I saw that picture in the old test chambers of that huge backpack like thing, and thought, "Man, it woulda been cool to try some Portal Prototypes."

I really hope they do like a dlc of it.

FUCK

Yea fuck something different, i want more XD lol cake is a lie

The one thing this gamer really wants is a game that satisfies my thirst for an amazing magic system.

>Back in 2008, when production on Portal 2 first began, developer Valve was creating a game without portals. Portal 2 was originally a prequel, set in the 1950s, utilizing a brand new gameplay mechanic that excited people at Valve.

>The concept, codenamed F-Stop internally, lasted five months until it was canned. While Valve loved it, the testers hated it. They wanted portals in their Portal 2. They wanted Chell and GlaDOS, the pair of characters that made up the entire cast of the first game.

>valve releases what people want
>instead of building a good game
>people still bitch

>>93085341
>magic
>22 and believes in magic

>TLDR: Despite what they say, gamers don't really want original content.
Drastic change is not a good thing when it takes place in the same franchise. You play game X because you like the features of game X.You buy the sequel expecting to have those same features.

If they wanted to implement whole new gameplay mechanics or remove game defining ones then they should save it for a new IP.

Also, Gabe is a jew.

What could that new gameplay mechanic be?
Freeze time?
Time travel?
Instant mutations?

Trolololololol etc.

Yawn.

>Portal
>no portals

okay.jpg

>>93085364

Nobody is bitching except the people who haven't actually played it.

And I'm glad that people in the Valve userbase feel free to speak up and point out that the purpose of a sequel is not the exact same thing. Normally you get laughed down if you point that out about a Nintendo game or something. Too bad braindead people are still the majority.

>>93085395
>does not believe in magic
bitches don't know 'bout my magnets

Imagine a game about Aperture Science itself and not just the portals. Playing as a bum participating in various inhumane tests for your $60 to fuel your alcohol addiction.

>>93085441
Cave Johnson did mention something about one of the tests using Time Travel. I can see it happening.

>>93085411 You play game X because you like the features of game X.

No. The purpose of a sequel is to either take the series in a new direction, or completely deconstruct the game and re-imagine it in the present with everything you learned making the first game.

i think whatever they tried would have tested better a bit farther away from portal 1. Like maybe in 2009, when it started to become forgotten.

>>93085613
No, the purpose of a sequel is to improve upon existing game features.

>>93085661

No, that's what an expansion or patch is for.

Does valve always employ the most casual players possible?

Every dev commentary is "playtesters couldn't complete <basic task> so we removed it".

>>93085702

Uh, no they generally never say that at all.

They normally say things like "the level design in this part of the game was completely awful and it really took everyone out of the moment, so we pretty much got rid of it and went for simplicity instead" or "some players weren't playing cooperatively and instead were running out in front of everyone, so we introduced special infected to start targeting them".

I'd like a prequel set entirely in the Cave Johnson era, but I prefer portal with fucking portals.

>>93085441
>Time travel?

Maybe the "meeting your future self" in the 1950's part of aperture is a hint at it

>Portal 2
>Without Portals
So why would they call it PORTAL then.
That seems to be the POINT of the GAME with a NAME like THAT. Ya'know the PORTALS.

Loads of EMPHASIS

>>93085686
An expansion pack is only to expand upon the original game, it seldom offers any great improvements to the games features.

I disagree with you, good sir, on everything you think about this topic.

>>93085798 An expansion pack is only to expand upon the original game, it seldom offers any great improvements to the games features.

Well, I happen to know for a fact that this is wrong, so I a disagree with your opinion on actual grounds. How's that?

>>93085789 So why would they call it PORTAL then.

Because it takes place in the same universe.

Why do they call it Half-Life 2 even though there's no science facility?

>>93085789
>Play Killing Floor
>It's not about a floor specifically designed for Killing
>My face

HOLY SHIT! GAME TITLES ARE NOT ACCURATE DESCRIPTIONS OF THE GAMEPLAY?!?!

