But there wasn't one at all until like a few years ago.

Why the fuck is Arthas always there.

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pls go terenas

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But why?

why MUST there be a lich king?
so the scourge dont go mad and wipe out the world?
wasn't that what the lich king was trying to do was wipe out the world of the living?
how horrible of a leader must the lich king be if a bunch of mindless zombies can preform better without him guiding the?

>>175563354
Shows what you know

>>175563448
Coz without the Lich King the scourge will go out of control and kill everyone. So we need a Lich King to control the scourge and kill everyone. Because Wotlk ruined WoW.

>>175563448
Because armies are weaker when they have a leader!

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How would the Scourge wipe out the world? Wouldn't they be easier to take care of if they just mindlessly swarmed everything?

What if they just left Northrend? Surely the Scourge wouldn't be intelligent enough to make boats.

Why did they force the "there's a bit of Arthas left" despite us being told fifty billion times that there's not?

ITS BECAUSE CHRIS METZEN IS A SHITTY WRITER AND A HORRIBLE PERSON WITH NO CREATIVITY

>>175563448
Because we need an easy raid boss idea for the next expansion.

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>>175563698

I am a PROUD orc shaman. LOKTAROGAR

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>>175563780

He's become... corrupted.

>>175563697
I haven't played any WoW so I barely know what's going on with that whole thing.

Is the new Lich king just marching all the Scourge into a volcano like he should be doing? Or does becoming the Lich king automatically entail taking on Snidely Whiplash levels of villainy?

>>175564136
They aren't actually doing what? THEY AREN'T ACTUALLY DOING WHAT? AND WHAT DOES TOSH BEING CANON HAVE TO DO WITH IT?

>arthas did absolutely nothing while he was at northrend.
>when the players finally reach northrend he has two major events, that's about everything wotk content offers.

I couldn't have been more disappointed.

>>175564314

He's done nothing. Absolutely nothing.

>>175564314
No I think he's just sitting around doing nothing.

Remember when the Lich King lost hold over segments of the Scourge when Illidan used the Eye of Sargeras to damage his prison?

The Forsaken happened.

If the same thing would occur without Arthas then many if not all Scourge would gain a higher consciousness than their enslaved states of mind.

If powerful Scourge usurped dominance over overs and created mass unified armies they could probably overrun Azeroth.

Maybe.

WC3 TFT:

NOW WE ARE ONE!

WotLK
just kidding its all me! ARTHAS! MY EVIL SIDE. REMEMBER? YOU HELPED MY GOOD SIDE OUT?

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>>175564401

Don't forget how they let you use flying mounts at 77, making Icecrown as threatening as Elywnn Forest.

>you will never assault the four gates of Icecrown with the rest of your server in a massive event

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There must always be a raid boss for you to kill two days after update because your guild humps the test server to get mad elite street cred then wait 18 months doing nothing but dailies to buy pots and compare dps meters and play pokemon pet fights for the next new content patch while listening to everyone spurting off the latest shit

>>175563354

But there was also no scourge before LK.

LK predates the scourge.

>>175564437
>>175564421
>>175564401

doing nothing mind

>>175564467
>implying Metzen cares about WC1 2 or 3 anymore.

>>175564556
fuck this.
unsubbed.

>>175564467
>If powerful Scourge usurped dominance over overs and created mass unified armies
That would make Warcraft a little bit more interesting again.

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>>175564536

>>175564401

He was kinda amassing the scourge, killing all local species, building the icecrown citadel, a shitload of necropolis and things like that

Thrall is Metzen's personification inside WoW.

I kind of wish there had been a better twist. Like Ner'Zhul growing so powerful he doesn't need Arthas and discards his body or something. Anything other than the ending we got.

>>175564964

Which is why we're being forced to kill Garrosh, so Thrall can come back and sit on the throne with his brown waifu.

Yeah, don't you all remember SC1 and BW?

Aiur got completely overrun and destroyeda after the overmind died. Cause no one was there to control the zergs in a ordely manner. They became savage beats attacking every single living being, even other zergs.

That's why they always need a new lich king.

Cause otherwise, azeroth would share aiur's fate.

>>175564918

For a guy everyone implied to be a god of death now, he didn't do a very good job at wiping out life on Northrend.

>>175564492

What? Arthas repressed and dominated Ner'zhul completely by wotlk

>>175565103
That'll be Vol'Jin, Thrall is busy doing fucking nothing.

>>175565103
Garrosh was so abviously evil.

Oh and what about Jaina? Is she going evil too?

