FUCKING MINECRAFT

Autistic tiem?

account sharan

Hey everybody look at me I made a game in Java that runs like shit and can never have great graphics until we all have supercomputers!

BUY MY SHITTY GAME!

>>55500005
What game are you talking about?

>>55500005

We'd consider buying it if you actually posted what the damn game was.

>>55500000
get

>>55500000
cool get brah

>>55500000
getgetget

>>55500000
>fives

>>55500005

This is why I'll always hate /v/

>Good looking game, technical marvel? SHIT GAEMPLAY SHIT STORAY
>Fun, simple game? FUCKIN CASUELS GFX SUK DICKS

>>55500315
>>55500337
>>55500418

>They still care about gets!

>>55500210
Minecraft.
What, did he port it to a real compiled language or something?

Java is text, it's source code, it's like HTML, your computer has to read it like text, then convert it to code, then run it. ("Compiled" Java isn't really compiled.) Java on average is 15 times slower than compiled code like C or C++ or Fortran, etc.

The game would be running at hundreds of FPS on your computer if it wasn't written in fucking Java.

And Java isn't so much easier to program in than compiled languages.

>>55500000
That's a get. Somewhat wasted, but still a get.

He's already said multiple times that he's using Java because its what he's most familiar with.

>>55500644

>>55500644
>implying that a scripting language is harder to program than c

>>55500644

It's not like he even wrote the code himself. He just stole it from Infiniminer.

Sorry, can barely play minecraft anymore.
Dwarf Fortress is so complex and so awesome...

>>55500644

>fortran

why don't you just tell him to rewrite it in assembly if you're going to be a fag

DILDOS STOLEN SOURCE CODE POORLY WRITTEN INFIMINER RIP-OFF AUTISM

FUCKING GAMESTOP

>>55501057
One day they'll be the same, but you are the dwarf. :3c

>>55501109
/thread

I have a feeling this is nothing but a troll thread anyway.

>>55500772
Lol, and do you know why?
Because he learned it in School, and as a fucking lemming he uses it to make his game.

Look at the Wii, the graphics aren't great but they do the best with what they have.

However, if I see a Wii game which looks like it's from the N64 not because of the hardware, but because the developers are too fucking stupid to use the languages everybody else uses, then I will get upset, and I will say they're fucking retarded, not because the graphics are bad, the graphics could stay the same and I'd be fine, it'd run better, but that's not the case, the game runs like shit and looks like shit because he uses a programing language not meant for making games.

Oh hey, I'm need to minecraft. Played the alpha demo thing.

I actually liked it. I'm usually not a fan of First Person stuff, but this is kinda fun.

>Was playing my first game ever for the past 5 hours
>Everywhere I mined and went back and outlined with wood and had an awesome super massive neat looking wood basement all from my house
>Surrounded house with a moat
>Felt awesome to finally put all this work in
>See a deposit of an ore I needed
>Mining up to it
>Mine a block
>I was under the ocean or a huge lake at the time apparently
>Frame rate drops to .1 fps
>Massive water draining into my cave
>2 bubbles of oxygen left by the time the frame rate is stable
>Swimming around desperately trying to find air
>Wind up with 2 hearts of health left in a small pocket
>Start digging up
>End up hitting water AGAIN
>Drown
>ALL THAT HOURS OF WORK RUINED IN MICROSECONDS

That was a huge letdown, since if it was stable and the frame rate didn't take a plunge I could have plugged the hole instantly, all that work ruined :(

Oh well, time to start over later tonight when the rage is done

>>55499130

Threads will be back on /v/ when that lazy fuck makes multiplayer.

saw this on the /v/ server last night

what the fuck is wrong with you /v/

i don't even know you anymore

>>55501080
You don't write whole programs in Fortran, only the elements you would hand code in assembly, but you aren't an assembly god.

By the way I'm looking forward to MineCraft 2, it'll be coded totally in Javascript and XHTML, says it runs at nearly 15FPS on his new $5,000 gaming computer.

