Played FFXI for years, then they announce this. With all the leaks coming out, it's gotten me more hyped up than I know I should be. It's really bad because I know I'm setting myself up for disappointment.

Does anyone know the username/password to cairxiv.net's client download? I am dumb and can't figure it out.

Has anyone gotten a few skills yet in game? Wanted to know something about the battle system. Can you only use anything when your action bar is full, or are there some skills that you can use independent of it?

>>55803133

Fuck my scrotum, what the hell is that?

>>55803228

I would take a guess and say that's Leviathan.

>>55803198
It's split into "Weapon Skills" that you need TP to use and then "Job Abilities". Works somewhat similar to FFXI but skill chains and shit are better with Battle Regimen added in.

>>55803066
In the current shape its in, yes, you would be disappointed.
However, it has a lot of potentional to be something great. Once SE gets past these retarded network issues hopefully we'll get to see the game evolve into a great retail release.

Right now the only thing I can complain about besides the network issues is it's performance and the fucking emote window and the way the character creation works currently. The emote list seems like a really fucking slow way to use emotes... then again I guess typing them all in was pretty slow too.

>>55803366

So the weapon skills aren't on a cooldown, just use whenever you have enough TP? Do they reset your action bar as well?

Also what about thinks like Jump, or other things that offer buffs but not really any combat damage. Are they just on a cooldown, or do they require resources as well?

We require more elvaan pictures. Dem hips and thighs....

>>55803545
giraffes

Shame it looks just like FFXI but with nicer character models. You may argue that it's alpha...but still.

Shame.

>>55803618
Shame you don't know how the battle system has been completely reworked and is much more fun than XI.

It seems they have changed auto attack to picking a specific weapon attack. And using skills changed into picking your nose waiting till your action bar fills.

>>55803618
The mechanics are completely different. The only similarity it has with FFXI so far are the races and some ability names.

>>55803674

Can you really say that with how much has been seen of the game? Sounds like you are just hoping for the best.

Combat still seems really slow and unresponsive. But of course I don't really know that, and am just seeing the bad side.

I recommend you look at this gallery http://img341.imageshack.us/g/20286201.jpg/

>>55803543
I too would like to know this.

At this point im so tired of World of Casualcraft i would play FFXIV even if it was just a complete rehash of pre wotg FFXI.

Having everything handed to you on a silver platter for little to no effort is so frustrating and ruins the entire point of playing a MMO.

>>55803787
Looks like the fucking Konschtat Highlands all over again.

>>55803348

That was my initial thought, but then I noticed it appeared to have bird-like legs.

>>55803887

Would be nice to get the faster paced/more responsive combat/movment system of World of Casualcraft into the world and other systems of FF11/14.

>>55803917
>>55803977

Can anyone confirm that there will be an open beta later? I figured I'd be a shoe in to the alpha considering I have a top end PC and I am a gigantic neckbeard willing to play 60+ hours a week. I am biittteerrr.

PRE EMPTIVE GOTY ALL YEARS
OH SHIT NIGGER

>>55804016

No thanks, i prefer the slow deliberate pace of FF11.

Spamming abilities gets boring really really fast, having to slowly build up to your weaponskill/MB was much more fun to me.

>>55804093
Haha, the cats are vikings now? win.

>>55803887

Was going to ask about the range thing. Maybe it was just because it was low level, but being at "optimum range" didn't seem to do any more or less damage with a spear. Just using bigger weapons meant you can stand a little further back. Wasn't something said about range effecting shit?

If you're an Alpha tester can you give us your view on the game?

>>55804071

Supposedly alpha was only for people with open accounts and other special bullshit.

Im in the same boat as you, absolute top end pc, willing to spend 50-70 hours a week playing, played the ps2 FFXI beta, and had 1200+ days of playtime in FFXI before i quit.


just because i dont have an open account i doubt ill ever get in.

>>55804071
More invites will be sent out with every phase. I don't think you'd have much fun with the state it is currently in anyway.

