>>58411670
/v/ barely influences the world, chum.

>my opinion

stop reading their

>>58411737
Hell /v/ barely influences /v/.

I agree. I own a ps3 and several games, but I stopped playing because ps3 games here are too expensive.

>>58411737
That doesn't explain how moot got on time magazine as the most influential person in the world.

>>58411753
Lrn2makesense

I agree somewhat. I have found no use for my 360 since buying my PS3 and will be using it for the first time in around a year for Alan Wake.

/v/ just says shit like that to piss off fanboys.
derp

ps3 does have the better exclusives, and even though I'm a ps3fag, Sony has nobody to blame but themselves to blame for getting ass-pounded this gen, releasing at that fucking price point.

>>58411775
The fact that the list is mostly bullshit does though. There's a reason Time Magazine's never been on Time Magazine's list of the most influential people in the world.

>>58411737
I am aware that it doesn't affect things IRL like sales, I was referring to the fact that in a console comparison here, the ps3 is just deemed "no gaems" without any supporting reasons.

>>58411816
I actually know some idiots in real life that DON'T visit 4chan, but they seem to think ps3 has no games.

The meme does spread.

PS3 has bad reputation because of Sony.
PS3 HAD no games 2 years ago.
PS3 was too fucking expensive.
Now it's great console. I don't regret buying it after the price drop

>>58411838

Yep, price and arrogance was the biggest factor.

Price and arrogance have decreased, sales have gone up.

Sony math.

>>58411737
4chan has created most of the utter shit that ruins the internet these days.

>>58411876
>>implying that even then it was more expensive than 360 including all the features you had to buy for 360 that were included with ps3

>>58411876
This, 100%. The PS3's the only console anyone's ever said "just wait for X, then it'll be worth having" about... that actually ended up being worth having.

all of the trolling simply makes the 360 fanbase look immature. of course, there are many cool 360 fans out there, so I just ignore the derp.

>>58411951
That's the problem though, the average consumer doesn't see "value" they see the price tag.

The only thing worse than PS3 fanboys who are still hung up over nogaems are the ones who refuse to admit that there was a very real and very large frame of time when the PS3 was an $600 movie player, or believe that that wouldn't color the majority of peoples' impression of the console.

>>58411951

>implying I need to buy all the features.

Something tells me OP is a troll, but if they are actually being serious, I agree whole-heartedly.

Actually, the Nintendo Sonystation 3 has too violent games for my child.

>>58412041
Well, I had a PS3 at launch and, I can confirm, it's very true.... but, I also only bought a 360 when Mass Effect came out (with Gears 1 and Crackdown being the only pre-Mass Effect games I bought for it) and Wii had a joke of a library for about the same time as the PS3, and it's worse as it stands.

The 360 and Wii weren't in a much better position than the PS3.

>>58411951
Like what? HDD? Wi-Fi (not everyone needs it)?
Ok, LIVE counts. But still it was pretty difficult to pay more than 500$ for all the stuff.

>>58411737
>/v/ barely influences the world, chum.
This.
/v/ just clings to the meme because most Anon's are socially retarded manchildren with no identity of their own, so they desperately straddle any memes that /v/ busts out, F5ing threads as fast as they can to see if somebody "lol'd" at their post.

Meanwhile, the PS3 has destroyed the 360 in global yearly sales for a few years now.

>>58411775
Not because of /v/ and it's expert opinion, that is for sure.

PS3 + PC

That way, you get most of the console (as in "not on PC")exclusives, nearly all the 360 exclusives (on the PC) and all the PS3 exclusives. In addition, you get tons of PC exclusives.

>>58411870
People who cannot use their FINGERS to count the actual games and believe /v/'s word for theur conclusions are the ones who will believe you if you tell them it's a good idea to stick their penis in a gas station's hose.
Aka, they do not matter.
Let them be sheeple/

>>implying that even then it was more expensive than 360 including all the features you had to buy for 360 that were included with ps3

thats stretching it a bit much, but in general you're correct, the ps3 had everything u needed in one box (except headset), but general public, and especially parents, don't know this shit, they just see the massive disparity in launch price and grab a 360 and go to the cash register.
also not helping, that they had no games for almost 2 years.
and I'm a total ps3fag

It's funny to think, that back during the ps2 days, I hated sony so much, and refused to get a ps2, because I felt that the psxs and ps2s would break down too easily. The saturn had more of the games that I enjoyed, so I used to think the playstations 1 and 2 were mainly responsible for the premature discontinuations of the saturn and dreamcast.

Instead, I got an xbox1. and that truly lacked games. Now I view microsoft as the bad company, after witnessing the RRODs, especially after having worked on xbox game-testing. I always viewed microsoft as hurting the gaming industry, kind of like how EA is.

the PS3 redeemed my opinion of sony.

>>58412230
Wii is optional.

