tl;dr

>Goldeneye takes a lot of credit for stuff that Halo did as well... Goldeneye and Perfect Dark were a one off on a single console, there was nothing else like them until Halo

>recharging health, being able to carry only two or three weapons, vehicles integrated seamlessly with the gameplay, melee and grenades being core to the gameplay

please tell me you don't believe the halo series normalized these features into first person shooters

Excellent copypasta, I'll take it!

>>58416251
Um... but it did

>>58416290
okay then

tl;dr
we don't like Halo because it's shit and still popular, not because it's popular, and because it's shit and popular, it has a horrendous fan base, which ruins playing the game with people, a key part of the halo franchise.

0/10, would not be trolled again.

>>58416356
All right, where did it all start then?

I hated the first Halo when I played it. I didn't finish it. I finished 3, never played 2. 3 was OK but very bland. It's like a nice food that you wouldn't eat again because it sticks to the roof of your mouth.

Also, Halo did NOTHING original, so don't start this shit.

>>58416371
>You should be able to recognise Halo's influence whether you like the game or not, if not, you're biased.

You're not a gamer.

>>58416416
Dude, what the fuck... read my post. Halo fucking defined the last ten years of FPS because of what it did that hadn't been done before...

Good console FPS, but that's about it.

>>58416400
pong

>>58416536
*yawn*

The thing is, Halo may be influentail, that's undeniable. Why it was influential, I do not know. But what I do know is that it does not deserve accolades for being influential, as it has spoiled two generations of mainsteam FPS'.

I like how halofags desperatly try to use any rationale they can when people don't like their baby fps, it's kawaii.

>>58416400
tribes popularized all those points you've listed and more
/thread

Inb4 some faggot thinks he's trolling because he has a different opinion.
>>58416288
>>58416371

OH WAIT

>>58416566
Spoiled how?
>>58416591
And lol... this is not rationalising anything, there is just so much ignorance around this series, and most of it comes from the people who hate it for no valid reason whatsoever.

i tried the first halo back when it was big and while it was alright for a while it got so fucking dull i never finished it

and that is the foundation of my belief that halo is for dullards

I played Halo 1 and 2 on PC.
Absolutely loved the first one. It had a compelling story, good visuals, great music, likable characters.
The only downside was that the underground levels and the library in the first one felt a little bit repetitive, like they were copy pasted.
The second one I didn't like so much. Mainly because it ran like crap on my computer, and since it was pirated I had to keep doing stuff to be able to play it.
I honestly don't understand why most of you faggots bash it. It's not like your games are any better.

Pic related: haters should an hero.

>>58416666
By introducing these emelents into one package which has been emulated since. Completely changin the genre I once loved.

Actually I don't like Halo because I didn't find it any fun and so many games now have shit mechanics like health regen because of it that I can't be anything but bitter.

halo is bad and boring, if you ever played a real fps you would know that. also lego-aliens are not very scary.

Halo 1 > halo 2, 3, ohdeeestee, reach around, 5, 6 ,7 8, 9, 19

>>58416617
Mmhm, it didn't popularise them... I never played tribes, but it wasn't a direct influence over Halo, and even if it was (which I repeat, it wasn't) Halo "popularised" it by doing it *right*... as I said, this stuff was done here and there, but nowhere near as well as Halo.

Halo didnt have as much of an impact on the video game world as people think it did.

Hey OP? I dont have any long words to counter your shite. I dont have an eloquently written paragraph to explain myself.

All I have is experience - I played Halo 1, completed 2 and have layed 3 also.

All three of them were dull, created ZERO immersion and left nothing for me to ponder about after I played them. Fuck your dumbed down meat head plot. Halo is casual trash.

>>58416150

You make a good point OP. I'm not much of a Halo fan myself, but I really can't think of another shooter that used regenerating health combined with vehicles combined with grenades combinded with limited weapon selection.

In the shooters before 2000 you usually had a limited supply of health, could carry as many weapons as you wanted, didn't have grenades, and there were certainly no vehicles. Game like Battlefield implemented vehicles and grenades and limited weapon selection, however no regenerating health; and I do believe BF1942 came out after Halo.

Not to say that tactical nukes, health regenerating and unlimited grenades is a good thing; but your point is valid.

>>58416707
OP here, I know you're kind of agreeing with me... but if you played Halo on PC you didn't play Halo. Sorry.

>>58416801
>>58416772
That is so fucking subjective... you're not countering what I've said at all, you're just saying it's "bad" because you don't like it. You're wrong.

>>58416772

Health regen is a shit mechanic?

All it does is require more thought and tactic to be able to take down someone before they run away and they have a chance to retaliate after their shields and health recharge.

The only people that don't like Halo, are the people that haven't played it. Or, the people that have played it, and sucked fucking dick at it.

>>58416150
>look at thumbnail
>see two legs
>think masterchief has a massive dong
>open picture, see assault rifle
>prefer thumbnail

>>58416957
that is a reasonable assumption and also very logical

>>58416957

how could you suck in such a piss easy game? 12-year olds have funny ways of thinking.

>>58416928

>but if you played Halo on PC you didn't play Halo. Sorry.

Ha-ha, kk. He was a troll.

We can all go home now.

>>58416891
Fair enough, this is what I'm saying... love it or hate it; it changed fucking everything. All I'll add is that the people who love Halo know exactly why they love it... where the people who hate it just hate it without reason.

>>58416877
This is just a garbage in garbage out argument, I don't fucking care what you think, because you pretty much don't think.

Whether you like the game or not is up to you, People are allowed to like and hate games, get the fuck over it.

