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>I'm a huge faggot who doesn't mind compromising on my hobby because I'm a heathen interloper anyway and the only reason I play games or even refer to myself as a gamer is because my parent was kind enough to sate my constant whining for a game console and went down to my local franchise to buy my franchise box so I can play the latest franchises with my franchise subscription.

>I ignore any new games if they come from companies that aren't established franchises with established franchises and wait for them to become established franchises so I can finally like them despite the fact that this will in turn make the developers constantly indy and never be able to become established franchises to suit my needs of buying the same franchises over and over again


>console gamers


Why do you think the xbox360 took over with most developers? Why do you think the PS4 is now becoming a shit PC like xbox? Why do you think a Nintendo console has an internet browser? Why do you think the next xbox and PS4 and probably WiiU will adapt an app marketplace?

Because consoles are trying to become what used to be the low/mid range PC subset, and they will soon collide head on with the tablet sector and one of them is going to become irrelevent (guess who).

History has shown again that the casual variant of a market, will constantly die and change and be taken over by other forms, whereas the high end remains ever rising constant.


Is it not the console that dies every 5-6 years whereas the PC has been strutting firmly along since it's creation? What happens near the end of next gen when tablets are stronger than the next gen consoles are, phones are almost there and PC's are WELL stronger?

Enjoy your dedicated gaming boxes while they last, casual faggots. You'll soon be extinct and washed into the sea with "the everyman" forever becoming irrelevent now that your hobby is simply a "norm" that plumbers and hairdressers partake in.
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>cod sucks! it's all the same shit every year, who cares about sales i play obscure mature games for mature gamers such as myself like skyrim

>pc gaming sucks! look at the sales 20 million people play cod simultaneously on xbox 360 while only 20 play on pc!

>console gamers
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>>189133236 (OP)
PC components have changed as well, faggot. A PC from 5-6 years ago is not even close to similar to a PC today.
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> tablet sector
I really hope tablets lose out. They really are pointless, they don't even have decent games.
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>>189133236 (OP)
>irrelevent
PCfags
>History has shown again that the casual variant of a market, will constantly die and change and be taken over by other forms, whereas the high end remains ever rising constant.
You can't be serious. You know of course PC gaming is rising due to growing casual market of simple indie steam games? Or you don't?
>Enjoy your dedicated gaming boxes while they last, casual faggots.
Enjoy your not dedicated gaming box casual faggot.
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>>189133717

Tablets will take over consoles. They have to. Market trends never lie. Desktops and enthusiast gear will always be around because it needs to be to sustain the constant tech growth.

Whatever the low end / casual tech is in a cycle always gets replaced by the new thing. It's why the consoles in the next run will fail: because they're going to do what Atari did and try to hamstring in the old with the new and just suck at everything (put tablets/touchpads in gaming consoles that are much worse than actual tablet tech and also gimp the hardware because of the expense: see: wiiu)

PS4 will fail because it's just current gen 2.0. WiiU at least tried to see the winds of change and direct their sails.

Microsoft will probably come out on top because of their shitty phone/windows/app thing already existing.

The real thing that will happen though is Apple or Google will move into the gaming sector purely by default just simply because their hardware can do it. Technically, Apple has allready overtaken console gaming, if you look at the numbers in both sales and play figures.

It's only a matter of time until fully fledged titles start being made for more serious apple/android hardware.

by the end of 2014, NO next gen console, Wiiu, xbox or PS4 will be selling well.
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>>189133236 (OP)
>Is it not the console that dies every 5-6 years whereas the PC has been strutting firmly along since it's creation?
Because they don't have an open architecture you idiot? Do you still using the same PC from 2000?
>What happens near the end of next gen when tablets are stronger than the next gen consoles are, phones are almost there.
Show me then smartphone games that looks better then console games.
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>>189134303
>Tablets will take over consoles. They have to.
PCfags wet dreaming again.
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>>189134550
You think we WANT something even shittier than consoles to win?
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Not to mention Apple products seem to have the same social antistigma that things like Marshall, Gibson, Ferrarri and etc have: People do not mind paying the price.