>>175565020
>Sylvanas and Jaina take a backseat to the final fight

>Why don't women complain about this
No girl ever played Warcraft 3

>>175565020
I'd like anything with Ner'Zul, that dude is badass as fuck.
Imagine if he stole body of Thrall and and became leader of The Horde again.

>>175565210
At the end of WC3 we are clearly told they are now some fused entity.

>>175565264

If by 'evil' you mean 'kills vendors in Dalaran' then sure.

>>175565221
fuck yeah voljin for world peace

>>175565376
In the novel Ner'Zul's spirit is killed and Arthas discards it.

>>175565020
You mean new lich king same as the old lich king, because static universe?

The lore is frozen until, and if, the release of a Warcraft 4.

And Starcraft 2 had a fine story, if not in perfect alignment with 1, which is to be expected after so much time between releases. Yeah it's the whole ancient evil coming back plot is so over done in games that I'm surprised they didn't just stick to the 3 sided war story since ironically enough, the simpler story would be more unique.

>>175565284
Im sorry I missed it. They don't help at all?

>>175565497
I know that.

>>175565020
>Get to the top
>Mal'Ganis is there
>Tosses Arthas' ass into a demonic portal to be sexually dominated by Sargeras
>Mal'Ganis is your final boss for ICC.

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There must always be a Deathwing.

>>175565510
They don't even show up.

>>175565175

Well, the trolls only survived because they were using their loa. They weren't stupid enough to directly attack the Wyrmrest temple nor coldarra. Storm peaks, a few bits of grizzly hills and scholazar bain was also more or less ok due to the titans creations.

>>175565391
She does that? Cool

>>175565572

FAST, WEAR HIS JAW

>>175565632
nice job blizzard.

>>175565572
>Last Defender of Azeroth - Thrall, now the Earth-Warder of Azeroth, blesses all tanks with the immovable strength of the ancient stones of the world. Reduces defensive cooldowns by 50% and increases defensive ability durations by 100%.

oh god my sides

>>175564591
That's some bullshit right there, he used the scourge as a vehicle to reach Icecrown Citadel and merge with nerzhul's armor.

>>175563642
There was a small part of Arthas holding back the Scourge's full might from destroying Azeroth. Shitty excuse I know but that's what it is.

>>175565210
>Arthas
>a bitchboy anal slave to the Lich King who was mindcontrolled and dominated for years

>Ner'Zul
>mighty shaman that pierced the veil between worlds, led the Horde to it's conquest, made a deal with Demons, survived their wrath and outsmarted them, by manipulating the living into defeating their invading forces. Tricked the bitchboy prince into giving his body to him
>somehow dominated and discarded
I never got how that worked. Ner'Zul is supposed to be a mastermind with hellish willpower and brain.

>>175565879
Because _____________FUCK YOU___________

>>175565879

Too many cooks stirring the "epic story" pot.

>Icecrown questing says he tore out his heart and now they're one combined entity
>the book by that slut says Arthas is actually the dominant personality
>ending implies Nerzhul was the dominant personality but Arthas was able to resist enough to stop the Scourge from destroying everything

>>175564354
Tosh is a side character in Starcraft 2's first episode Wings of Liberty which focuses on the Terrans exclusively.

Tosh is a "special" type of ghost agent known as Spectres. A new special ops type of agents made by Mengsks.

The universe of Starcraft has some kind of psy powers, every Ghost/Spectre has this. As does every Protoss.

Tosh has some kind of voodoo power.

>>175566143
Well the obvious explanation is that he's Jamaican or Haitian or something.

>>175566143
I knew that, I was just wondering what the context of the second part of the post in the screencap was.

>>175564401
>Northrend
>The roof of the world
>Only death to sing the tales of your demise
>Actually there's lots of trolls, bears and dragons still live here.
>Oh and Tuskarrs and Walrus people.
>Some people also.

I expected WotLK to be about going into Crypts, Necropoli and killing lots of scourge.

Not going into fucking places filled with life and Viking references.

>>175565816

What? It's a gameplay mechanic. Without it ultraxion would be the biggest pushover since patchwerk

>>175566381
It was probably about the choice seem in the SC2.

The choice to side with Tosh over Nova is canon.

Who was the Lich King before Arthas?

>>175566398

WoW has always played all its tropes straight. It's why it's so popular, because it's so incredibly banal anyone with two brain cells to rub together can play it.

Although personally I'm not complaining about Alexstrasza being there. She could bind my life any day.

>>175565632
>>175565510
well they're in the 5 man but that sucked

>>175566529
Ner'zhul

>>175565113
Kerrigan was still around though and still a few cerebrates, the player one who obeyed her in the end of BW was killed.