>>58416928
What? How the hell not?
If anything Halo on PC is better than on console, because keyboard and mouse are better suited for them than than a shitty controller.

Jump on Halo 3 and I'll show you how bad you can be, when I shit on you so hard that you spend more time watching your dead body on the ground, than you do playing. But you probably dont have a 360 or xbox live so your opinion matters none

2 was fun to be online mostly just because of the "glitches", super jumps, getting out of maps, etc.

>ctf
>burial mound
>take flag behind barrier on top of level
>my face

1 was good, but 3 and the rest continue to go downhill

>>58416150

OP, not many people realize that Halo also has a very well thought out and intelligent storyline.

You just need to dig a little bit to be able to learn most of it, but once you do I think that if you have an appreciation for good writing and interesting plotlines and underlying themes you'll reach the same conclusion.

Some of the writing in the Terminals is just great.

"You don't know the contortions I had to go through to follow you here, Reclaimer. I know what you're here for. What position do I take? Will I follow one betrayal with another?

You're going to say I'm making a habit of turning on my masters. But the one that destroyed me long ago, in the upper atmosphere of a world far distant from here, was an implement far cruder than I. My weakness was capacity - unintentional though it was! - to choose the Flood. A mistake my makers would not soon forgive. But I want something far different from you, Reclaimer.

Atonement.

And so here at the end of my life, I do once again betray a former master. The path ahead is fraught with peril. But I will do all I can to keep it stable - keep you safe. I'm not so foolish to think this will absolve me of my sins. One life hardly balances billions.

But I would have my masters know that I have changed.

And you shall be my example."

>>58417041
*sigh* whatever...

It wouldn't have been shit if it was a PC fps... it wouldn't have had half the cult following it has if it weren't the killer app for the Xbox and (with Halo 2) Xbox Live.

>>58417100
>where the people who hate it just hate it without reason.
where have you been these last years
there are reasons in this very thread
the most prevalent being it's grand bland overall dullness and repetition

To >>58416877

and everyone else like >>58416877

The OP isn't asking for your opinion on the game itself, he's making a statement saying it had influence on today's current FPS genre.

Fuck, you guys aren't trolling, you're just so fucking stupid you can't even read the paragraph without immediately going into hate mode and talking shit.

I hate the way the majority of today's teenager's act. Bunch of dumbfucks.

OP Is clearly a console-fag who has never experienced the master race.

Halo 1 on the PC was the best multiplayer experience available at the time.

Lol...Xbox...

>>58417223

The fuck are you replying to a troll post for? Fucking retard.

>Goldeneye takes a lot of credit for stuff that Halo did as well...
Probably because it was the first to do those things. you know, BACK IN THE 90's.
>Halo has had an insanely huge influence on PC games
HA ha, no.
>Crysis
>so many of these mechanics came straight from Halo
See above.
>Halo is as polished as a game can be
In the way a polished turd can be, yeah.
>vehicles integrated seamlessly with the gameplay
>integrated seamlessly with the gameplay
What the fuck is this supposed to mean?
>Gaming would be nowhere now without what Halo did...
ITT we live in a world where Quake and UT never existed.
>you're biased.
The irony here is delicious.

>>58417186

"D: Proud? When I have failed you utterly, how can I feel anything but sorrow?

Bias has come undone. He crossed the line this morning - brought the abomination with him - and destroyed your waiting rescue party.

It's over. We're activating the [destructive arrayed matrix], our shameful last resort.

D: Mendicant Bias is trying to prevent us from firing the Array. He speeds back to the Ark, but he won't succeed. Offensive Bias will stop him, and I will burn this stinking menace in your name.

And then?

I will begin our Great Journey without you, carrying this bitter record. Those who came after will know what we bought with this [false transcendence] - what you bought, and the price you paid.

I can picture you in your garden, surveying all you have created - surveying all you have preserved. And I curse the circumstance that keeps my finger on the trigger.

D: Of all the fates to befall us, this is the cruelest of all. My inaction and hesitation and foolishness kept me here, on the wrong side of the line. And [300 years[?]] of our society's failure and miscalculation makes me your executioner.

// FRAGMENT ENDS // ALL RECORDS CEASE"

This stuff is just awesome.

I wish they made a game about this whole part of the storyline.

I dislike Halo because it's an FPS and I hate FPS. Nothing to do with PC vs. console.

>>58416487
Halo didn't do anything that hadn't been done before, it was just a good merger of arcade and tactical shooter gameplay mechanics, that's it.

>>58417123
The fact that it was an FPS that worked so well on a console is why the hell not... ideas like being able to melee and throw grenades without changing weapons were born from having limited buttons on a controller. Call keyboard and mouse "superior" but the gameplay revolved around the controller. It's a console game through and through and it can't be appreciated outside the context of the original Xbox. It isn't the same game on PC. Plug in a controller at least...

> not many people realize that Halo also has a very well thought out and intelligent storyline.

Ok, this thread and everyone in it can officially go get fucked.

>>58417406
Hahaha... give me a two sentence outline of Halo's story if it's so simple. It should be easy for someone so intelligent.

>>58417284

LOL I TROLL YOU KEKEKEKEKE

>>58417396
And this negates it's influence how?

>>58417456

Space marine defends humanity from space aliens and infestation.

There, it only took me ONE.

I dislike halo because of the way it feels.Shooting someone for a whole minute to maybe kill them? That's not skill. That's casual shit.
If you don't want to get caught up in that, you need to run as fast as you can for the nearest overpowered weapon.
Almost no aiming, no skill needed. The only way to kill someone is to go one on one or have a buddy with you. A skilled player can't even win against two or more people. In fact, a skilled player doesn't exist at all. I will reiterate, this is just casual shit.

