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Good News: Redwall Game is being made
Bad News: Redwall game is being made by group of Christian fundamentalists.

Motherfuck.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/04/23/get-a-new-mouse-redwall-game-is-go-again/
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why's that bad?
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>>186738910 (OP)
I want to see gameplay footage before I judge. As long as its not another 2D indie platformer, it could be good.
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>>186739090
Have you ever played any religious games before? Gameplay is secondary to message, always.

I recommend you give left behind a try, its readily stealable anywhere. Also,

>No killing in Redwall
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>To Soma Games fans who know about our faith: Fear not! We are not making Diablo for Mice.
Dat dang Diablo with all it's satanism!
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Too bad Relic couldnt get a hold of this.

Tower defense - Relic RTS is the way to go for redwall, possibly with OP hero units
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>>186739241
>left behind
I got given that as a gift from a well-meaning family member.
In the game Rock Music is the work of the devil.
Argh.
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>>186739241
Exactly this.

You see the same things in white supremacist games. It's always low quality.
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EUUUULAAAAAAALLLLLLIIIIIIAAAAAAAAA
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i'm just going to go ahead and be optimistic for now

>>186739484
LOGALOGALOGALOGALOG
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Isn't it aimed at tablets or something anyway?

We knew it was going to be shit already.

Jacques hated video games by the way, so you're "good news" is a product of his death.
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No weapons. Just wololololololo.
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>>>/r/atheism
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First Homeworld, and now this?

It's been a rough week for games.
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Pearls of Lutra and Mattimeo master race
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>>186739660
Please, I see myself as a Christian Agnostic with Deist leanings and I dont want some wide eyed zealot ruining a potentially great franchise.

>>186739610
I doubt Tolkein would have been a big fan either.
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>>186738910 (OP)
>Redwall being made by Christians
>Bad

Redwall books revolve around an abbey and buildings such as St. Ninian's Church are considered sacred places. Hell's gates are also referred to when characters die and even if the religion isn't outright said, a good majority of the protagonists follow christian ideals and shit.
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>>186739952
Thats all fine and good, except they also revolve around sieges and heroic quests.

Thats like saying it would be fine to have a Fundie Dev make a crusades game
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>>186739718
otters don't give a fuck.
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All I wanted was a Souls clone set in the Redwall universe.

Now my vision is going to be sullied by a real Redwall game that will never reach my ridiculous expectations.
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>>186739941
>I doubt Tolkein would have been a big fan either

If Tolkien was around, we probably wouldn't have had such a fucking shit Hobbit film, and since most of the LotR games were forgettable, I'll take the trade.
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>>186739952
>game includes religious themes
>somehow this means fundies will make a better video game than someone who doesnt see it as a vessel to spread their word
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>>186738910 (OP)
Fuck everything, I welcome the nuclear winter
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>>186739241
Someone hasn't played Catechumen.
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>>186739241
>No killing in Redwall
This isn't possible while being faithful to Redwall which is what they are aiming to do.

Unless you have a source saying there won't be killing i'll stay neutral.
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>Christians coming to ruin another thing I love

Why can't you fucks leave me alone. I didn't do anything to you
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>>186740095

How ridiculous are your expactations to mine?

>Story Mode for every single book
>Part Strategy Mode where you can control units of Redwall, Salamandastron, Gousim, even vermin
>Part Zelda-style adventure where you follow the quest of the protagonist and his friends
>Free mode where you set up your own story

>Feast minigame that would make King Haralus blush

If only.
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>>186740513
Oh man I love this game. That HALLELUJAH sound when you convert a roman by shooting them is so satisfying.
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>>186740095
Closest thing you're getting:

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ghost-of-a-tale
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>>186740678
>redwall
>not christian

lel
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>>186740170
>somehow this means fundies will make a better video game
the 'somehow' is an understanding of faith and spiritual emotions/drives.

it's kinda like devs who make shooters who don't know shit about shooting in real life and devs who do. see most shooters out there vs red orchestra.

anyway, i'm somewhat skeptical as well but the whole christian angle isn't a minus unless they start changing shit like no killing and not being faithful to the setting.
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>>186740956
>redwall
>christian
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>>186740791

>Feast minigame

9999/10
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>>186741138
You have to be trolling.