Alpha is mostly just severe network lag and PCs/NPCs not loading right now.

Once network issues are resolved they might start adding more servers and players in beta phase 1.

i would have sucked a mean dick to have played this alpha

>>55804090

Different strokes for different folks I guess, since I couldn't think any more opposite then you.

>>55803543
Yeah, you need to need wait for the action gauge to fill up before you can use the next ability, weapon skill, or spell.

I play gladiator and if you have a shield equiped you also get a second action bar for all the shield related skills so they're separate of each other.

Weapon skills take TP to use in addition and abilities like jump have a bit of a cooldown.

I AM GOING TO LOCK MYSELF IN A CRYOGENICS LAB WAKE ME UP ON RELEASE DAY

BRO LINKSHELL TO END ALL BRO HOODS

So apparently:

the skills all cost a certain amount of points to equip like blue magic in XI. Seems that the basic magic spells you learn on conjurer can be equipped on melee classes (though they're not nearly as effective as they would be if used by a magic class).

>>55804337

Damn. Was really hoping that just your normal attacks would require waiting for the action gauge, and skills that use resources (like tp), or general class abilities with higher cool downs would be off that timer. Sounds like the game will be a bit to slow pace for me.

Thanks for your response friend.

>>55804205
I canceled my open account literally a week before alpha invites were sent out, too. BITTERRRRRR.

>>55804262

Maybe its because i spent a long time doing engame FFXI and WoW, both as a dps and healer in each game. Every single fight as a dps in WoW required you to basically spam one button constantly and press 1-2 other buttons every so often. It was so mind numbingly boring spamming for hours and hours while raiding.

FFXI wasnt perfect, but i personally preferred the way tp/weaponskills/magic bursts were handled as opposed to dpsing in WoW. Whether it be in a normal xp party or against an endgame boss, it made you feel as if every single hit was precious and actually meant something.

>>55804170
Really not much I can give an accurate opinion on right now. As stated before the game has a lot of issues server-side so monsters won't load and stuff.

Visually, the game looks amazing even if these screenshots aren't a very good testiment to that, it looks much better in motion. The animations are great and so are all the emotes. As far as developing your character goes, it looks like there is a lot more to put thought into than in FF11. You can distribute attribute points, you also get action points you can spend to lock in newly learned abilities to your action bar (macro bar). Some will cost more than others I imagine, you have 20 slots total to use. The details the game gives you on accuracy and attack are much more accurate than in FF11. There aren't as many hidden attributes and shit, which is one thing I always hated about 11.

>>55804205
For those wanting a full size version of that map can find it here http://iup.2ch-library.com/i/i0078456-1271229293.jpg

>>55804674

Is... is that a MUSTACHE on a TARU?! OMFG GIVE ME THIS GODDAMN GAME

>>55804531

Thanks bro.

>>55803887

Would anyone be able to explain this better? Is this just showing player placement like in FFXI? or is this diagram showing an entire new system of spreading buffs (auras?) to other classes in battle.

>>55804486

The endgame of each games is the way I feel the way I do as well. I felt the same way about FF11's as you do about WoW's except that it was slower.

Like I said though, different strokes. Don't want to turn this into a FF11/14 vs. WoW thread, as there are thinks I like about both, even if I prefer one to the other.

>>55804778
It is showing attack ranges for the different classes.

>>55804778

Think it is just showing the range of the different classes/weapons. Square has said something about certain things being more effective at certain ranges, but it is unknown if they just meant "you have to be in range" or if there really is a "sweet spot" for using each classes skills.

>>55804778

Spacing and position have a direct effect on damage and allow certain skills to be used in XIV. The game will show messages like "X hits Y from the far right" and whatnot. Formation comes into play for skills similar to XI's trick attack where a thief would stand behind someone facing the monster, use trick attack, and transfer the hate to the person instead of having the monster turn to you.

>>55804486
Eh, at least in WoW you occasionally had to move or apply some strategy. I really hope FFXIV's endgame won't stick to the formula of "hard = takes 72 hours straight to kill".

