Tap LB while guardian equals tea-bag of the year all years

Its a beta and it shows.

I've played around 90 games and ive grown bored with the maps and limited game types not to mention things that are just horribly unbalanced.

Grenades, double instant melee, sword blocks, gravity hammer making the sword redundant, flag juggling, playing elite in invasion being a fucking uphill battle.

Its a neat game, but its got a way to go before its fall release. The problem they have is they have to be able to listen to the community and ignore it at the same time, example;
Good idea: Make melee less quick
Bad idea: Get rid of DMR bloom and bring back the BR

>>58934382
They already confirmed melees and grenades are being fixed.

Grenades
I agree they should be nerfed a bit, say 10-15%?

BXB
this is a bug and they already said its been fixed in their weekly update

sword blocks
eh i love it when i block sword i hate it when i have sword so idk

gravity hammer has shorter reach but yeah its semi-redundant

flag juggling
Problem, other team?

playing elite
IS FUCKING AWESOME

1.5x health
1.5x speed
1.5x jump
2 x better ability (evade)

>>58934486
I am well aware of this. That doesn't help the game right now, thus, its not as fun to play and thats why nobody is talking about it.

Its ridiculous that they thought having such a huge blast radius would be a good idea in any objective based game. If i have to stand directly on the flag for 30 seconds to return it..do i really need a 2 hit instant kill lobbed at me 6 times.

>>58934486
Fuck year.

Has anybody ever been playing a match-of any of the halos- and something just clicks and you get like a 6th sense and just start raping?

.

HALO?!

You guys play terrible games.

My only problem not addressed is the redicule bloom. You gotta ask yourself when making any game - "does this feature make the game more fun?" If not, scrap it. Bloom is frustrating in every way.

>>58934717
This is video games, cancer.

Also what is this flag juggling of which you speak.

>>58934630
>playing elite

No matter all your bonuses, its a fucking struggle to win invasion.

>flag juggling
>Problem, other team?

No. Because i use it too. But i can recognize its a terrible design fault. It was like 'weapon skating' back in GOW1.

>>58934774
we sure do.
now would you kindly fuck off?

Assault Rifle, Plasma Repeater, DMR, and Needle Rifle all need minor buffs.

The pistol and all of the power weapons are perfect, but those weapons above feel weak.

>>58934820
>FLAG DROPPED
>FLAG TAKEN
>FLAG DROPPED
>FLAG TAKEN
>FLAG DROPPED
>FLAG TAKEN
>FLAG DROPPED
>FLAG TAKEN

how is halo:reach different from halo 3?

>>58934774

forgot your sage bro

>>58934921
Ah.
I don't really mind this though.

>>58935008
It's annoying as hell and a glitch. You think they would fix it after being present since halo 1.

>>58934807
It was to slow down the insanity that was the BR. Headshots are one of the most frustrating things about any FPS and have long been one of the problems with the genre.

I have absolutely no problem with one shot skill weapons like a sniper, but when a starting weapon allows you to burst fire 3 shots and kill someone in seconds..that weapon needs to go.

Bloom reticule is just the price you pay for the autoaim. If it wasn't there, bloom would have no place.

>>58934859
if its balanced teams elites should have no problem getting past the first two phases.

third phase is a bit easy for spartans though. only 4 minutes, PLUS spartans get an INSTA-RAPE scorpion

>Evade+Shotgun equals OP All years.
That's not Armor Lock when being Plasma Grenaded and shot with rockets.

>>58935073
But instead of bloom, why not fix the source of the problem, weapon balance?

>>58935008
Juggling allows you to pick up the flag, throw it ahead, pick it up again, throw it again etc.

It lets you run at max speed while 'carrying' the flag and use all your weapons.

Its tell tale sign is the FLAG DROPPED, FLAG TAKEN barrage.

>>58935073
*4 shots

Also, I wouldn't mind if the BR was brought back if it was 5 shot and took 2/3 of the burst in the face to kill an unshielded person.

Grenades.

FUCKING grenades.

Players don't even AR or DMR battle anymore, when you can just spam nades in your general direction. Grenades should be pick up only.

>>58935060
It isn't a glitch. It makes sense in the game.
Carrying the flag makes you go slower, you can throw the flag forward when you let go.
Therefor, keep chucking the flag.