>It is unfair that the better console this gen has a terrible reputation thanks to a dimwitted meme on /v/.

That's not why PS3 is the least popular console this gen, fucknard.

I love the PS3, but damn, if it sucks that I can't pirate games on it ):

>>58412296
>>implying ps3 is least popular

>>58412244

Oh god, did you seriously just fucking say sheeple? Are you eight?

>>58412296
Care to explain then?

>>58412164

There were other factors of course. Sony had horrific PR, whereas Nintendo was really very appealing at the time. The faults that now seem apparent with the wii were practically immaterial at the time. The 360 wasn't fantastic, but it had gears of war, and personal tastes aside, you have to admit that was huge for microsoft. With that and Halo, They pretty much had the market of casual mcmanly shooters cornered, and everyone felt like they were putting out quality software.

> I felt that the psxs and ps2s would break down too easily
I have 3 ps2's (used to 3-box the ps2 Everquest), and they still all work to this day. did I get lucky? one has a gypsy disc tray, stutters while opening/closing, but all of them still work.

>>58411670
>ps3 has a lower amount of games than its competitors, the 360 and Wii

WHAT THE FUCK are you talking about, son?

>>58412296
I find it fucking hilarious that people still thing popularity has ANYTHING to do with the quality of something.

Picture insanely fucking related.

>>58412387
Sure I am.
Whatever makes you feel better.

Sales wise, the PS3 has been dissapointing. But the truth is, I don't work for Sony, and neither do other /v/irgins. Games wise, the PS3 is well on its way to replace the PS2 as the console with the most solid software line-up. As long as their first-party continues to pump out quality IP's, I don't see why not.

I hope to see some kickass shit at this year's E3

>>58412379

It has sold less consoles than the Wii and 360, it is BY DEFINITION the least popular.

>>58412471
>Sales wise, the PS3 has been dissapointing.
wat
Sales wise, the PS3 has been outselling the 360 for over two years now

>PS3
>Better console than anything

>>58412521
>It has sold less consoles than the Wii and 360, it is BY DEFINITION the least popular.
Wii? Of course.
360? It's been outselling it for years now. The game (which can be attributed solely to Microsoft's early release) has been closing rather quickly.

The PS3 isn't in last place because of a stupid meme. It's in last place because it had no great exclusives for ages after launch, because it tried to sell at a ridiculous price (the "you have to buy extra stuff for 360" argument doesn't really hold well given the size of the gap), because it was a massive device for the first several years, because cross-platform ports were always (and are still often) better on the 360 thanks to Sony's retarded way of designing their console architecture the way they want it rather than the way developers want it, because it launched far later than the 360, and because Sony did everything possible to alienate gamers from their products before and after the PS3 launch. It's in last place because Sony did everything wrong, not because of some stupid /v/ meme.

They fucked up and they're paying for it, which is entirely fair. Better luck next gen.

"nogaemz" is thankfully, and surprisingly the only meme I haven't heard shouted all over the internet, out side of 4chan.

>>58412526
Yeah, by a very very slim margin. Back in the PS2 days, Sony used to destroy competition without much effort. The PS3 hasn't been up to par with the PS2 when it comes to sales and therefore has been a dissapointment. But like I said before, that shit don't matter to us. We're here for the games and the PS3 has delivered on that.

>>58411670
Everyone thinks the same as /v/

>>58412447
You definitely are. It's nice that mommy let you on the computer since you practiced the piano.

>>58412526

Things don't become popular "just because." If something's popular, it's usually because people enjoy the product. Lots of people enjoying your product defines quality for pretty much every market, including video games.

>>58412471
Sony's first party studios make it IMPOSSIBLE for me to not own a PS3.

I own 42 PS3 disc games,16 are published by Sony... not to mention the number of PSN titles. For any publisher, this is a ridiculous amount of my library.

>>58412580

>The game

You nigger

>>58412580

>360? It's been outselling it for years now. The game (which can be attributed solely to Microsoft's early release) has been closing rather quickly.

360's still in "second place," sales-wise, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

>>58412590
This is 100% true. Sony fucked themselves in the ass with the PS3. They more or less lost all the money they earned on the PS1/PS2 with the price cuts on the PS3.

>>58412580
http://www.digital-digest.com/blog/DVDGuy/2010/04/19/game-consoles-march-2010-npd-sales-figure-analy
sis/

You're wrong. The PS3 has a brief period of higher sales after the launch of the Slim, but that was... well, brief. The 360's been outselling it in both Europe and North America ever since. It has no foothold in Japan, but that doesn't matter - the sales gaps elsewhere more than make up for it. And the 360's still sold considerably more units than the PS3.

>>58412720
Apparently their first-party investments are larger than those of MS and Nintendo COMBINED. They're also the biggest publishers of games, counting both first-party and third-party publishers. Sony ain't on the lazy side when it comes to games and that makes me a happy owner of PS3 knowing that Sony will continue to pump out games for it even though third-parties have abandonded it as an exclusive platform.

