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Do people who play League of Legends realize that they are killing the standards for MOBA games?
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MOBAS have standards?
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there's a standard for MOBA games? i thought only dota and lol were the only ones that were MOBA
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>MOBA
Do people who use this term realize that it is retarded?
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>>186743130

there´s Awesomenauts, Smite, HoN, the multiple chinese and korean ones i won´t list here...
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Do people who play MOBA games realize that they are killing the standards for games and RTS with their casual.
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>>186742896 (OP)
>MOBA
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>MOBA
>standards
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the thing that gets me the most about the term moba is that it has been used so much that it has become the official description for dotalikes or assfaggots
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiplayer_online_battle_arena
they even call the original dota now moba
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Does it matter what you call it? Moba, Loma, dota clone...what do you propose?

Id prefer Loma (lords management) but dont care.
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>moba games
>standards
>>>/vg/
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Why does everyone hate MOBA/FARTS games?
Why does everyone say they're casual?

Haven't they tried to play them or something?
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>MOBA
>Standards
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>>186742896 (OP)

>ASSFAGGOTS,
>standards
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>standards for MOBA
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>>186746003
I call them Laning and sieging games
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>>186743245
Did you download your Totalbiscuit and Yogscast DLC for Awesomenauts?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jhzw8Stj3rI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s--D_fuZV8A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2pTcD9DTE4

>>186746003
I like the idea of Loma but I think there should be something that emphasizes the literal towers between each side's camps.
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>>186746117
I blame the fact that it is mainly about team coordination and not individual skill.
also you get punished for other people's mistakes and people are generally terrible
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>>186746301
What about Aeon of Strife Style Fortress Assault Game?
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>>186746003
>mfw britfags call mobas lomas
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>>186746356
I have played them for some time and they can get pretty intensive, the skill does matter a lot. So does good teamwork, what's casual about that?

That said, I also play many RTSs and FPSs semi competitively and they don't seem all that far from MOBA games when it comes to competitive games.

I've come to think it's just butthurt people that they couldn't win their first match because they had no idea how to play or just people who haven't played it at all.
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>>186746117
Because they're boring. Hit jobber NPCs for 20 minutes, have 1 big team fight and a couple of ganks if you're lucky and the game is pretty much over.
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>>186746301
the most basic element is, you got a dude and you manage him (gear, skills, role) everything else (objective, gametype) is fluff IMO.
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>>186746568
but if you feed the enemy in a fps they can't become invincible.
no matter how much your teammates die in CoD 2 seconds of fire onto the enemy will always kill them.
I got raped yesterday by a clinkz who was 10 levels above me.
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>>186746889
Feeding is your team's fault.
Get a good team, work as a team.

Gank the overpowered clickz as a team.
Just like in an FPS giving the enemy a significant advantage because your team sucks is legit, so it an enemy hero being fed and growing strong. It would be counter productive to not grow strong if you do well and others do not.
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Because Riot is filled with children
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>>186747139
wow
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>>186747109
I am aware, but keep in mind that plenty of people play video games so they don't have to coordinate with other people.
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>>186747238
hahahahaha

>removing flash is toxic

Basically all you have to do is say "toxic" like it's the knew anti-fun
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>>186746576
That's only really a problem in leeg
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>Learning a hero takes time and that isn't fun
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>>186747436
Then don't play a fucking game that relies extremely heavily on teamwork?
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>>186747463
Learning is toxic
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>>186747440

"Toxic" and "Anti-fun" are terms that Riot like to use because they can't describe things in other ways
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>>186747497
and that is precisely why (or at least one possible reason) why people dislike laing and sieging games, you have to actually work together.
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Posting in a troll thread~
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>>186746356
>I'm... A LONE WULF!1
>Everione else... Is so useless!
>Why i'm so perfect?!
Holy shit /v/ and you ask why you have no gf or friends
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>>186747664
> what makes a girl? Big Boobs
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Wasn't League of Legends taken over by the company responsible for the most major of nickel and dime you for content free mmo styled games?