This is why Apple will win. They could release simply a macbook without a screen or keyboard, that simply connects to the TV and uses ipads/iphones/controllers and such to interface with and sell it for 1000 dollars and stomp all over whatevers in the next xbox and PS4 simply because they can. People will pay that price.

Go into any next gen console talk thread and see people not even willing to put up the money for a WiiU....

Apple sadly has this shit by the balls. It's really not long now. The only thing that could counter is if google/sammy teamed up and did it first.

Microsoft will try it with the next xbox, but fail because it's just trying to be too cheap and no one will pay for expensive Microsoft hardware anyway. Consoles have doomed themselves funnily enough by aiming to be perceived as cheap toys for so long.

Apple wears their quality and bullshit price like a badge of honor, and people suck it up.

Now that Steve is dead, and Cook is in charge, I'd expect gaming/living room takeover by Apple to be full mast.
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PC games are actually games. Are there any real time strategy, turn based, or persistant world console games? No there aren't because console games are toys for children instead of software for discerning people who appreciate complexity and depth.
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PC is dead already, there is almost nothing there outside of console ports & indie casual gaming which powering up PC gaming
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>Show me then smartphone games that looks better then console games.

It's actually getting pretty close. Especially when comparing it to consoles that need more then 6 years for a generation

Still,
>Playing games on a tablet
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>>189134907
>instead of software for discerning people who appreciate complexity and depth

10/10
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>>189134910
PC gaming is stronger than its ever been.

Just because there isn't a AAA game releasing every 2 weeks doesn't mean it's not doing well. It's doing incredibly well.

Don't forget, all your beloved developers were unsullied indies once. The indies of today are the megadevs of tommorow.
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>>189134858
>Releasing it for only $1000
>Apple being cheap.
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>>189134910

>fez 2 modern platforming
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>>189135207
>console gamers not all being casual
>the very hardware is sold in the same place as tampons and soft drink
>implying the games then aren't all designed for the lowest of filth
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>>189134303
>It's only a matter of time until fully fledged titles start being made for more serious apple/android hardware.
Not with hardware as it is now. People are still using first-gen iPhones and iPod Touches and just about every Android phone on the market has different hardware.

They're kinda like PC/consoles, in a way. You have the Apple devices. Fixed hardware, all running the same OS, several generations of the same base system (iPhone, iPhone 2, iPhone 3g etc) just like a Playstation. All closed systems, the average cnsumer can't reach the system's internals so the developers have a lot more security with their apps.
Then you have Android devices. The hardware in each can be drastically different, they're all running the same OS at the very core but each manufacturer has their own version they use. They're open systems which puts the power in the user's hands at the cost of developer security, piracy is quite easy for even novice users.

For smartphones and tablets to take over from consoles things will need to become a lot more unified. new iPhones/iPads will have to start coming out slower before devs can start making content for the newest devices only. Android app devs will need to start including graphics/general performance settings for the user to control before Android gaming can really take off. It's bound to happen but there are some hurdles that probably won't be cleared for well into the next generation at least and by then most people will own a PS4/Nextbox alredy and won't want to give it up for a tablet. I think the generation after next is when tablets will really take over. By that point the PS5/Nextbox360 will probably be tablets. Nintendo is already making the switch, and so is Sony as far as handhelds go.
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>>189133236 (OP)
>History has shown again that the casual variant of a market, will constantly die and change and be taken over by other forms, whereas the high end remains ever rising constant.
Such as? Trends are established by repeated events. What industries are economically comparable to video games, and which ones have followed the trends you've suggested?
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Tablets are going to replace consoles. Its an inevitability that everyone is already planning on.
Nintendo designed the WiiU's gamepad as such for a reason. Its a transition to their next console which will simply be a tablet. They're already working on adding support for IOS and Android apps.
Microsoft is planning an Xbox branded Surface tablet.
Sony's Gaikai software allows their titles to be played on any mobile device, and they have a marginally successful line of tablets themselves.
AMD and Nvidia are both making huge pushes to back distributed computing, having a server take care of all your computing needs for you. This enables you to game on any device, and drastically increases battery life of mobile devices since all they're doing is essentially downloading a stream and uploading control input.