>>58412782

One week of Japanese sales close the monthly gap in the US, PS3 is selling more in Europe (360 only sells better in the UK).

>>58412765
in 07, the PS3 outsold the 360 by over 1.5 million units for that year.
in 08, by over 2 million.
Sony/Microsoft's 09 fiscal reports haven't been posted yet... but I can see a trend happening.

So while the 360 has still SOLD more, it isn't SELLING more, and hasn't been for years.

>>58412720
>>58412471
I owned one but sold it. The new Sony IP's might attract some people but none of them sold nearly as well as the 360 top 5 sellers.

>>58412845
Going to immediately call BS on their being the largest publisher of games when you include third parties, since I already know for a fact that EA, Ubisoft, and Activision Blizzard are all larger publishers. Would love to see a source for the rest, but until I do I'll assume that it's all bullshit.

>>58412782
>NPD
>I think American is the world.

Please stop being such a tremendous faggot.
The 360 outsells the PS3 in America, yes. Everywhere else in the world? HAHAno.

>>58412887

Where are you getting this information, it's COMPLETELY wrong. Last I checked (a week or two ago), PS3 was still several million units behind 360.

I MAD

i just do the opposite of what /v/ says
thats how i got my ps3

>>58412853
Thats because everyone in UK is 12 and they scream either 'noob' or popular rap songs down the headset and then I die inside a little and never play games again

>>58412952
>>american

>>58412952

PS3's even less popular in Japan than it is here.

>>58412887
I'm not denying that the PS3 is outselling the 360 now. But compared how Sony did last generation and the one before that it's pretty much a complete failure.

They are catching up but are still millions away from the 360, last gen the PS2 outsold the X-box by 4:1

how many of those 360s sold were from repeat customers that had to replace their old one that RRODed?

>>58412949
Gonna have to correct myself on that statement. It's not bigger than Activision Blizzard. I read the article before the merger of those two giants.

Sony should bring back Kaz

>>58411670
My smile kept getting bigger as I read on. But I doubt /v/ ruins the reputation of a console, really it's the 360 fanboys fault. I've seen some of them sign up to a Playstation website just to say the games suck. Wait, why aren't the 360 fanboys attacking this thread, have you anally raped them harder than anyone ever has?

>>58412977
>>58412988
Nice doubles, both of you.

>>58412952
I mentioned Europe in that post too. The reason I didn't give a link for European sales is because they're hard to track, since there's very few organizations there that bother to track sales and just about none that provide specific numbers. The fact that you actually came after me for only posting NPD sales shows that you don't know this, which proves you have no idea what you're talking about. Just like the fact that someone else has said that the PS3 is doing better in Europe outside of the UK when it's literally impossible to know which is doing better in the rest of Europe shows that they don't know what they're talking about either.

Summary: you guys have no idea what you're talking about and you're pulling facts out of your asses.

>>58412845
Sony have always been about continual investment and bulking up their first party studios and third party publishing deals. That's why I'm such a fan, I know they'll deliver games consistantly, even if they don't get the hype or sales of Halo or Mario, they deliver quality products.

Sony are a great publisher from a developer and gamer point of view, how many other publishers do you know would even allow a studio like Team ICO to continue or wouldn't force their first parties like Naughty Dog to produce their franchise hits like Jak and Daxter when the PS3 was struffling, instead letting them risk a new IP?

Even if you hate the PS3, which I can understand, I don't know how anyone can hate Sony for their games.

>Don't even consider buying a PS3 until it drops to 300
>Not even backwards compatible
>Play the exclusives
>Sits on my shelf for the rest of the time while I play my Wii and 360

>>58413187

You viral, bro?

>>58412965
>Where are you getting this information, it's COMPLETELY wrong. Last I checked (a week or two ago), PS3 was still several million units behind 360
Exactly.
A few years ago, it was 7 million units behind.
Then it was 5 million units behind.
Now its, I believe, 3.5 million units behind?

I don't understand why this is so hard for you to grasp.

>>58411775

4chan was never made famous by anything that /v/ did. It was all /b/.

>>58413187
I don't hate Sony or the PS3. There's a reason I went with them over Microsoft this gen. That doesn't make false claims true.

>>58411753

>their

>>58413221
>Don't even consider buying a 360 until it has at least 5 good EXCLUSIVES I really want.
>End up never buying a 360.

>>58413248
Ha, no, I'm just continually stunned that people are so dismissive of Sony.

>>58413265
Actually, the PS3's still five million units behind.

>>58413265

I never denied that PS3 was catching up to 360, but it's still in last place. Nothing I have said thus far has been in error.