>>55501382

/v/ was, is and always will be furfags

>>55501382
>i don't even know you anymore

>>55501382
>7 fps
Jesus H. Fucking Christ, bro
What the hell are you playing on?

>>55501726
a 2004 compaq presario

lol

>>55500490
need to stop tihnking of /v/ as a collective mind and remember its a rainbow of opinions.

as long as there are 2 people in the world, there will be opposing views.

>it'll be coded totally in Javascript and XHTML
umm html? scuse me?'

He could at least have the common courtesy to use c#, it integrates well with web apps

>>55501791
But that's the problem, this game should be running at over 200 fps for you, but it isn't, because he's fucking retarded.

>>55501282

u mad

>>55502023
I know. Java is fucking terrible. Platform independence doesn't mean shit when the language itself has this many fucking shortcomings.

>>55501282
You do know there is a save function right?

>>55501985
C# is too fast for him, anything over 60fps in Minecraft could give people seizures, he needs to keep the FPS under 30.

FUCK YEAH NEW TREES!!

http://notch.tumblr.com/post/506311060/still-going-slow-but-heres-a-new-screenshot

So uhm, how do I go into 3rd person mode?

ITT: Everyone is a coding expert

>>55502186

The last save was several hours before.

I was actually having fun so saving wasn't even on my mind.

>>55502117

The only thing that made me mad was wasting hours building a moat. As satisfying as it was to have the path from my dug out moat to the ocean, and breaking that one block to having it pour in was, it was useless.

Monsters would just swim over it like nothing. I stupidly thought they would be afraid of water or something.

Won't do that again.

>>55502205
yeah, god forbid people can see things smoothly.

Or he learns how to actually program

>>55502400
That's why you only use water for plants
Lava is the best and only thing to be used for moats

>>55502023

>"I haven't read it, but I'm pretty sure it's terrible"

you're the worst kind of faggot. go back to doing worthless shit in prolog if you're gonna get all picky about what language it's written in.

ITT: Programming Experts who think game devs live their lives to serve them.

I get great framerates all the time, and I'm on a laptop, you dumb niggers. You never had legos as children, and you never will.

this is minecrap

>>55502657
he has a right to be, if you have coded in a language you know it's flaws

there is not a single reason minecraft was logically developed for java, bytecode is terrible....TERRIBLE

Sage for viral marketing

>>55501382

Oh my god, I love 9_6!

>>55502948
Same here. Only time I ever really lag is Day/Night transitions in Indev, and when I decide to flood huge ass areas.

Water's bugged as hell right now, so I assume the latter is lower in the to-do list.

>>55503132
GET OUT OF HERE FURFAG

the only reason he's using java is because it's baby's first programming language and he is babies

also so he could steal someone else's sound code

>>55502996
If your such an expert programmer, then YOU make a better game.

Oh wait, you don't even know how to program, like most people talking about this shit.
>>55503014
No one ever told you to buy the game, so it's not viral marketing. Even if ONE person told you to buy it, it's still not viral marketing.

>>55502986
That made me lol
>>55503270
He's using java because he's used to it. Didn't he work on Wurm or something?

>>55503300
OMG IF YOU KNOW BETTER WHY DON'T YOU DO SO

go back to deviantart, minecraftkiddie

>>55503523

lol u mad

>>55503344
He's worked on many projects using Java.The whole "Stolen Code" thing came from him using code from one of his old unpublished projects he was doing for fun.

>>55503575
no, just facepalming at your idiocy

This thread needs more comics.

>>55503300
I do know how to program, in C++, and I have a pretty good grasp on assembly. What, you want me to remake his game? No, he made it, I won't steal its idea, but my point still stands, it's worse off because it's in Java.

Look, there is no real reason for him to use Java, it's not so different from C++ or D or C#, or F#, Ocaml, but the speed, it's horrible, 10+ times slower.

You could say ohh, well, he wants it to work on all platforms. That's what OpenGL is for, and there are countless cross platform libraries out there for almost every language I listed.

The game shouldn't be done in Java.