Either that or you didn't read Redwall.
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Redwall is the perfect book to go along with christianity though

It's all about a group of Good Races who are always right performing ethnic cleansing on the filthy sandni- er...rats...
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>>186739610
>Isn't it aimed at tablets or something anyway?
According to the article, “PC/Mac as primary experience. Tablets as secondary. A console option is a maybe, we’ll see how it goes.”
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>>186740869
Hhhm.
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>make a Redwall game
>it isn't a war strategy game or a zelda clone

0/10 closed browser burned down house etc
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Is there a word for joy and despair occurring simultaneously?
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>>186741650
I felt that yesterday when I learned about the fate of Homeworld
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>>186741287
around vermin, never relax.
>>186740791
>you will never vanquish cluny the scourage with an epic soundtrack playing in the back ground
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>>186741650
im sure there's a better word out there but the one i know is 'bittersweet'
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Sunflash The Motherfucker had better be playable or else my money is staying in my wallet.
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>>186742103
Sounds from the previews like its an adventure puzzle game with a mouse hero

Not sure if its a new mouse or one of the established heroes
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>>186742103
"How about I club your shit"
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Redwall was never explicitly Christian but it always felt pretty religious in nature. I don't see the issue.

>>186740170
Christians write excellent literature, produce excellent films, make excellent music all the time.

I don't see why being Christian would preclude them from making good games.
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I've never read any of the Redwall books but I did meet Brian Jacques quite a few times.

I used to go swimming with my Granddad every Saturday morning as they had free swimming on and Brian Jacques used to go too. Loads of old dockers from Liverpool would go.

One time I was playing dead in the water (it was like 8 years ago so I was 13) and Brian thought I actually had drowned and started to panic.

Shame he passed away. He was a nice guy.

Pic related: it is Everton Park Swimming Baths.
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>Redwall Abbey is Impossible
> If all the descriptions of the Abbey are taken together it becomes clear that certain spaces and details run into each other. So either Redwall is some kind of extra-dimmensional Winchester-Myster-House thing, or we just have to do the best we can and call it a WAG.

I never really noticed, I guess it's good that they took enough time paying attention to detail for this to be a thing.
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>>186742395
>produce excellent films

Yeah, Passion of the Christ was so fucking ama- Oh... Wait...
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>>186738910 (OP)
>Redwall game is being made by group of Christian fundamentalists.

Oh hells nah. I ain't touching that shit with a 50 foot pole.
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>>186742483
Are you being sarcastic?

Passion of the Christ was an amazing movie, I'm not even religious.
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>>186742547
You're thinking of The Last Temptation of Christ.

Either that, or you're an idiot.
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>>186738910 (OP)
>christian fundamentalists
Unless they intend to blaspheme by suggesting that Jesus loves soulless animals contrary to dogma, they'd better keep their beliefs out of their game development.
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>>186742547
>Passion of the Christ was an amazing movie
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>>186742547
It was gratuitously violent beyond any meaningful purpose, beyond even the point of tastelessness.
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>>186742547
I agree. Probably one of the best snuff films I've ever watched.
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OP
what the fuck
ive read each of the first 8 books twice myself
and this is the worst news ive seen on here since i first beheld anita sarkesian

HIS ESTATE SHOULD SUE THEM INTO OBLIVION


fucking hell fuck
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https://www.youtube.com/user/somagames?feature=watch

The only thing Soma Games seems to have actually released is just tablet games.
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>Dark Souls/Monster Hunter clone
>create a custom character Mouse/Otter/Mole/Squirrel/Badger
>mice are all rounder types
>otters can use waterways other species can't access as travel shortcuts
>moles can speak to inflict confusion on enemies
>squirrels have high mobility and a wide selection of dodges and jumps for specific situations
>Badgers are slow and huge targets, but can wield two handed weapons in one
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>>186742719
pic related

>>186742841
There were people crying and shaking in religious ecstasy where I saw it. They were clearly fat nigger bitches with no education
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There's been one in development for ages. It's called Overgrowth
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>>186738910 (OP)
>Redwall game is being made by group of Christian fundamentalists
Who gives a shit if it turns out to be good? How old are you OP?
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>>186742690
No, but Last Temptation was great as well, though. Both showed the two different perspectives on the crucifixion that main differ between Catholics and Protestants, with Last Temptation being the more Catholic view, emphasizing the mysticism of the resurrection, and Passion being the more Protestant view (despite Gibson being Catholic) that emphasizes the worldly suffering of Jesus

Sorry you're an utter pleb, Passion of the Christ was moving and well made. Brought some perspective on the religious beliefs of approximately 1/3rd of the entire human population.