>>58413277
>rick roll

>>58411670

>PS3 has a lower amount of games than 360 & WII

PS3 has novaporwaer

>>58413421

noshovelwaer *

I need sleep...

>>58413187
>or wouldn't force their first parties like Naughty Dog to produce their franchise hits like Jak and Daxter when the PS3 was struffling, instead letting them risk a new IP?

They focused on making a action game that would attract more people to the console instead of a platformer. Same with Sucker Punch making a grimdark action game instead of a next gen Sly.

To me it's pretty obvious that the focus was shifted from platformers to action games to attract more people. I would have prefered a new J&D and Sly game instead of the mediocre action games we got.

>>58413360
>The exclusives for both the PS3 and 360 are of the same genre

>>58413056
Oh, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying the PS3 has sold more OVERALL, just that they've BEEN selling more annually for quite some time now.

And yeah, Sony ROYALLY fucked up with the PS3. They thought they could release it and sell on brand alone... h'ooooboy did they fuck up.

But hey, look where a little humility gets you, eh?

another reason why I didn't like playstation at first was because with their psx, they were really pushing the 3D graphics aspect hard. They told Capcom that Megaman can't be 2-D or some shit.

I respect your opinion, but I prefer the 360 exclusive games to the PS3 ones. Halo, Fable, Rare games, Crackdown, Mass Effect and Alan Wake.

Killzone is muchos funos, so are Uncharted and Little Big Blanet, but I've been a huge Rarefag and Halo fan for the longest time, I couldn't give that up, and unfortunately I don't have the funds for another console.

If Sly Cooper ever returns to the PS3 I may consider dropping a few hundred on it, 'other than that, I don't expect I'll be a sonyfriendo anytime soon.

>>58411670

>>58413248

>implying anyone would viral market about a product thats been around for years now on /v/ of all places

>>58413560

>Proving a negative.

Not how it works.

>>58413519
It gets you a last place this gen with a HUGE loss over the PS3 lifetime so far.

I am perfectly fine with my PS3. Great console.

>>58413501
Really?
I don't see any Adventure game exclusives on 360 like Heavy Rain.

And yes, Heavy Rain is an adventure game. Indigio Prophecy was, and Heavy Rain is the same shit. If you call it "Interactive movie" you've either bought into Sony's PR bullshit or are a troll.

>>58411670
>ps3 has a lower amount of games than its competitors, the 360 and Wii
>ps3 lower amount of games that 360

>>58413631
It's not a adventure game. A interactive movie is just what it is.

>>58413631

... Or you've played the game.

Is this thing ever going to get a fucking price cut?

>>58413616
>It gets you a last place this gen with a HUGE loss over the PS3 lifetime so far.
No. It gets SONY that.
It gets ME awesome games due to competition.

I really don't give a fuck how Sony are doing financially.

>>58413691

Is that a joke?

>>58413682
>>58413631
ohherewego.jpg

OP don't flatter yourself, /v/ has influence on dick.

PS3 is recognised as a superior system by people who work with games, and those who use the system - it has many benefits, and people are buying the system to be used as a blu-ray player, media centre, etc.


The same thing that happened with the PS2 will happen with the PS3, towards the end of the products life-cycle, we will see some of the best looking games ever seen on a console.

Remember GTA3?
Remember GTA:SA?

Same system, the developers just learned to do more with it.

>>58413682
>>58413688
Ah.
Well then, brb. I'm gonna go play Monkey Island. It's a pretty good INTERACTIVE MOVIE.

>>58413691

It did? It's at $300 right now.

>>58413631
Alan Wake

>>58413776
>>58413725

In UK I mean

>>58413691
It has had 3.

I wonder how Natal will fare against the cone dildo device

>>58413539
I used to love Rare. I really did. There's a reason Nintendo gave them up, though - all of their best talent's already left, and without them the company's gone so far downhill that I'm not sure it's possible to pull them back up. As for the rest... well, Mass Effect I can get on PC, so it's not especially exclusive. Fable I don't have much interest in - the first one on Xbox was fun but not exactly amazing, the second seemed to be more of the same, and I'm not even interested in the third at this point. Alan Wake doesn't look nearly as good as it was hyped up to be, and while I love Halo I don't really have any reason to every buy another one. As for Crackdown... okay, I'm honestly jealous of that one. With a PC, PS3, and first gen Xbox I honestly don't feel like I'm missing out on anything, though.

>>58413756

What developers think of the console is completely irrelevant. Consumers' opinions are the only ones that matter.

>>58413756
Gamecube's Rogue Leader, a launch title, looked better than anything the PS2 pulled off during its whole lifetime

>>58413838
Natal will sell. Will it be good? Thats a whole another story.
It will sell only because of Microsofts aggressive campaign, which they are going to make, like they did with Halo or Gears of War.
But in terms of quality of softwares, 2-3 great things might come but will suffer from Wii-effect. People get hyped but get also bored very, very fast.

