i thought it was meant to be 80?
i am dissapointed

>>85836401

Sucks to be you. I don't play Shittyfield.

>>85836450

CoD kid detected.

aw yeah. hopefully the jets are more complicated so not every retard can fly them

>>85836652

☑ Told

>>85836401

☑ Told MacDonald had a farm

With those 2 previous BF announcements about canceling 1943 and Onslaught for PC, I bet DICE is shitting themselves and trying to make this game actually good. Lets face it BC2 is a terrible game and it will probably never be fixed. Loads of PC users have lost a lot of respect for them

I personally am bracing for shit on this game but there is a tiny bit of hope left.

WHERE'S MY GODDAMN MIRROR'S EDGE 2 DICE???

WHERE IS IT????

>>85836401
Depends, does the AT class get stingers?

>>85837674
sitting in the garbage, go find it buddy

>we have also included a full single-player campaign and a co-op campaign

I thought they learned from BC2 that they can't do single player well? Seriously, it was complete shit.

You're forgetting the part where BF3 will have a singleplayer/coop campaign too.

Also you'll be able to drag people into cover before reviving them now.

I am very excited, but it kind of sucks that we only get the same features of the last game after 6 years of technological progression. PCs can probably handle more by now, but PC development is an afterthought for them so they just do the bare minimum.

>how does the return of jets, prone, and 64-player multiplayer (on PC) sound?

Oh cool, we get shit we have had for years now.

>"Console cant do 64 player..."

"56 player on MAG for PS3 say hello, stupid escuses made from lazy programmers, booooooo...

Looks like I'm going to have to invest in a couple of PC upgrades then.

>>85840282
>implying MAG doesn't look like a game from 2000

A console could do millions of things on screen, but it would look like shit. Think before you post.

This is just my opinion.

But 64 player multiplayer sounds way too fucking hectic unless the maps are HUEG.

I saw that Resistance 2 had that and I can't fathom how it would not be one of the largest spam fests on the planet, it's why the highest I'll go for TF2 is 24 player servers (sure it's still a spam fest, but very manageable if you know what you're doing).

>>85840543
ditto :(

>>85840784
I'm sure the maps WILL be huge, this is battlefield we're talking about anyway.

>prone
I'll pass.

>buy for PS3
>same experiences as PC

>>85840743
I think MAG looks ok, but that's not the point why it's much cooler game than other recent shooters out right now.
Having 120+ team-mates with good leaders means you can organize big amount of people to support other platoons, make some succesful flanking and punishing other company for sucking in teamwork.

>>85841087
How, Why, Source?

>>85840784

You've obviously never played a real Battlefield game before then

>>85841319
the PC version and PS3 version are the same game

>>85841466
soooooo...
source?

>>85841466

>>85841409
agreeing with this guy, 64 player multiplayer is insanely epic at good maps, you will never run out of enemies to shoot, and if the spawns are as they were in the other battlefields (not BC) then it should be great!

>>85840784

Consolefag detected

>>85836401
>As for fan favorite features, how does the return of jets, prone, and 64-player multiplayer (on PC) sound?

thats nice and awesome, but i sill miss raming a beach with an aircraft carrier

>>85840282
While MAG itself is a cool game their Devs are a bunch of faggots.

They have been quoted in saying that this type of game (MAG) would be impossible to do on the PC.

>>85841853
>They have been quoted in saying that this type of game (MAG) would be impossible to do on the PC
>battlefield clone
>imposible on PC

they really side that? hahaha oh wow, source please

Oh cool the 64 player cap and Jets are bac-

>Prone

Great more wookies i have to deal with

SOunds good, but we all know it will be laggy-forced-to-buy-one-of-their-servers bullshit.

>>85837674
>Battlefield 3 is finally coming
>He's worried about Mirror's Edge 2!

>>85841937
I wish I had the source on hand but I don't. I just remember reading it a long time ago (I think like even before MAG was released) and it pissed me off so much that it stuck in my head.

>>85837674
DICE sold it to Splash Damage who added guns and mutliplayer to it.

It's called BRINK.

>>85840784
Maybe if you actually played Battlefield 2, you wouldn't comment on such shit.

There are absolute clusterfucks in BC2 far more chaotic than most BF2 maps had, and I'm happy to get away from that kind of shit. Thirty-two people crammed onto a map the size of my dorm courtyard just doesn't fucking work.

>dice sets its sights on call of duty
omg cant waint

Return of prone doesn't sound good. I was annoyed at it's absence in BC2 at first but it really helped to minimize the effectiveness of camping.