>>58417404
Play it on PC and you'll see it's fine without a controller.

>>58417487

Yep...I did. I trolled you.

UMAD?

>>58417456
Just because something is long doesn't make it intelligent or interesting.

>>58417456
Aliens have overtaken an interstellar doomsday weapon, are you a bad enough dude to save Earth?

>>58417500
NOTHING NEGATES ITS FUCKING INFLUENCE
MUCH LIKE A HUGE MOUNTAIN OF SHIT IN YOUR NEIGHBORS YARD

>>58417609

this gif explains how i feel at this moment.

Halo's influence on gaming begins with casual FPS games and ends with throwing more money at marketing than at the game will equal more sales.

>>58417615
But the fact that you have no idea what you're talking about is quite hilarious... look up "Halo: The Story So Far" I'm sure someone has put it up on Youtube or somewhere. It's a 30 minute documentary that came with Halo Legends.

>>58417538

Yeah sure, anything can be simplified to one sentence.

Lord of the Rings.

A man belonging to a race of halflings comes into possession of a ring imbued with evil power and he has to take it to the volcano that it was forged in to destroy it.

By the way, you're completely fucking wrong about Halo's story.

>>58417586
And shooting someone in the legs for a split second for an easy ass kill takes more skill(aka COD or any game related)? I'm pretty sure you may have down syndrome.

>>58417645
wrong, lol

>>58417724
Bullshit.

Any game that requires you to read a book or watch a video is not telling the story correctly.

>>58417586
>Hasn't played Halo

>>58417586
Same could be applied to Half Life, but I bet you fucking love that.

>>58417724
I'll agree that the backstory and universe is excellent crafted, the word shit doesn't even begin to describe how poorly they present it in the games though.

>>58417724
>But the fact that you have no idea what you're talking about is quite hilarious...

Actually, we're the ones laughing at you and your ignorance.

>Go watch some shitty half hour documentary

Why waste our time? We're talking about the story in the games here anyway.

>>58417404

No. No I wont. I wont limit myself with your archaic input devices. I'll do whatever the fuck I want because I am MASTER RACE.

I will play it with a fucking joystick, I will MOD it so that my grenades are pokeballs. I will turn the settings to heights that your Xcocks would cry to, I will host servers for player counts that are'nt supported. I will play mods that let me play coop over hamachi. I will make clans and groups over steam, I will perfect my aim with the mouse, I will add hotkeys, I will aimbot should I want to - I will be GOD

And when I am bored of this game, when I have squeezed everything out of this game, I will uninstall it. I will get rid of every shred of it's existence and I will toss it in the (recycle) bin like a used tampon.

>>58417775
Actually, it's all in the games if you've played them all... which you haven't.

Twilight is a popular series of books, this makes them good literature.

I actually blame Halo for how shit gaming is.

It's not a bad game, but it's also distinctly average. However, it sells a ton, so just about every dev tries to recapture that "magic" of mediocrity, so every FPS game now plays like Halo and, if it doesn't, it's instantly labled as "bad".

>>58417852
Lol, this means nothing to me. You've missed the point. You're not hardcore, you're not even a gamer if this is how you see games.

>>58417854
All the games are eh kills aliens and doesn't afraid of anything.

Don't try to pretend otherwise. Halo, as a universe, may have a good story, but the games do not. Not even good video games stories.

>>58417837
My ignorance? What am I ignorant of?

>>58417753
>Yeah sure, anything can be simplified to one sentence.


THEN WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU ASK ME TO SUMMARIZE HALO'S YOU GODDAMN HYPOCRITE.

>By the way, you're completely fucking wrong about Halo's story.

Everything in my summarization accurately describes Halo's story. Take your by the ways and go fuck a rake.

the original Gaylow came with my old comp. truly underwhelming, im amazed its still going

>>58417586

OMG THIS POST IS HYSTERICAL

>Shooting someone for a whole minute to maybe kill them? That's not skill. That's casual shit.

So actually having to TRY when you want to get kills is casual shit? Nice, buddy, real nice.

>If you don't want to get caught up in that, you need to run as fast as you can for the nearest overpowered weapon.

Anyone with any skill in Halo can get kills with the fucking Assault Rifle.

>Almost no aiming, no skill needed. The only way to kill someone is to go one on one or have a buddy with you. A skilled player can't even win against two or more people. In fact, a skilled player doesn't exist at all. I will reiterate, this is just casual shit.

You must fucking suck at Halo then, because a skilled player can carry a team from nearly losing to winning all by his lonesome. Also, almost no aiming? What sense does that make when you need to actually hit whoever you're trying to kill with a lot of bullets? Dont you need to... you know... AIM... in order to have those bullets hit him?

Oh I'm sorry, because to you, a game requiring you to shoot someone for two seconds or less in duration without having to make adjustments to your aiming is some how not casual.

You'd think something that requires only aiming and clicking to get kills is casual.

>>58417870
Good god... OP here, I made that fucking point myself. Try knowing things.

>>58417875
Actually, nothing on the market now plays anything like Halo, its gameplay is really unique, rather, developers try to copy elements from Halo that make no sense in the context of their games, regenerating health and shitty matchmaking being the most popular, I miss game lists so much.

Hey, the OP seems to be making a good point, and I agree with pretty much everythi-

>Goldeneye takes a lot of credit for stuff that Halo did as well... Goldeneye and Perfect Dark were a one off on a single console, there was nothing else like them until Halo

Aw, geez.

>>58417645

>interstellar doomsday weapon

Wow this is so totally wrong its not even funny.

Again, another case of /v/ making bold claims about things they know nothing of.