Sonys dildo won't be successful because Sony won't advertise it enough (or at all) and it now suffers from the same thing as PS3 suffered in launch: no games.

>>58413783
>Adventure games
>Alan Wake
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You don't know anything about Alan Wake, do you?
It's a shooter. More akin to Gears than Heavy Rain.

>>58413838
Probably not too well

Since most of the PS3 fanboys are gay and will stick it up their ass, raising the demand for it

>>58413539
>muchos funos
>friendo

>>58413756

Are you seriously implying that San Andreas doesnt look like a muddy puddle of ass?

See >>58413923

I bought the PS3 a year after its release, but i now have... 40 Disc games for it? Spent quite a bit on PSN too, must haves like Flower and I'm a sucker for tower defence titles.

And I have traded / given some away. But it is easily the best thing I have had in vidya in a while. I have a game to suit just about every mood and it hasn't died on me once. And all my not so into the vidya mates have bought them after the price drop and playing titles at mine like Gran Turismo & Motorstorm so I now have a huge network of local people I can play with, I fucking love the machine, and there are still so many games I am looking forward too.

It's like people don't remember the price of the xbox and ps2 at launch anymore.

The PS3 was pretty cheap compared to what they asked for when the PS2 was released. Hell, alot of people haven't figured out that the price drop came from the lower cost of harddrives and bluray players. Think about it, harddrives pushing TB recently became accessible to the everyman at an everyman price.
I honestly loathe the day I have to buy new storage for my 360, due to Microsoft being tremendous sounders, but right now I'm looking forward to slapping my 1.5 TB drive into my Ps3.

>>58413960
You call Heavy Rain an Adventure game?

>>58413954
>Sonys dildo won't be successful because Sony won't advertise it enough (or at all) and it now suffers from the same thing as PS3 suffered in launch: no games.

>no games

>Gran Turismo 5, ModNation Racers, SOCOM 4, LittleBigPlanet, Resident Evil 5 already confirmed

wat

>>58414078

Call me ignorant, but I don't remember the PS2 costing six hundred fucking dollars.

>>58413756
But GTA:SA looked like total ass. Not to mention that the situation with the PS2 wasn't the same at all, because compared to both the competitors that didn't instantly sink it was hilariously underpowered. It just had a price similar to the competition, a good head-start, and some good exclusive that came to it before the other two ever got anything especially worthwhile... so basically, the exact opposite of what happened this generation.

As for developers preferring the PS3... what? No they don't. The PS3 is pretty developer-unfriendly, offering similar capabilities to the 360 but making them far more difficult to actually access. The only developers who say it's better are the ones who develop exclusively for it, and... well, they have obvious reasons to.

>>58414127

I know on launch it cost 700 bucks here in Australia.

Yeaaaahuh.

I have more PS3 games than I do PS2 games.

PS3 is bordering on taking PS2's position as my second favorite console. Since nothing will ever dethrone the SNES.>>58411768

>>58414092
He does.

Because it is.

>>58413960
Holy shit, I'm either being successfully trolled or you're completely retarded

Sure they don't have the same controls, how could you when one is completely based around QTE's and mini-games. But they essentially are in the same situation. Both are adventure games.

>>58414127
I remember I thought it was pretty damn expensive at that time.

Though I was still pretty young so I don't know.

>>58414127
Probably because, you know, it didn't. Consoles were $300 last gen, not $600. Sony fans just happen to like revisionist history - anything to make Sony look better, right?

>>58414106
No Wand-exclusive titles.
Sure, RE5, LBP and SOCOM has a support, but which do you think is better for those games: DualShock or Wand?
Wand is good for Wand-exclusive games.

>>58414325
I looked at the game description, and this is what it said:

>“Alan Wake” is a psychological action thriller from Remedy

ps3 has nogames

>>58414092
>You call Heavy Rain an Adventure game?
Yes.
Because it is.

Indigo Prophecy is the exact same type of game. Go wiki that shit and look at the GENRE.
But then wiki Heavy Rain. The genre is Interactive Movie or some shit.

It's simply Sony trying to create a new buzzword to describe something people have been playing for ages now, but HEY LOOK NOW THAT WE'RE DOING IT LETS CALL IT SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

If you think Heavy Rain is an Interactive Movie, so are Monkey Island, The Longest Adventure, Sam & Max etc etc etc...

>>58413756
>Using GTA 3 and San Andreas as an example of PS2 Graphics.

Bro. if you want to make a better point. Use Metal Gear Solid 3 or Grand Turismo 4.

>towards the end of the products life-cycle

The PS2 still hasn't reached the end of the life cycle. Some of it's best games came at the middle. Hell, I didn't touch my gamecube for almost 5 years because of it.