>>55804456
I didn't get to level much and spent most of my time trying to log in. But SE said there's "some exceptions" to this and I just havn't gotten to grind enough to know what they are and I don't want to say anymore than this since I don't actually know.

>>55804846

Yep, i totally understand what you are saying. As long as they keep the interactions and... i guess dependancies on other jobs in battle that FF11 had then ill enjoy 14.

As long as they focus on quality instead of making money, i know FF14 will turn out just fine.

>Seems that the basic magic spells you learn on conjurer can be equipped on melee classes (though they're not nearly as effective as they would be if used by a magic class)

Well fuck, no hybrids then. Melees gonna melee, Casters gonna cast. Back to stacking acc and str or gtfo.

>>55805052

Same, I just hoped that some people didn't rage quit like I did and got to a point in game where they could see how it worked.

>>55804863
>>55804966
>>55805003

Ah ok, interesting on that last point. Hitting creatures from various angles/distances causing different effects could be pretty fun

>>55805146

Seeing as how your physical level (where you get to put stat points in every time it levels) stays the same when you change weapons/jobs (that when you level up you get skills from that weapon) it would seem that you are not too far off from the truth. As you would put your stats into where it is most effective for the main thing you want to do, and not want to reset them all the time (not sure how easy that process is going to be anyway).

>>55805146

The reason it's so much better on the magic classes is because their weapons grant magic potency and accuracy. Maybe they'll release swords that boost your magic instead of focusing on just physical attacks?

>>55804778
those are the attack ranges
positioning will be important
it will matter whether you hit something from the front or back (maybe different armor values/hit rate/damage. not sure about the sides)
there may even be an optimal attack range inside the maximum attack range (like lancers who get too close can still attack but with reduced efficiency. unconfirmed, only read it in some interview translated from jp)
some skills will let you take damage in place of a party member if you positioned yourself between the guy and the attacking monster
you have to be inside the aoe of some buff spells to get the effect
obviously aoe damage only hits stuff inside the aoe radius

>>55806896

The text on that confirms something good. That things will not just chase you to the end of the earth and deagro.

>>55803917
wow the game tells you if you got agro.

>>55807435

So since that is confirmed, how easy is it to reset your stats to reuse?

>>55807792
I don't think that function is included in alpha.

>>55807792

I've heard that stat resetting will not be in the Alpha or Beta, but will be in the final build. This is just hearsay though.

This looks fucking awesome. Sadly, it's not my cup of tea. I doubt there's gonna be any PvP.

Kinda off topic, does anyone have a link to the leaked Music?
I hear its supreme.

>>55802847


I heard there isn't going to be any PVP in this game. Can somebody confirm or deny?

>>55808028
http://www.cairxiv.net/music/FFXIVAOSTv2.rar

Here you go.

>>55802847
> SAUSAAAAAAGGGGEEEESSSSS
god forbid some vegetarian/pro-animal group will see that screenshot

>>55808097
There will probably be a ballista-type minigame later on, but I haven't heard of anything about PvP being present in the alpha.

>>55808108
Thank you.

>>55804205
You guys are pathetic. WAHHHHHHHH I DIDN'T GET INTO ALPHA BUT MY COMPUTA IS TEH BEST AND ILL PLAY FOR 9000 HOURS AT A TIME AND ILL REPORT ALL THE BUGS. I BET LITTLE KIDS ARE GETTING IN THAT WONT EVEN PLAY THE GAME WAHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>55808231
Just because it's pathetic doesn't mean it's true!!

>>55808183


Man that sucks I wanted PVP areas, what fun is it building a character if you can't impose your will on other players with it?

I really can't decide which class I want to play. Pugilist seems cool but many of its abilities rely on unrelated effects, such as the enemy having debuffs on them or you having just evaded an attack. That shit sucks. Rangers have some really cool abilities too, but I prefer melee combat to ranged combat in every MMO I've ever played, and bows are like my least favourite type of weapon. Any word on whether or not rangers can use guns?

>>55807923
>>55807904

Cool, thanks for the info.