>>55503940
Would this count?

>>55503898

yeeaa

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF9xMNuAfwE

every time

>>55503597
he said he used some work from wurm
>>55503300
I was a freelance programmer, I'm qualified to criticize him kid, if you can't give me a reason why java was a logical choice then shut the fuck up and don't make yourself look like an idiot

>>55503300
not the same guy, but i've been testing a better infiniminer clone written in scheme for a while now. it's pretty cool so far, you can define your own gametypes, blocks, etc.

>>55503990

it's not your problem, get over it

>>55504100
>I was a freelance programmer

>>55504100
He never said he used shit from Wurm. He said he used programming from a project of his, which was supposed to be a Chinatown Wars parody.

>>55504275
I quit because I'm interested in going to school for something different. I made pretty good money.
>>55504331
what ever then

>>55504190
It's my problem when I have to boot up and keep up to date a massive virtual machine to run it.

It's my problem when it runs like shit AND looks like shit, for no reason.

Just imagine all the awesome shaders it could be using, with the same textures. You could have real time shadowing, vertex shading, it could look great and still have that cube and low resolution texture look, like Dot 3D Game, it could look like that, but it can't, because it's not pretending to be an old and crappy looking game, it has to be, BECAUSE IT'S FUCKING CODED IN JAVA!

>>55504644

>I'm a graphics whoring fag.

Go back to Crysis.

>>55504805
>>55504662
>>55504470
Stop that or this thread is going to become 40k.

>>55504644

so talk to notch and convince him to rewrite it / rewrite it yourself. i'm sure he'd appreciate the help, especially from such a talented coder such as yourself.

>>55504805
Frames per second is not graphics whoring.
The power wasted trying to run that fucking crap is not graphics whoring.

>>55504644
3D Dot Game is way too bright, minecraft looks a lot better, has a lot more character.

>>55504879

That'd be a lot better than what it is now.

>>55504935
Imagine.
You dig down deep in Minecraft, it's dark because there's a real lighting system, you need to use a flashlight.

Lol will never happen because real time shadowing and volumetric lighting could never be done in Minecraft, because it's fucking Java, even though the game has so few textures and polygons that you could totally do that on a super old computer.

>>55504644
MAN. IT COULD ALSO HAVE A FUCKING KILLCAM WHEN YOU DIE. REPLACE THE MUSIC WITH, LIKE, HEAVY FUCKING METAL.

WHEN YOU DIE, HAVE IT PLAY, LIKE, YOU JUST GOT OWNED YOU BITCH ASS PUNK

BEST FUCKING GAME EVER!!!!!!!1

>>55505051
>Hey everybody look at me I'm a zoophile!
>LOL SEE I'M TROLLING! But no really, I'm a zoophile.

>>55505096
Minecraft does have a lighting system.

>>55505308
A shitty one.

>>55505165
yea, but the game relly needs guns n tanks n shit man. fcking best game EVER.

>>55505344
You dig deep down and it's dark, what more do you want? You need torches to light your way, whart more do you want? Night vision?

>>55505344
Not really, no.

ITT: Underage fanboys unable to admit that the game they like could be better.

>>55505461
what is with all the beastality today?

MINECRAFT THREAD TURNED INTO POKEMON PORN DUMP FUCK YEAH DERAILS

>>55505349
That pic made me lol.


OP, delete this thread. It's just becoming porn and in a couple seconds it'll become 40k.

>>55505564
>fanboys unable to admit that the game they like could be better
>alpha version

>>55505564
Not really, no. Also what is with anon and calling everyone underaged? Are you really that insecure about your age?

>>55505640
Ohh I see, so he'll remake every bit of code in the game in the full version, and through it not being made in Java he'll be able to add more features, I see.

>>55505461
So, you're fine with having a mental sickness?

>>55505640
>retards complaining about about a game not using its full potential
>alpha version

>>55505817

I wouldn't call it a "sickness". I'd call it a fun little quirk.

>>55505896
>Implying Java can somehow not be Java in the full version.