Only edgy /r/atheism types would believe otherwise.
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>>186742989
Old enough to know that no christian game ever turns out good, ever (30)
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>>186742976
>can't play as a hare and join the patrol

shit idea/10
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>>186743007
See
>>186742979
>>186742841
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pirate rats should be YOLO parodies
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>>186742976
>moles can speak to inflict confusion on enemies
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>>186742395
its not that they are christian, many game makers are christian. its that they are a group who are "making games that will be founded upon, and informed by Christian thought". this puts an incredible amount of restrictions on what goes against their christian foundations. Example: no killing. redwall was full of killing, dealing with the pain of lost loved ones was often a very strong theme in the books, as was the violence and risk in living in the redwall world. These are both completely gone.
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>>186743092
That's just overgrowth. Though redwall overgrowth would be fucking awesome.
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>OP image is from tumblr
>implying anyone but furfags cares about redwall

get out
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>>186743007
>Only edgy /r/atheism types would believe otherwise.

epic b8
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What is special about redwall except that they're animals?
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>>186743092
Hare's special ability is being shit for fags
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>Food is Essential
>This might sound like a strange detail to include here but the feasts of Redwall are legendary and many fans have made it clear – a Redwall without some significant attention to food is an Epic Fail. We hear you. Who’s up for a ‘make me a sandwich’ mini-game?
What the fuck am I reading.

Also Mount and Blade: Warband mod for Redwall when.
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>>186743229
Its the first google image of the book
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>>186743007
>Brought some perspective on the religious beliefs of approximately 1/3rd of the entire human population.

That approximately 1/3 of the entire human population is fucking retarded?
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>>186740513
#4christ
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>Matthias, I am that is, my sword shall wield for me.

Getting chills. Haven't read that book for over 10 years and I still know the words.

Downloading.
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>>186742853
Yeah fuckin xtians fucking torture porn right /b/ro?

>>186742841
Are you serious? Violent beyond purpose?
How could it be, when the purpose of the death of Jesus Christ from a theological point of view is to wipe away the sins of every man woman and child to have lived before or after? The violence served to illustrate his sacrifice.

To have inflicted upon you one of the most painful punishments possible, and then to feel abandoned by God in your darkest hour, that was the suffering of Jesus Christ from a Christian perspective. Only suffering of such enormity could atone for such a heavy debt as the sins of mankind.

Frankly, it's like saying Schindler's List was disturbing beyond any meaningful purpose.
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>>186743316
>epic fail
>make me a sandwich minigame
i dont even fucking know man
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>>186743253
Clearly you haven't read the redwall books. It's an inspiring tale about different european ethni-I mean good animals working together to vanquish the mud race- I mean vermin.

Also several pages about food per book.
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>>186743052
I'm a wizard as well, Darklands draws heavily from the Christian lore and the magic system is based on faith and the various figures of saints, it's an amazing fucking game.
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>>186743674
>186743674
>mfw thinking about the food and booze in Redwall
There's a shit ton of booze in the Redwall books. Wine, brandy, cider, beer, it's all there.
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>>186743171
People crying that a movie is so good and so moving is a criticism?

People cried at the showing I saw as well. I was moved, though for the man and his suffering, not from a religious perspective. I hardly saw this as a negative aspect and I don't see how you could.
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>>186743843
You seem like the kind of person who thought Titanic was moving.
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>>186743843
>People crying that a movie is so good and so moving is a criticism?

>People crying and being moved over something they read in a book of lies and fairy tales
>People walk out of Django Unchained because a black man gets attacked by dogs, things that actually happened, because it's too horrible

AMERICA!
I hate being a Clapistani
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>>186743219
Christians are allowed to kill, Christians just aren't allowed to murder. Besides which, there's no reason to believe that Christianity will be present in the game.

There are no acts committed by heroic character in Redwall that are not permitted in Christianity.

I really don't see where this will be a problem, they're saying it's not going to be a religious game.
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>>186744061
>things that actually happened

NUH UH

DJANGO WAS RACIST

IT DEPICTED SLAVERY WAY WORSE THAN WAS
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>>186744061
django unchained, aside from scenes where leonardo is being a hilariously evil slave owner, is a shit film
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Can you faggots try and stay on fucking topic for once.
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>>186744061
Do you hate animals? Dogs hating black people isn't something that was due to slavery. They still hate black people.
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/v/, I have a question.

Why are Christians so adamant on making a game that has little to no violence despite their book talking about murders, decapitations, plagues and other horrific deaths in almost every chapter?
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>>186744243
Considering there isn't much to say, no.

Now fuck off.
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>>186744330
Have you not read the Bible?

Who said this would have no violence?