>>58935150
>if its balanced teams elites should have no problem getting past the first two phases.

I'm not arguing that at all, im saying its hard to WIN, that is complete all 3 phases, not just 2.

The narrow hallways, vehicles and more importantly, the power weapons make it so damn hard to escort that thing to the drop ship.

The BR was a flawed weapon from the start because of it's burst fire nature. Having a spammy weapon as the "precision" weapon of the game was retarded.

>>58935341
>>58935238
Speed with weapon = Speed with flag

PROBLEM SOLVED.

ITT: Casuals


How's Babie's First FPS? Aiming for the MLG eh kiddo?

>>58935412
Flag drops at the carrier's feet. Can't pick it up until you stop "touching" the flag then "touch" it again. Problem solved, game not ruined.

>>58935341
Its not a glitch, you're right. Its just largely referred to as an 'exploit'.

I'm not saying dont use it, fuck, keep using it. But you need to recognize that its place in the game was unintentional.

>>58935507
You also eliminate a lot of strategy.
Like throwing the flag up to a teammate on a higher platform, trying to kill the flag guy at a point when he would drop the flag off the map, suicidal to throw a flag to a more accessible point.

There is no problem with flag juggling.

>>58935550
Which is why it survived when other bugs got the axe, right.

>>58935550
IDK, bungie has known about flag juggling for over a decade and 4 games (h1,h2,h3,reach) and they havent changed it.

they even mentioned fixing it in the weekly update, but it seems better than ever :|

so how many of you 360 kids don't know how to type yet? Like properly type on a computer... You know its a skill you should have for when your MLG dreams fall short.

>>58935819
In Halo 1 you ran full speed with the flag. There was no need to throw it unless you were passing it off or trying to get it up a ledge.

Just one more reason Halo 1 is the best in the series.

>>58935751
The gaming pace has slowed down, they've even addressed it as a problem in reach.

>>58935659
Learn to deal. Things change, you can create new strategies with it.

This thread has some nice news (though I think we should keep discussion here)
>>58935833

>>58935957
>>58935455
We get it, you're trolling. We really dont care.

>>58936015
Or, don't fix what isn't broken.

Though, that isn't bungie's strong point. They remove everything people cry about without really examining the issue.

which is better... spartans... or elites?

I dunno... I'm kind of tired of it already, went back to playing 3
Saw the update today too - took DMR starts from Invasion... wtf, was pretty balanced as is

>>58936015
>>they've even addressed it as a problem in reach.
Didn't they only address the constant audio updates it causes as an issue, not the act itself?

How about not being able to touch the flag for a second after dropping it?

>>58936189
elites holy fuck

Every advantage is in the elites favour. Speed, jumping height, regen time, evade. FUCK YEAH

>>58936118
The best way to fix the problem will always be to just be able to run at full speed with the flag.

Everyone is happy.

PS- what issues have bungie ignored / not examined that you alluded at?

>>58935507
and then when you need to drop the flag to tkill someone and you need to walk away from the flag and come back?

>>58936273
Pretty much.

Elities are ridiculously fun to play because of how quick they are.

>>58936229
It's the shotguns in Tier 3 that fuck the game, not any DMRs.

>>58936275
They removed rocket lock on when that wasn't broken.
they nerfed the banshee when you could take it out with a single smg in halo 2 easy.
they nerfed the wraith which could be taken out with dual wield combos easily.

>>58934908
wut u talkin bout? needle rifle = every kind of rape dont like the DMR clip too short and the repeater and assault rifle are perfect for close to medium range carnage!

>>58935073

>I have absolutely no problem with one shot skill weapons like a sniper

>but when a starting weapon allows you to burst fire 3 shots and kill someone in seconds..that weapon needs to go.


nub

Halo Reach is bringing too many casual shits into Halo threads. Let's set the ground rules right now.

Just for a tl;dr: Halo is like Team Fortress combined with Quake 3 and Half Life 2 with all the episodes, only deeper, more challenging, and more atmospheric than all three combined.

Halo is the single deepest, most challenging, most skill-based game ever created. There is not a single other game in any genre that comes close to the level of skill Halo requires.

This is why Halo threads are the best, most intelligent threads on /v/. Only the smartest, brightest, and most patient people post in them. Essentially, the very best of humanity posts in them.