>1337 pr0gr@MmInG g3niu$s complaining about how bad the game is
>they want the game to be perfect
>one fucking dev
>alpha

>>55505817
I wouldn't really call bestiality a mental sickness. Furry is more of a mental sickness (at least the ones that think they are wolves and shit).

>>55505778
>game runs fine
>complain about code
>future dwarf fortress
>complain about not being able to add features

>>55505896
in alpha for a year

Another successful demolish dildos thread

HAHAHAHAHA

>>55499527
>>55499527
>>55499527
>>55499527
Holy fuckin shit. Some one saved it. I WANT MY HAM SANDWICH NOTCH

THIS PERSON AGREES WITH ME

>>55505915
In almost every countrys law, it's classified as a mental disease and is also illegal.

>>55506007
>one person coding the whole game

>>55505915
You think about fucking your pet(s).
It's a paraphilia, not a fun little quirk.
Paraphilia.

STOP THIS HERESY AT ONCE.

>>55506142

No they don't want their countries to be shitholes.

>>55506065

>countrys

>>55506142
The government wants people to be safe and humane. Without them, we would have no civilization, no culture, no way of life. Nothing but beasts and disgusting pigs. Opposing them is like wishing humanity never existed.

^_~

>>55506269
That doesn't make much sense. Since when did sex turn a place into a shithole?

>>55506075
dwarf fortress also in alpha, also coded by one person, but a much better and complete game

df

ITT: Proof furries like fucking animals, also a lot of underage B&s who don't know what Java is, and how it shouldn't be used for games.

>>55506376
Since diseases.
AIDS, you can thank furfags for that, fucking apes.

>>55506405
Furries are worse than Zoophiles. They have a mental illness. Zoophiles are just people who like living dildos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK6I8yBL5BY

>>55506472
You're an idiot.

>>55506472
>confusing furfags and zoophiles
>not knowing how AIDS started

>>55506455
You're disgusting. I'll have you know that if I ever come across anyone like you, I will kill you on the spot. You are all that there is disgusting and lawless in this world.

>>55506379
dwarf fortress has been in development longer than a year.

>>55501282

theres a save feature you know

>>55506675

I bet you will, hunk. ^_~

>>55506675

whoa, internet toughguy

>>55506633
Fact: Yiff is half beastiality, anthropomorphism means human shape, not animal shape, meaning it's taking animals and making them looks like humans, not the other way around, which would be Neko and the playboy bunny and such.

I like Minecraft.
I don't like Minecraft's fanbase.
Ignore the fucking trolls, your smarter than this /v/.

Anyways, I'm gonna go troll the forums some more, Dildos, Manly Tears, you should join me, it's really tons of fun, and the admin hates the fanbase too.
www.minecraftforums.net

I'm sorry everyone that wanted this thread to live. I'd recommend evacuation. I'm purging harder than I have ever purged before.

EXTERMINATUS

>>55506931
I think he's just being a Commissar.

>>55507037
>He still thinks purging does anything!

>>55507015

>I don't like Minecraft's fanbase.

Ugh, I hear you bro.

MY ARMOR IS CONTEMPT

MY SHIELD IS DISGUST

MY SWORD IS HATRED!

IN THE EMPERORS NAME, LET NONE SURVIVE!

CARRY WITH YOU THE EMPERORS WILL AS YOUR TORCH!

WITH IT, DESTROY AND BANISH THE SHADOWS!

>>55507140

its not working

I bet the Emperor is yiffing in hell.

ONLY IN WAR ARE WE TRULY FAITHFUL MY BROTHERS! RISE UP! RISE UP AND STRIKE THEM DOWN!

>>55507116
>laughingheretics.png

THE ENEMIES OF MAN CANNOT STAND BEFORE US!

LOL

Who's deleting images?

>>55507304
>>55507257
reported both people for thread shitting

PRAISE THE EMPEROR AND STRIKE DOWN HIS FOES!