>>85842376
>GameInformer
>Not making up shitty taglines

I bet EA wants that. I bet anyone who likes Battlefield (most of DICE included) could care the fuck less about attracting retarded CoD kiddies with the attention span of a pencil.

Although I liked 64 players and all that, I always felt the maps were too big.

64 players on the 32 player version of the map always seemed like such a sexy idea. Vehicles would be more important since 4 of them didn't spawn at a time and it would be a little more infantry focused, but not so much that it was Counter Strike Beta when they had the APC you could drive.

Just my thoughts.

>>85840784

You never played 64 player BF2. Get back to yer console.

>>85837742

What exactly was your problem with the BC2 sp?

I found it pretty entertaining, definitely better than MW2s.
Not quite as deep and intriguing as the Black Ops sp, but still... played through it twice and don't regret it.

Then again, people seem to expect "SO DEEP AND TRAGIC" Michael Bayesque bullshit with OSKAR TANGO MIKE stuff left and right, so i see where the criticism towards BC2s sp comes from.
Protip: don't take the game and its story too serious, the game doesnt do so itself.

>Battlefield 3 is the true successor to Battlefield 2. Beyond our signature multiplayer, we have also included a full single-player campaign and a co-op campaign
>battlefield
>single player
>true battlefield 2 sucessor
FULL RETARDS, DICE IS GONNA SPEND EVERY FUCKING CENT ON THE GAY ASS CAMPAIGN

DAMN, FUCK THIS SHIT
BATTLEFIELD IS A ONLINE GAME
FUCKING CONSOLE KIDS NEED THEIR SHITTY CAMPAIGNS AND ACHIEVEMENTS
DAMNIT

Yeah but co-op campaign. Co-op. I'm not going to complain.

>buy MF3
>EA SERVER CONNECTION ERROR, PLEASE TRY AGAIN
>EA SERVER CONNECTION ERROR, PLEASE TRY AGAIN
>EA SERVER CONNECTION ERROR, PLEASE TRY AGAIN
>EA SERVER CONNECTION ERROR, PLEASE TRY AGAIN
>EA SERVER CONNECTION ERROR, PLEASE TRY AGAIN
>EA SERVER CONNECTION ERROR, PLEASE TRY AGAIN


Yeah, no fuck DICE and fuck EA; I'd rather play casual hat collection simulator, at least that game fucking works.

JETS?! JETS?!

WHY THE JETS?! WHY?! WHILE YOU AT IT, ADD FUCKING AC-130s WHY DON'T YOU HUH?! THAT SURE WOULD MAKE THE GAME BALANCED AND NOT DILUTED IT TO SIMPLE DOGFIGHTS!

Didn't they say in a somewhat recent interview that they were gonna have 80+ players on the pc?

some beta footage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y5oElw20G0

>>85842769
2/10

>32
>64

Why do people insist on using index of 2? Does it make them look cool?

Ideal class system:

Assault: Assault rifles, flash/smoke grenades, heavy armour and make sure assault rifles are balanced to be the undisputed best anti-infantry weapon

Spec Ops: Carbines, C4, target painter, no armour

Medic: SMGs, medkits, defibrillators, no armour

Engineer: SMGs, AT rockets/mines that are useless against infantry, repair tool, no armour

Support: LMGs, ammo kits, heavy armour

Then have shotguns and maybe battle rifles as an option available to all kits.

>>85842942
because computers

I came,Super Fun Field 3

>FUCK YEAH

>FUCKING CONSOLE KIDS NEED THEIR SHITTY CAMPAIGNS AND ACHIEVEMENTS
DAMNIT

What is wrong with a campaign? You know the multiplayer isn't going to be garbage.

>>85842769

I'd be fucking okay with an AC-130 constantly battering my position on Wake Island while I'm trying to cap.
I don't give a fuck if I die, I'm there to have fun.

>>85842977
Why not just leave it as it is in BC2, but give medics SMGs and give assault the option of using LMGs instead of rifle + 40mm?

>>85842942
>multiple of how many ppl you can fit in a squad

dumb chimp

Told because consoles aren't getting 64 player? Isn't that how it's always been.

>>85843078
BC2 = BF Lite

>>85843041
usually devs put more time into the campaign than in the multyplayer

and it raises the price like hell

100% of the development time should be on the multyplayer

you know dice sucks loads of dick at making single player games

Support with heavy armor, LMGs should be heavy and slow as fuck.

And i hope to god medics dont get to use LMGs.