And then told the players the reason why they spiked skin costs was due to "Well you're getting too much for too little money."?
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>>186746117
I played LoL for a year and DotA 2 for 3 months. I regret every second of both.
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>>186747983
get good
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>>186747947
That post is true. Dota has meta, and very shitty one at that.
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>>186747903
Yes, and now that company, Tencent, is basically copying LoL 1:1 and cutting out Riot entirely
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>>186748020
I did fine. I just find them both quite boring.
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>>186747903
They got bought out by Tencent, which is a chinese company
And, surprise surprise, they unveiled their dota 2 reskin recently in china
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>>186748061
>basically copying LoL 1:1 and cutting out Riot entirely
u w0t m8?
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>>186748061
>>186748124
They have only themselves to blame for this.
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>>186748054
Any response to this, Dotards?
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>>186748124

>And, surprise surprise, they unveiled their dota 2 reskin recently in china

Didn't Riot try to convince Vietnam that LoL is DOTA 2, or some other gook country?
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>>186742896 (OP)

>standards for MOBA games
>implying they all arent shit from the very beginning
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>Saying LoL is killing the genre
>Call them MOBAS
You're just as bad.
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Can someone tell me a reason why people play any MOBA alone? I mean, they're heavily team-based and the concept of playing with 4 random people in such a game is just frightening. I don't care if I lose the round in an FPS, I can still have fun and wreck faces. But a bad teammate in LoL, Dota or whatever can ruin the entire round because enemies go into god-mode and shit all over you.

I even heard that there's a RANKED game mode for solo players in LoL. Does it track Kills/Deaths only like in FPS to calculate your rating? Even then, the inevitable mental refuse you get matched with (MOBA communities, remember) will just drag you down.
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>>186748252
I'm too tired to explain why 2+2 does not equal 5 to children.
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Yes, I do know, but my friends play it and can't into DotA2.
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>>186742896 (OP)

>game that allows quick play, deep tactics and has a high skill ceiling
>very little item buying bullshit that doesn't really add anything to the game

I'm not sure what you mean by killing the standard but these kind of games are best for people who do things other than playing video games.

What would be the point of a "perfect" game that nobody wants to play?
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>>186748387
It doesn't equal 5 to children because children tend to be taught basic math at a young age.
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>>186748346
You now realize those forum dronefags are among us.
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>>186748252
It's true that you tend to get the same heroes picked/banned a lot(Nyx, Kotl, Magnus e.t.c), but the laning and team compositions tend to be a lot more flexible than in league
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http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cxotx/maknoon_said_shy_to_1vs1_battle_on_top_betting/


IT'S HAPPENING

Maknoon going ham
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>>186748252
nobody with any sense stays for over 30 seconds in an ASSFAGGOTS thread on /v/. Go ask the same question in vg or on some forum, not here. Not here. Nobody is intelligent here.
fuck my time i out
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Do people who play League of Legends realize that they are killing video games?
FTFY
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>>186748201
They bought up riot, now they are remaking LoL under their own banner and will put down Riot.
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>>186743326

>MOBA
>basebuilding strategy games

They're different genres that require real time strategy. Actually, most games require strategies in real time. Maybe we should come up with different names for the different genres.

I wouldn't compare knights and merchants to starcraft for example. They are both strategy games with basebuilding but other than that they are nothing alike.

You wouldn't compare DoTa to Civ because they're both strategy games either.
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>>186748604
I wanna fuck n0tail
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>>186748551
>counsel member
>not knowing they are the fiercest supporters of Riot as Riot funds their tournament teams
The harder they suck up to riot the more Riot ejaculates down their throats
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>>186748749

Wait, seriously?

Got any source?
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>>186748992
Google Tencent buys Riot, its everywhere.
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>>186747672

What kind of retard would play games he doesn't like and then go onto the internet just to fuck up discussions about games he doesn't like?

Do these wastes of oxygen really exist?
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>>186748949
Male Grimes?
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>>186749195
Hi. Welcome to /v/.
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>>186748992
>RGame – Tencent teases new MOBA to be revealed at annual event

>As the owner of Riot Games and League of Legends, Tencent Games has literally a stranglehold over the MOBA genre globally. But the company is not resting its laurels in the lucrative China market, with a new MOBA game teased for reveal at its upcoming annual event.
source:
>http://www.mmoculture.com/2013/04/rgame-tencent-teases-new-moba-to-be-revealed-at-annual-event/
Basically they are going to make a new FAG in order to get rid off riot while also having something they can put up to face DotA2 when it hits China.
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>>186749242
I have a thing for baby faced bastards.
I also like his mapo.
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>>186748712
>$3000+ I've spent on RP

I've never been more glad to see someone get fucked over.
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>>186749439
Look and laugh, or weep.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2982572
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>>186749259

Thanks anon, here, have a little reward for your trouble
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>Do people who play League of Legends realize that they are killing the standards for MOBA games?