>>93085898

Except Portal and Half-Life take place in the same universe, and your analogy is baaaad.

More 50's, really?

Bioshock made the 50's boring for me. I don't want to go back there, again. I'm already tired of the 50's section in Portal 2.

>>93085958
How about the 30's?

>>93085954

Except that wasn't an analogy.

And that wasn't a logical fallacy you discovered either.

>make a game
>name it as a sequel to a pre-existing game in the series
>except people not to complain when gameplay is different

Was it so hard to
>make a new game
>not call it Portal 2

thats so fucking bullshit

portal 1 was a indie project that was bought up

valve didnt invent it, just like they didnt invent left4dead, they bought that up too

fucking horse shit

>>93085857
It is a fool notion that you assume your grounds are any more valid then my own simply because they leave your lips.

>>93085958

Bioshock stopped really doing anything with it's theme after a couple of hours. It would have been better if they had kept going with the steampunk shit.

>>93086085

I don't believe that at all, your definition of an expansion is laughably bad and anyone who buys expansions can see that it's wrong.

I dont want creativity on sequels.
Only expansions on existing mechanics and fundamentals; and a continuation to a story.

There, I said it.

I'm too old for this shit.

You wanna fuck with a new idea?Make a new IP. Dont mess up a good thing.

Next thing you'll tell me is that you want a Judge Dredd Comic about Judge Dredd actually being a judge and presiding over courtly affairs instead of killing scum.

>>93086151
You think to refute my claims with an opinion? HA! More over when is the last time you even played an expansion pack? 5 years? 10? Return to me when you have solid facts to support your claims.

>>93085039
Well they kind of inadvertently shot themselves in the foot with Portal. I hope they work on their canned project again; it is a prequel, after all.

Well now that they did Portal 2, they could always make the game that game the way they wanted to as a Portal spin-off or something.

>>93085039
If they make it an expansion to Portal 2, or it's separate own little game, I'd buy it depending on what it would be like.

>>93086168 I'm too old for this shit.

Then stop altogether instead of shitting all over everyone else's good time.

Remember when you actually enjoyed things objectively? With few expectations? Remember when other people would start interfering with your hobbies? Remember wondering what was the problem with those people?

>>93086260

Uh, no, that isn't how it works.

See, you gave a bad definition. Burden of proof is on you, and your definition doesn't work.

>>93086075

Portal 2 is the same, all that goo shit?

Indie project they bought up.

Well with Portal a lot of people loved the humor of Glados and chell. Why wouldn't people expect to have Glados return in Portal 2? It wouldn't be the same without her. As well the portal mechanics would be expanded upon greatly, as they have been, so things are still great with the game, and Valve can use the mechanics they worked on with their prequel for a separate game that can be based in the same universe.

Time travel game? Already been done.

>>93086495

I'd fucking LOVE a Portal Zero with ALL CAVE JOHNSON, ALL THE TIME.

Except now it's canon, they had portals back in the 50's/whenever.

>>93086495

They could just go back to the making of Glados. She has a silly backstory, it wouldn't be hard to make it more interesting.

Also I don't want another Half-Life spinoff. Half-Life already barely fits in with Portal in theme and another comedy game would stretch too much.

They definitely went in the right direction with Portal 2.
It's better to do Portal 2 correctly, and then make what they were originally planing as the 3rd one or a spin-off.

It would be more helpful if VALVe actually let us fucking know what it was though, god damn, it's like EVERYTHING has to be super top secret with them doesn't it.

>>93086462
Tag was awesome.

That's really cool and all, but Portal was more of a demo for a concept game than a full fledged game. I'm actually glad we got Portal 2 instead of that, so that we have a full game that can, hopefully, be community modded for both single and multiplayer map fun.

Now they can work on that game, which sounds awesome, because another sequel would be a bad idea.

>>93086775

It can have portals too, since the lower Aperture chambers are still based around them.