>>58418000
Play just about every FPS game since Halo was released. They all have that same floaty gameplay.

>>58417910

I can sense your bitterness.

By the way, I HATE Halo. Im just saying that I can make it my bitch, because Halo is a man that looks like he enjoys a cock in his eye.

There are many people who really do disregard Halo because it's popular. There are also many who do not simply disregard, but go out of their way to slander the title.

Our OP, however, has swung the pendulum too far in the other direction and is giving it entirely too much credit. Halo has not influenced the actual mechanics of shooters at all, because it's just not that great of a game. Halo is a GOOD game, but does not provide the kind of cultural legacy that OP would like to attribute to it.

Halo drew many people into gaming, and it has certainly popularized the FPS genre. That is the extent of its influence. Beyond that it is a franchise consisting of decent, playable games.

except for Halo Wars

>>58417936

I wasnt the one who asked you.

I was the one who said that Halo has a well thought out story in the first place.

>>58417968
Thank you. You must obviously have xbox live and not completely suck the nut at this game. Whats ur tag? I may add you.

>>58418000
>Actually, nothing on the market now plays anything like Halo,
>its gameplay is really unique

Fact: Timesplitters was better than Halo.

>>58417755
I just said I don't enjoy casual shit and you immediately assume I play cod?
cod sucks for equal and different reasons. But this is a halo thread.
It doesn't take skill to play Halo. It takes luck. And it's still casual shit.

>>58417852

>I have the ability to do everything but enjoy my video games.

Cool story bro.

>>58418025
>doesn't realise Goldeney and Perfect Dark were the same game

My god I gave you plebs too much credit in assuming you actually knew anything about... anything.

>>58418037
The Halo rings were built as interstellar doomday weapons. What's not to get?

>>58418105
You haven't played Halo if you think it plays like UT...

>>58418192
And you haven't played UT if you think it doesn't.

>>58416150
>yet so many of these mechanics came straight from Halo
>being able to carry only two or three weapons
>grenades being core to the gameplay

go home kid

also
>implying regenerating health was a good feature in the countless games that have it

ITT: you havent played halo man
you just havent played it
you dont know how it is man

>>58418037
>According to Halo's fiction, the Forerunners built the rings to contain and study the Flood, an infectious alien parasite. The rings also act together as a weapon of last resort; when fired, the rings kill any sentient life capable of falling prey to the Flood, starving the parasite of its food.

Considering that Halo is fundamentally a slower paced version of UT with less emphasis on aiming skill and more on strategy/tactics, I'm not quite sure where all the hate comes from.

>>58417586

>Shooting someone for a whole minute to maybe kill them? That's not skill. That's casual shit.

>Taking longer to kill an opponent takes less skill

What kind of backwards logic is this?

If you can't stand games that attempt to do something differently that's your problem. Not all games have to be rehashes.

>Almost no aiming, no skill needed. The only way to kill someone is to go one on one or have a buddy with you. A skilled player can't even win against two or more people. In fact, a skilled player doesn't exist at all. I will reiterate, this is just casual shit.

>I am ignoring the existence of pistols and sniper rifles to make a straw man argument against a game I've obviously never played

>>58418255
This.

I'm going outside. Fuck y'all.

>>58418157
Built by who for what then?

They are not "doomsday weapons" you fucking idiot...

>>58418138

You stupid? When did I say I wasnt enjoying my gaems?

I enjoy a plethora of games, all superioir to HALO.

>>58418230
Halo is closer to Rainbow Six than it is any arcade style shooter on the market right now.

>>58418271
>>I am ignoring the existence of aim assist and magnetism to make a straw man argument for a game I can't stop sucking the proverbial cock of.

>>58418236
Yeah you don't get what I was saying.

>>58418118
Played halo at a house party. Got his face shitted on and laughed at the whole night because even playing on sensitivity 1, a shit load of grenades and a rocket launcher he couldnt manage to put out one kill. Post game carnage: 0 kills 53 deaths. Thus it is concluded that Halo takes no skill.

True story.

Counter strike made the 2 weapon limit popular.
Halo hardly made vechiles popular, if anything they were tacked on compare to BF1942 which did it correctly and was released a year later.

Thank you halo for the addition of quick melee, prolific grenade use, automatic healing and the effect these had on FPSers

>>58418300
>Built by who for what then?
That wasn't the question.

>They are not "doomsday weapons" you fucking idiot...

They were built to destroy and put an end to the ENTIRE UNIVERSE.

I think we can categorize that as a doomsday weapon.

>>58418192
Unreal tournament gameplay is different. Halo your average lifespan is usually a good 30-45 seconds. Unreal the average life span is about 8. Do the math.

>>58418312
see
>>58417910

>>58417606
Yeah, I actually bought a copy on PC to see what all the fuss was about. I'm right... all it's charm is lost on a keyboard and mouse.

>>58418428
>They were built to destroy and put an end to the ENTIRE UNIVERSE.

They were not... someone else explained it, but I can't be assed finding it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_%28megastructure%29

Here you are because you're too stupid to do it yourself.

>>58418472

AM I NOT A GAYMAR? HOW DO I GAEMER? DO YOU KNOW THE SECRET? SHOULD I JUST PLAY ALOT OF HALO?

Casual.

>>58418353

>implying there was magnetism and aim assist in halo 1

You're not doing your credit any favors by spewing such blatantly untrue bullshit.

>>58418472

Cool subjetivism bro. this thread has taught me one thing - Halo fanboys dont grow up.

SW AND HALO are bad. Nuff said

It's like watching a bunch of retards trying to hump a doorknob in here.