>>85842977
Better idea
>Assault
>Assault Rifles, Noob Tubes, Ammo
>Medic
>Sub Machine Guns, Defibrillator, Medical Pack
>Recon
>Snipers, Motion Mines, C4
>Engineer
>Shotguns, Anti-Tank mines, and RPG
>Anti-Air
>LMG, Stinger, extra explosives pack

Extra explosives gives players noobtubes/rpg rounds/c4
Engineer gets AT-Mines and RPGs
Slugs make a return
The only all class guns are pistols/tracers

>>85842942
>why do ppl have 4 wheels on their cars?
confirmed for being a dumbass

>>85843121
Okay, but what did you think about what I said?

>>85843227
No, I don't think this is a very good troll.

>>85843121

>BC2 = Quake Wars lite

FTFY

>>85843127
I'm praying, hoping with all my fingers crossed, that MAYBE, just MAYBE DICE have learned their lesson by now and realize that the medic should have not have good weapons. Then again, I didn't think that DICE would be retarded enough to give medics in BC2 the best firearms in the game after having seen what happened with BF2.

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[X] the matrix: retolded

>>85843280
>implying quake wars wasn't a copy of BF

>>85843226
>Better idea

No spec ops, no support, no thanks.

I don't even get mad at BC2 medics anymore (except the retarded ones on my team). I played them and found the LMGs to be not all that rape. Also 7 seconds reload is lol.

http://enterbf3.com/battlefield-3-weapons.php

>Assault rifle w/ launcher attachment
>Claymores

>>85843373
>Not all that rape
>most kill in less time than a bolt action/m16a2 dual burst
>7 second reload
>M249 which is arguably the best LMG gets 200 rounds

You can even spray with that thing, because you're accuracy gets better the more you shoot

BRING BACK BOTS FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I MISS BOTS!!! Sometimes you just want to Rambo a bunch of dumb computers

>>85843384
what source is this website using or is it all speculation?

>Sniperfield
>Prone

Whelp, I was sold until they said that.

>>85843384
>There has been suggestions that Battlefield 3 may be a MMOFPS, with 2 armies you could choose either side and do quests (battles.)

This website confirmed for talking out it's ass

I honestly couldn't give two shits.

More players =/= Better.

MAG proved this.

Lets hope that they don´t fuck up the balance like they did in BC2

>>85843384

Now Assault won't be a fits all class, especially if you get C4.
Now it actually depends on teamwork. Before you could just wait for your health to regenerate and drop some ammo.

No need for medics, recons, or engineers. You can kill a tank on your fucking own using something like the M14.
Run out of C4? Drop a fucking ammo box. It takes a while, but wait, and your health will refill too

>>85843450

I'm guessing it's speculation right now, but it doesn't seem implausible for DICE to add weapons that take 0 skill to use.

IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN. CLAYMORES AT THE TOP OF EVERY LADDER EVER.

I hope they remove the unlocks bullshit, have less permanent stat tracking faggotry and stop with the tags for knifing people.

>>85843373
I snipe with my MG36. Built-in red dot sight, AND the gun has tits.

>>85843586
this

unlocks are the biggest reason (still others) why 1942 > 2

>>85843572
The places people would hide like that were pretty obvious though and you could throw a grenade up there easily.

>>85843517

Blame the community, not the game.

>>85843586

They should just give out all the weapons like they did the Kit Upgrades in the console kiddy version of Bad Company 2. Except those you apparently have to buy.

Giving everyone everything from the start actually lets them have fun.

Jets fucking ruined BF2.

Unstoppable killing machines that could win an entire match on their own. They should have never been in BF in the first place.

>PC player limit: 64.
>Console player limit: 24.
Yeah, consolegaming is officially dead.

This is a great day, good game got announced and consolefags are mad as fuck with their BF 0.1.

>>85843586
BF2's unlocking system was completely retarded and I know they won't bring that back. BC2's system wasn't really an issue and I wouldn't care about whether they used that again (they almost certainly will though).

Dogtags are cool though, ASSUMING they actually do the right thing and give us back a real, equipable knife instead of the retarded CoD teleport lunge bullshit.

>>85843685

Don't forget the retards that put c4 or whatever when you snatched 'their' jet away. Same with helicopters.

I remember almost everyone doing this on that one map where you start on the aircraft carrier.

>>85843448

Oh man, playing BF2 offline with 128 bots and modding the game to hell was crazy fun.

>>85843781
>Wake Island
>64 player
>US
>29 players going for jet
>the other 5 have fell off due to C4

>"Unlimted" attachments, but heavier gun = worse handling
>Anyone can use any weapon
>Everyone has a "support" slot, Repairtool, Medic Pack, Ammo Pack, motion mines
>Different armors incurs penalties or bonuses to weapon handling, movement, and survivability

>LMGs, can be deployed, are wicked overpowered when deployed, but poor on the move
>SMGs, low damage on long range, but great handling, (no "visual" zoom please!)
>Assault rifles, some visual zoom, better damage on mid ranges, has position dependent sway/idling
>Snipers, have sway/idling! A bipod can be attached to reduce this, but when undeployed, it has even more idling because of weight/unwieldiness.