>>58413923
>Rogue Leader
Again, people use some of the ugliest games as examples.
A good example of good Gamecube graphics capped at Resident Evil 0 and Resident Evil 4.
But nothing on the cube passed Metal Gear Solid 3.
The problem is with the gamecube's graphical abilities is that any game that wasn't Resident Evil or one of the Mascot Games, it looked like balls. And if were lucky it didn't handle like balls.

>>58414474
>Sure, RE5, LBP and SOCOM has a support, but which do you think is better for those games: DualShock or Wand?
For RE5? Wand.
Wiimote was FAR AND AWAY the best control scheme for RE4. I don't see why RE5 would suddenly be different with the exact same control scheme.

>>58414486
And guess what the description for Heavy Rain you fucking sheep?

>Heavy Rain is an interactive drama video game developed by Quantic Dream

But I've played Heavy Rain, it's a great game. It can be considered an Adventure title. So can Alan wake

>>58412186

but every console they sell they lose money on it. they only caught up to the 360 by 500k in total sales and nearly every cross platform game sells better on the 360 then the ps3. (ff13 why wouldn't you want to play in 1080p)

Heavy rain is more of a movie than a game. sorry. I love it, but it's an interactive movie.

>>58414325
No. Adventure games have puzzles, they have actual challenge, they have gameplay... they're games. Heavy Rain has QTEs, but it only uses them to decide the outcome of scenes since having action in an interactive movie actually depends on SOMETHING that takes a bit of reflex or else it's... well, not interactive.

Heavy Rain's not really a game. Its characters can die, but it's designed to make it extremely unlikely for that to happen to all of them. There's no real lose scenario, no way for you to get "stuck" at a specific part (hell, even when looking for clues you can just leave before finding all of them)... just in general, it doesn't play at all like an adventure game, or any sort of game in general. People who call it an adventure game only do so because they don't want to admit that it's a game but don't know what other genre to put it in, so they just lump it in where anything with a plot ends up going when it doesn't fit elsewhere.

>>58414325
>Sure they don't have the same controls, how could you when one is completely based around QTE's and mini-games. But they essentially are in the same situation. Both are adventure games.
Dude. Go play Alan Wake. It is a SHOOTER.
At least watch some reviews. Even the reviewers say it's more akin to stuff like Gears.

>>58414325
Haha oh wow/

I completely agree.The PS3 has nogaems_____________________________________________________________________________________________
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>>58414674

Heavy rain has puzzles. They are the crime scenes, they are better built then most of the puzzles in monkey island.

Have you people even played the fucking thing?

>>58414325
This is actually something I see a lot of people getting confused by.
Alan Wake was certainly presented as an adventure game, but in just about any review you read it turns out the game is very linear, it's a corridor shooter like Gears of War or Uncharted.

I think the xkiddies are waking up

>>58414543
>It's simply Sony trying to create a new buzzword
>I'm 12 and wasn't around for the shitload of horrible interactive movies in the 1990s.
Interactive movies aren't a new idea, asshat. They've been around for a long time, and very nearly all of them have been fucking horrendous. Heavy Rain's just an attempt at doing them right.

lol OP
dont let arsepained 360 kids offend you
the ps1 was better then the n64
the ps2 was better then the xbox
and the ps3 is better then the 360

its always the way
most kids nowadays have an xbox, since there parents have no control over these useless kids these days, they sit at home all day playing 360, they cant afford a ps3, so they rage about it

just ignore it, its more fun to watch them try to troll and fail hard at it
the ps3 is an amazing system
the 360 is a glorified dvd player.

now you watch and see all the angry 14 year old xbox kids that reply to this saying "nogaems" or some other useless shit, it wont matter im off now anyway, have a good one
rot in hell xbros :D

>>58414639
>but every console they sell they lose money on it.
Protip: Aside from Nintendo, who are basically selling you Gamecube Hardware 2.0 (And please don't argue this. Nothing on the Wii looks like it couldn't have been done just as well on the GC) EVERYBODY takes a loss.

Microsoft just subsidize their losses by making you pay to use internet you already own.

>>58414778
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA/
Oh god, this is actually sad.
'Puzzles'.
Sure man, whatever makes you feel competent.

>>58414775
Ok, I lol'd

>>58414674
>>58414778
You're both right. Heavy Rain has puzzles, but the game is constructed so that you can finish the game even though you didn't manage to solve it. You simply just affect the outcome.

Example: when Jaden is desperately trying to figure out who the murderer is.

PS3 has no games.

Actually, it has a worse reputation due to Sony's sheer arrogance when they unveiled the cumbersome, expensive monster and expected everyone and their dogs to shell out $600 for a movie player.

>>58414778
Except there's nothing to "solve" in the crime scenes. You can find little clues. You can pick them up. But they aren't really puzzles - there's no hints or solving involved, you just look at things and talk to people. And like I actually mentioned in the post you were responding to (which you apparently didn't read thoroughly at all), you can SKIP most of that. You don't have to look at all (or even any, in some cases) of the clues, and the only difference they make is in some of the outcomes of the scenes and the end game.