That being said this thread, like a train wreck, is too hilarious to stop watching,

Sure is biased in here.

>>58418157

No. No they werent.

The Halo rings are a contingency plan, not a weapon. A last ditch effort made from the only conceivable way to ensure that the Flood were never able grow and consume the entire galaxy.

Turns out the humans discovered that the Halo rings arent weapons in the sense that it is used to win armed conflicts. The Halo rings are designed to kill all sentient life in the galaxy within a certain circumference, because sentient life are the food of the Flood and you cannot use normal means of destroying something in order to eliminate the Flood.

>>58418380
It's casual shit because you have almost no input into how well you'll do. Empty the magazine and pray he doesn't have a rocket launcher. I'm sorry if I offended you or something man, but damn this game just sucks. I suppose if you enjoy it, that's your thing, but I derive absolutely no pleasure from it.

>>58418037

Halo Array - The Halo Array, Halos[1], alternatively known as the Sacred Rings[2][3] by the Covenant, Fortress Worlds[4] by their creators, and Installations by the AI Monitors that run them, are seven massive ring-shaped installations constructed by the Forerunners throughout the galaxy over one hundred thousand years ago as a last resort when combating the parasite known as the Flood. When nothing else could be done, they activated the rings which killed all sentient life forms within three radii of the galactic center.


Taken directly from the halo wiki, they are doomsday weapons you fucking child.

>>58418581
The fact that you just called me a casual kills your already paper thin argument. Everything you mentioned is peripheral to gaming itself, you ant the entire "master race" are so completely un self-aware it's kind of funny.

>>58418428

No, no they fucking werent.

Read >>58418890

I only read about 25% of that wall of text but
0/10

Halo is probably the only RECENT FPS which focuses not on the casual gamer. If you think about what FPS's are out there now Halo keeps things quite competitive. BC2 and MW2 are casual games in my opinion. They don't take much skill just common sense.

Anything remotely casual about the game the community ignores and asks for it's removal.

UT is dead and Quake is dying. If Halo didnt exist we'd be in a deeper field of casual FPS i think.

>>58418939

THE RINGS DONT KILL THE FLOOD YOU IDIOT

>>58418890


Someone here doesn't understand the phrase "doomsday device", so I will continue quoting.

Doomsday Device - A doomsday device is a hypothetical construction — usually a weapon — which could destroy all life on a planet, particularly the Earth, or destroy the planet itself (bringing "doomsday", a term used for the end of planet Earth).

>>58418939
They are a last ditch effort for the forerunners to protect themselves from the flood. A by product of this is that every other living thing in the universe is killed.

I cannot believe I am arguing this to someone who hasn't played the games... you can't even read the wiki article correctly.

>>58419079

Please quote the part where I stated that the rings killed the flood.

Reading is tough, huh?

>>58419080

The Halo rings arent a doomsday device in the sense that they're being used in order to win an armed conflict.

They are a CONTINGENCY. PLAN. Armed conflict doesnt kill the Flood, starving them of their food does, their food being SENTIENT LIFE.

Anyone feel like 1v1ing me in Halo 3 (and getting crapped on) send a Friend Request to "RnR Phake"...I'm sick of this thread and all of it's halo hating, pigeon fluffers. Halo pwns all of your FPS's. Nuff said. Peace /v/aginas back to /b/ i go.

>>58419121

I was stating that you are completely unaware of the reason why they destroy all sentient life in the galaxy.

Seriously stop talking about something that you just pull up a wiki article on and dont even read into.

>>58419121
"You have no idea how this ring works, do you? Why the Forerunners built it? Halo doesn't kill Flood, it kills their food: Humans, Covenant, whatever—we're all equally edible. The only way to stop the Flood is to starve them to death. And that's exactly what Halo is designed to do: wipe the galaxy clean of all sentient life. You don't believe me? Ask him."

>>58419079

They contain the Flood, but the rings CAN kill the Flood.

OP I just want to say that I agree with your post 100%. I've been a big fan of halo from the start and own all the games on both xbox and PC. I actually wish that the series was cross platform (PC/360/PS3) because it breaks my heart when I see so many people hating on an exceptional series, when a lot of that hate stems from the it's status as xbox exclusive.

But you lost all credibility when you said the xbox version of Halo is superior to the PC version. That just simply isn't true and you are just making yourself out to be a console fanboy, and by extension, diminishing halo's already poor reputation by saying such things.

>>58419110

I've played all the games and am currently testing Reach, since I own ODST. I personally love the Halo storyline, you are just remarkably stupid.


A weapon is defined as a tool designed to apply force for the purpose of causing harm to persons, animals, or structures. The Halo rings were a last resort for the Forerunners to prevent the Flood spreading any further than they had by killing every sentient being within the blast radius. The rings perfectly meet the criteria of a "Doomsday weapon"

Let me tl;dr this thread for everybody:
>BAWWWW HIS OPINION IS DIFFERENT

>>58419172

Jesus christ, who can't read now?

DOOMSDAY DEVICES ARE NOT DESIGNED TO WIN ARMED CONFLICTS.

At what point did you think that destroying the planet we live on would win a war for anyone?

The entire point is that it kills EVERYTHING, bringing about a "doomsday". In the case of the rings, it kills all sentient life, same fucking thing, since flood without a food source are inactive.

I love the Halo series, but the XBOX as a series of consoles is shit, if you ask me. Too bad I'm caving, and will finally be getting a 360 for Halo games and what's left of Rare.

