Wouldn't it make more sense to blame a shifting public taste that relegated a solid game to "niche" status, combined with a warped corporate structure that views "niche" as meaning "must pander to casuals"?

>blame the devs and not the publisher that severely limited their budget and time and gave them an unrealistic goal!

>>173336280 (OP)
Trish made my dick really hard in during that game.

No, I'll just blame Capcom.

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>>173336280 (OP)
This is just shit posting. Get out.

>>173336694

and yet /v/tards turn around and support Capcom by buying the HD collection or any of Capcom's other scam titles, like Monster Hunter 3D-Extra-Super Ultimate (now with HD N64 graphics!)

/v/ just wants to blame Tameem so they don't feel like hypocrites when they keep buying Crapcom titles

>>173336694
This.

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Behold, the game that killed the Devil May Cry franchise for good.

This piece of shit was unforgivable.

If you need someone to blame for DmC, blame the creators of DMC 2.

I agree. The combat in Dante's parts doesn't excuse the entire train wreck.

>>173336908
Supporting DmC would keep the franchise alive, but also make Capcom think that the reboot was the right direction to go
Not supporting DmC or Capcom meant the death of the series, reboots or otherwise.

Obviously, neither are good, so a large group in /v/ decided to buy the HD Collection to show that fans still want the old games.

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Yeah, DMC4 sucked. Well, at least the second half where you have to backtrack through everything did.

Not sure why everyone is suddenly praising it.

Does DMC1 ever pick up? I just got the Lion's seal thing broken and it's kinda boring. I've already played 4, should I just skip to 3 and be done with the series?

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>>173337463

3 and DmC are the only good ones

>>173337463
>should I just...be done with the series?

yeh

>>173337381
>Not sure why everyone is suddenly praising it.

Because le epic DmC hatewagon

I don't even LIKE DmC but all the "DMC USED 2 BE PERFECT" shit is so obnoxious and it's all lies.

>>173337038
The creators of DMC 2 are also the creators of 3 and 4.

DMC died when Kamiya left. Hideki doesn't consider any of the games to be true sequels

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>>173337463

3 is really the only good one.

and it sold the worst

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So we can all agree that DMC has always been kind of a mediocre arcade-quality hack & slash, and DmC is no worse than any of the other titles? Ok, cool.

>>173337463

How did you fare against that shadow? I had no idea what it was, so I started melee attacking it without realizing it was countering me.

I'm currently in the sewers with the faggot Death Scissor enemy.

>>173337692
>>173338016
Taken into consideration.

>>173338054
I died. That insta-death attack came out of NOWHERE.

>>173336908
>Monster Hunter 3D-Extra-Super Ultimate
When?

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>>173337381
Its because it looks so much better in comparison with DmC.

>>173338046
No, they've all been decent-good, but DmC is just plain bad. Like instead of trying to improve they just shat on it.

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>>173338046
DmC is okay Ninja Theory game and bad DMC game.

>>173339057

not really, all dmc babbies are looking through nostalgia goggles and pretending old Dante/DMC was perfect when every game has been terribly flawed

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>>173339430

>>173339430
I dunno I'm playing DMC3 for the first time lately and aside from a camera area that's a bit too small it's pretty good.

>>173340625

DMC3 really is the only good one.

The first might have been good at the time, but 3 kinda made playing it redundant from a gameplay standpoint. 4 was half a game, and I don't even have to mention 2.

DmC is a pretty decent entry in the series honestly.

>>173338740
March for 3DS and Wii U.

>>173337463
Really? I think the first game has the best atmosphere and soundtrack as well as cool enemy design. Very gothic, but that's just my personal preference, spooky castles are amazing.

Seriously, if 4 didn't sell so well it would have been the last game in the series when Itsuno left for DD. Damn you 4 for being a good well selling game

>>173347668
I feel like Lament of Innocence did the whole thing much better.

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Behold, the game that killed the Metal Gear Solid franchise for good.

This piece of shit was unforgivable.

If you need someone to blame for Rising, blame the creators of MGS 4.

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>>173349962
Behold, the game that killed the Elder Scrolls franchise for good.

This piece of shit was unforgivable.

If you need someone to blame for Skyrim, blame the creators of Oblivion.

Of all the ridiculous things to come from DmC hype threads on /v/ DMC4's sudden resurrection as a sacred cow has got to take the cake.

>first DMC is 4, love it
>go on /v/ and hear it's shit compared to 3 with shit bosses, shitty back tracking, and that angsty casual fag Nero
>play DMC3 ready for something great

>levels are even shittier, all brown and grey corridors with just as much backtracking
>enemies are putty patrol tier scythe guys or gimmicky crap that isn't fun to fight
>The only good bosses are Cerberus, Beowulf, and Vergil, and even Vergil 2 is shit
>Vergil's even more of an angst factory than Nero, and the Spiral Swords make the game more of a joke than Snatch or Buster ever did

I trusted you /v/

>>173344351
sweet i cant wait to get it
im almost high rank on tri im hoping i can get to fifty before it comes out

>>173352306
>Vergil
>angst

I don't think you know what angst means.

