in Shogun 2?
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>>196212207
What exactly are you trying to say? How does my knowledge of damage types affect my statement?
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>>196212351
Something along the lines of Clans I think
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I love using Razor. Especially when I go mid, and the average Sniper or Drow doesn't understand that they're not doing damage anymore. But lately my teammates have been fucking me over. From BRs and RUs who don't lay down Sentries against invis heroes to people who don't stay together and fall for obvious bait.
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>>196212401
its balanced. don't cast magic on low life huskar. use pure/phys/universal.
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>>196212307
he has both

he's a crazy nigga
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>>196202757
Oh look, this autism.


As per the standard keybinds, W is the second skill.
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>>196212516
>it's balanced because you can use this type instead
Sure, that explains the massive BKB nerf!
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>>196211930

Max'd Berserker's Blood first, ult at normal levels, a point in burning spear for start, a point in Inner Vitality about level 4 then max after BB and begin putting up stats and spear afterwards.

Items were Urn at start, treads, Armlet, then BKB, Heart of T and Daedelus.

Was very fun.
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Why are dota threads on /v/ always more civilized than the league ones
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>>196212658
Because league is only played by 8-16 year olds and girls.
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normal day as invoker
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>>196212658
Because they don't have dotatards shitposting in them.
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>>196212595
bkb nerf is unrelated. please dont be offended.
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>>196212658
Because in the dota ones you don't have league players with an enormous complex of inferiority shitting things up

When people from a fanbase spend literally months babbling about "the better game" or making retarded images you know things have gone beyond basic logic
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>>196212658
>moba threads
>civilized at all
Get the fuck out, all you mobafags are exactly the same.
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>>196212806

And you got no treasure chests or anything?

I'm getting real sick of this "reward" system.
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>>196212806
>1 death
>using shitty guides
get good scrub
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>>196212621
>Skipping Burning Spears
At max level that's 140 magic damage from 1 attack, and it stacks, meaning if you get five attacks off on someone, which you will at some point, it will be ticking for 100 damage a second for 7 seconds
That's 700 damage, and that's retarded
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>>196212941
>moba
lolfag please leave
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>>196203372
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>absolutely destroy enemy team
>they act like babies about
>my team gets chests
>they get rares

Fuck Valve.
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>>196212950
"reward system"? Where?

Its fucking random drops you neanderthal.
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>>196213031

I should try that next time

To be fair it was the first time I properly played Huskar
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>>196208914
> a single hypercarry
> dota
garena shitter detected
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>>196201491
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>>196213031
also burning spears are a good outlaning tool.
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>>196205460
>mfw i only max q and ulti and put rest in stats
smart?
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Does Huskars new magic reduction reduce the damage he inflicts on himself with burning spears?
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>>196210778
>No one really likes her. I'm surprised she's still around after she shit herself at an event.
What? Like, for real?
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>>196213098
It's funny because this happens and people go all "moba is not a word, moba is retarded as a term omg"

Yet people know what it means and use it accordingly, which is all that matters when determining a word, but dotards can't get over the fact that riot coined a term for the genre

sweet sweet tears
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>>196213098
That's or ASSFAGGOTS the name. It was DOTA but then ALLSTARS2 got drunk and called itself DOTA2 so it's MOBA now.
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>>196210157
> bara
> trench

His best winrate is in very high
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Welp, this thread made me reinstall it again.

Las time I played was 4 months ago.
Any major changes?
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>>196213225
no. its hp removal.
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>>196208316
>laning lasts forever because you never have to go back
What is a Courier?
>heroes have too many passive abilities
Sniper is not the only Hero in DOTA 2, Anon.
>focus on RNG over player skill
What is Critical Strike Chance?
Also, Ogre Magi is not the only Hero in DOTA 2, Anon.
>input delay
Implying such delay is even relevant in practical terms
>Valve never holds tournaments because the game isn't competitive
Why have Valve to hold tournaments when there is a lot of third parties already doing it?
>no summoner spells
"BLOO BLOO BLOO I CAN'T FLASH OUT OF MY PROBLEMS."
>only a handful of heroes can jungle and they are limited to that
It's not like I haven't ever seen a LoL player ask for leashes
>retarded tower aggro rules
Casuals like to have their towers babysit them from offensive pushes
>no teleporting to wards
Implying it is relevant
>passive laning (focus on denying instead of zoning/harassment)
Pick Viper, then.
>random powerups can shift the game on a whim
Implying the same doesn't happen in LoL
>gold lost on death
The game is trying to teach you not to be a reckless jackass, and this is how you thank it?
>$50 reskins
You pay because you want. You can get almost everything for free through the drop system. Just like Team Fortress 2.
>retarded turn rates
Implying it is a relevant thing in pratical terms
>teleports do not break when the user takes damage
What is mini-stun?
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>>196213225
no, it's healt reduction effect, works even if you have bkb.
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>>196213261
lolfag please fuck off
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>>196213225
Well, that would be podracing.
>hurt self for 1 damage, deal 140 to the enemy
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>>196213165
It's mainly effective for picking people off, because if you catch someone out of position A squishy support preferably a lifebreak and 2 autoattacks means they're dead, even if all you have is phase boots
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>>196213269
LoLfag please go
>>196213352
/tg/ fuck off
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>>196213304
The meta changed*

