I am a Sony fanboy, and I agree with OP.

>The only game that looked terrible was Wii Party.

It's pretty much Mario Party Wii without the Mario characters and with Miis

You are retarded.
Rehash means they are using the same franchises over and over.

This might look different but it's basically more of the same shit.

This is the main problem with nintendo.

/agree

>>63205755

So all sequels are rehases?

>>63205755

I do'nt notmally do this, but.

NO U.

>>63205755
No, you're an idiot for having such a stupid "NO SEQUELS ALLOWED" mentality.

Fuck you. I want more Zelda. I liked the first one, I liked the universe. I wanted more, but to feel a bit different and original. And I got it with Zelda 2. And pretty much almost every Zelda since, and this one, with its brand new art style, items, clever combat and use of almost 1:1 controls looks to deliver exactly that.

Same with Metroid.

>>63205755
You don't know what a Rehash is.

Just like most people on /v/

>>63205231
>>63205495
Well that is a samefag.
But I am excited about everything that nintendo is talking about.
I have a 360, and i was thoroughly disappointed by the M$ show. I very possibly might be getting a wii now.
I'm VERY excited for the 3ds. I havent had a handheld since a gameboy SP, so i will almost definetly be getting a 3ds whenever they come out. I dont know how sony will keep up in the handheld battle. With all the games that have already been announced for the 3DS nintendo almost wins by default

>Zelda has always been story/puzzle based.

Earlier games were action based. They were much better

>>63205755

Rehashing is making the same game over and over again. OP has just said why they're not just the same game again.

This is the main problem with stupid terms like 'rehash' and 'casual', they get thrown around and lose their original meaning.

>Epic Yarn
9/10
>Epic Mickey
8/10
>DKCR
9/10
>Kid Icarus
8.5/10
>Skyward Sword
9/10
>Sports Mix
7/10
>Goldeneye
7/10
>OoT remake
10/10
>Metroid other M
8/10
>3DS
100/10

Excitement ratings.

Imma finally be getting A Wii and a 3DS maybe.

Epic Mickey and Epic Yarn look awesome.

Any other games you'd guys recommend?

>>63205943
>LTTP era
>Action based
HA HA HA

Honestly, I loved the E3 Nintendo show. The idea of rehases being done for the DS made me smile, but now I am beginning to think I am really just playing the same games I played when I was 13.

Kid Icarus is just a God of War for kids.

don't mind me. just having better games that the wii or 3ds

>>63206151
>that the wii
>Implying you have more than 10games

>>63205755
Have fun with your Halo 5, CoD 7 and GoW 3, bro.

>My face when op tries to defend rehash's.

>>63205755

>You are retarded.
>Rehash means they are using the same franchises over and over.

The irony, it's so delicious.

>>63206112
>Ignoring the NES games for some reason to save face

PC fag here. I'm excited about both Nintendo's and Sony's offerings (Kirby, DKC, Metroid, MGS Rising, GT5). And rehash is a shitty term ruined by people who think it's synonymous with 'sequel.'

I didn't grow up with video games so ALL of Nintendo's games look great to me.

Haters gonna hate.

>>63206321
You sir, are retarded.

>>63206321
>My face when a troll uses an apostrophe wrong on purpose to bait grammar nazis.

>>63206367
>implying I (the op) made that post

>>63206321
If it sells, why not make them? Same reason why Half Life, Halo, and CoD have so many installments.

>>63205231
>Okay, this is a bit of a rehash, but knowing Nintendo there will be some hefty additions to make it feel like you aren't playing the same game over.
>there will be planty of hefty additions
You don't know Nintendo at. Fucking. All. They rely on nostalgia faggots that blindly support them, such as yourself, to fill their product quotas. Then, when you find out they did not, in fact, add ANYTHING at all, you still say the game was awesome because it was so close to the original.

Fuck, you are among one of the many things that is wrong with gaming today.

OP.
Sequel : Game that take place in the same series and take element from previous game and change major things to make a new game.
Example : Super Mario Galaxy, Zelda Twillight Princess

Rehash: A game who take everything from a previous game and make nearly no changes to the game.
Example : Worm Reloaded, Alot of DDR and Guitar Hero.