>>58419278
You don't fucking know what you're talking about... see:
>>58417404

Fanboys and haters aside, the original Halo was pretty fun around the time with a strong multi-player. It deserves some credit for popularising games among less obsessive communities for better or for worse. After that there isn't really a whole lot to say, it's not some grand revolutionary innovation to the genre, it didn't reinvent the First Person Shooter genre, it just presented a well polished similar system everyone could work with.

Of course, fans will tell you it's the best game ever and haters will tell you it encourages developers to dumb down games to jocks who don't want to waste time getting past a huge learning curve of a completely new system.

Halo is just Halo. It's a good game, but far from the greatest game and the longer along the franchise you go the less effort they've put in to actually try anything new or exciting. Halo is SAFE, it's easy to get into.

THEY SEE ME REACH-AN
THEY HATAN

>>58419274

Doesnt rule out the fact that using the Halo rings to only kill flood is fruitless, because as long as they have some kind of food they will continue to grow.

Armed conflict does nothing to kill the Flood, thats why the rings were designed to kill their food.

>>58419254

Yes, but at what point did I state that the rings kill the Flood?

You are a fucking moron, why am I even arguing with you mouthbreathing chucklefucks?

There are those of us out there who enjoy Halo and it's storyline, but recognize it's true place in gaming. No Halo did not invent anything, and is overall pretty mediocre as far as pushing the envelope, but it is fun, and entertaining.

We aren't all like these fucking tools.

>>58419378

Fine.

>>58419378
They're not being used to end an armed conflict... the conflict between the humans and the covenant is a completely different story to the forerunners trying to get rid of the flood. All the trilogy stuff came much later.

It isn't a "doomsday" device... it's not some evil super weapon or whatever... you do not understand it.

>>58419454
>Halo is SAFE, it's easy to get into.

And that's where Halo is good. A game can be complex, but at the end of the day, a game that's simple to play is what some people will want to play to unwind.

>>58419378

Usually the term doomsday device is applied to something that is created in order to ensure power for one side of a conflict or power for someone who desires it, like super villains or something.

Halo is fun because of the crazy multiplayer games it has, and the great storyline. They don't just say, Go on and kill some people until you get to the score limit, they say, ok, shoot this guy, and when he dies, he'll drop atleast one flaming skull. go get that skull, and any other skulls you find, and bring it to the capture point without dying. The reason halo multiplayer is king is because of it's very diverse gametypes, and as a side note, because of splitscreen online multiplayer. Also, Bungie is one of the few devs that really listen to their fans, so they can make almost everyone happy. Not a single other dev shows that much attention to their fans, or as much creativity as Bungie. So i will stick to halo.

>>58419422

Fuck you, I know exactly what I'm talking about.

I personally don't judge a game based on DURR NOT ENOUGH BUTTONS? THATS TOO CASUAL FOR ME. And if you think halo's only deciding factor that distinguished itself from other shooters was the controls, you know shit all about halo.

>>58419484

Whether or not you stated it isnt the point.

The fact that you made it seem like you were completely unaware that the Halo rings werent initially designed to kill Flood and Flood only, is the point.

>>58416150
10/10
oh you're good
real good

>>58419558

So if I build a doomsday weapon, then someone comes along and calls it something else, but it still does the exact same thing, that makes it not a doomsday weapon?

Jesus christ you're fucking retarded.

Not to mention that the Covenant wanted to use it as a doomsday weapon in the truest sense, that it would bring about their "rapture" of sorts, their religious end of days. That crosses from the literal to the theological intent of a doomsday weapon.

If you will try actually reading my posts, you will see that I have been making the point that doomsday weapons ARE NOT INTENDED TO RESOLVE ARMED CONFLICT. Unless by resolve you mean "Kill every motherfucker that ever even knew about there being a conflict in the first place"

Okay now son, try thinking before you post.

>>58419688
Inb4 MW2 FUCKING BEST ONLINE EVAR

>>58419722

Dude just shut the fuck up. The first post I made in this thread describes the exact process by which the rings were intended to starve the Flood to death by killing all sentient life.

Seriously man, you have no fucking point.

Halo is also the only modern FPS with colour.

I love how people say Halo has no story when it has an entire wiki devoted to it with most pages being incredibly in depth with citations for the information.

>>58419654

No they aren't. Supervillains usually build them because they are insane, and actually want to end the world.

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>>58419847
>Halo
>only FPS with colour

>>58419722

My first post also describes them as "Fortress Worlds", now go back to preschool.

>>58419601

Well that's what I said, it's a good competent shooter. It's not fucking JESUS of the FPS genre though. At best they popularised some interesting ideas in the original and got a huge new audience into gaming, for that Halo is notable, but it doesn't make Halo the best FPS ever.

Halo ultimately is a bunch of reasonable safe ideas put into a easy to pick up game, even the plot is simple enough to follow you could skip out sections, play what you want and still enjoy the game. There was practically no risk in the way it was made, no effort to try something vastly different and these days Halo doesn't so much lead as maintain it's position taking popular ideas from other games, incorporate it into it's own and keep moving with the pace.

>>58419826

Are you dense?

The part of the wiki that you quoted only states that they are a last effort for "combating the Flood." It doesnt explicitly state that killing all sentient life means starving the Flood of their food.

All I'm saying is that by quoting that and that alone, you made it seem like you had no prior knowledge of the story elements and were just pulling up information from a wiki.

>>58416150
My problem with this game is that it made millions of people that should never have been gamers. Now everything wants the success of Halo and has flooded the market with cheap imitations of it. Not to mention it's annyoning hardcore fanbase.

TLDR: Fans mostly ruined it and they did it so well it fucked up nearly a decade of games.

>>58419949
You forgot modern from the quote. Silly Billy

Team Fortress 2 on the PC is the only FPS you will ever need.