We already have 28nm Cortex A15 devices on the market. 20nm ARM SoCs are right around the corner. There'll be another massive performance increase from ARM's V8 arch, their first 64bit design. 14nm and 16nm FinFET chips are about a year away. In 2015 the latest high end tablets are going to blow the WiiU away in CPU and GPU power. Its nearly the middle of 2013 now, and we're talking about an iPad slaughtering the WiiU in gaming performance. Within 5 years we'll have mobile devices that blow even the PS4 out of the water while drawing just a tiny fraction of the power.
The devices are powerful enough on their own, but with distributed computing theres simply no reason to ever sell an expensive box again. Tablets and a subscription to a cloud computing service is the future. This is the last console gen ever.
You don't have to like it, but you don't have a choice.
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>>189135218
>The indies of today are the megadevs of tommorow.
Sure, all these 8bit indie platformers are looking promising.

PC hardware sales are decreasing rapidly year after year. People don't need powerful PC any more to play simple casual games which are main market of PC gaming right now http://blogs.bettor.com/Casual-gaming-on-the-rise-Video-Games-Update-a174805
I can't believe you guys are proud of it. This is worse thing that can happen to video games industry.
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>>189135415

>console gamers not all being casual
Why would I deny that?
>the very hardware is sold in the same place as tampons and soft drink
Never seen that, have seen tons of 5dollar kids games for pc there though.
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>>189135694
I suppose next gen I will switch to PC, I don't want a tablet.
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>>189134858
>Gibson
Gibson guitars are handmade, and in limited numbers. They use high quality woods and have expensive pickups (try putting any type of Seymour Duncan into a guitar...you'll pay $200 for the pickups alone).
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>>189135741
Casuals have always been the main market.
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Consoles are killing themselves. Good thing too, as they are, have been and will always be shit.
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http://www.cinemablend.com/games/PC-Hardware-Sales-Decline-By-Nearly-14-54566.html
I'm sorry but core PC gaming died long time ago.
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Honestly, as a console peasant, I do hope console gaming dies. That way PC hardware will become cheap and accessible because it'll become the main platform for gaming. Also, developers will start switching to PC since it'll be popular.

Can you imagine a future where PC gaming is 50% of the gaming market? I'll join then
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>>189135961
>I never owned a Dreamcast, SNES, PS1, or Genesis
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>>189136054
>being retarded
Stop being retarded. OEM PC sales have slowed because people are purchasing media consumption devices. IE tablets.
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>>189135832
>2013
>not already a PC gamer
What the hell is wrong with you?
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>>189135415
0/10
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>>189136054
>hardware sales
lel. console hardware and PC hardware sell completely differently. you tried this before, it's not going to work
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>>189135415
Ninja Gaiden is harder than any PC game ever made.
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>>189136054
For the most part, people upgrade their computers when they break or when there's a new video game they want to play that is outside of their spec range. Specs for PC games really haven't improved that much in the past three years or so.

Additionally, its not hardware, but software that you should be looking at.
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>>189136135
>Can you imagine a future where PC gaming is 50% of the gaming market?
Yes I can imagine. Shitty casual fest & MMO for everyone. No, thanks plebs, keep this for yourselves.
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>his only form of PC hardware is his shitty dell laptop and his smartphone

Join the future already, console peasants. The information age is beginning and you're going to be left in the dust.
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>>189136162
I had hope in the gaming market, that maybe companies wouldn't so this.
I was wrong.
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>>189136160
So PC is dying.
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Let's not forget that there is a major hardware change coming right after these consoles are done launching:
ddr4 ram, stacked memory, 20nm die shrink, light integrated circuitry, optical universal cabling.....SSD's being mainstream etc

The consoles have pretty much fucked themselves. They're going to be in this wierd weird "too late and too early" position. They waited too long, and then ironically, just not long enough for the next big thing and will be outclassed very quickly.

By 2016, an ipad with light integrated circuitry will absolutely dominate a next gen console. Chips will need less transistors to outdo the performance of current tech because of the massive increase in speed of everything. Desktop GPU's will literally jump whole teraflops in the space of a year.

It's going to be an awesome next few years for everything but the consoles.
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>>189136285
I highly doubt anything is harder than IWBTG. Nice try though.
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>>189136353
>Join the future already,
Sorry I don't want to turn into PC nigger peasant.
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>>189136305
Consider this
The Wii is the best selling game console. They've sold slightly over 100 million units in roughly 6-7 years.
In 2011 OEMs sold 360 million PCs. Nearly 1 million PCs were sold per day.