Conversely, the only people who don't like Halo clearly don't have the skills to handle its depth. It is too hardcore for them. That's okay though. Games like Monster Hunter exist for people like them. Halo fans are too good to hold grudges.

The reason there aren't a lot of threads about Reach is because they are actually playing the fucking game.

man i LOATHE the new bansee its just... terrible

>>58936382
True, they might want to adjust the tier starts... but Elites get swords, so it kind of evens out (even though shotgun is somehow a longer range gun now)
Depends on style of play though too... if you're teams smart they won't just rush the core and get shotguns to the face from cover

Halo threads on /v/ are the worst because no one here actually gives a shit about Halo. None of you know what the hell you're talking about.

elites are better

they should reduce grenade damage
i cant think of much else right now

>>58936648

>>58936648
Had me at the second sentence, but good try.

>>58936772
then teach us oh wise halo master

>>58934661

Yeah Halo has a rhythm about it: get the exact number of bullets in, hit the melee at the exact right time, know when to run.

>>58936550

Human grenade launcher, weapon of the year, all years?

Seriously it's just so fucking fun to use. Jetpack guy gonna land on me? BOOM. Shotgun runnin' at ya? BOOM. Need to clear out an area? BOOM BOOM BOOM.

Seriously, direct impact = instant death is fucking hilarious.

>>58936602
Its called function and placement.

Power weapons one shotting are fine. Starting weapons able to do it precisely and as quickly is not.

SvE is the worst gametype ever invented.
Headhunter is flawed but fun.
SvE fucking sucks. Invasion >>>>>>>>>>>> SvE

Other than that, amazing game

Is this worth getting?

>>58936648
It sucks that you're probably reverse-trolling... and it's probably going to work

>>58936977
The BR wasn't an instant kill. In fact, you had plenty of time with it to get away and to cover at range. Unless you were running across a wide open area, which is never recommended.

>>58936963
I shot this dude in the feet one time when he was on a higher altitude than me near the powerhouse waterfall.
Fucking awesome.

>>58937092
>HAHA, What the fuck?! Since when? Headshots have always been one of the most coveted things of the genre!

That doesn't make it good.

Any semblance of balance goes out the window when you can one shot kill enemies by hitting them in the head with any weapon.

Perfectly realistic, but not exactly the best gameplay mechanic.

The most recognizable video game is Boom! Headshot for gods sake

>recognizable video game is Boom! Headshot
>video game
>"Boom! Headshot"

>>58937246
A head is tiny.
If it's hard to do, then it is a good thing.

>>58934661
I can attest to this... hot streaks definitely exist
Sometimes it feels like my sniper rifle is glued to faces or (in the context of Reach) my DMR timing is fucking tits

>>58937094
>The BR wasn't an instant kill.

Never said it was, but it was precise and quick.

>In fact, you had plenty of time with it to get away and to cover at range.

Mostly yes, but its place no longer exist in Reach given how slow everything is.

>>58937246
Hold it, you can do that with a sniper rifle.

BR required you to drop their shields all the way first.

That isn't just one shot to the head, they die.

>fucking tits

Confirmed for Britfag tier

Rofl, fucking casual faggots, enjoy your Halo 1,2 and 3.... WITH JETPACKS DERP

>>58937409
Reach is faster than halo 3.
Not to mention has things like Armor lock, sprint, and the evade skills to counter it further at range.

I'd like to point out that the BR was never a starting weapon.

>>58937410
I wasn't talking just about Halo. I was talking about FPS in general.

>>58935751
it survived because it can tell the teams who's in possesion

It's stupid but yeah many people like knowing this because they have ADD and forget about everything that isn't their KD ratio

>>58936963
Fucking this
Grenade Launcher is rape sauce... once you get that trajectory down its fucking over

>>58937542
HURR wat

yes it was

God damn I love the grenade launcher. Even when I don't hit anything it feels cool. Also I like being an elite just so I can dash.

>>58937542
Team BR's and MLG.
What are you doing, nigger.

>>58937622

Halo 1 = AR
Halo 2 = SMG
Halo 3 = AR
Reach = AR

............

>>58937607
Flag Juggling survived because it wasn't broken, and removing it would limit a lot of strategies, or lead to dumb limitations like making it untouchable on drop.