Kerrigan had full control of it at the end of BW, in SC2 she had Queens and Brood Mothers who helped her.

Now in HotS Brood Mothers control their own versions of the swarm.

Could you imagine how bad the story would be in WC4 after wow fuckery?

>>175565508
> And Starcraft 2 had a fine story

THE OVERMIND WAS A GOOD GUY ALL ALONG OR SOMETHING
RAYNOR LOVES KERRIGAN AGAIN FOR SOME REASON
ALSO KERRIGAN IS NEEDED TO FIGHT MR SHADOW
WRITING COMPOSED ENTIRELY OF LAME ONE LINERS
PROPHECY
PROPHECY
CORRUPTION
PROPHECY

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So you get three aspects together with Thrall (most powerful shaman), Tyrande (powerful as fuck too) and Malfurion (most powerful druid), and then some faggot-ass shitty Druid, way weaker than Malfurion, shows up and STUNS THE ASPECT OF LIFE, NATURE, AND TIME, ALONG WITH THE THREE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE OF THE WORLD, AND MANAGES TO SHATTER ONE INTO PIECES.

Jesus Christ Blizzard that's Hamburguer levels of writing there.

HOLY SHIT JAINA WAS THERE TOO.
FUCK YOU BLIZZARD.

>>175566615

Why would they ever make a Warcraft 4? WoW prints millions of dollars a month and all they have to do is make "kill 10 x" quests to keep the retarded playerbase occupied for months at a time.

>>175566529
Ner'Zul, the most badass ork to ever live. His soul was bound to that armor set by demons after he tore apart Draenor with his magic when he created the Dark Portals and tried to run away from them. He was sent to Azeroth to prepare it for Demon invasion.

>>175566749
I thought SC2's was shit.

But putting everything in caps and simplifying it as much as you can to try to make your point is pathetic.

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>mfw I had the music box and everyone would gather around and listen to the best music in the game

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbrLxr7Y4vI

>>175566615
Yes, truly awful

>>175565879

>lel strawman

Ner'zhul was pretty strong, but he pretty much took a backseat on the horde after kil'jaeden talked to gul'dan the first time. Gul'dan was much stronge than him.

Ner'zhul never outsmarted the demons. He became the Lk as a punishment by Kil'jaeden for being a pussy, trying to escape by the great nether from draenor. He was almost ripped to pieces during the attempted teleport and then K'ljaeden took the little that survived (mostly his broken mind) and made him his mind bitch.

Do you even wc lore?

>>175566479
>Thrall, now the Earth-Warder of Azeroth
>Thrall
>Earth-Warder of Azeroth

Look what I'm replying to.

>>175566398
this is spergy but tuskarr ARE the walrus people

>>175565642

Shut the fuck up Metzen

>>175566749
You forgot how Brood War seemingly never happened

>>175566773

>be grumpy because you don't like the bitch in charge of your all but destroyed species
>"KNEEL TO THE MAJESTY OF FLAME FIRE FIRE FIRE BURN FIRE FLAME RAGING FLAMES FIRE EVERYWHERE BURN BURN BURN"

Totally logical conclusion.

>>175566615
>Everything that happened in WoW was a hallucinated dream simulation that happened in another universe

>>175566932
Fenix? Who's that?

>>175566847

Yeah, he became the earth aspect since DW forsake it.

Your point is?

>>175567041
Look what I'm replying to.

>>175566381
In WoL there's 3 "choices" you can make.

First is either help insane Doctor find a cure to Zerg Virus or Fight off the Protoss so the Toss don't kill the humans.

Helping the Doctor female makes her colony people land safely somewhere and supposedly gets infested, doesn't say if she finds a cure or not (which is impossible considering the Zerg Virus.)
Helping the Toss makes the Doctor accelerate her own Zerg mutation and you kill her inside your own ship.

Second is either help Tosh who you've worked for and has helped you to free his "people" (Spectres) or help Nova who shows up from nowhere and she'll give you ghost schematics.

Helping Nova kills Tosh.
Helping Tosh keeps him alive.

3rd choice is either take out the Zerg Air Plattform over Char or take out their Nydus network.
No Air Platform = no flying Zerg in the final mission
No Nydus = No nydus worms in the final mission.

Canon choices are helping the Doctor retard, Tosh and taking out the Air platform.