Are you retarded?
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>>186744331
>'there isn't much to say'
>In a thread about fucking Redwall
Kill yourself.
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>>186744306
What? No. The issue with people was that a man sicked the dogs on the black guy.

I know dogs lose their shit over black people, I owned several.

Dogs, I mean.
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>>186743925
I didn't care for it.

>>186744061
>People crying and being moved over something they read in a book of lies and fairy tales
This really doesn't make you look like a discerning intellectual. It makes you look narrow minded and foolish. Ignorant as well, and I don't mean that as a generic insult. It makes you look literally ignorant of Christianity and the film and the ideas surrounding the film and how they relate to Christian beliefs.

>People walk out of Django Unchained because a black man gets attacked by dogs, things that actually happened, because it's too horrible
Nobody walked out at my screening, but it doesn't surprise me that people are more willing to tolerate the emotional pain of seeing trauma when it relates back to the most important event in their entire religion than they are in a mediocre Tarantino film.
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>>186744439
The thread is about how Christians are making a Redwall game.

I tried bringing up Redwall earlier in the thread, didn't work.

You fucking kill yourself.
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>"Soma’s Skaggs writes that initial discussions about their doing something with the license began just a couple of days before Jacque’s death."

>And involved the phrases “over my dead body”, “no, get away from me, somebody help” and “aaaaargh”.

I chuckled.
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>>186744330
/v/ whipping itself into a fury over nothing again.

Read the article instead of the thread next time. Nothing at all has been said about keeping violence out of the game.
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>>186744624
Ignorance is wrapping yourself up in a little security blanket that says if you pray to the magic sky wizard every day you get to go to happy place when you die

But if you don't do it every single day you go to bad place!!
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>christian fundamentalists

Good. They won't shy away from portraying the vermin hordes as the Jews and other mud-people races, just like Brain Jaques would have wanted.

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/bargain-book-bin-3.php
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>>186744624
>This really doesn't make you look like a discerning intellectual. It makes you look narrow minded and foolish. Ignorant as well,

Are you implying the bible is factual?

>but it doesn't surprise me that people are more willing to tolerate the emotional pain of seeing trauma when it relates back to the most important event in their entire religion than they are in a mediocre Tarantino film.
>Mediocre Tarantino film

The Passion was beyond mediocre, but it's FUCKING AMAZING to you because MUH RELIGION?
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>>186744702
>/v/ whipping itself into a fury over nothing again
You'll have to thank OP for that, since in this moment he is euphoric. Not because of any phony God's blessing, but because he is enlightened by his own intelligence.

TL:DR = OP is a faggot, but kudos for bringing this to everyone's attention anyway. Always wanted to play a Redwall game.
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furry shit
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>>186744701
>Joking they murdered Jacques to make a video game

..I'm not sure if this is funny or highly offensive. I'm torn.
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>>186745195
Says fucking who? You know, there was a time when we could enjoy anthropomorphic animals in our stories without some fetishist drawing porn of it...
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>>186744814
>Ignorance is wrapping yourself up in a little security blanket that says if you pray to the magic sky wizard every day you get to go to happy place when you die

You have a very simplistic view of religion.
I'd suggest starting with Lewis or Kreeft if you're interested in expanding your own knowledge.

>Are you implying the bible is factual?
No. I don't think that's entirely relevant, though. Whether or not the Bible is fictional only really has value if your main goal is to attain Truth, which is about as vague and undefinable a concept as God.

>The Passion was beyond mediocre
Yes, well beyond it. Into good and great, even.

>it's FUCKING AMAZING to you because MUH RELIGION
Well, yes, it certainly wins a huge amount of points for being a well done and moving portrayal of one of the central events in human history. Maybe the most influential single event, though I guess that's more debatable.
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Who gives a shit if it's being made by a self-described "Christian developer"?

Why not look at the shit they've, ya know, actually produced? *That's* what bothers me. And how, they only expect to take "9-15 months" - which should give you a decent idea of the overall scope of the game.
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>>186745368
>Truth, which is about as vague and undefinable a concept as God.

Holy shit, get out. There is nothing vague and undefinable about fact. Unless you're a Christian, I suppose. They seem to struggle with that a lot.

>No. I don't think that's entirely relevant, though.

But it is. You said I'm not a discerning intellectual, and that I'm close-minded and ignorant for saying the bible is a book of lies and fairy tales. A book of fairy tales is exactly what is is. The only truth in it may be that Jesus was actually a person who existed
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBKHcMbJdY0

>>186745759
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>>186745346
Well..I'm sure someone was drawing it, we just weren't aware of it at the time.


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