>>173352306
>A&R
>shit

the only thing shit here is your taste

>>173352306
>angst
>just as much back tracking

we must have been playing two different games there

>>173352306
and the only good boss in 4 is Credo.

>backtracking
>angst

please stop being retarded.

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The game was an improvement from DMC3.
Had everything DMC3 had but with better, more fluid gameplay.

It's nigh perfect, gameplay-wise.

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>>173352306
>vergil 2 is shit

Dude, just fuck off.

>>173353107
To be fair it's the worst Vergil fight.

It's easy to game his AI there.

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>>173353283
All of Vergil's fights are easy once you know how to fight him.
Doesn't make it bad, makes it challenging and fun.

>>173353283
not that dude but its my favorite fight.
i usually fight against him with rebellion and beowulf for maxium dueling

>>173352892

appart from shittier bosses and fucking backtracking

>>173352892
Apart from the story and characters not being nearly as good as in 3.

>>173353559
I thought I was the only one who did this.

>Volcano and switch to rebellion as he activates Yamato

>>173353550
>ToshiroHitsuhomoya_cosplaying_as_Vergil.jpg

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>>173353745
>characters no being nearly as good as 3
Uncle Dante would like to have a word wit you.

>>173353865
A friend watched me do that fight like that
it was his first experience with the series.
aws were to be at

>>173353657

Everything between the 2nd Vergil fight and going into hell is backtracking, and 1 had its fair share as well. Backtracking sucks but to knock 4 specifically for it is retarded when it's an issue the series has always had

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>everyone talking about having to backtrack in DMC4
>nobody acknowledging the second-half of DMC3
Nigga what?
Going through the same areas to pick up a few items, fighting the same bosses over again...they got away with it the first time, why would it be a problem in DMC4?

DMC1 is the worst DMC, imo.

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Wait, so what reasons to people actually have to hate 4 other than less content?

>>173352892
The level design in DMC4 was awful. The combat itself was an improvement, but the level design was bad.

>>173352306
Tem-ni-gru or whatever it's called isn't my favorite location in the DMC universe, it's pretty boring at times.

>>173354357
You made an excellent point until "DMC1 is the worst DMC".

I mean, it's the one that started it all.
Amazing atmosphere, boss fights, etc.

But yeah, DMC3 had its fair share of backtracking that I hate seeing people disregard.

>>173352892
Go back to the KS generals. Katawa faggot.

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>>173354648
I'd rather not.

>>173336280 (OP)
but only 50% of this garbage was rehash backtracking LELELLELE

>>173354531
Level design doesn't matter that much, considering it's essentially just a little running around between fights in a game like this.

Enemy design is better, as well.

>>173354646
I just hate the camera and how slow things are in DMC1.
DMC2 allows for wallrunning and feels a little faster.
Note that my opinion is dicked from playing DMC3 before DMC1.

>>173354357
Both had poor level design, but the repeated levels of DMC4 was at Dragon Age 2 level of bs.

>>173337306
the franchise is doomed. or at least we won't see Dante for many many years. they still put og dante in marvel vs cap com and project x zone. what do the japanese think of donate? i assume they hate him, but i've never seen anything on it.

I have a confession to make /v/

I just finished DmC and I liked it

I hope they make another one so I can continue the story and save vorgen from himself

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>>173354920
It's slower but is actually a lot harder than 2, 3 and 4.
It's harder to maintain a style level and some of the bosses are relentless.

>>173355010
>save vorgen from himself
yeah thats probably not gonna happen

>>173337381
The combat in DMC4 was a more refined version of DMC3, the biggest complaint is the backtracking, and it sucked, but the combat is what matters in a DMC game, and DMC4's was the best in the series.

>>173355127
I really like his voice actor and don't want him to die

;_;

>>173336908
>/v/tards
Get back to /b/, you cunt. /v/ is for /v/irgins, /tg/ is for fa/tg/uys, /b/ is for /b/tards.

>>173354846
No, level design does matter. Because it affects the whole game. Platforming, pushing blocks and running through corridors looking for doors is not fun. Not in an action game like DMC. That's the difference between DMC and Bayonetta.

>>173354151

except that 4 had roughly TWICE as much of it

>>173354942

3 is just as bad about backtracking and repeating levels

>>173355146
ye but it's not by much. Dante was pretty much the same as in 3 except he can change styles at any time, but obviously it wasn't gonnna be like 3 since the game is so short

>>173355385
>Platforming, pushing blocks and running through corridors looking for doors is not fun
But there was more of that in 3 than in 4.
The only time you really had that in 4 was your first visit to fFortuna castle.