Honestly I would be surprised if it was easy at all, but who knows.

This ability to use skills from other classes kinda frightens me. I hope they extensively look into not letting anything overpowered possible.

>>55808108

DAT MUSIC

I am going to do things right this time and pick a healing class off the bat instead of spending months futilely trying to get groups with one of the billion dps classes. Yeeeaaahhhh

>>55808299
Weapons are specific to classes so the archer will always use the bow.

If they release guns then it would be specific to a class like musketeer or something.

Another example would be Maruaders not being able to use anything except G.Axe. So a G.Sword would be an entirely different class.

>>55807810
Charging doesn't really seem to do much.

>>55808585
Assuming it eventually scales, it would probably be most efficient to wait the extra 4~ seconds to get a full charge.

>>55807810
30% more damage for 3 times as slow of an attack. Seems gimmick status.

>>55804205

friend of mine was banned 3 times from XI for botting/salvageduping/etc., bought all of his characters except the first one, doesn't have a clue regarding how to play any game, yet he's in the beta (and he isn't even logging in, he said it's shit and buggy as heck).

>>55808585
>>55808655

I think it is more for the extra effects that the charge might give. Like AoE damage, or some other stun or something.

>>55808490
It isn't that weapons are specific to classes, it is that the class is specific to the weapon I thought. As in, you change weapons to bow and your class changes to archer.

>>55808805
>banned 3 times from XI for botting/salvageduping/etc

Sounds like the average ff11 player. Above average if at endgame.

>>55808805
I am mad at your friend. And even more bitter.

>>55808287
>>55808287

I like the fact that they're not going to put much work into PVP if any at all. Experience shows that when you try to force feed PVP into a carebear PVE game, bad shit happens.

Though something like they did for FFXI wouldn't be bad, just wouldn't be balanced at all.

>>55809149
What wouldn't be balanced?

>>55809216
Balancing pve and pvp is nearly impossible. Just fuck that shit, I'd rather not deal with it at all.

No PvP... what's the point?

>>55809149
It's not that it's a carebear pve game, it's that it's a game not built for PvP, and honestly, that's completely fine with me.

Most MMOs have the shittiest PvP anyways, the only good ones are action MMORPGs like DFO.

>>55809216
If you played FFXI you'd understand.

FFXI was made for PVE and so all the abilities were designed for that in mind. In PVP certian job/subjob combinations had an incredible advantage over others because the game wasn't designed with PVP in mind.

Why can't people stop asking for PVP? Please, go. away.

>>55809280

So instead of giving people what they want you want them to go down the lazy faggot path? It's not impossible to balance PvP it's just whiney faggots that bitch and moan that give the illusion that pvp isn't balanced.


No PvP would make this game an unbelievably boring shitfest.

Looking at the screenshots it looks like they at least put a lot of effort to make the battle system a bit more enhanced, and actually having quest making the grind a bit more fun and comfortable.

Guild leves seems just as I thought it would be, finally some quests and I'm sure there are many oriented in group forms and maybe some for instanced areas as well like limbus and so on FFXI.

If they can improve on everything from FFXI this will be great. Sure it'll be a bit of a FFXI-2 but I don't care, it could still change and I loved FFXI.

Although I'm a bit 'meh' about the soundtrack. Uematsu kind of seemed run dry of imagination now that he's made so many soundtracks, and thats not weird. Its not bad, it has a ew memorable tracks but to me, the trio who collaborated on FFXI made a pretty damn good job, Uematsu track were ace with ronfaure, airship etc, Mizuta had some really good tracks that really set the mood.

But I'm not gonna try judging before I hear it all in action, I'm sure it'll change then.

>>55809293
sup 12 year old, in a time before wow we actually had mmos where you adventured with bros and banded together to kill tough mobs, not just kill each other to add to our elitist e-peen size

>>55809442
>He dosen't agree with my point!?
>He must be 12


Derpa hurpa hurr

>ctrl-f falafel
>nothing

I am disappoint.