>>85843683
Yeah they make it shit when you start the game and everyone else does +25% damage etc., but these things become people's reason to play the game, instead of fun. Also, fuck ranks. I don't even understand the point in those.

>BF3
>Might be cool
>BF1943 cancelled to make it.

Why? Why was it so fucking hard for them to port a remake of a PC game to the PC?

I can't care about BF3 now because I'm convinced Dice look at PC gamers as scum who were only good for giving them the money they needed to get onto the console market.

>>85843781

>Spawn anywhere
>Get blown up by jet
>Spawn somewhere else
>Run for a few seconds
>Blown up by artillery
>Spawn at base
>Get in tank
>Drive for 10 seconds
>Get blown up by jet

Mod support?

>>85837474
>>85837649
Adventures in copy and paste

>>85843710

hmm nope, haven't seen that detail about the console player cap

>>85843685

>he doesn't know how to take out jets

>>85843867
>for giving them the money they needed to get onto the console market.
you don't need money to make a console game

>>85843775
What I mainly hate about dogtags is playing with my friends, then they insist on informing me that they've knifed me more than I've knifed them. Fucking fags.

>>85843781
No, that must never go. That's what makes BF games BF games.

Same with people taking a vehicle that can carry like 6 people all on their own and then abandoning it once they've gotten to wherever they wanted to go.

>>85843781

Hopefully they'll implement something to stop that shit. Like friendly C4 / explosives don't do anything to friendly jets / helis. Or not being able to attach C4 to friendly vehicles.

There's nothing more annoying that that one dick on your team with the 'If I don't get the plane, no one gets the plane' mentality.

>>85843893
>implying jet fliers don't know where every AA unit is on each map
THEY DO
MY GOD THEY FUCKING DO

IF YOU EVER PLAY AIX 2.0 THIS SHIT IS FIXED WITH ANTI-AIR BEING PERSONNAL

>>85843893

>Get in anti-aircraft gun
>Get bombed by jet

>Get in anti-aircraft tank
>Get bombed by jet

Easy as pie. I have NEVER seen someone take down a jet with a ground-based platform. Ever. Not in 5 years of playing BF2.

The only way to destroy jets is with jets.

>>85843867

Let me tell you right now, you're not missing anything with BF1943. It isn't anything like 1942, and while it was a fun game, it got boring pretty quickly.

>>85843893
>implying you could
Don't make me laugh and don't say "Pfffft, I did it wall the time, it was easy as fuck."

The AAA systems in BF2 were absolutely fucking worthless thanks to shoddy hit detection, and all aircraft had flares that refilled, what, every 5-10 seconds? Jets were unstoppable rape machines, and unless they changed how jets work in BF3, then they can go to hell with this game.

>>85843867
1943 was a shit "remake" which barely played like 1942.

Wouldn't be worth the wait at all tbh.

>>85843893
>>he doesn't know how to take out jets

Be in the other jet and hope you took off first.

>>85843973

This, couldn't explain it better myself

You need it

>>85843990

Those nostalgia goggles too tight for you?

as long as they get rid of ranks, perks and weapon unlocks.

>>85843915

You know what I meant. They started on the PC, then made a game on consoles and suddenly it's all "holy shit these console fags will eat up anything we give them lets focus on them!"

I was looking forward to 1943 on PC.

>>85844080

>Hide in building
>Heart thumping, can hear roaming jets outside
>Suddenly, there is a banging on the door
>My heart stops
>A jet bursts through the front door of the building and lets out a terrible roar
>Scream in terror

Three weeks later, a horribly mutilated body was found floating down the river. It had all the trademarks of... a jet attack.

>>85843849
>Snipers, have sway/idling! A bipod can be attached to reduce this, but when undeployed, it has even more idling because of weight/unwieldiness.

BRILLANT!

If it were up to me, there'd be no points at all, and the scoreboard would just be a list of names. Teamwork would be rewarded by being more likely to win the game. Nobody would know about your pro k/d ratio or how many times you revived some guy and got him killed again.

BOUT TIME THIS SHIT CAM OUT

>>85844207

Sounds like the jet would make a good villain in a horror movie.

>BF3
>jets
>100% of buildings and cover can be destroyed

NOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPE

>>85842521
>Not quite as deep and intriguing as the Black Ops sp

just how fucking stupid does someone have to be to consider BOs campaign deep and intriguing? goddamn.