>mario sports mix
>basketball, thats it

are we forgetting dodgeball OP

>>63205755
>Rehash means they are using the same franchises over and over.
>This might look different but it's basically more of the same shit.

Here's the thing though, and the most important thing; a large majority of buyers still enjoy the games despite the similarities. Zelda is still a powerhouse franchise, despite every installment being virtually the same.

The reason it's been able to get away with it for so long is because each installment is actually fun.

Why break a winning formula unless you have to? If people are enjoying your game with the small changes between installments, which in Zelda's case is new items, dungeons or different mechanics, why do you feel the need to change it and potentially split your playerbase?

It doesn't make sense from any standpoint. RE4 was drastically different, and it only happened because before RE4, the franchise was sinking hard and fast due to it's gameplay. If Zelda were to be tanking in sales hard, yes, a change of pace would be recommended. But right now, it's driving one of the better cars on the track, so there's no pressure to add more to it.

>>63206426
>My face when you all know Im right.
>>63206476
>My face when clever girl.

>>63206573
Ever consider that their games are actually fun to play, and that's how they've survived in the state they are in for so long?

Because that's pretty much the case.

>>63206367
No, it's mostly because the system was too limited to judge, and because Zelda 2 was a stinker.

And you know, that whole thing about LTTP being the oldest one to still rock to this day.

My biggest problem with Nintendo is that they haven't made a completely original IP since Animal Crossing. They are trying to profit off of our childhoods. Sure Epic Mickey is a original IP, but it is not solely Nintendo. They took premade characters and are trying to make them original like Kingdom Hearts did.

Until Nintendo actually comes out with a brand spanking new Nintendo game, one that is not with characters that have existed since the 1980s, is the day that I will stop saying the word "rehash".

Fuck you Nintendo for not being original.

>>63206695
Zelda 1 is still playable today and Zelda 2 have a fan base too.

>>63206699

Originality:

The Fabled Holy Grail that people think they want, and upon receiving find that they do not..

>>63206675
>my face when the only person who knows you're right is yourself

A Rehash is a sequel of a game that has everything as the exact same as the previous game with no changes at all.

You all are retarded.

>>63206476
>my lack of face when I saw what you did their

>>63206977
ala mw2 style

>3ds
yawn
>paper mario 3
my face

this is a fucking rpg too i'm fucking excited

>>63206699
Aside from that being a blatant fucking lie [Animal Forest debuted on the n64, since then we got Pikmin, the Wii series, Chibi Robo, and a fuckton of other shit for the DS]
nobody cares. We LIKE those series, we LIKE Nintendo's legacy. We don't want them to scrap everything and just bleed out new series all the damn time.

They could easily have repackaged Kirby's epic yarn as a new franchise, but they added some Kirby elements are familiarity because we like that world and want to see more of it.
Same thing with Metroid Other M, and even a bit with the new Zelda. [They could've just made some shitty action game that nobody would've really cared too much for, would you then be happy because OMG IT DOESN'T HAVE ZELDA STUFF IN IT FUCK YES ORIGINAL CONTENT?]

>>63206691
I never said Nintendo's games are not fun to play.

It's just that the ones they are marketing at this E3 are not going to last you more than a weekend's worth of time, yet you asswipes will eat that shit up.

You will pay full price for Epic yarn, even before you consider the following: "I wonder how much of my money's worth I will get out of a sidescroller that, while it does play to my nostalgic childhood and the characters I love from Nintendo, will most likely last me 2 afternoons and hold no unlockable content."

Seriously. Sidescrollers NEVER last long. Same with Donkey Kong remake. It was an afternoon at BEST, or something you take with you on a long car trip and beat it in one go.

No one values money anymore, and everyone is so willing to throw it away at the first sign of anything even remotely good or nostalgic.

>Mario Sports Mix
>Basketball, that is all
Mario characters were in NBA Street Vol. 3 and there's basketball in Wii Sports Resort.

>>63206699
You mean wii sports, wii music, wii fit, etc. weren't all original when very first announced?

i hate all of you

God man,when will Nintendo make new characters and games rated M and T not for kids and diehards?