>>55809442
Go to bed grandpa, you can sit there and dream about your shitty PvE MMO while people who live in the present can enjoy the PvE/PvP mix.

>>55809408
Balancing for PVP isn't impossible, you're right.

What is impossible is making PVP have no effect on how the PVE works as well. With PVE being the primary focus, they only have to worry about makign the classes work around that. PVP completely changes things and adds a whole other aspect to the game if its a major part of it.

Not everyone wants PVP either. If you do, then you need to find another game.

I played WoW for years can truly say I never had fun in PvP.

Haven't really touched too much PvP in any other MMO, but I'd rather just not have it. The people it attracts are disgusting human beings.

>>55809480
see
>>55809531
he basically admitted his pubfag status

>>55809408
I've been playing games with PvP for nearly a decade. Balancing PvP is not easy, and it's even harder when you have PvE to consider as well. Every buff or nerf for one or the other pisses the other camp off and it's a swinging pendulum of anger and unfairness. If I want PvP, I'll go play TF2 or something. I just want to have fun with my bros on FFXIV without getting mad about retarded PvP nerfs.

>>55809531
>enjoy PvE/PvP mix
>whine all day in said mmo forum about other classes needing nerfs and the class you play needing a buff
>developer playing whack-a-mole instead of adding more content

>>55809713
>If I want PvP, I'll go play TF2 or something

Exactly what I think. And this is coming from a WoW player on a pvp server. PvP and the fags that come with it have screwed around too much with the game.

I had fun with PvP in WoW, no doubt about it but it all felt very broken and frustrating. Certain classes would be at miles advantage.

Sometimes you'd get the latest fashion in the PvP gear only to be owned by someone in fuck good PvE gear. A patch would come, one class would be fixed, but another 2-3 would be overpowered and they never managed to snag the right balance.

I liked PvE as well, but the community just seemed a bit retared in that sense. Finding the right guild was fucking hard, some didn't even get through Karazhan, some would raid 6 times a week yet suck balls and kill 1 boss a day in SSC for months and never really progressing, because there always would be one good to mess everything up. Had a lot of fun in it, but the community just really wasn't good and I think without PvP the community will be better in FFXIV avoiding the kids that just want to kill each other.

>>55802847
So, what does this game make unique?
How is it good? Is it good?
Open world? Pvp? Infos pls.

>>55809442
HURP DURP PVPERS ONLY CARE ABOUT EPEEN LULZ!!!!! Unlike you carebear faggots bragging about killing a big dragon. If you think hardcore PvPers are any worse than hardcore PvE'ers youre a fucking moron.

>>55809589
They don't even HAVE to balance the classes for PvP, they just have to add it in. Balancing around 1v1 is stupid anyways (look at WoW), SE just needs to have it revolve around group play.

ITT:
People who suck at MMOs complaining about better players killing them.

Sorry you think scripted monsters are challenging.

>>55810047
>They don't even HAVE to balance the classes for PvP, they just have to add it in.

Guessing that is what you would prefer anyway, so you could play whatever the broken class is so you can get your ejollies from pwning baddies.

>>55810047
dude give it up square will never put in FFA pvp.

>>55810023
Zoning is seamless. No pvp as of yet.

>>55810126
Hey asshat

It's designed around tough NPC encounters

Fuck your PvP and your stupid epeen bullshit.

>>55810138
You can change classes at will, you stupid sack of shit. Enjoy killing your mindless mobs and making your cat-girl look pretty, faggot.

>>55810154

No loading while zoning this time? That is excellent news.

>>55810126
You know, most games are "scripted". Plenty of them are still challenging. Contra is harder than any PvP I've ever done, fuck you.

>>55810225
Holy shit you are stupid. Epeen bullshit? Like people in raiding guilds bragging that they just killed XXX boss in the XXX dungeon? I'm sorry you suck at PvP, but some players actually enjoy playing against opponents with a brain.