A mediocre year for the PC market is better than the best ever decade for the console market.
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>>189136515
>calling the PC master race a peasant

le backwards label xDDDDD
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ITT: consolefags don't know how OEM sales work and try to deny the growth of PC gaming
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>>189136384
>I had hope in the (console) gaming market
>games run at 30FPS MAX, often drop to 10
>games render at 720p while everyone has 1080p screens so they just become an ugly, blurry mess
>the market is mostly shooters and they still require autoaim to be played properly
The console gaming market has been dead and decaying for years, if you're not playing on PC you're playing wrong. Simple as that.
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>>189136470
I Wanna Be The Guy isn't even hard, it's all about learning patterns.
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>>189136549
>xDDDDD
Le PC fanbase. Fuck, I'm out of this thread.
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>>189136631
It it wrong I miss when platformers were the main games being made?
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>>189136434
>mfw I want to build a new PC but I gotta wait til the next generation of hardware comes out
>>189136470
IWBTG is all memory and reflex, it's not a difficult game. You just need to learn it.
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>>189136147

I did own a Dream-cast, abouit 20 fucking years ago. The only game I remember was Crazy Taxi. Shallow, crappy garbage. I also owned PS1 and SNES. PCs have always been much better.

The cross platform dog sh8it of the 2000s made games go from great to shit. It will be good to get real games again.
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>>189136705
>All games are not this.
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>>189136515
>PC
>Peasant
>Most powerful and advanced machine
>Also costs more.

Nothing you said makes sense. Oh yes, I took your bait, troll.
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I don't get why console fags don't want PC gaming to become the standard.

If it does, PC gaming will become very cheap (think 400-500 for a gaming PC) and developers will develop on them a lot more. You'll get the perks of console gaming (cheap hardware, exclusives) with the perks of PC gaming (cheap software, amazing performance and graphics).

The only reason you wouldn't want that is because you're just being a drone.
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Infact, after the 20nm die shrink, it's entirely possible Nintendo will release the "Super WiiU" where the entire console is inside the gamepad as a digital only version and maybe more powerful and basically replace both the 3ds and the WiiU.

Nintendo may actually have saved themselves by releasing just a bit earlier and making the very clear move to tablet focus.
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>>189136705
Ninja Gaiden isn't even that hard, it's all about learning combos.
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>>189136751
Ninja Gaiden is all about HIC and reflex, it's not a difficult game. You just need to learn it.
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>>189136801
PC doesn't have a single company they can latch onto so there's no brand loyalty and that simply makes people uncomfortable. It's like religion. If there's no higher power, no God/Microsoft/Sony who will they follow?
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>>189133651
>A PC from 5-6 years ago is not even close to similar to a PC today.
No.
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>>189136913
Fair enough, I haven't played it. I just can't imagine it being more trial and error than IWBTG. I love it, it's a fun game and watching new players get killed by the antigravity plums is fucking great but once you learn the tricks you can just stomp through it unchallenged. A hard game will still be hard after you've mastered it.
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>>189136515
funny how there aren't any console games in the pic
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I only use my PC to pirate multiplat single player games. Before i sold my ps3 i only bought the exclusives and bf3 on it. When i get the ps4 same thing. Because Sony exclusives are great.
>Emulation on PC. HAHAHAH
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>>189136951
>People don't religiously buy alienshit and appol.
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>have a godly PC with an i7-3770k and crossfire'd 7970s
>have a 360, PS3, Wii U, 3DS (Fire Emblem version, thank you), and Vita
>even have a fucking smartphone (though everyone does nowadays)
>fags arguing over who's "superior"
Protip: I'm superior. We idorts...WE'RE superior. We have literally every option available to us, no game is off limits to us. There is literally nothing stopping us from playing a game besides our own disinterest in it.