*shit which was retardedly op was nerfed, shit which was obviously op was buffed, somewhat, you know, like always
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>>196213352
are you fucking stupid?

you are not supposed o respond to b8, not with that kind of butthurt.
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>>196212595
Fucking stun him and he dies. NOT THAT HARD
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>>196213440
Well it's DotA, half of the shit is OP on purpose.
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>>196206031
No he's not. Most of the time you should have a Blink dagger up by lvl 11-12, and as such the extra levels in bash are way more useful.

I once saw a retard maxing sprint first, then bash, and stats instead of more levels of stun. Now THAT, my friend, is painful.
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>>196213431
Yeah, must just be some LoLfag and LoLfags are always wrong. That way we know you are right since you are always right.
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>>196213031
if you orb walk, burning spears is amazing harass early.
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>>196213247
Google "nika pooshoes"
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>>196205845
>>196206074
It's called conserving mana. Get good.
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>>196212806
I use that same build!
And I shit on mid every time.
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>>196213597
One level in bash, thn max crush and sprint, then max bash is better.
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>>196213609
Agree, does anyone else hate lol? jesus I hate lol, dota is so much better, superior game, I mean it's not lol, so it's good, it's perfect since it's only normal for a beta to have bugs, I should donate some money more to valve via compendiums, hm
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Yo, Dotags!

As a Leaguenigger i'd like to know your opinions on Aatrox.

For those who don't know, he's a severly broken attack damage bruiser.
Pic related, every match nowadays
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>>196213635
>needing to conserve mana
>when you get a skill that gives you the mana of your enemies
>allows you to cast more spells AND prevents your enemies from casting spells by taking mana from them
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>>196205630
Actually that isn't bad.
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>>196206637

>multiple outcome
>not more skill-requiring to handle than a single outcome
>retards can't deal with possibilities and prediction

stay bad
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>>196213635
>conserving mana
>your ult is 50% of your mana pool

no. i don't want to go back to the fountain everytime i finger someone.
i want to keep laning and fingering people.
hope they'll like it.
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>>196213769
> no mana
> infinite sustain
> aoe cc
> gap closer
> onhit effect

yep its league of legends
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>>196206174
>not being atheist or at least agnostic
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>>196213769
He's a takeoff of Maliken from HoN, it's the exact same shit except his ult isn't nearly as fun to use
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>>196213907
difference between athiest and antitheist
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>>196213827
>retards can't deal with possibilities and prediction

But that's what skillshots do in LoL, only that it's a completely skill based system with 0 luck, unlike dota
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>>196213769
Maliken ripoff.
He's Maliken w/o punishments oh my fucking god his W is fucking broken
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>>196213954
> skillshots in league
> hard to hit

top fucking lel
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>>196213769
Average ripoff character that's broken on release so you have to buy it to win games.

Basically what always happens in League of Legends.
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>>196214094
my fave was when they ripped off chipper.
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Advice on micro?
Usually have my active items on 1-6, which kind of takes away my ability to use control groups.