>>58936977

no it's called you being a whinny bitch ass scrub that can't deal with balance so you need your scrub nubby 1HKO weapons to be any good at any FPS/TPS at all

>>58937685
see
>>58937700

>>58937542
Are you joking or just purposely an idiot?

>>58937685

weren't default gametypes, therefore, they were not default starting weapons

>>58937703
nah bro I'm talking about

"FLAG TAKEN"
"FLAG DROPPED"

SFX, those piss me off and have been for a while now

>>58937642

I can't seem to really get used to it.

Shooting it at them made it bounce off them and bouncing off the ground makes it hard to nab instant kills.

>>58937853
Well, you linked to a post talking about Flag Juggling itself.

>>58937705
>scrub nubby 1HKO weapons to be any good at any FPS/TPS at all

I was arguing against the existence of quick kill weapons, but okay...

Its fine to have a rocket launcher that one hit kills because its 1) slow 2) limited ammo and 3) only one on the field at a time.

I do not like BR because they are 1) extremely quick 2) extremely common and 3) require very little skill to pay the bills (and get the kills).

So just chill.

>>58937856
wtf shooting at them doesnt make it bounce off. it makes them die.

>>58937834
>Default gametypes
What the fuck are you talking about? Slayer? I guess the bungie authored slayer that comes up in custom games has AR starts, but not many of the matchmaking ones.

>>58937409

BR required some skill to operate and up close the AR would kill quicker if you keep the reticule red.

see those glitch screenshots in invasion that show the other unlockable helmets?

pretty much everything from Halo 3 (except LOL RECON) is coming back

>>58937968
>>require very little skill to pay the bills (and get the kills).

Oddly enough, it also required very little skill to get out of its line of fire. Would have been easier in Reach.

>>58937703

Juggling is an advanced skill so I can see why they keep it in.

Halo Reach just gives brute equipment to the spartans:
jetpack = brute equipment
armor lock = brute chieftain invincibility (but more limited)
invisibility = stalker brute equipment
seriously only sprint should be in the game, the other 3 powers are just too cheap for spartans to have

the problem with the BR was that it was THE weapon to use, nobody really used anything else unless forced to (power weapons dont count)

i hope reach doesnt end up like this, so far all the weapons seem pretty balanced with some only needing a few buffs here and there

>>58937991

hell the first time I got one I was like "Aww shit gonna fuck some shit up" then some guy starts rushing at me with an AR and I shoot it directly at him...Only for it to bounce off his face and do nothing.

The fishbowl helmet with the skull on it is prolly gonna be the new recon helmet equivalent for reach

>>58937992

Slayer, CTF, KoTH, Territories, Oddball, Juggernaut, Assault...any of them.

The Bungie-recommended starting weapon has always been the AR or SMG. Any other gametype was community inspired or requested, so if one is going to complain about it being an "over powered starting weapon" it was never MEANT to be a starting weapon.

>>58938182

It would have been nice to have playable brutes, they could be balanced against spartans and elites. Using natural traits like in Halo2 over the tech of the other two races.

>>58938166

right trigger, right bumper, repeat. Do this quickly.

"advanced skill"

>>58938352
>Bungie-recommended starting weapon

Bungie also 'recommended' that people use other weapons not the BR, clearly didnt work out too well.

>>58938182 Halo Reach just gives brute equipment to the spartans

holy shit that leads into the plot of Halo:CE! brutes are too busy stealing everyone's shit at reach to chase after the pillar of autumn with the elites!

scorpion tank is way too overpowered against the wraith, i noticed it can 1 shot kill a wraith instead of 2 shot kill like in halo 3, they need to make them even

>>58938352

>>Implying that BRs are not all over the fucking place.

It's almost acts as a starting weapon.

Little known fact: Halo invented Bayonetta.

>>58937968
BR requires some skill... I don't know the exact number of shots required (I always just go for head), but...
4 to drop shields, 1 head (or 2-3 for kill).... or 4 total if MLG (with the 4th a head-shot)
So, you have to be able to aim some or get raped, no matter the distance... The difference being the final headshot

>>58938352
BR starts always come up after a slayer/non BR objective veto, or are up first to begin with. This is speaking of matchmaking, which is 95% of H3 games played.

>>58938577

what do you mean?

>>58938503
That's a troll, son.

>>58938612 It's almost acts as a starting weapon.