If you spend all day on /v/ shitposting, you obviously have a passion for vidya. If you have a passion for it, you shouldn't limit yourself. Period.
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>>189136953

Not him but are you implying that a 5 years old pc is as strong as a pc today ?
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>>189135741
>Sure, all these 8bit indie platformers are looking promising.
Star Citizen, bitch.
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>>189137078
That's actually pretty good considering the left is the original PS2 version and the right is the touched up current gen system. That image actually makes emulation look good.
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>>189135415
>the very hardware is sold in the same place as tampons and soft drink
You can buy PC hardware at major retail chain stores too, you know. The ones that sell tampons and soft drinks.
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>>189136913
>HIC
What? Google shows nothing
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>>189137243
sorry meant HEC
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>>189137152
I'm not.
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Im a PC gamer but I can admit the PC desktop will go away in some way. I can see homes being fitted with just some generic hardware hub like a a HAL or GladOS thing as a home standard like a water heater or gas bottle or whatever. Some sort of power render farm that feeds to all your home devices as an intermediate phase to the full on cloud future. I think the days of sitting at a desk with a box next to it will go away but not until after it does away with consoles first. Hard fact is developers and workers need....workstations. The world runs on desktops and servers and right now trickles to tablets.
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>>189137107
>wasting money
My PC has more games than I could play in my life.
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>>189137107

>Using mommy's credit card.
>Superior.
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>>189137224
ha! ha! ... tampons.
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>>189136801
I don't get how you have such a horrible take on the history of PC gaming and the GPU market. Maybe because you're only about 18 and never actually dealt with it.
Back in the day devs wouldn't bother trying to make anything run efficiently on a low end or mid range system. They wrote sloppy, and relied on brute force of high end GPUs to get things running properly. If you wanted to play a new game you had to buy the latest $300 GPU. You couldn't sit around with a 2 year old GPU and expect to still play new games.
If there is no consistency in the market then this will always be the scenario. A bit of stagnation benefits the average consumer.
Thats a fact of reality.
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>>189136135
>Can you imagine a future where PC gaming is 50% of the gaming market?
China is already +90% PC thanks to the government outlawing consoles.
Guess what they play over there?
Same casual shit as everyone else, F2P MMOs and MOBAs, along with their own brand of TF2 clones and Facebook games.
Doesn't help that those games are also running on graphics engines from 2005.
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>>189136518
Reread my post, I already addressed this.
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>>189137332
You use your mommy' credit card too.
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>>189136434
Yeah, because the average consumer is definitely going to be able to afford all of that shit from Day 1. Get real, kid. You're talking about $5000 computers as opposed to ~$500 console.
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>>189137392
MOBAs, RTS' retarded cousin.
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>>189137536

No I only use your mommy.
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>>189137368
>mfw I played Painkiller with a computer well below the minimum specs and it still ran great despite being set to mostly high grafics
I've only ever had low-mid tier computers and the only time I ever had a problem with a game was my GeForce 2 not having hardware T&L for Frozen Throne. You're totally incorrect.
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>>189136951
>PC doesn't have a single company they can latch onto
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>>189137068
There's too many to show in that one little picture.
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>>189137392

>mfw watching a pretty damn well done commercial for dungeon fighter online in china
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>>189133236 (OP)
>>189134303
>>189134858
>>189135694

What you people do when the time comes for what you said will happen but it does not happen ?
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>>189137107

>I have the option to eat shit whenever I want

I have a 6100 (upgrading soon) and a 7970, I have a 360, PS3, and Wii yet I refuse to play them, I even rebought all the games I could on PC because the console versions are horrible, less than 30fps, can't play at 1920x1080 and of course the graphics are horrible, aliasing and shit textures everywhere, I can deal with the graphics but anything under 45fps is unplayable to me so the consoles just sit and collect dust, not to mention 75% of the consoles library "exclusives" are shooters which are course unplayable on a control after mouse + keyboard
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>>189133236 (OP)
If this image is true how come every major franchise has been "consolized", including ones that once had PC as their lead platform?
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>>189137154
>space sim
>good
EVE is free, why bother with any other black screen grindfest?
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>>189136951
No gods or kings, only man.
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>>189137669
sik burn m8
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>>189137392
>China outlawing consoles

moving to Beijing tommorow to live in the scrub free utopia
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>>189137683
>GOG
>GFWL
>DRM-free games
People use Steam because it's convenient. A lot of people don't like it so they don't use it.
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>>189136951
Microsoft or Apple
AMD or Intel
Nvdia or AMD
all those prebuilts like Alienware
>implying
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>>189137170
>Emulation gaming

Thank god i didn't sell my PS2
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>>189136434
> light integrated circuitry
This is just one of those things that is created in labs and won't reach the consumer market for decades. It only benefits things that are spaced far apart anyway.