Ya'll nig-nogs forgetting the best class system a Battlefield game has ever seen.

2142.

Recon: Spec Ops + Sniper. Option of Carbine or Sniper Rifles. Pick two: RDX (C4) or APMs (Claymores), Invisibility, Scope Buff, and Decoy.

Assault: Assault + Medic. Assault Rifles and Medical Pack. Pick two: Grenade Launcher, Shotgun, Defibrillator, Smoke Grenades, and Radar Grenades.

Engineer: Engineer + Anti-Tank. SMG instead of pistol, Launcher (Guided Missile, Anti-Aircraft, or Anti-Tank Rifle), and Repair Tool. Pick two: EMP mines, Motion Mines, Defuser, Vehicle Radar, Motion Mine Bait.

Supprt: Support. LMG, HMG, or Shotgun and an Ammo Pack.. Pick two: Deployable cover, Sentry Gun, EMP grenades, Infantry Radar, Heart Beat Detector (Quickly scanned in front of you for a short range), and RDX Shotgun-Grenade Launcher Thing.

Damn 2142 was fun.

>>85844308

FUCK
I DIDNT EVEN FUCKING NOTICE IT
AND WITH SPLASH DAMAGE BEING A FUCKING WHORE, THEY WILL GET THOSE UNDER THE RUBBLE

>>85844308
THIS

THis is just a recipe for bad design choices. Jets are going to shit all over everything, just ley they did with BF2.

>>85844331
battlefield 2142 more like 2142 unlocks

>>85844308
There'd better be underground tunnels everywhere or something.

i think it's the first time i actually said it but i'm preordering it NOW FUCK GIVE IT TO ME FUCK I WANT IT NOW

>prone
Camping and dolphin diving, oh joy.
I'm serious. Just make the maps so that ducking/kneeling is enough to take cover.

I think forcing the jets to land in order to rearm and repair could help balance it out, giving time for the opposing team to recover or to mount a counterattack. Of course, you'll say that pilots will just ditch the jet and wait for another to respawn when they run out of ammo, so I guess the ideal solution to counteract that is to make the respawn time really, really long but then that would make it necessary to add spawn protection and lock out the other team from destroying or stealing the jet.

Or maybe they should just get rid of the goddamn jets.

Are they gonna do a good job of balancing it?

I recently went back to BF2 for old times sake and damn the game was broken from top to bottom.
I don't remember noticing it as much originally except support dolphin diving.

>DICE sets it's sight on call of duty

Gameinformer sure never played BF2

>>85844308
>class with Stinger or any other anti-air missile
>make AA tanks and sites more armored only against air attacks

its not hard to balace them

>>85844443
>I'm serious. Just make the maps so that ducking/kneeling is enough to take cover.

Or do what STALKER did and have a "stealth modifier" key that when you press it while standing you walk and when crouching to low crouch.

Snipers shouldn't exist at all.

Give assault/spec ops the option of a battle rifle or assault rifle with a decent power scope instead.

You want to be a sharpshooter? Cool. But you're gonna support the shit out of your squad while doing it. No ghillie suits. No scopes powerful enough to let you count a martian's pubes.

>BF2
>Helicopter is on fire
>It's about to blow up
>Shoot it once with pistol
>Get 2 kills

>>85844308

>mfw i'll be the jet

>>85844464
just add 1942's amount of fixed anti air stations and a few fixed spawns of anti air related kits to pick up on the map

>>85844538
>still mad about snipers
Why?

I don't know about all you fags complaining about BF2, but it's still the most fun I've had in a video game, ever. If it had flaws, it was hard to notice them. Because I, you know, like video games.

>>85844621
Actually it was pretty easy to notice them while waiting to respawn after having been raped by jets for the millionth time.

>battle rifle

>>85844621
2 was a disappointment after 1942

>>85844621

I like video games too.

What I don't like is getting killed so many times by the same player the very second I spawn. Which is what happened nearly every time I respawned in BF2.

calling it now, the game will be shit if the following things aren't adressed:

- dolphin diving ( there should be a 3 second delay after going to prone / standing up in which you CAN'T FIRE AT ALL )
- vehicle whoring ( why is it so hard to have a system that only allows some classes / players to fly stuff in the first place, have a god damn pilot class that has only a sidearm or something )
- grenade spam ( why not just patch them out completely. or better, make people spawn without grenades but the class with the ammo box can refill them ( you can only carry 2, and they refill extremely slow, like one every 30 seconds )
- too easy vehicle handling. helicopters and jets should be HARD to fly
- tanks too hard to destroy. every ground vehicle should REQUIRE infantry to support it
- soft vehicles / transports are useless. make them better. make them mobile spawn points, or rather, move all spawn points so far away that using transports is actually necessary

>>85844674
Yes, a battle rifle.