*play some halo 3*
*everyone but you choses to not veto Slayer BRs on Pit*

FFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>>58938639
The thing I hate is that it takes 1/3 of the burst to finish you off, with 2/3 of the burst more balanced.

>>58938641
>>58938612

y'all are overreacting. This shit was definitely not true in Halo 1/2, and was only to a very mild extent in Halo 3.

>>58938503

About as difficult as strafe jumping, rocket running and rocket jumping, yet they're considered advanced skills.

>>58938639
I never said it didnt require skill, or even that it didnt require a decent degree of skill.

The problem is that once you reach a medium plateau of ability, it became better in ALL situations against all opponents at any distance.

slayer brs on the pit always winds up being 'slayer machine gun turrets camping in the sword room'

>I have absolutely no problem with one shot skill weapons like a sniper, but when a starting weapon allows you to burst fire 3 shots and kill someone in seconds..that weapon needs to go.

you just made me fucking rage scrub. Faggots like you are what ruined halo. Slowing down the game makes a campy piece of shit where throwing grenades kills people faster than actually shooting guns. It makes the whole game dependant on camping power weapons because regular guns can't kill in time before someone runs away. It destroys the skill ceiling and makes the game random as fuck. God forbid they put in an effective weapon that you actually have to aim, and can actually hurt people at medium range. Faggots like you want the entire game to be run at someone with an AR then mash the melee button wildly, unless you have a hammer of course. So basically you want medium and long range combat to be "wildly throw nades and camp the sniper spawn until you get it, then dominate the entire map". Kids like you would have gotten shit on in halo:CE. fuck off you fucking scrub I mad

People troll halo for one reason.. they are fucking terrible at the game. any FPS player that plays 1-2 shot kill FPS games is god awful at halo and they hate it.

back on topic..sprint+hammer is unbalanced.. I was also able to glitch roll onto roofs.

>>58938805

What's the problem? BR slayer breaks up the gameplay with something a bit different and it's not like there isn't plenty of cover in the pit.

>>58938895
>rocket jumping
>Strafe jumping
>Advanced

Fuck are you talking about?

>>58938895

by whom and why?

>>58938891
>overracting
I forgot I couldn't have a civil debate on /v/
>mild
Moar like
>>58938641
amirite?
>Halo 1/2
The CE pistol was too damn OP, worse than the BR, while SMG starts caused havoc on those who are respawning.

>>58938938
If you don't like what Halo's turning into then why don't you just not play it?

>>58938938
No.

I just dont want one weapon to rule at all distances.

You mad because you completely misunderstood stood what i said.

>>58938861
Yeah that's the thing... The game counts bullets and the BR is a burst weapon.
In the grand context of things its kind of fucked up because the net-code for 3 is fucked. If my reticule is red, I'm leading shots, and the connection is strong then I'm confident.... if any of those factors is fucked, then god knows what will happen....

*get Laser Tag on a weekend playlist*

"oh hey that's neat. lasers are pretty cool.*

*seconary weapon is a sniper*

*no one uses the laser*

:(

I LIEK EGGS

>The CE pistol was too damn OP

scrub detected

>>58939251
>fag detected

When 80% of kills are by a single weapon (halo CE pistol, Halo 2/3 BR), the game is not balanced.

>>58939251

>>scrubs

>>58939003
That has the be the fucking DUMBEST statement I've read all day.

What you are basically saying is that if ANYBODY dislikes the game, their opinion is wrong and they just suck.

And once again people show a fucking fundamental misunderstanding of what "Trolling" is.

>>58934807
Bloom has been in every single halo game ever released, it just wasn't graphically represented, we should have an option to enable or disable dynamic crosshairs though, but the bloom must stay.

>>58938938

Although I'm not mad, I agree somewhat. But I do like the DMR a lot it doesn't feel as affirmative at registering distant shots, but that may be more to do with the new shield graphics.

But I do notice that games are more about who can get the power weapons first, whereas in Halo3 you always felt like you had a chance, even with the AR.

Now I get hammered too much for some reason, I approve of the sword blocking, plasma launcher is cheap.

At this point I fucking love the needle rifle with a needler for a back-up.

I'VE GONE NEEDLE CRAZY /v/!