>>55507307
>>55507228
>>55507157
>>55507105
>>55506898
>>55506827
>>55506651

YOU CANNOT STAND TO THE WRATH OF THE RIGHTEOUS! MY FURY KNOWS NO BOUNDS!

reportan both warhammer fag and furfag

fuck off, nerds

Okay, I am confused, some people are saying that the game would work better if not in Java. I don't know much about computers but if they are right I don't understand what is being argued. If it is true then they have a point, it would make more sense for Notch to program it differently, but since he is not for whatever reason it isn't really worth arguing on either side over. I think Minecraft is awesome but this guy >>55504644 is making perfectly logical points, it is nothing to get mad over. At the same time it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to say anything beyond the fact that he could have programmed it better. People are enjoying the game despite its flaws because even though it is 10+ times slower it isn't that noticeable expect to people who have had experience in programming. All I'm saying is that we should just stop this circular argument of "It could be coded better" and "I still have fun with it" with random butt hurts through insults every which way.

>>55507482

Good job. You are the chemo curing /v/.

>>55507472
>>55507472

THOU SHALL PAY FOR THY HERESY!

>This thread
brb immigrating to 7Chan

Why are you spamming warhammer shit in a minecraft thread? Get out you avatarfag.

THE EMPEROR GUIDES MY BLADE!

Oh hi.

All of you are now screwed.

>>55507624

You are also the chemo.

Keep up the good work.

>>55507750
>7Chan

>>55507785
New thread
>>55507912

WE CAME AS QUICK AS WE COULD!

WHATS GOING ON!

>>55507971
>new thread
WHAT? KEEP IT LOCALIZED.

I fucking love how this thread got it so roughly up the ass.

FOR THE EMPEROR

>>55507971

There's a new Minecraft thread? Well then, I believe my work is done.

It was good threadshitting with you, gentlemen.

>>55508185
What the hell is wrong with you?

>>55507641
Alright, let me put it this way.
Both Java and other programming languages are written in text, Half-Life 2 was written in text, well, the engine was, and then compiled by the computer into binary assembly.

Now, Java, which is just like C++ for the most part, doesn't compile down, every time your computer runs Java, it has to read the text, letter by letter, and then figure out what the fuck it means, then convert it into assembly to run. Java is about 10 times slower than compiled languages, and for no real reason.

The game is great, but that is a major flaw, it'll always run slower because it uses Java, it will always use up a lot more memory, and it will never look as good or anywhere near as good as it could if it didn't.

The blocks could be four times smaller, you could have the map be four times larger, you could have four times more people per map, etc etc, it will never be as good as it could have been if he didn't use a language nobody in their right mind uses.

THIS FUCKING THREAD

pirated this game last night, was meh. wouldn't play again.

>>55508632
New thread
>>55507912

>>55508692
>pirated

>>55508632
this,but
>The blocks could be four times smaller
He can change the blocks to be any size
>, you could have the map be four times larger,
He can do this as well, but he needs a efficient way to do it memory wise
>you could have four times more people per map, etc etc,
Networking issues depend mostly on server and how the client is coded
>it will never be as good as it could have been if he didn't use a language nobody in their right mind uses.
Only thing that would change is speed and memory efficiency, openGL (which is what he uses to render) doesn't change based on the language your using.

Since this seems to be an appropriate place to ask this - what API should I use game-wise for C/C++?

Just so you know where I'm coming from: I know HTML, plenty of shitastic Java, some Assembly and C/C++.

FUCK YES, I TURNED A MINECRAFT THREAD INTO A FURRY PORN DUMP THREAD

>>55509248
Just use openGL or directX and make your own game engine and game, or if you want a good already working game engine and you just want to add onto it then you'll have to look around for one.

Also html isn't going to do you any good here.

>>55508692
Good on you for giving it a shot anyway.

>>55508632
I'm sorry you don't understand how Java compilation works but that's no reason to spread your bullshit as though it were fact.

>>55499130

Can you /v/irgins stop posting on my /tg/?

We're not the ones spamming your board with warhammer shit.

>>55510027
You're on /v/ bro. I think you went to the wrong board.