>>58414873

>> "No, I didn't play it, watch as I yell even louder to make my point more valid"

>>58414887
Simply put, no PUZZLES.
You just run through the story, and depending if you triggered a few set flags, you get slightly different outcomes.
Gameplay, presentation, interface, not ADVENTURE GAME.
A fact, IRRELEVANT to Heavy Rain's 'quality'.

>>58411873

i actually used to think it had no games before the meme was around. but back then it actually didnt

>>58414887
So now you concede it DOES have puzzles, but because they don't match your exact criteria, it isn't a game?

It's a fucking game. It is for PS3. You use the Dualshock 3 to control it. It's a GAME.
Stop shouting /v/ meme's at the top of your lungs. It doesn't make you look cool, and nobody is laughing.

heavy rain an adventure game.... definately troll

>>58414941

Except without them you can't really complete the game. You can skip them, but with them You can actually get the origami killer. "Complete" the game, as it were.

Got wii and xbox 360 bought ps3 after price drop
got;
Drake 1 (was shit waste of fucken moneyz)
Mgs 4 (was awesome could have been even better)
Siren blood curse (loved it tho the first 2 gaems were better)
Yakuza 3 (was awesome tho fucking sega cuting down the extras was -_-)
Valkyria croniclolz (enjoyed it)

w8ing for yakuza 4 stoped using it
was it worth teh money up till now...? still contemplating it...i mean exclusives were nice but still...

>>58414858
>Nothing on the Wii looks like it couldn't have been done just as well on the GC
>Super Mario Galaxy doesn't exist

The day that /v/ collectively stops giving a shit about exclusives will be the day that the cancer is cured.

I would love to be proven wrong.

>>58414950
I do not yell.
I press a few keyboards and laugh at you.

>>58414127

Ps2's highest price was 900-1000. Gouger and Middle of Nowhere Prices.
The lowest, most commonly seen price was 500-699 range. These were the launch prices and the price drop came quickly.

But then again, new games were 45-50 dollars back then. None of this fucking 59.99 + Tax, none of this DLC shit either. I mean fuck. I dished out 62 dollars, now you're fucking asking for more money so I can actually finish the game. Alright. I'm thinking to hard. Fuck this shit.

>>58414972
Perhaps he is not the SAME guy?
And his point is not about 'movie or game', but ADVENTURE genre or not?
Fucking faggot.

I'd really be interested in seeing how things would have turned out if Xbox didn't have a 1 year lead in sales. I'd also like to know how many sold Xboxes are refurbishings and people buying it again because of RROD.

America is Xbox land, this is obvious. Japan is PS3 land, which is again obvious. The interesting battleground is Europe. I live in Northern Europe, from looking around you can see a clear majority PS3 when people are asked which they own.

>>58414969
Still doesn't. The problem with the meme is not that it's false. It's that it doesn't encompass the whole truth, namely that none of the current gen consoles have any games.

I have a dream that one day this vidya will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: that all systems are created equal.

>>58414972
>So now you concede it DOES have puzzles, but because they don't match your exact criteria, it isn't a game?
What? I never said that. Stop thinking I'm the other guy.

>>58414968
Okay, now this shit isn't logical. You're saying that it doesn't qualify as a puzzle just because you don't need to beat it? Get out of here.

>>58414999
Uh... no. You're pretty much guaranteed to figure out who the killer is regardless of whether you work out the clues (and actually, the first time I saw the game played through was watching someone else, and they DIDN'T solve it through the crime scene clues with Jayden... and the ending still involved confronting the killer). You're getting the full plot either way, and finding more or fewer clues (which isn't so much solving puzzles as walking around pressing buttons) only changes how "happy" or "sad" the different characters' endings are.

>>58415115
actually, isn't american and japan both wiiland?

>>58415042
In other words: the day we only have ONE system to play games on is the day the cancer will be cured.

>>58415071
The launch price was $300. You can look it up, and immediately find shitloads of articles both involving Sony announcing the PS2's launch price before the console came out and discussing the launch price afterwards.

You're a lying shit, please get the fuck off my internets.

>>58415316

Which will be a terrible day. We need the competition, it forces Microsoft to build consoles as solid as Sony & Sony to develop online features like Microsoft.

Competition is a beautiful thing.

back in the day, the huge /v/ meme was 'XBOX IS HUEG'

>>58415377


http://www.bookrags.com/wiki/PlayStation_2#Price_history

US isn't the only country in the world, bro.

>>58415417
But just imagine what it would be like if you couldn't play movies released for the Sony DVD system, on your Philips DVD system. Sure, games offer other shit than movies (as online services, as you said), but it really IS ridiculous and IS the source to all this fanboy shit.