Any other good hotykey setup that would let me keep them?
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>>196214064
get out of that bronze league kiddo
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>>196214151
>Usually have my active items on 1-6
ZXCVB and Space

Fixed.
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>>196214094
True.
>>196214151
My items are binded on alt+QWEASD
I don't know about other setups.
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>>196213352
>It's not like I haven't ever seen a LoL player ask for leashes
I play both but only a fuckwit is too blind to see they ask for this because it provides them with a healthy start, they don't require it to actually jungle. Most champs can actually do an entire route to 4 in the jungle without backing.
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>>196214151
zxcv space m4 or 5 is good. or the hon setup of alt+ q w e r d f.

use tab and hero focus key a lot.
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>>196213954
>LoL
>"skill"shot
>5 seconds cooldown average, mana cost is laughable
>just use it whenever you feel like it and call it poking

I'm so glad I switched from LoL.
Didn't spend a dime on it so it was much easier for me. Had around ~1200 games. Maybe everyone is so hard pressed to switch because
>muh hundreds of dollars spent in skins and ip boosts
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nice game lolfags
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how does anyone play with the legacy keys
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>>196213631

I google'd it and got some youtube link on Mobafire that was deleted because of "copyright infringement".

Is there any other links?
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Why is nobody complaining about how dota ripped smartcasting from LoL? if fanbases are the same there should be a gazillion posts by now

oh wait

It's just that dotards are insecure
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>Name a more fun hero than ..
That's easy as fuck
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>>196214242
>>196214273
Seems a bit cuncomfortable.

>>196214273
>>196214261
That might actually work, thanks.
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>>196213203
>196205460
>>mfw i only max q and ulti and put rest
useless fuck.
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>>196214295

LoL ripped it from HoN. What's your point?
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>>196214212
does the game become actually challenging there?

Skillshots stop being extremely fast?

Maybe - it's a basic requirement for not being a kiddy game for retards - denying appears?
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>>196212621
That's outdated as fuck nigga.
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>>196214212

Jesus admit it, skillshots are just skillshots so that they can be blind-casted or AOE-casted, like without seeing your target for example, not because they require "aiming".

Jesus fucking moron
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>>196214151
Razer Naga comes in handy
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>>196214261
>alt+QWEASD
how do you toggle autocast
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>>196214276
>m-m-maybe if I make up abilities my point will stand somewhat

Do point me out to those skillshots with 5 sec cd

Also, I love how everything is spammable in lol right? why is securing blue buff important though? oh right, they arent and you are full of shit
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>>196208440
He does man, he really does
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>>196214212

>Leshrac
>Clockwerk
>Pudge
>Magnus
>QoP
>Puck
>EZalor
>Morphling

>Dota has no skillshots
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>You have recieved an additionall report submission to use.
What does that mean?
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>>196214492
> everything is spammable in lol right?

Yes, because your kiddy game can't be challenging or anything.

> why is securing blue buff important though

Because it gives what might be literally infinite mana?
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>>196214446
I don't use autocast heroes too often.
I right click it, sadly.
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>>196214440
>implying I'll ever switch from my logitech mice, which seem to be made out of nintendium
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>>196214532
dont forget mirana.
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>>196214532
>missing the point completely

Reread the posts maybe
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>>196214492
>why is securing blue buff important
cooldown reduced for more spam? already ridiculous mana regen improved greatly for yet more spam?

Please stop trying to defend this game, it's so shitty.
How much have you spent on skins?
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>>196213769
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfQfuQVOfZg&t=1m22s
Maliken ripoff
Blink + Damage, check
Twosided sword that either heals or deals extra damage, check
Attackspeed buff, check
Ult that gives more attack range, check
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>>196213769

Dotard who accasionaly play league. I find the concept not so bad, but

>his third hit need to be clearly visible so it can be predicted
>his ulti need timecast
>League lacks a counter-lifesteal mechanism such as AA
>his mobility is too fucking high for a bruiser
>he should be countered by hard CC
>league doesn't have hard CC
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>>196214532
What does that have to do with anything?

Dota has skillshots so LoL skillshots take no skill? That's a stretch even for the typical dota logic.
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>>196214591
But I thought your mana never depleted anyway, what do you want infinite mana for?

by the way depleting your mana even with blue buff is perfectly normal
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>>196214446
How often do you need toggle realistically?
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>>196212658
because dota isn't played by pic related
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>>196214636
>How much have you spent on skins?

Not a dime, but I don't go around spewing bullshit from the other game as if I was a marketer
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>>196214726
Fairly regularly I'd say
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>>196214704
>typical dota logic

Like "games must be challenging to play", kiddie.

Go spend money on skins for Annie while you're dancing le gangnam style ;)
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>>196214492
>Do point me out to those skillshots with 5 sec cd
Kennen and it even has no resource use.
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I like Windrunner. I love building her as a support.
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>>196209478

>no veil
>no necro

do you even evil summoner
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>>196214370
B-but iG did it!
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>>196214726
I play Enchantress and Obsidian pretty often.


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