Armour lock is obviously the best armour ability because it has the most simple use (push button to not die). People are still stupid enough to attack me during the phase so I can come out of it when they've lost their shield and pop one off in their head. Sprint and evade have their pros too, Cloak is just useless and I haven't tried he jetpack that much.

OP, next time you make a Halo thread, do it after 12am GMT. That's when all the edgy American children are asleep.

in speaking of rocket lock on, what happened to it? i saw in a vid that you could now you cant.

also the spartan laser sucks now. i shot a banshee with it and it didnt die. THATS RIGHT IT TAKES 2 LASERS TO KILL A FUCKING BANSHEE.

another thing that made me rage was wraith vs scorpion. I was literally alive 1 minute when A SINGLE SCORPION ROUND blew up my wraith. what the fuck. unless i can one shot the scorpion in return its not fucking fair considering the scorpions gun is so damn easy to aim. i also dont like how it takes a billion years to traverse the turret in the scorpion.

>>58938922
True... I think that explains the DMR to some extent (and the reticule bloom)
They probably didn't want a gun that works in all situations... or at least has a bit of a handicap (maybe they were hoping to widen the skill gap)

>>58939525

i do that for the first two phases of invasion when I'm an elite. Nobody ever grabs the needle rifle even though it's way better than the other starting guns, so I just pick assassin and troll people with camoflauge and NEEEEEEDLEEEESSS

>>58939561

For me it's

>SWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWAT
SWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWAT
SWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWAT
SWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWATSWAT

God damn it's like I'm not even playing Halo anymore.

>>58938922

exactly, I suck shit at console FPSes but I do just fine in halo 3 with the BR. It's the only thing you need. And that's terrible.

You can use any gun you want in reach and do well.

>>58939647
they removed it in Halo 3 because the community complained about it.
It wasn't broken.
Just like they nerfed the Banshee and Wraith when those could be taken out with a single smg (banshee) and dual wielding (either).

>>58938922

Not necessarily, AR, dual-plasma/smg and of course shotgun would rape BR at short range. Needler could cope at short to medium range if you are good at dodging, because of the homing.

BR is supposed to be strongest in the medium range, laser and sniper will of course rape at greater distances.

>>58936648

Made my day.

>>58939881

All you need to do with the needler is strafe to the right.

The homing sucks ass.

>>58939847
i know it was not in H3 i mean i saw a reach vid where you could.

and what wasn't broken? and could i really kill wraiths with SMGs?

>>58939881
Except the BR basically became the be-all-end-all weapon.

Basically, any other weapon was either a backup weapon or a Power Weapon. The weapon of choice in Halo 3 was the BR.

Which is why I'm glad it's gone in Halo Reach.

All they need to do is increase the damage for the AR, perhaps make the bloom recoil come down a slight bit quicker, lower the grenade damage so it'll take two to kill a Spartan, and halven the spooling time for the Warthog's chaingun.

>>58939561

Oh god I hate stockpile now.

>>58940151

Yeah AR does feel a little puny in reach, it was a great weapon in 3. I agree about the frags, in 3 they're more about smoking people out or buttering up a group for a bit of multi-kill. The outright kills feel cheap. Plasma grenade seems a bit better in reach though.

>>58940156

>teammates vote for stockpile
>they spend entire match playing slayer

>>58940042
essentially, the halo community on bungie.net complained about things like
Rocket lock on
Banshees
Wraiths.

Said they were too strong.

They weren't.

The facts are these.

Rockets were fine as is, and served exactly what they were meant for, and weren't guaranteed.
It's lock on capability was still removed. It does not exist in Reach, but the covenant "equivalent" can lock on to people and vehicles, and fire up to four shots, witch moderate to poor tracking. I've hit 3/4 of them on one warthog before, and not destroyed it.
The Banshee lacked a sure kill weapon, like the fuel rod canon.
It could be killed easily with a single smg, even at mid range. Most people just didn't try, because it was an odd idea. It would kill the pilot quickly
It was still nerfed in halo 3, and further in halo reach.

The Wraith could be killed very quickly in halo 2 with a side or rear approach, using an smg/plasma rifle combo.
It was still nerfed in halo 3, then way more in halo reach.