>>175566773

he was kinda empowered by Ragnaros, who was stronger than the aspects

>>175567216
>Ragnaros was stronger than the aspects

>>175564401

>Illidan did absolutely nothing while he was in Outland
>Demons come through the portal and attack cities
>Find out they have nothing to do with him
>Find out they only control one small area
>We must kill Illidan because he drops loot

>>175566812
How did he lose his Kingship?

>>175566563
I know, the Warcraft fan in me cries though.

>>175566906
Euh, I forgot. My bad.

>>175567135

>zerg virus

THAT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE

>>175566773
Mang when I finished that quest I hit alt f4 so hard my rage could have lit us another star

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>>175567216

>>175567135
Why is the air platform canon? The tunnels were so much more interesting.

>>175567216
>stronger than the three aspects and the three most powerful people in the world

>you kill him with a party

Yeah RIGHT. Why didn't they just explode the world already if they're that strong?

>>175567427

Still have no ideas why they gave him legs.

>>175567590
how else would he move?

>>175567427
Nice shoulders bro

>>175566749
This.

Worst part is how parts of the story is introduced in the FUCKING NOVELS.

The time before WoL and HotS is explained in a NOVEL.

>>175567515

>confusing game mechanics with actual lore

Yeah, because it's totally obvious that a rare in pandaria is stronger than ragnaros!

>There must always be a Lich King!
Fucking stupid. But Bolvar taking the power made sense, since he could try to stop a complete rampage from happening.

>>175567515
Deathwing was going to blow up the world and now we have MoP, what's the big badass going to do in MoP? Blow up the universe?

>>175567590
He used to float around

>>175567515

With the aid of fucking Cenarius and a bunch of other dudes.

>>175567642

By those weird elemental cyclones all other elementals had

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>>175567729

He's going to remove all the daily quests, goy! You must stop him for the glory of Kezan!

>>175563771

Because the Lich King that went batshit wasn't restricted to Northrend.

See: Plaguelands. DK starting area, etc.

>>175567729
He's gonna blow up Thrall's mother

heheh

>>175567745
no he didn't he was never fully 'in' the world of azeroth.

>>175567729

Garrosh is end boss

>>175564136
Naw, bro. Metzen was just looking at Warhammer shit to rip off and saw the names Blackstone and Typhus.

>>175567135
Technically all the Mengsk stuff was entirely optional too, also entirely worthless since even if you did those missions it had zero effect on the dialog or ending because Blizzard sucks dicks.

Really the entire WoL campaign was such shit, still disappoints me. I'd skipped WoW so I'd had no prep, that was my moment of heartbreak with Blizzard. It did save me from D3 though.

>>175567776
Cenarius is a bitch I killed him in Warcraft 3

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>MoP writing
>Alliance and Horde bring their fight to Pandaria
>This awakens all sorts of dormant Sha
>Pandaren help us defeat the Sha
>Wrathion talks to us, says how much he knows, and how he sees a great threat coming
>So we gather some relics for him by defeating "great enemies" in Mogushan Vaults, Heart of Fear, and Terrace of Endless Spring and he gives us a nifty Sha-touched gem in return

ENTER PATCH 5.1

>Wrathion wants to know about our leaders, what drives us
>Wrathion wants us to earn reptuation with him by killing the other faction in a new daily area
>Wants us to cause more fighting and bloodshed after that already awakened Shas
>mfw Wrathion will turn out to be evil and Blizzard will act like it's so shocking

You know it will happen

>>175567985

You didn't kill him hard enough, bitch.

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>>175567787
the legs look cooler

>>175567427

The legs pissed me off, the whole epic thing from MC was fighting this mysterious massive ass elemental who doesn't need legs to kick your ass... But what REALLY pissed me off, was the fact they gave him fucking pigtails in his new model. Was it necessary?

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>>175568071

Wrathion is noncanon bullshit that does not exist.

>>175567329
http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Hyper-evolutionary_virus

It's true and retarded.

>>175567458
Less people died that way somehow. Also made more sense since a ragtag group of 4 goes deep into the Zerg filled core of Char and blows shit up.

Char is supposedly FILLED with Zerg.
FILLED.

>>175568071
He has an evil sounding name already.

Either way I think the worst evil is pandas anyway.

Fucking. Pandas.

>>175568134

>your now aweare ragnaros has a night elf skeleton.

>>175564136

I wonder why Blizzard is even paying Metzen to write all their shit

I doubt even the retards who like his shit stories would notice if they replaced him.


Anyone know if Blizzard responded to people complaining how terrible the writing in Diablo 3 was?