>>55810238
>Hey we should just give the scout 300 more hp and make the scatter gun more accurate. It is fair because anyone can change to that class so balance doesn't matter.

u mad

>>55810281
prolly cuz youre too busy dying, scrub

If only you "pro PvP in in XIV"ers played PvP in XI. They simply added one class that to this day many feel "meh nothing special" in PvE, to "fuck i'm not playing this ballista round... / ballista? switching to blu even though 46 of the players are already blu!" Can't balance both worlds guys sorry.

>>55810354
TF2 has a lot to do with MMOs, like classes and... what?

LOL @ people wanting pvp when half the player base prostrate at everything and at every event.

It sure is hardcore gamers in here.

>Waitan
>Impatientan
>NDA Breakan

>>55810401
PvP sucked in FFXI because SE made it suck. Putting a little effort in it wouldn't kill them.

God damn it is so easy to troll as a pro pvp person. All you have to do is keep using words like "carebear" and talk about the only reason to not like it is being bad at it.

>>55810376

Heavy doesn't need to scrub! Heavy has KABOOM!

>>55810476
wat?

>>55810528
No, PVP sucked in XI because the classes were not designed for it. God fucking damn, how hard is that to understand?

Do you realize how much would have to change in order to make PVP a bigger part of XI?

Raiders acting like they don't have an e-peen because they just killed some new boss. Fuckin' lawlin

>>55810563
Back in the day it involved calling others "wusses", "pushovers" or "pussies".

Eternal repetition, eternal repetition...

>>55810730
Everything would have to change because the game is like 7 fucking years old and who gives a shit about FFXI anyways but the faggot fanboys that still play it? Good thing FFXIV is a new game though, huh?!

>>55810830

He isn't saying that pvp would suck in it. He said it did, years ago when they added it. Like 5 or 6 years ago.

>>55810830

yeah we'd look really silly if some people thought they seemed a bit similar haywaitaminute

>>55810830
It's a new game designed for PVE.

If you want PVP you just have to find a different game to play.

i like how there will be no pvp, so the biggest part of the wowtards will not like this game. same with the hardcore raidfaggot since he will not give up his job for a new mmo.

Why does the game's lighting look... horrible?

Everything else is amazing, but the lighting is absolutely terrible.

Give me an MMO that is a PvE game with PvP thrown in that's good.

Thought not.

>MMO
>good
>etc etc

I laugh at the angry wowfag who can't get his little mind over the fact that a mmo without pvp is mostly better.

>>55811011
What's "good" is subjective. WoW to me is a sack of shit, but at one point it was fun to play and it is still wildly successful. Most MMOs start out good until the developers fuck them up.

>>55810916

This.

Go play Aion and see how successful their PvPvE is.

I'll wait.

>>55810606
It doesn't matter what we want. The Japanese won't like pvp. They're too damn polite (among and to themselves). It's bad enough for them that they have to mingle with the western players (frankly I don't give a fuck) who don't kowtow between sentences. How do you think are they gonna feel when they get ganked so hard in the open world by the western players. Whether they fight back or not, they're gonna cry hard to SE. And who's SE gonna listen to? Us or the japanese? Hmm. Yeah.

>>55810938
probably the guys graphic settings

>>55810938

are you fucking retarded? this is not even a full apha version and you whine about the fucking light even though the graphics are already awesome?

PvP sucks, and I don't want it in xiv, ever.

>>55811128
SE will listen to where their biggest market is: North America.

>>55811075
>thinks every who like pvp plays wow
>is a fucking moron

Play a Korean MMO if you want a PvP game with some PvE in it. It sucks a lot, bro.

Maybe one day some developer will find that perfect balance for PvE and PvP all wrapped up in one game, but so far, it's never happened. Shitsux

>>55810938

It's alpha, and the environment textures are at their lowest setings. The monsters look amazing though.

>>55811231
lol u silly troll

>>55811231
>Never played FFXI or dealt with their bullshit

Haha.

>>55811128
lol, I never even thought of that, but ya that explains everything. Personally, I love playing with JP players, when you treat them kindly they almost always return the favor. So many western gamers give them a horrible impression of us, hence the JP ONLY party shit.