A rifle that fires a full power rifle cartridge rather than an intermediate cartridge.

What are you, an idiot?

NAVY
PUT IN NAVY
I WANT THE FUCKING NAVY

DO IT FAGGOT
AND MAKE IT SO YOU CAN BLOW UP THE SHIPS WITH TRAGICALLY PLACED C4 LIKE IN DESERT COMBAT

>>85844670
>>85844723
Never bugged me. If I was getting spawn raped, my squad would pack up and start from another spawn to get a good vantage on the one getting raped. And then take it back.

If it's a jet, we'd spread out like buttah so we wouldn't all get hit on the way there.

'Cause that's how BF works, yo.

you know what I want?
MOD SUPPORT AND A MAP MAKER
if they do include battleships and aircraft carriers, I want to be able to craft a scenario where two naval forces battle each other in open waters using their aircraft and battleships/destroyers.

64 players
going prone
weapon sway
deployable bipods / resting rifles

woah doodz, welcome to the new millenium

>>85844828
Don't be stupid. Battle Rifle is an antiquated term that has no meaning anymore. The AK47 and G3 fire the same round, yet the G3 is a bttle rifle and the AK47 is not? Shut the fuck up.

>>85844974
like that one official map released late 1942 with the fixed position carriers?

god damn that was a good map

>>85845004

>AK-47 and G3
>Fire the same round

No.

>>85845051
YES!

I don't even know why jets exist. They only have two purposes, shooting other jets and raping infantry while being completely invulnerable.

What usually happened was the people flying the jets would ignore each other and just generally jerk off over the other team.

They should just remove jets or just have air strikes be an option available to commanders or something if they want them in the sky for atmosphere.

Air transport vehicles are fine.

>>85845004
>7.62x39
>7.62x51
>the same

>>85845004

>The AK47 and G3 fire the same round

Out.

>>85845004
G3 fires 7.62x51mm NATO which is a heavier round than the 7.62x39mm M1943 that the AK fires.

>>85845123
or stinger missiles, you twat.

>>85845004
Try loading a 7.62 NATO round into an AK47

>>85845004
Same diameter, different length.

G3 is 7.62 NATO, which is 51mm long. AK is 7.62 Soviet which is 39mm long.

But you are right, Battle Rifle is a bit old of term. We have Designated Marksman Rifles now that fill the role of Battler Rifles without the weight.

But I still love me some G3 in BF2.

>>85844814
>- dolphin diving ( there should be a 3 second delay after going to prone / standing up in which you CAN'T FIRE AT ALL )
You're stupid and bad at video games.

>- vehicle whoring ( why is it so hard to have a system that only allows some classes / players to fly stuff in the first place, have a god damn pilot class that has only a sidearm or something )
Makes the game less accessible, which is what makes Battlefield fun.

>- grenade spam ( why not just patch them out completely. or better, make people spawn without grenades but the class with the ammo box can refill them ( you can only carry 2, and they refill extremely slow, like one every 30 seconds )
You're stupid and bad at video games.

>- too easy vehicle handling. helicopters and jets should be HARD to fly
Jesus, you're fucking stupid. Can you imagine a meeting of developers sitting around a table talking about how they should make controls harder for people and clunkier?

>- tanks too hard to destroy. every ground vehicle should REQUIRE infantry to support it
You're stupid and bad at video games.

>- soft vehicles / transports are useless. make them better. make them mobile spawn points, or rather, move all spawn points so far away that using transports is actually necessary
If only they already had a system where you could spawn somewhere else aside from the default, static spawn points.

Oh fucking wait, you're stupid and bad at video games.

>>85844988
>Implying Red Orchestra is worth playing.

>>85845061
>>85845169
>>85845188
>>85845202
>>85845204
fuck off /k/

>>85845123
jets would be awesome, but even the largest battlefield maps are too small. player made air strikes would make me jizz, but please, if you run into the map wall if you fly striaght for 5 seconds that's not enough. also jets are way too easy to fly. jets should have atleast a lockon-type flight control

>>85844974
Maps with no land where the object of the game is to destroy the other team's capital ship would be fun as fuck.

>>85845256

He mad a blatantly ignorant statement, and people corrected him.

I don't visit /k/ and I don't know much about guns, but someone needed to correct him, and I did.