We would not need to argue about the fucking consoles.

Fuck, it's so annoying seeing the Americans post US only sales numbers and then claim those as ultimate truth, completely forgetting the rest of the world.

>>58415487

>>58415707

>>58415739

>>58415670

That is how the US works. It is ONLY them. If they really thought about the rest of the world they wouldn't be one of the most hated countries world wide. They wouldn't be the only country that while out and about in the rest of the world tell people they are from Australia, Canada, Britain

Americans are fucking douches and don't even know where Canada is on the map. Sure, America is great and all, and I'm an american, but there are whole other countries out there...

>>58415765

>>58415790

>>58415531
If you're saying that the PS2 was more expensive than the PS3 and you're using the $600 price point of the PS3 as the example for that then it doesn't matter, because the US is the country we're talking about. I can't believe you're enough of an asshat to think that comparing the price somewhere like Europe for the PS2 to the price in the US of the PS3 would slide without someone calling you on it.

The PS2 launched at a higher price in Japan than in North America. It was still far cheaper than the PS3. The PS2 launched at a higher price in most European countries than in North America. It was still far cheaper in ALL OF THEM than the PS3. The same applies pretty well everywhere else, so anyone saying the PS2 was more expensive is being a lying douche.

>>58415823

>>58415707
>>58415765
oh god, I've fallen into some kind of time-warp!

>>58415847

>>58415886

Holy crap, the Xbox hueg meme is considerably funnier then nogaems. /v/ really has gone downhill I guess.

>>58415913

>>58415781
>>58415769
Hi. Guy calling the people saying the PS2 was more expensive than the PS3 at launch lying douchebag fucktards here. I'm Canadian. kthxbai.

>>58415941

The funny thing is, at this current time, PS3 has more games than the 360.

PS3hasnogaems was only relevant when the PS3 was first lauched.

The only reason why someone would buy a 360 nowdays is to play halo or cheap pc games that and the graphically inferior multi-platform titles.

Wii is for people who like motion sensor controls and enjoy relaxing by playing video games
PC gaming is fun! Keyboard + mouse are excellent for certain types of games and many great Xbox games can be played on PC too
Xbox 360 RROCKS! It's an excellent choice for people who don't want to spend much money on a computer or simply enjoy console gaming.
PS3 has no games no games no games no games no games no games no games no games

>>58415972

>>58415769
Hey yeah, this thread wasn't shitty enough already.

>>58415998

>>58416038

>>58416064

>>58415316
No. Then the true consumer ass fuckery will begin.
It will be a monolopy run by the greediest corp.
I'm already getting gouged by Microsoft just to play games online. Something I can do for free on every other console I own.
Once my live expires, I will exercise my choice to put my 360 in it's box and fucking never touch it again.

What would stop this one console for making it so you can ONLY play a game after confirming it's DRM by connecting online. To an online service you have to pay for.
Nothing. And there would be no alternative.

>>58415042
Holy fuck, when did you start playing videogames? When the 360 was released on something?

Exclusives ARE the reason why you pick one console over the other. Exclusives are the reason we have quality games, but in reference to today's games, HAD quality games. Compare exclusives of today, to exclusives of the sega/snes era.


Now with this generation, exclusives don't exactly mean anything because everybody is focusing on Social Networking.
This is why I hate my Xbox360. I just want to fucking cut it on, play games, go online and play games./ I cut on my 360, what do I see?
SHIT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH VIDEOGAMES IT'S LIKE I'M BROWSING THE FRONT PAGE OF /v/
OH JEE MORE FUCKING HALO OH LOOK THE WORLDS LARGEST HAMBURGER OH MORE ATTENTION WHORING HEY SPEND MORE MONEY! HAVE YOU SPENT MORE MONEY T?!!ODAY
WHY HAVENT YOU SPENT MORE MONEY!?

And as for it's exclusives. Shooter. Foreza Shooter. Shooter. Shooter. Then nothing exclusive for almost 2 years. I just said fuck it and bought the CHEAPER version on the PC.
No. This is now how this shit should work, but this is how it is and there is nothing we can do ( or I can do because apparently, I'm the only person offended by this shit) about it.

On the PS3 for 2 years, fucking nothing. Nothing exclusive at all. Then , all of a sudden HEY LOOK
ERROR: FIELD TOO LONG

>>58416099

>>58416131

>>58416100
>cut it on

>>58416156
and I'm spent

>>58415790

>>58416100
>ERROR: FIELD TOO LONG

More like,

>ERROR: NO TEXT ENTERED

>an hour and a half later, this thread is still alive
>read more recent posts

Looks like the xkiddies are waking up. Good morning.

>>58416100

>>58415995
Would you like some Wet Ones? Your ass seems to be sore.

KEEP YOUR RECIEPT!