>>55811231
Comedy post of the month.

>>55811380

Speaking of which, are they implementing NA, JP, and EU onry servers this time around? Or we going to have to play nice with moonpeople?

>>55811231
Are you kidding me? SE has ALWAYS favored the Japanese. NA GMs aren't even allowed to ban JP players, but JP GMs can ban both!

>>55811231

You got me, I laughed. Hard.

>>55811469
servers will have all nations and all platforms, like XI.

>>55811231
Good one, anon. That sure got me.

Speaking of which, are the JP and NA players still going to be on the same servers, or what.

>>55811231
>SE will listen to where their biggest market is: North America.

Oh god, I think I just crapped myself from laughing. Not about there being more players over here, but thinking that square gives a shit.

>>55811231
Normally I'd disagree with this and laugh in your face, but after playing FFXII and FFXIII they sure as fuck didn't design those for Japanese audiences...

>>55811469
Mixed server like FFXI
Which means game will be designed to be high latency friendly like FFXI
Which means monsters meleeing you from 30 feet when you're running away like FFXI
Which means if pvp exists it will be as awkward and fucked up as FFXI

Just my thoughts. Not official.

>>55811689
FFXII
>Vaan
FFXIII
>Vanille
wat

>>55811689

The reason why the shitty MC was forced into 13 was because square didn't think having a manly older main character would appeal to their target audience. Can you guess what that would be?

>>55811689

Actually, now that I think about it, I think SE said something along the lines of them wanting to move towards more westernized games. I could be wrong though.

>>55811841

FFXIV
>Vana'diel

wait, fuck

>>55809342
Oh I see where you're getting at. I played ffxi back when ballista was going on at full force.

>wanting PVP from FFXIV

It's like i'm trying to order pizza in a chinese restaurant!

>>55811979
I wouldn't be surprised it it just means they want to publish western games. Like supcom2 and justcause2 and kanelynch2.

I love these roleplay faggots so asspained about the thought of having pvp in their little fairy world. Having a ballista type pvp game is fine. You can keep your pansy asses out of that.

>>55812405
Nobody is opposed to ballista-type minigame pvp. It's open world pvp that would be a problem

>>55812405
>Roleplay faggots
>Implying PvP involves any sort of literal fighting

>>55812590
And who are you? King of the faggots?

>>55812405
Uh oh looks like we got us a HARD NIGGA WATCH DA FUK OUT

>>55812855
Thats right. Now go on and play with your catlady or smallmidget

>>55812971
Fuck yes, I'll do it with my bros, and enjoy every second of it.

>>55812971

>>55813054
implying u hav bros

>>55812971
But I enjoy killing the exact same monsters and bosses every day for years and years!

>>55813139
>implying your overly confrontational, insecure, woeful self does

>>55813156
>implying PvP doesn't eventually subside into tired mechanics which boil down to "doing things efficiently in order to win".

You PVP retards just need to accept that it isn't going to be in FFXIV and find a different game to play.

I have nothing against PVP, its great when it works, but thats not what this game is going for so move the fuck on.

>>55812405
I dont know about everyone else, but many Linkshells used Ballista as a way for Roleplaying incharacter fights and shit.

Is there any word on the number of characters per account? Hoping its not like XI where you pay extra for each.

>>55813714
Nothing yet. Still, if having to pay for extra characters means the base account fee will be less (same as in FFXI) it's fine by me. You don't really NEED more than one character hopefully.

>>55813714
They said they're gonna be more flexible with payment options. How are they gonna allow top up cards if characters cost extra?

I noticed this time around you can manually set stat points which will be interesting. Hopefully theres an easy way to reset them or you run the risk of screwing up your character before the cookie-cutter ones appear.

>>55814032
They've said there will be ways to redistribute stat points later closer to release. Currently there are none.

Euro alpha guy here, the test yesterday went pretty well. The client didn't crash anymore though there were a few server-side problems in exchange.

How did the US test go, was it stable?