>>63206921
What the hell are you talking about? I am not even asking for something so extremely original that it would blow your mind, I am just asking for shit with new plots and new characters. See Bioware. They make the same game pretty much over and over again, but they do it with new characters, new plot, and new weapons so I don't complain. And it works. All I am asking for is some new characters so we can at least expand the Smash Brothers roster, but they won't even give us that. It is ridiculous.

>>63206699
>>63206573

Is originality really THAT vital for the progression of the video game industry? Nintendo might feed a lot off of nostalgia, but really, what is wrong with that? Some people prefer that, and for the ones who want to experience new experiences, there is Sony AND Microsoft.

Each company is key to the industry in some way, which is why I believe console wars are a waste of time.

>>63207068
They wouldn't scrap everything, that would be fucking retarded. Just come out with a new game once in a while. Make something new. Give this generation a new Mario, instead of giving this generation regular Mario. You know, giving us something new to talk about and something new that we might love wouldn't be such a bad thing.

>>63207134
>there has never been a true mario basketball game

i think there is some confusion here.

1/2 of the games nintendo showed are just remakes which means improved graphics port.

Thats the equivalent of taking halo 1 or god of war 1 and just revamping them and raking in the cash again.

Think about it and stop being a fanboy, yes they are excellent games, but seriously?

>god tier: 3ds

>awesome tier: kirby epic yarn
>dkcr
>epic mickey

>shit tier: just dance 2

>>63207216
In all honesty, I don't believe Microsoft is key to the console market at all. They were doing just fine with PCs, and their introduction and support of the 360 had nearly killed the PC as a gaming platform. Even now, the 360 doesn't do anything the PS3 doesn't in terms of games. They both play host to the same genres and the same mechanics, the only thing the 360 did was split the console market up even further.

>>63207173
>games rated M and T not for kids
Fucking summer man.

>>63207340
I'm not following you at this point at all, sorry.

>>63207363
Mario Hoops 3 on 3

Released for ds some years ago.

I agree with op, but need to prove you wrong here.

Solution for those FUCK REHASHAN fags:

Zwirky Epic Yarn
(Zwirky is a new original character in the form of yarn)

Dinkey King Country
(Dinkey King is not an ape and will not throw barrels but crates instead)

The Legend of Lonk
(In this game a girl called Zulda travels through the magical world of Lorule.)

Matruid
(A guy called Shamus O'Haran kills aliens)

See, suddenly we have totally new IPs. No "rehashan".

>>63207399
None of the games shown in Nintendo's Conference are remakes.

You are retarded.

Seriously? I don't give a fuck if it's a rehash as long as it's a new game with new puzzles, or stages, storyline, mechanics...

>>63207399
>1/2 of the games
>OoT, goldeneye, starfox, mgs
>many many more unveiled on website, around 25

>>63207216
Honestly, it is not really moving forward. How long can they keep doing this? Are the characters really that iconic that 10, 20, and 30 years from now children will still be playing Zelda? Change has to come eventually, and I am sort of frustrated that it hasn't come yet. It just seems lazy to me.

At the same time though I see your point. Nintendo has a niche in the nostalgia market. I suppose if you want new games and new experiences you go with Sony or Microsoft. It is just it makes me furious knowing that people can still profit off of shit that is 20 years old.

>Kirby Epic Yarn Really guys? Calling at a rehash
>Really guys? Calling at a rehash
>Calling at a rehash
>at a rehash
>at

>>63207420
>they were doing just fine with PCs
>forcing their overpriced shit
>viral marketing campaigns to push their horrid API
>unstable software
They are a blight and must be eliminated from BOTH markets.

>>63207775
Know what that's called?


Good character design.

>>63207173
>>63207422
Oh they did.
But it seem that people dont like it.
Damn...

>>63207636
Honestly I would be okay with this, seriously you should get a job working for Nintendo because you are far more creative than any of them.

>Zelda has always been story/puzzle based.