>>58418106

Timesplitters 2 will always be a classic in many gamers hearts, but didn't manage to get the same popularity because it's too cartoony and arcade like. The general gaming community wanted to be MATURE GAMERS who play MATURE GAMES about killing and stealing. Running around as a fairy on fire, sniping melons that Monkeys are carrying around to the tune of Anaconda just doesn't sit well with HEY BRAH, WHAT YOU PLAYING, PUT ON SOME HALOS AND WE'LL OWN THOSE FAGGOTS.

>>58420189
Ha ha, no.

>>58419770
That's the sad part. So many underage gamers are taken in by repetitive gameplay mechanics nowadays, anything thing with a single shred of creativity is thrown away, because they will get frustrated with it because of the unusual gametypes. If you have just a bit more patience with halo than with other games, you will have a great time with it. Got killed five feet away from the skull capture point? Sure, you can be mad, just keep playing. Who knows, maybe you'll get to do the same to some one else. You need to be an optimist with games like halo, because if you're too negative, you will end up ragequitting. People need to realize things just don't come easily. Once you know you have to really work to be at the top of the list in Halo at the end of the game, you come to accept the frustrations. Once you accept the frustrations, it's a very fun game.

>>58420189

TF2 had some new ideas and did pretty well for itself to encourage actual team play, but it's not without it's weaknesses. Too silly for some, and alot of people like games like Halo exactly because they get to run around as a one man army owning lesser players without having to rely on their team to win matches. Team Fortress has always revolved around team game play and is built around it.

>>58420349

>anything thing with a single shred of creativity is thrown away, because they will get frustrated with it

Which is why games like PoP2008 were hated and now the Sands of Time universe with outdated graphics and an unneeded continuation of the storyline was brought back.

The fact of the matter is, people ruin the gaming industry by not buying great games, which forces people to continually dumb them down in order for them to sell to an audience that never played video games before.

Case in point: Nintendo. The Gamecube had a great library of games. Didnt sell well. Many of the people who played games last generation had been playing games for much longer before hand, meaning Nintendo could no longer rely on selling to those that had already loved video games for a decade and a half.

So what do they have to do? Sell to those that never played video games before. Make a console that targets everyone and not just people who already play games (again, because people like you arent buying them).

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Once again, /v/ demonstrates its vulnerability to being trolled.

GOD FUCKING DAMN IT EVERYONE JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY!

Halofags: The halo rings are doomsday weapons. Get the fuck over it and stop being so evasive. the original request of
>give me a two sentence outline of Halo's story
was a fucking stupid way of getting your point across.

Halohaters: What you should know is that halo does actually have a lot more complicated storyline than
>Aliens have overtaken an interstellar doomsday weapon
While that is basically the story throughout the first act ,the plot takes several turns and has a pretty big twist half way through the game instigated by a betrayal.

Or should I say.....

TWO betrayals.

PC fags played the fuck out of Halo 1 when it was on PC, cried when they found out 2 wasn't going to get ported, hated 3 and beyond right off the bat because they knew they weren't getting ported either.

The Master Race experiences rectum pain in a more spectacular manner than any other group of gamers, it is most pleasing to watch.

>>58420483

Whoops, forgot to take out that "people like you" part. I wasnt designating you, the whole thing was a response that I posted a while ago.

>>58420573

Fortunately 2 and 3 were missable anyways on account of them not really doing anything to add to the FPS genre.

>>58420573

Its because of people like >>58417852, who are apparently more interested in trivial things and less about enjoying their games.

No one cared about any of those things when the SNES was popular, they just played their games and had fun.

Which is the main reason for the difference between idorts and console players, and master race faggots.

>>58420349
You're pretty much spot-on with the frustration thing, headhunter can be fucking rage inducing, if you go for kills. You have to wait for people to kill each other. For example:

>Headhunter on Powerhouse
>see guy with star over head
>He gets in a melee fight
>Simultaneous deaths for both of them
>Take 10 skulls
>Go to capture point
>Skullimanjaro, game ends.

If Halo hadn't come around, we would probably still be playing FPSers like Goldeneye. Goldeneye aged like shit.

There was no game until Halo that SEAMLESSLY intergreated vehicles into gameplay.

They also mapped Grenades, and Melee their unique buttons. No one had done this before. Before this, you had to scroll through 10s of 20s of weapons in your infinite space marine backpack, before you could even get to your melee and grenades. Halo CE was also very realistic in that regard. Master Chief could only Carry Two guns, he had to make a choice about what guns you needed.

That Rocket Launcher looks nice, but if I throw away this pistol, I will lose out on hundreds of shots for a nice chance at killing a ghost or something.

Halo Had a lot of Depth in it's weapons too. Every single Weapon had it's own flavor. None Felt Samey. Plasma Pistol could be charged up, and the charged up shot could track enemies and destroy their shield. The Plasma rifle could slow enemies down. Ect.

I am not even going to talk about the Pistol. No singular weapon in all of FPS except the Crowbar in Half-Life, s Iconic to gamers as the Halo Ce pistol. Anyone who was at a Halo LAN, just knows the amazingness of that spawn weapon. It was not the best gun in the game. But it did balance it like the fist of the north star. The Pistol is what Made Halo so popular as a Competitive FPS in the first place.

Niggers ITT, don't know SHIT about Halo.

>>58420914

>implying Halo invented most these changes.

>>58420074

I cut out the part of the article that specifically laid it out, fine.

The point I was trying to make was that the rings can easily be classified as doomsday weapons, which they can.

Though your assumption that I did not know the purpose of the rings after I clearly stated that I own and have played all the Halo games including Halo Wars, and am playing the beta for Reach really should have been a clue, numbnuts.