>>58939881
You're thinking straight-up battles... that doesn't happen too often
Plus...
AR and Shotgun are doable as long as you're not right on top of each other
Needler you could do with the slightest bit of cover
Laser is doable if you listen to the charge-up
Sniper is harder at any appreciable range

ANYBODY THAT VOTES FOR SWAT ANYTHING IS A FUCKING FAGGOT, YOU ARE NOT A HEADSHOT PRO FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>my face when swat gets 5 votes in grab bag

haters gonna hate
forever

>>58940801

This

>>58940801

I don't vote for it but I don't hate it either. I find it amusing. Like playing instagib with people who all have down syndrome.

>>58940801

>now realizing that team swat is the same as hardcore team deam deathmatch from mw

>>58940801
huh... I actually like SWAT
Why the hate? Makes for a quick, pretty fun game... you get to practice head-shotting anyway

wish i got a fucking beta code
cant get odst where i live

>>58940587
The Spartan Rocket Launcher in Reach does have lock on, you just need to be seriously fucking close to something then it beeps up in the middle of the fucked up crosshairs.

all i play in halo 3 is team swat or snipers
sup?

>play oddball
>guy camps in the showers with the skull
>"hey guys let's go to the showers"
>everyone kills everyone who is located near the showers
>guy in the corner with the skull still has the skull

every fucking oddball game

>>58941068
Then it's near worthless.

Halo is for faggots

>>58941120

Nm fag

>>58941068

Don't you have to keep the reticle over the target and red? The rocket will then track, kind of like the redeemer from UT.

>>58941211

>>58941028
Also, possibly PRO tip...
How's the hit boxes treating everyone... seems like if you consistently aim a little above the head in SWAT your golden (even on your 1st shot)

>>58941319
I've fired above shoulders and been rewarded with kills.

>>58941175

Fuck, but that's like every Halo.

>Playing halo3
>fag with skull on other side of the map
>run up side of the map
>camper jumps out of the shadows and kills me
>end of match, camper 0 points

>>58941211
nigger why the fuck is the N in italics? Get your shit together.

>>58941175

No one knows how to play fucking oddball. Everyone keeps killing each other instead of going for the guy WITH THE FUCKING BALL.

How many days left of the Beta?

>>58941543
getting rid of the competition pal

>>58941455
It's in italics because only niggers use italics and play halo

>>58940587
HUMAN ROCKET LAUNCHER CAN, I REPEAT, *CAN* LOCK ON IN REACH. A SECONDARY RETICLE WILL APPEAR AFTER YOU HOVER OVER BANSHEE, ETC FOR A FEW SECONDS


CRUISE CONTROL off

>Crazy King
>Hill zones are under constant grenade blasts
>Holy shit I'm having so much fun and I dont even care what place I'm in

>>58941543

yeah but it makes it kind of easier to win if you can camp the skull, everyone else is busy playing slayer.

>>58941750

>Implying that it works like that

>>58941543

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>58941918
>crazy king
>fun

laughinggirls.jpg

>>58942031
>implying killing people who will kill you for the skull is stupid

Pistol is PERFECT. Fucking PERFECT.

DO NOT MESS WITH IT BUNGIE OMG DO NOT.

>>58942327

>Implying that the guy with the ball isn't sitting around the corner laughing as people kill each other instead of going after him.

>>58942326
Crazy king is broken, BROKEN

i'm stuck playing halo 3 like a faggot
someone tell the faggot that rented odst to return it the only rental store in my town >_<

>>58942584

Blame the overpowered 'nades.

Needler either needs a slower fire rate or a larger amount of needles to kill. Not by much but just a little.

Looks like summer has started.

>>58942902

You're a gigantic faggot.

Just sayin'

>>58942872

i haven't noticed any problems with the needler at all

>>58942872
I'd agree with that over messing with tracking..... only because using it is so fucking fun

>>58943080

Agreed it made the transition well. It feels like nothing changed.

>>58942979
Like I said.
Looks like summer has started.

a little late now but you could try calling up a Blockbuster and asking them to mail you ODST with the Direct Access program...you wont get it for a few days though, and teh beta will be almost over by then

also, its only in some areas

>>58943467

Like I said.
You're a huge faggot.

-remove the tracking function on the plasma grenade launcher
-give grenades a smaller splash radius
-remove double beatdown faggotry

>>58943551
How so?

>>58943585
>remove tracking function

the only way that would work is if they made the nades fly out instantly and super fast, with more area of effect