>>63207685

FFS they are proving that it is a remake by leaving the fucking 64 in the title

starfox64 3D
Pilotwings64 3D

>>63207775
>profit off shit that is 20 years old
MOTHERFUCKING STAR WARS

>>63207775
>THEY SHOULD EVOLVE AND JUST SCRAP FRANCHISES WE ALL LOVE AND ARE SUCCESSFUL
BECAUSE I SAY SO

>>63207685
>Three games revealed on the site, not even confirmed to be more than just tech demos
>Goldeneye Wii is a re imagination of the N64 one with a shitton of changes, not necessarily for the better

Rehash or no rehash. Do not give a fuck. These are mostly boring games, period.

>>63207775
The day where they will have to change ALL the gimmick, like in Banjo Kazooie Nut and Bolt, then the character would be dead.

All of those titles looked uninteresting.

>>63207978

SHIT THEY'RE MAKING A PROFIT.

GREEDY MOTHERFUCKERS, GOD MOTHERFUCKING DAMN IT.

>>63207475
He's saying that Nintendo should continue to progress their core franchises, but create new franchises as well.

I think that Nintendo does attempt this quite often, but those games are widely ignored due to the majority of the Nintendo fanbase labeling them as shit.

So the problem here isn't Nintendo, it's the fans.

>>63207898
Alright, I guess you are right. Batman has been around since the 1930s and I haven't complained about him since George Clooney played him in that God awful ICE TO MEET YOU movie. I suppose there are such things as icons. But my point still stands that new icons every once in a while wouldn't be so bad.

Sorry /v/ that I got so argumentative. Let's put our differences aside and go back to hating everything else again.

>>63208085
Aside from the fact that it's attempted... It's bloody hypocrisy on his part because I bet he never bothered with the less-popular franchises they've tried to start.

Hey guys,

similar names =/= same game

>>63208178
That's good, but as we keep repeating, they ARE making more franchises.

Shit, check out Smash Bros' lineup and extras like trophies and such.

>rage at nintendo
>GUIES WANNA PLAY COD6, GOW3, HALO3, MGS4?

>>63208178
We're all bros here. At least its VIDEO GAMES.

>>63208296
inb4 someone calls SSB a rehash

And you know they will.

I'm a nintendo fanboy. Stop making threads like this, your making us look bad. The best way to be superior is to go play a game, not prove to everyone that your choice in companies to support is superior, chief.

rehash
vb [riːˈhæʃ]
(tr) to rework, reuse, or make over (old or already used material)
n [ˈriːˌhæʃ]
something consisting of old, reworked, or reused material

>>63208405
I'm a nintendo fanboy. I like threads like this because fuck you.

We need more Sony tears.

>>63208318
mgs does not belong on that list
>>63208405
>implying OP wasn't defending nintendo from all the bullshit rehash comments

>>63208405
I'm gonna agree with this, shit, just keep modest about it and laugh as they tear each other's assholes out.

I actually want a Wii for some games.
With all the shooters coming out for the ps3 (and xbox, but I have a ps3), there are not alot of games that I REALLY wanna play.

>>63208504
It's official. Every single game announced this year is a rehash. By every company.

>>63208531
You can call me a Nintendo Fan too.
Still have the Xbox 360 and the Ps3.

>>63208318

sweet wanna play crackdown, dead rising, bioshock, fallout 3, left 4 dead 2, Transformers: war for cybertron, pyschonauts, little big planet, Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect, dead space...list goes on.

Yes we have franchises like halo,MGS, Zelda and they will continue to grow

But new content is appreciated, remember how amazing Bioshock was? How ocarina of time was a mystical new place?

Moar of that plz

Hijacking this thread into a Non-Famous Nintendo Franchise thread.

>>63208504
in other words, every sequel ever,

>>63208680
You will never play The Last Window

Sadfuckingfrogs.jpg

>>63208666
If they change things then its not a rehash.
The only game I could say that is a rehash is Super Mario Galaxy since its the same engine, but since all the levels and gimmick have been improve, then its not.

>>63205231
>Mickey Mouse original IP.
Rofl

>>63208504
Every game announced reused the ideas of interacting with the games, it's official they're all rehashes.