Also I want to mention that Halo has a fucking phenomenal soundtrack.

>>58421005

I think the actual attributing factor to my idiocy is the fact that I really didnt notice that you were posting with a name and I didnt see any of your prior posts.

>>58421016

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXLNB2K-YA0

hell yes it does.

1 was a pile of shit already, the rest were just horrible.

>>58420914

>no weapons felt samey

They all look and feel like different versions of each other.

>>58421161
Well, that's just like your opinion man

ITT

A bunch of opinionated nerds sticking it to "the man" by hating on something that is popular.

>>58420722
2 & 3 had some balance issues, sure, but they still made a lot of good changes to the game. The maps alone were a huge improvement over 1... but I'm sure that doesn't mean anything to somebody with so much colon discomfort that they write them off as missable.

>>58421157

>making an example of halo's soundtrack

I think you posted the wrong URL, bro. Let me help you out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WtBjHL8KXE&feature=related

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1fPUejOTB8

>>58421092

Oh, fair enough.

>>58417538

Half-Life.

Scientist defends Earth from Extra Dimensional Aliens.

I did it in ONE.

Hating on halo does NOTHING for anyone. What, you think people will suddenly not like it because you are bashing it? Do you think the halo series will die if you insult it? Do you think you will make people feel guilty for playing what you designate as a "bad game"? Halo is one of the most popular series ever created, deal with it. Nothing you can say will ever, ever change that.

>>58421289

>posting on /v/
>calling other people nerds

oh u

>>58421446
Amen

>>58421289

ITT: Popular = Good

see Twilight.

>>58421446
Hating on Twilight does NOTHING for anyone. What, you think people will suddenly not like it because you are bashing it? Do you think the Twilight series will die if you insult it? Do you think you will make people feel guilty for reading what you designate as a "bad book"? Twilight is one of the most popular series ever created, deal with it. Nothing you can say will ever, ever change that.

>>58421446

Hating on Twilight does NOTHING for anyone. What, you think people will suddenly not like it because you are bashing it? Do you think the Twilight series will die if you insult it? Do you think you will make people feel guilty for reading what you designate as a "bad book"? Twilight is one of the most popular series ever created, deal with it. Nothing you can say will ever, ever change that.

>>58421723
>>58421726

OH SHIT, TWILIGHTMIND

I used to hate on Halo for being shallow like so many people on /v/.

And then I actually sat down and played it.

>>58421636

Protip: no one on /v/ has read twilight, but they pass it off as bad literature regardless.

Also, this is a stupid analogy as twilight has a very specific demographic. Halo does not.

halo is a fun game. most people find it fun. that makes it a good game.

stick with your shitty JRPGs /v/, and keep telling yourselfs that those weeaboo peices of garbage moe shit are better than halo.

>>58421860
Teenage boys.

>>58418411

Halo was in no way influenced by Counter Strike. The games are absolutely nothing alike. Halo has a much different flow than CS, you know, with the respawning, and the grenades you can throw without making yourself completely vulnerable to awpfags.

>>58421636

The audience Twilight was aimed towards loves it, therefore it was good.

Likewise, the audience that Halo was intended for loves it.

Being an opinionated ass at the end of the day just makes you an opinionated ass. I'll keep enjoying my Halo while you wallow in your negativity.

>>58421723
You think you are actually hurting my statement, but you are buffing it. Though I hate twilight, I do not insult it because it does nothing to the popularity and how its fanbase likes it. A large amount of people like twilight, and you can't change that. A large amount of people like halo, you can't change that. Thank you for proving my point.

>>58421003


It took them and made them good. That's why no one else likes the shitty game you like. Fucking ronery faggot.

y'all niggers postin' in a troll thread.jpg

>>58421957

If by "teenage boys" you mean the demographic of basically every other competitive shooter, then yes.

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This thread is full of shitty trolls and under age Halofaggots, hell, I bet one of those queers from Halopedia might be on here......

/v/ hates Halo because /v/ has no friends to play Matchmaking with.

They go in alone, get kids on their team, and bitch that the game takes no skills. Halo has some of the most unique gameplay ever, and Bungie's Post-Release support for the game, is only outdone by Valve and TF2.

Bungie, is very much the console version of Valve. They fucking love their fans.

To everyone saying that Halo 2 > 3, you're a fucking mongoloid.

2 Was fucking broken as shit, glitches everywhere, cheating kids, fucking racist kids, kids that thing it's cool to say fuck every ten seconds, Action replayers, 2 good maps at launch, broken guns, mother fucking shitty FOV, muddy graphics, stupid plot, fucking rage enducing ending to that stupid plot, Broken spawn weapons, I should not have to walk 3 miles in sniper territory to find the other half of my fucking gun.

Halo 3 fixed all of this shit, and is therefore a much superior game.

>>58422329

Could be, I laughed when someone went on about how good the Halo plot is.

The MOST Halo did was prove that FPS can be done, and reasonably well at that, on a console, which GoldenEye and Perfect Dark had already proven at that point. It's an okay game, but it's not like it really did all that much.

>>58422438

Name a game series that you like.

Post about it on /v/.

Watch as /v/ tears it apart like they tear Halo apart.

You're not somehow superior because you dont like Halo.

>>58422529

>canihazacheeseburger.com

10/10

>>58422430
I'm afraid there is some truth to this statement:

>cheating kids, fucking racist kids, kids that thing it's cool to say fuck every ten seconds

I did had to put up with a few racist homophobic punks in my time, but for the most part my Halo 2 online experience was great for the most part. Even though I only played 508 games the whole time I owned the game. ;_;