>>85845221
>LOLZ DICE CAN DO NOTHING WRONG BF2 WAS PERFECT IN EVERYWAY LOLZ XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>85845221
>look at me, i pointwhored like a little girl. fuck those people trying to patch out my dolphin diving, jets are fine, gtfo. GRENADES ARE FINE L2P. LEAVE ME ALONE, BF2 IS THE BEST GAME EVAR

>>85845256
Fuck off tripfag, I don't see you contributing anything worthwhile to the thread.

>>85845357
nice comeback bro. shouldn't you be playing black ops on your xbox?

>>85845399
you must be blind AND stupid then.

>>85844194
why play 1943 on the PC when we have forgotten hope 2?

>>85845004
You literally cannot fathom the stupidity of what you have just said. It is larger than the entire universe in it's stupidity.

>>85845437
>Suggest something everyone wants
>Agree with yourself
>Call someone a twat

Wow, really helpful. You sure showed people who know what they are talking about by telling them to not educate people when they are wrong.

Reply all you want with your mad, I'm not jerking you off anymore.

>>85845436
god you fucking fanboys are so fucking stupid it's unbelievable

>>85845051
BEST MAP IF YOU LOVED PLANES
BEST MAP IF YOU FUCKING HATED PLANES

IF YOU LOVED PLANES, COOL, THERE WERE LIKE A DOZEN OF THEM
IT WAS A PLANEFEST

IF YOU HATED PLANES, AWESOME, THERE WERE LIKE A DOZEN ANTI AIR
IT WAS A PLANESLAUGHTER FESTIVAL

>>85843384
THANK FUCKING JESUS
Specops and support classes

Its sad that we are happy for things that were a standard in 2005

>>85845548
mmhmm keep thinking that.

I NEED SCANS!! WHEN WILL THE MAG SHIP?

JETS FUCK YEAH

FINALLY A REASON TO BUY A NEW JOYSTICK

U MAD INFANTRY PEASANTS?

>>85845649
Nothing on that website has ANY citation at all so I wouldnt take it as true

Jesus christ, people need to shut the fuck up and wait around for the game to shed some light.

You're basing your assumptions off of what happened on Wake Island in BF2 when the jets fucked everyones faces off.

If they have jets, knowing todays standard of skill.. they will be easy to shoot down.

But yes, i do agree there should be a Pilot class with a pistol or an Mp5.. i think Desert Combat Extended had them.
Along with hand held stingers

Unbelievable.

A true gaming PC (the Amiga) had to be killed off just so that the US could have a chance to compete. And what did they give us?

A fucking refurbished business computer. Whoop-dee fucking doo.

And you guys actually consider it be the apex of gaming. Holy fuck are you guys young/deluded, like whoa...

Computers will always be better for games than a mere console, but an IBM compat? Really, world, really? *pff*

Godamn, we're fucking YEARS behind on where we could be because of this shit. Wake up faggots.

You want jets to be functional?

Put Stinger turrets near every base don't get jets any counter measures.

Shit is fixed.

Why the fuck do you want perfectly balanced games? You think real life war is balanced? Fuck no. A fucking jet can take out over 9000 of infantry because IT IS A FUCKING JET. Still it gets shot down by a few rounds of AA fire or a missile in the ass. You just need to hit, but seeing how everyone is complaining about BC2 headshots not killing in 1hit because they are to retarted to calculate the bullet drop I guess thats to much to ask for.

But wtf do you want? A grappling hook for every infantry soldier so he can hook itself onto a flying jet, throw the pilot out of it GTA style and take over the jet yourself?

Vehicles have advantages over infantry, while infantry has advantages over vehicles.

l2p and DEAL WITH IT

>>85845977

>implying we dont already know consoles have been holding games and hardware technology back for years

>>85846031
>You just need to hit, but seeing how everyone is complaining about BC2 headshots not killing in 1hit because they are to retarted to calculate the bullet drop I guess thats to much to ask for.

Only the M24, the GOL, and the SV-96 have bullet drop.

Everything else flies almost laser straight.

>>85845907
BC2 doesn't really fill me with hope that they'll be able to balance jets.

In BC2 helicopters are either pathetically weak and may as well not exist at all or invincible rape machines depending on the map.

Maybe commanders will get a SAM ability or something.

>>85846031
I get that you are trolling/joking but Fun > Realism

This is why the simulator genre is dying

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>>85846031
>while infantry has advantages over vehicles
but this part is inaccurate when it comes to jets

>>85846114

try sniping someone from more that 50 meters away

>>85846149
I am not trolling. I see that there has to be a certain balance, but srsly... jets dont cost millions of dollars for no reason

>Battlefield 3 is coming
>To everyone's surprise it's got a full feature-set on PC
>Suddenly everyone talking complete and total shit about BF2
>Very few constructive posts

Oh, hey, /v/.