>>189137710
Learn how to speak English, sub human.
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>>189137583

>Thinks it'd cost $5000
>Calls others kids
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>>189137843
>Microsoft OR Apple
>AMD OR Intel
>Nvidia OR AMD
All I see are choices.
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>>189137857
>Thank Cthulhu I softmodded my PS2 years ago and can burn whatever PS2 games I want.
>English Kingdom Hearts 2 : Final Mix.
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>>189137714
>75% of the consoles library "exclusives" are shooters
What?
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>>189137762
>only man
A fat man with an unfitting beard who refuses to release his own games because he can't make them worth the weight.
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>>189137748
Because it's WoW in space with waaay too much fucking depth to be enjoyed in reasonably small doses. But you already know the difference between the two.
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>>189137583
A $500 PC will destroy that console and play most games on medium to high settings.
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>>189137951
Microsoft or Sony or Nintendo

All I see are choices too.
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>>189138025
Sounds like perfection.
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>>189133236 (OP)
It's a shame because consoles should be better than what any top-of-the-line PC can offer for video games. I mean, consoles are the signatures of the industry, not PCs. They should be fucking amazing with the latest in graphics rendering technology going strictly to them on first priority.

Regardless, I think a big reason why PC got so popular around that time was because of indie games. The internet hivemind kicked in and started railing on all video games this gen, nostalgiafagging over dumb shit like casual Nintendo and JRPG stuff, and then together collectively sought to abandon playing all AAA titles (which are primarily focused on being console releases) shifting to PC because of all the low budget indies emerging on it as well as the ability to emulate old crap endlessly. Not to mention because PC is more affordable now (piracy, ridiculous digital sales, etc).
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>>189138006

How many recommended exclusives aren't shooters on console?
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>>189137392
Pwned
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>>189138065
Then why do consolefags always bicker over which is best? Consolefags follow their brand loyalty, PC gamers go for whichever is more powerful/has better value for money.
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>>189138109
I haven't seen so much wrong in one post before.
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>>189137583
top lel m80
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>>189137583
Considering the availability of HDMI nowadays, you could very easily build a $500 computer to play most games out there. Hell, all you'd really have to do is take a $400 prebuilt and slap on a $100 video card.
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>>189137710

Still using that VCR m8?

Oh wait, you aren't because its antiquated technology. Like what consoles will be in 2020

The next "consoles" will simply be tablets that you can plug into your TV to play certain vidya. It's going to happen.
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>>189137267

Good.
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>>189138109
>It's a shame because consoles should be better than what any top-of-the-line PC can offer for video games.
it blows my mind that dedicated gaming devices like consoles are outperformed by general-purpose PCs on not only graphics, but controls too. The fundamental interface between the user and the game. Why don't they have mouse+KB support?
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>>189138045
>it's WoW in space
>people still compare things to WoW in a favorable light
You shits will eat up anything, wont you? I suppose that's why Always Online and Forced Invasive DRM sold like crazy.
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>>189137857
Thank god you didn't sell your PS2 so that you could play PSP games on it?
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>>189138065
Those are broad. 3 choices.

PC, I can choose between Intel, or AMD, and then Nvidia or ATi for GPU, and then I can choose EVGA, Asus, Powercolor, MSI and at least 10 others for manufacturer for motherboard or gpu
10+ differnet RAM brands
a metric shit tonne of options for mouse and keyboard and monitors etc

Good PC's are built by choice from the user themselves. It means the machine is more personal. PC gamers get a "new console launch" every year when there's a new fancy graphics card.