>>93086419
I must argue that it you with the bad definition here, ergo the burden of proof is upon you. More over, pretty much ever sequel ever. Megaman? Sonic? Mario? Starcraft? Diablo? Any fighting game? Most RPGs? The sequel is always improving upon existing features, rarely taking the game in a new direction in anything other then story.

>>93086075
>supports indie game dev, like minecraft/ AoS etc
>gives people jobs
>actually a great game
>sequal is even better
>you still complain about it
i bet you like cod dont you

Does anyone know when the map editor is being released? Thanks

>>93086867 I must argue that it you with the bad definition here

No, you provided a bad definition as an argument and it deflates when considered against really common examples of expansions and patches. And then when that's pointed out, you claim that you want evidence from me. What you really want is an argument from me that you can pick apart, which (again) is not how this works.

Sequels are for the new. Expansions are for the old but tweaked. Deal with it.

>>93086867

You're using Megaman as an example of what a sequel would be?

You know that shit only worked because we were six, right?

And Sonic is not the same.

TESTER HERE

BEEN WAITING FOR EXCUSE FOR THIS

THE NEW GAMEPLAY MECHANIC WAS USING DIFFERENT TIMELINE VARIANTS OF YOURSELF TO ACCOMPLISH PORTAL-ESQUE GOALS

It really was fun.

Broke my agreement, I don't care. I do this for you /v/

None of you will believe me anyway and that's alright.

>Let's make a sequel to the game Portal, a game about portals, and let's call that sequel Portal 2!
>But let's not include portals

Brilliance!
If they thought it was such a ingenious idea, why not just make a new IP out of it?

>>93087388
Rings a bell...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDxX3AQHogk

>>93085039
Sauce or GTFO

>>93087464
Also, braid.

>>93087464
Or you know...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5ye6jp_iwo

>>93087388

I believe you. /v/ told me some spoilers about the Wiimote before it came out and I believed then.

>>93087569

Are you a fucking retard?

>>93087588
>Ratotar
I don't know why, but I lost it.

>>93087388
Not sure if troll, but this would make sense. At one point Cave mentioned during a puzzle that "you might have to utilize time travel to finish this" or something to that extent.

who the fuck are these retarded play testers?

So why not just rename the game, you fat fucks?

>>93085039
>Despite what they say, Valve fans don't really want original content.

FTFY

>>93087820

Probably average gamers.

There's a reason every single game's name ends in a numeral nowadays, bro.

>>93087820
Trolls

>>93087820
Didn't TF2 get playtested by the family members of Valve exployees?

>>93087569
http://tinyurl.com/3en4hfu

Could just make a new game with that mechanic, instead of replacing portals in a game oddly called portal.

Make a new game called F-Stop.

>portal game
>no portal
yeah ok whatever you say bro

>>93088010
>>93088036

Awful complaint, has already been addressed. See:
>>93085898
>>93085912

>>93088036
Obviously they wouldn't have just called it "Portal 2" in the end, it'd probably be something like "Portal: The Chronicles of Old Aperture" or some shit.

> Make Portal prequel
> 100% more Cave Johnson
> Set in Old Aperture

I would like to see this after Old Aperture in Portal2, would give the game chance to explain this whole Caroline is GLaDOS thing aswell.

>>93085411
why should they?

i mean, nothing wrong with enlarging upon the ideas in portal 1, but nothing wrong taking it in a different direction either.

saying it's 'what the public would prefer' is fairly conjectural even considering in-house testing

and why should any company do exactly what the public prefer to -expect- if they can do what the public might actually prefer holistically

>>93085789
It wasn't going to be called Portal. It was going to be called cave explorer.

>>93087820

To be fair nobody hated forward stop like what that link says, at least nobody in our group did. We did all pretty much agree that we wanted GlaDOS back though. Several of us were pretty adamant about it still becoming it's own game. Some wanted to see it used in conjunction with portals.

Mechanic name is kind of a play on Back to the Future.

I got it!
They should just call it, "Not Portal"