MOBA standards were never high, after all, it started as a simple custom map in a RTS game, and ever since MOBAs have become popular, RTS as a whole has been dumbed down or completely neglected and ignored, save for StarCraft II.

Thanks MOBAs.
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>MOBAS
>standards

heh
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You can't kill something that was dead from the beginning.
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Do people who play MOBA games realize that they are killing the standards for games?
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>>186749770
already have that one
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>>186748830
>Civ
>Strategy game
Top lel.
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>>186749694
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>>186742896 (OP)
MOBAs are great if you want to get drunk and rage at random people on the internet, then go to bed hating life.
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>>186749923

Got this one?
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>>186749694
I literally can not comprehend. If there was ever a reason for me to become a serial killer, here it is. I've lost faith in humanity.
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>>186750079
I really don't need video games as a medium for that.
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>ASSFAGGOTS
>Standards
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People are just asshurt that every company wants to make a FARTS game now.
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>>186750123
nope
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assfaggotbabbies destroyed RTS in general

now we have a bunch of casuals who only know how to control one unit at a time
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>>186748093

You spent 15 months playing games you think are boring and you regret every second of it?

Are you some kind of special person?
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>>186748374
LoL's ranked system only cares for winning or losing the match. That means, if even one guy in your team is bad, intentionally ruining the game or AFK, you're screwed. Then again, same applies to the enemies.
So they kinda think it will even out when you play enough games, your skill being a constant and thus bringing you to the rating you deserve in time.


And yeah, it's still completely retarded.
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>>186750125

I know a kid who pulled this shit. Someone gave him a fifty dollar best buy card, but he didn't want to buy something specifically there until he found the card section. I told him, just get a steam card. You can get 50 dollars of actual games, but no, he wouldn't have any of that and that's the enthralling story of how a man transferred the money to two league of legends cards, so that he could spend that money on skins. He chose skins over any of the games on his wishlist.
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>>186750367
who would have though that a map people played because it's an easy break from a real RTS would grow to be so big

back in the day the casual market wasn't really a thing I guess
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>>186750487
I was playing with friends at the time. It's like playing an MMO, you realize how terrible it is once you stop.
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>>186750367
>>186750631
>butthurt samefag
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Almost everyone I know plays MOBAS especially LoL.

All they talk about now is the fucking game. Apparently they never play or do anything else, all they live for is LoL. They rush home after work to play it.
That shit consumes lives and there's a huge amount of single player games in my backlog, so I'll never play it.
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>>186750367

Woah woah woah woah woah.

You seem to be implying that they are ruining JUST RTS games. More and more games from other genres have been consumed into the ASSFAGGOT contingent recently.
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>>186750720
>analmisery ASSFAGGOTS fan mad that more than one person berates him for playing one of the easiest genres ever
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>>186747238
>Flash is fun
Well who doesn't like a free escape?
>Flash is core
Why would you balance champions around an optional spell?
>Flash is second nature
WoW's changed over the years, and the playerbase adapted to it. Of course, I don't think most of those changes were for the better.
>Flash is balanced
'If someone else is using flash, you should be too' If that's the case, why not force everyone to take it?
>Flash helps the balance of the lane phase
I can't really think of any other game that gives you a free way to wriggle out of your own stupidity.
>Flash helps aggression
Of course players will be passive when they don't have a free escape, it's because they've been raised up with a crutch.
>Flash is tricky
Once you get the hang of it, there's a lot of ways to use flash in chasing or escaping, which is something I don't mind.

If Riot wants to balance around flash so much, why don't they just force it onto every champ?
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>>186750951
>so mad people like things he doesn't
Get a life nerd lmao.
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>>186750752
I know what you mean, I stopped hanging out with a few people because it's all they ever talked about and did. I'd get dragged into games with them, carry them, then get bored but keep playing because they would never stop. It gets tiring pretty fast.

>>186750972
>If Riot wants to balance around flash so much, why don't they just force it onto every champ?
Haven't they already done this?
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So are we agreed that DOTA 2 is far better than LoL?


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