It's fucking great. You must look back on your PS2 the way I remember my Geforce MX440, or my 6800GT
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>>189138173
>Then why do consolefags always bicker over which is best?
The same reason Nvidia and AMD fags bicker and bitch over nothing. Because video games make people stupid.
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>>189138312
>people still compare things to WoW in a favorable light

I was talking about EVE, you know. I was being pretty neutral about it. Learn to fucking read you mongoloid.
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>>189138223
So then explain what's wrong in it.
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>>189138278
A $300 hobo build with a Trinity APU in it will get you playing console ports at 1680x1050 on better settings than consoles use, or highest settings at 720 in a lot of cases.
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>>189138158
Demon's Souls
Dragon's Dogma
Valkyria Chronicles
Metal Gear Rising
Bayonetta
Catherine
Vanquish
Fire Emblem 4
Last of Us
Atelier Meruru
GoW
Dragon's Crown
Monster Hunter 3
Soul Calibur V
BlazBlue CS2: Extend
Tekken Tag Tournament 2
Red Dead Redemption
Gran Turismo 5
MGS4
Forza Motorsport 4
Tales of Xilla
Yakuza 4
Disgaea 4
Virtua Fighter 4:Final Showdown
Gravity Rush
Soul Sacrifice
Ni No Kuni
Little Big Planet
Way of the Samurai 4
Folklore
Journey
Dead or Alive 5
Kid Icarus Uprising
FFXIII - 2
Mortal Kombat
Resonance of Fate
Castlevania: Lords of Shadow
Lost Odyssey
ZombieU
Persona 4: Arena
Bravely Default
Etrian Odyssey
Dynasty Warriors 8
Deadly Premonition: Director's cut
Ninja Gaiden
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>>189137332
>not having a job
Gaming isn't as expensive as, say, music.
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>>189138472
>Comparing hard evidence with is better for the buck versus "hurr durr I leik this moar so is better"
>Vidya makes people stupid

So far, only you were affected
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>>189138304
>Why don't they have mouse+KB support?
Balance issues, the PS3 supports it but multiplayer games doesn't want it because of balance issues.

The only game I know of that actually have it is Dust 514, and that's pretty much because CCP doesn't give a fuck.
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>>189138570
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[x] TOLDEN SUN
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>>189138304
Gamepads aren't inferior to mouse and keyboard in all cases, namely action genres. They should have the support for them though.
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>>189138570
>Dynasty Warriors 8
Considering the majority of the series is on PC, I wouldn't be surprised if it comes to PC soon as well.
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>>189138570
Fuck you for forgetting Double Dragon Neon.
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>>189137669
Nuh-uh, you use your mommy's credit card i've seen it.
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>>189138570
>GoW
>not a shooter
What is it, anon? A space sim?
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>>189138690
PC doesn't even have Warriors Orochi 3 yet
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>>189138657
Microsoft did a trial run of KB+M support for a couple games. They also tried having PC and 360 players face off against each other in Gears of War if I recall.
The players using the gamepad got slaughtered.
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>>189138615
>Ignoring reality
>calling me the retard
Go to the official Nvidia forums and ask them what they think of AMD, then do the reverse. See what happens, then kill yourself for getting caught up in that shit and treating it like it was something to be proud of.
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>>189138803
>God of War
>a shooter
PC elitists, ladies and gents.
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>Why do you buy consoles?
>Because exclusives
>But all of those are shit
Every PCxConsole thread ever
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>>189138728
>It isn't a male power fantasy game and more of the same shit.
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>>189138862
>maximum damage control
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>>189138831
[citation needed]
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>>189138805
Also doesn't have Bladestorm.

I had to borrow a friend's XBOX and Gamestop rent it just to play it.
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>>189138862
I guess he tought it was a Gears of Wars. Can't into context
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>>189138282

So home consoles won't die but they will be in the form of portable tablets, that is different from what you people say.

>>189137901

I speak very best england, thank you.
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>>189136798
Not every PCfag have powerful PC, many have inferior one, PCfags also are pirates, can't afford games, and beg for console games constantly on this board. Yes, they are inferior peasants.
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Wait, who the fuck DIDN'T own a PS3, Wii, and PC last gen? I thought the whole shitposting consolewars thing was a joke.