Wii has Oldgaems

REHASHES

REHASHES EVERYWHERE

>>63208759

Epic mickey is a new IP.

>>63205755
So, say, playing Mario Galaxy and Donkey Kong is the same as playing Mario vs Donkey Kong?
You don't know what rehash means.

>>63208766

huuray for kinect and move!
Oh wait, I don't wanna play that.

>>63208696
A rehash is destroying a chair, then use all the pieces to make a chair who have only some change.

A Sequel is to destroy a chair, and work on the pieces by adding or subtracting things to make a new and better (or sometime worse) chair.

A Remake is to polish the chair so it look shiny.

ITT: retarded Nintondoblowjobbers trying to defend their lovely company.

>>63208836
same game with same levels on the super nintendo, herp derp

>>63208846

no but playing donkey kong country returns is like playing donkey kong country 1/2/3

>>63208752
Nope. In your definition it stress making over old content.

If it's not a completely original idea, it's a rehash. That sequel? Uses old characters, it's a rehash. That new fps? There are 80 like it. Even if it doesn't use the same characters, it's a rehash because it just replaces x character with y.

>>63205755
Yes, Mario 64 plays exactly as Super Mario world.
Damn, I am fooled.
Nintendo ruined everything

The word rehash should be a bannable word.

It's the most overused word on /v/, it's fucking ridicolous. Especially coming from xbros and sonyfriends who pretty much only got sequels this year.

I've had a ps1, ps2 and now a ps3.
The only nintendo stuff I ever owned was a gba(sp).
But for some reason, i like the company Nintendo better. Not because of the games.

Why is nobody mentioning Starfox 64?

Do you not remember the hilarious voice acting, the glorious on-rails shooting, and the awesome boss fights?

Speaking of which, I dearly hope the voices for the bosses are still used as they were in the original.

True rehashes reuse music, entire levels, and storylines/models (where it's relevant). Just because it's a sequel using the same control scheme doesn't make it a rehash at all.

On that note, if people hate what they see as "rehashes" so much, then why doesn't /v/ bitch about expansion packs all the time?

>>63205231
The only problem I have with the new Zelda is that, in the latest Game Informer, Shigeru said, "We are trying to make Zelda, which has become very complicated, easier to play."

I'm just sad I haven't seen an ecco remake :(

>>63209044
>he never played pokemon red
Gtfo underageb&

sequels=/=rehases

I have a PS3, and know this

>>63209060

i dare you to go play starfox 64 right now.

You will not be able to get past the third level without thinking wow i used to think this was good?

for all you noobs who think epic mickey is original content, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL6xnm5pJIM

>>63209044

Samefag.

I think I might get a DS.
The 3DS will will be able to play normal DS games right?

>>63209044

Underage b&

>>63208997
sequel != rehash

just because you don't understand the meaning of the word it shouldnt be banned.

>>63209119

I did actually.

>>63208846
Oh my god how even high you must be to say that nonsense?

While you faggots fight over what game is truyl original and what is a rehash I will be enjoying these fun-looking games.

Guess who wins? Me.

>>63209187
>implying starfox 64 isnt still a fuckawesome game

OP is a butt hurt nintendo fag

3DS does sound amazing but i'd like to see it myself and i wanna know the price

The new games for wii just aren't my thing though, since i have a ps3 i'll probably pick up LBP2 for some side-scrollan

>>63209187

I bet you'd say the same about OoT and MM?

Well fuck you, I just recently played them and they still hold up really well.

>>63207986
THIS OH GOD THIS

>Zelda has always been story based.
haha

>>63205755
>God of War 5
>Little Big Planet 2
>Halo 5
>Gears of War 3
>Twisted Metal 5
>Killzone 3

E3 was full of Rehashes for everyone for that definition. To be honest, most games nowadays are just rehashes, Epic Mickey is probably the lone exception.

>>63209365

its awesome yeh, but i clawed my eyes out trying to play it again.

>>63209187

Jokes on you, I'm on the last level now.

What now, faggot?

>>63209447

I wonder, how many FF games are there?

Microsoft has no gaems anymore why bother asking Xbros?

>>63209119
He thinks playing pokemans is mature