>>85846231
That's slow ballistics instead of hitscan.

You do have to lead your target, but you only have to accommodate for bullet drop with the bolt action sniper rifles.
Sans M95 since that uses the HMG round.

>>85846197

>Cyndaquil, Chicorita, and Toldodile

That sealed it

>>85846114
Every bullet of every weapon of every type in BC2 have the same speed and drop.

>>85846282
>Suddenly everyone talking complete and total shit about BF2
cause everyone in this thread actually played 1942

>jets

we prefer to call them hover-birds

Why are consolefriends told? Isn't BF3 multiplatform?

FUCK BATTLEFIELD 3 I WANT 2142 ON STEAM

>>85845977
Commodore was an american company you fucking retard.

>>85846231
fun fact: in a videogame when a jet dies a new one spawns for free in about 2 minutes the value of a jet that needs to be built from scratch is different

>>85846349
Just because 1942 was good doesnt make BF2 bad.

Why are we arguing over this? I'm going to be getting this for the PS3 and I don't mind. Let's just all rejoice that we don't have to play another CoD game again.

Let's be friends guys.

So what's the biggest difference in terms of game mechanics between this and COD, other than vehicles?

I only want two things
>Grappling hook from Special Forces expansion
>Mod support

Take my fucking money

I realize this is already a very large thread, but I was wondering if anyone else noticed this weird stuff in Bad Company 2 (which I actually like very much):
- you can't go prone? wtf? you can go prone in literally every other Battlefield game
- Silenced Engineer SMGs are INCREDIBLY accurate, even from 50 to 75 yards away?
- The knife kill radius is a bit off at times? Sometimes I'll be three feet away from the dude and kill him, then other times I'll be right up on him and I'll miss.

Anyway, I just thought these things were odd. Am I alone here?

>>85846523
The name

Nothing else

seriously

>>85846495
1942 was better than 2
people are trashing 2 in this thread because they realize that

they want it to be more like 1942 than 2

2's setting, 1942's mechanics
aka desert combat

>>85846523

did anyone else mistaken that for a cock or was it just me?

Huge fan of Bad Company 1 and 2. Never played any other Battlefield game. What should I expect?

mite b cool.

>>85846562
Fuck you, get your own thread and I'll hide it

>>85846339
Now that just isn't right at all.

They all have the same speed, yes.

But only the M24, the GOL, and the SV-96 have bullet drop.

>>85846396
>>85846396
Me too, me too.

>>85846529

Hold on, grappling hook?

Dear those of /v/ that complain about:

* Snipers all over the place.
* C4 all over the place.
* Nades all over the place.
* Shitfest with claymores.
* Unlockwhoring.
* Vehicles accessible to all.
* Everything shitfuck easy to use.
* Any other complaint on gameplay mechanics.

Please call for modsupport and a mapmaker. Mods such as Project Reality for BF2 has made shitloads of advancements when it comes to the game. Just think about it.

BF3 MUST HAVE team-specific weapons.

Fuck BC2. I don't want everyone running around with a fucking AK and sharing the same guns.

>>85846610
:|

that's the joke nigga

>>85846678
the special forces grappling hook was a portable ladder
just look up and throw it, then you could scale the side of a building
or a street light

i believe you could also throw it at someone for pretty decent damage

>Give knife a separate slot so it cant be used quickly
>mfw people use it at last resort only when out of ammo
>mfw this would be the best game ever made
>mfw this was done 10 years ago
>mfw no face

>>85846678

Scaling walls and shit

There's also a deployable zipline in the SF expansion

>>85846594
I wasted my early teenage years playing Battlefield 2 and loved it.
I played 1942 and desert combat
I didnt like how you could move carriers and shit around, but I liked the battleship/submarine combat type deal, And the artillery was fun but confusing.
Battlefield 2 just took what it could handle and removed the more annoying aspects.

I'd rather it be more like BF2 than 1942 or DC

>>85846678
Hell yeah mother fucker.

Battlefield 2: Special Forces gave the Assault and Anti-Tank a grappling hook you could deploy to climb up buildings.
The Spec Ops and Sniper got a Zipline Crossbow to let you glide from roof top to roof top or quickly ditch your sniping position without opening your chute.
And the Support got a Tear Gas Grenade Launcher.

Much fun was had.

>>85846728
This. Also M16A2 being the highest tier unlock, wat.

This faggotry made me put my copy on the shelf after just a couple of rounds.

where is everyone getting this info about deployable MGs and bi pods from?

>>85846745

Which battlefield had that? 1942?

>Friendly gets into a chopper
>Crash a jeep into it
>Get team killed by the guy who is on the chopper
>Kick him