>>175568071

They won't make him evil any time soon, he's become a quick way to give legendaries without them being involved in lore, or them being actually legendary

>>175568306
Fuck that loser

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>>175568268

>the Shado-Pan are the first and last line of defense for Pandaria

So why can't we just kill them and enslave the rest?

>>175568296
>now aware
you wasn't already?

>>175568097
Well he's still a bitch I can kill him anyday now with my green pandaria items

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>>175568306

>Anyone know if Blizzard responded to people complaining how terrible the writing in Diablo 3 was?

>>175567980
Eugh I hated that part.

>Starcraft 2's lore will be so massive it'll feature several books!
>That's why we divide it into 3 seperate games!
>Out of the 30 missions, about 10 are story related to the whole.

>>175568150
he always had those though

>>175568268
>Female panda players
>Using ^_^;; and other emotions
>Try to be kawaii uguu
>Usually terrible players
>Attention whores
>Obnoxious

Truly these people are worse than HITLER.

>>175568584

Not really. He had no legs in MC

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>>175568134
>wanting his legs to look cooler
ragnaros 'sposed to be hot, man! Not cool! He's the god of Fire, ya dig?!

>>175568306
Oh god everyone in this thread forgot about Diablo 3 writing.
It was so fucking retarded. So many shitty characters. Leah?
That demon fairy stupid lady?
"Hah! We're gonna kill Cain and leave Tyrael's sword right here after this because or else the game would end and I would win, but I'm evil and the player must win."

>>175568846
i was talking about the pig tails

>>175568809
that's all female players, man

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>>175568421

The horde is too busy magically losing all of it's air support and having to build boats from scrap parts.

The alliance is too busy masturbating to their prince and having a cunt control their army with a twat so tight that when she has her period crafting gems come out.

>>175568932
At least Leah had a nice pair of dick-suckin' lips. That's the nicest thing I can say about D3.

>>175568932
>Hey guys. I wanted to warn you about the demons, so I ripped off my wings for no reason and caused a zombie invasion killing countless people. You're welcome

>>175568932

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcJ_XT3oWtY

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>Was a faggot for WoW lore
>Travelled all around the game world visiting shit that was interesting
>Later understood how fucked up everything was getting
>mfw I just didn't wanted to play anymore

>>175568418
>>175568520

Well that was while they were still riding the high of everyone buying it because of the name and paid reviews.

I'm wondering if they said anything after they realized their game died.

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>>175568932
I remember the D3 forums exploded after people finished it.

The death of Deckard Cain, a ingame cutscene.
Not even a rendered one.

>>175569046

>magically losing all of it's air support

Skyfire raped you hard

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>>175568071
wait, there's a dude named Wrathion, and it's not certain that he's evil?
Have they gone full star wars?

>>175569149

It gets really shitty when you realize they basically destroyed all the original warcraft lore.

Many people don't consider WoW even remotely canon because of this, although blizzard seems to be implying otherwise.

>>175569159
they sold 12 million copies in 2012. that's 720 million dollars. that's not counting the money they made off RMAH buys.

literally everyone could stop playing their game and they probably wouldn't give a shit.

>>175568932
>demon fairy stupid lady

That was one of the game's actually decent models, because it wasn't a fairy. If you actually opened your eyes, she flew because two giant flies held her by the shoulders, the the right one would actually slip and let go every 10 seconds or so

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>>175568846

I noticed it eventually, but they're definitely more dominant in his newer model, his old version was more horns.

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>>175569378

People love him because he spends 100% of his time as a nigger with a turban on giving people "legendary" gems.

>>175569449
And the problem itself is that Diablo 2 was still played for over 10 years.

Unlike Diablo 3 which most people quit after a month or two. They recently issued a massive banwave to botters and they're barely 50k people playing the game worldwide.

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>>175569141
>I have succumbed to your vile butterfly magics

>>175569551
Rag was tall as fuck, which is why people never saw it before. Because he's waisthigh in the firelands, it's more noticable which makes him getting up and walking out of the pit on heroic all the more interesting

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>>175567590
In the Hard mode final battle with him, the Druids show up and freeze his lava bath pool. He pretty much goes AW FUCK ASSHOLES. YOU SHAT IN MY POOL and pulls himself out of it before it takes him with it. The last part of the fight is a burn phase where you need to kill him ASAP before he re-activates his hot tub by flooding the room with lava.

>>175569714
again, they don't care. they win once you bought the game. it's not like an mmo where they have to worry about holding players for $15 a month. you play the game for 5 minutes and you still paid them $60.

one month until HotS is released

ready for more canon rape?

>>175569141
This is perfect.Act III was gorgeous.

>>175569481
holy shit