Right?
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>>189138936
>be a retard
>think there's only one game that has GoW as an acronym
>get called out
>pretend others are in the wrong
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>>189138878
Pretty much have retards on both sides, just the other day some mongoloid was telling me PC only has 8 bit games as their exclusives.
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>>189139043
Considering the PS3 sold the least, I'd say quite a lot of people didn't.
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>>189138831
>The players using the gamepad got slaughtered.
What did they think was going to happen? It's like having one side bring guns to a knife fight.
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if you only own a PC or only own consoles you're a peasant, just buy both and stop being so fucking poor
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>>189138947
Not him, but it was Shadowrun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9iSzLaI9fw

And it was the complete opposite.
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>>189138947
Can't you autistic children google anything?
Real life isn't wikipedia.

http://technologizer.com/2010/07/22/microsoft-mightve-killed-xbox-360-vs-pc-gaming/

There are dozens of articles all on the same thing.
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>>189139043
Why should I get a Wii when I can emulate it in better everything ? Had a PS3 for only 3-4 vidya then it's collecting dust.
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>>189138803
This is God of War. My only mistake was Vanquish, but this is TPP.
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>>189138065
That's not a choice though, if you want to play a particular game you have to choose the plattform where that's avaraible.
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>>189139070
>be a retard
>think Gears of War isn't a shooter
>get called out
>pretend others are in the wrong
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>>189139118
But then how did they play MGS4? Valkyria Chronicles? Demon's Souls? Katamari Forever and Noby Noby Boy? 3DDGH?

Are you honestly telling me people willingly missed out on these titles?
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>>189139127
There are people not interested in playing the RTS or other strategy genre exclusive to PC's same thing for PC players who are not interested with the console exclusives.
No need to call people poorfags for not wanting to waste money.
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>>189138570
Now you have to buy 5 different platforms to have some very narrow "variety"
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>>189135834
And Apple uses super special hardware. Until you remind fanboys of all the factory worker suicides, then it's using the same hardware as everyone else.
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>>189139319
MGS4 and Demon's Souls do not make a console that's $300 worth the purchase.
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>>189137107
>you obviously have a passion for vidya. If you have a passion for it, you shouldn't limit yourself. Period.


what is money kiddo?

Have your parents not taught you the value of it yet?
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>>189139319
I did. I don't like console games, as a whole, and would have never willingly bought a console. The only console I do own, a 360, was given to me for free and I only used it for four games(Catherine, Eternal Sonata, Bladestorm and Nier).
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>>189139570
I'm 22 years old and attending college full-time. If I can afford those systems, you can.
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>>189138681
I absolutely agree, analogs beat a mouse for a lot of kinds of games. The option should be available is all I'm saying.
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>>189139319
>play MGS4
What is the point of playing MGS4? half the game is cutscenes, i can watch it in youtube just fine
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>PC

>A constant

You're a fucking joke OP.
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>>189139636
How was Eternal Sonata?
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>>189139570
I earn $3000 a month.
All of my bills combined cost me under $1000 for a month. I spent a little over $100 in gas, $300 in food. So I end up with $1500 left over per month. That's enough to buy a higher end gaming PC each month if I wanted to.
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>>189138681
FPS and TPS is part of the action genre.
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>>189139137
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9iSzLaI9fw
>that dislike bar
>That delicious mustard race butthurt
>muh KBM
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>>189139708
I really enjoyed it. I ended up playing it 3 player Co-Op so that may have influenced my decision.
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>>189139702
Yeah, is not like PC gaming exist since 1980 or anything
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>>189139463
You only need 2 - PS3 & 3DS if you want good variety, if you want more and aren't poorfag peasant you can also buy more.
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>>189139137
>console players actually really, really owned PC players.
Oh wow.
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>>189139516
You're right! It's a good thing I listed more than two titles, and those are just the ones off the top of my head that are more than worth playing.

>>189139636
>I don't like console games, as a whole
I don't get it. Aren't a good chunk of current-gen PC games also available on consoles? Dark Souls, Bioshock Infinite (if you're into that), all the GTAs, Fallout and Elder Scrolls...the only non-indie PC exclusives I can think of right now are RTSs like Starcraft and Supreme Commander and Dawn of War, MOBAs, Visual Novels and Eroge, and random indie games (some of which are also available on consoles).

Are you sure you didn't mean something like "I don't like using a controller"?
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>>189139756
You life must be pretty empty if all you can buy is food and vidya


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