Cops can punch you in your greasy brazilian face for pirating.

>>53904864
How can they even tell whose pirating ?

>>53904965
They don't have to. They can just assume you are, no matter who you actually are, and jail you indefinitely for no reason.

3000 seeds? Awesomes!

OP: Thanks. It looks like the real thing.

I feel bad for whoever leaked their copy. The US always makes slight differences in each copy distributed. They know by the text alone who leaked this one.

You might be pirating.

We are going to stamp all over your personal liberty by prosecuting you and forcing you to prove you are NOT guilty (which is a fallacy and nearly impossible).

If this goes through we're all screwed

>>53905041

⎝⏠⏝⏠⎠

It means absolutely nothing.

It's attempting to curb rampant piracy in the 3rd world and Asia, but piratefags with a puffed-up ego assume it's meant for THEM.

They don't give a shit about your white middle-class suburban ass.

>>53905248

no, americans are screwed.

I can pirate all I want in canada still..

Ya know. Even moot is affected by this, because /rs/ is enough to piss the government off.

What happens when you click on that K thing on the bottom of the page?
Shit has bothered me for so long now.

>>53905314
No, we are all screwed.
America, canada. Hell even here over at europe.

who does the ACTA apply to?

Can anybody pinpoint at what point the government started considering corporate rights to be more important than individual rights?

>>53905514
Almost all 1st world countries so about 70% of /v/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act

OH NO PIRACY IS DOOMED WE'RE ALL SCREWED

This was passed in 1996

>>53905514
you

>>53905514
Pretty much everyone

>>53905514
According to wikipedia:

Unclear, officially as of 6th Round of Negotiation: Australia, Canada, the European Union, Japan, South Korea, Mexico, Morocco, New Zealand, Singapore, Switzerland, and United States

So, can someone summarize this whole thing without getting TOO general?

>>53905356

Concerning legal shit, /rs/ is the least of 4chan's problems.

>>53905655
But its importance will rise once this fucker gets passed.

I'll be damned if I have to delete my entire music library

Would this also mean that all of those private severs for MMO's would be deemed illegal?

>>53905438


hmmm no. im not screwed by this :3c

>>53905828
Can't you just encrypt the whole thing using Truecrypt or something, then just hide it as some kind of big file somewhere in your system?

>>53905652
This allows them to charge you based on a suspicion of piracy. You are then legally a criminal, until you prove yourself not guilty.

This is basically the opposite of our current legal system.

>>53905828

don't delete

ENCRYPT FUCKING EVERYTHING

>>53905937
If they find an encrypted volume you have to provide a password or go to jail

>>53906015

Well if it's a hidden volume inside a legitimate looking volume, they have no way of proving that hidden files exist.

You know, I'd say that Americans would never allow this to pass because of CIVIL LIBERTIES, but then I realized Americans are spineless cowards.

Also, I don't know why anyone's worried about border searches; they already do that in America.

>>53905994

how can they even think of something like this? fuck
companies are fucking shit.

>>53906083
You aren't reading the thread, are you?

THEY don't need proof of your guilt, YOU need proof of your non-guilt.

That's why people are pissed.

>companies serving on the advisory committee to the delegation: RIAA

We're already screwed.

>>53905994
On SUSPISION OF PIRACY?
How do you even prove yourself NOT pirating?
Damn.

>Implying any of this shit is going to stop anyone from pirating

Good luck im behind 7 proxies

You know really whose fault is this?

Capitalism

Yeah, extreme punishments on piracy sure worked well the last time we tried them.

300 years ago.

I'm scared, hold me fellow my fellow Americans. :<

>>53906406
>You know who's fault it really is?
>America, for assuming the rest of the world should respect their copyrights when we don't respect theirs

Do you honestly think they're going to get anyone? Sure maybe a handful of unlucky, retarded people. But to the average internet user, this is a mere scare tactic. If this gets passed, they're going to go around arresting 75% of the USA. Land of the free, my ass.

>>53905994
I'm not a lawyer but i'm pretty sure you cannot do this in America. If you are accused of a CRIMINAL offense you are presumed innocent, in a CIVIL case you may have to prove you didn't do something but if it's a CRIMINAL charge you get the benefit of the doubt, and since the constitution trumps international treaties (Granted i have not read this thing, nor am i likely to understand it should i read it) my concern is minimal based on your description

>>53906484

Why the sage?

Did this guy wrote it?

>>53906281
THAT'S why people are pissed.

This doesn't just affect pirates. They can literally point to any random dude and say HE'S GOT DOWNLOADED SOFTWARE and that guy is totally fucked.

So it's a treaty that means to recreate the salem witch burnings. And they are passing it.

>>53906539

dont be such an idiot , is not like only UNITED STATES is involved in this shit.

>>53906448
>>53906566
YAR HAR PIRATESmind

so uh, what if you just had an open network+downloaded all the stuff onto an external hard drive?
theoretically, if the police did come busting down your door, you would just be able to hide the hard drive and then blame it on your neighbors.

>Implying I'm going to be caught

Fuck the mpaa/riaa

They've sued people that have no means of paying back what they sue for

in Minnesota, a single mother of 2 gets charged for downloading 20ish songs

she doesnt sign a deal out of court
jury finds her guilty she has to pay back like 3m in "damages"

what the fuck man...

>>53906662
They aren't, but you can be sure they're the ones pushing most of the negotiations, and they have the most companies serving as "advisors" (read: LOOK AT THE GAJILLIONS OF DOLLARS LOST DUE TO PIRACY)

>>53906684
Please see.
>>53906181

>>53906572
>So it's a treaty that means to recreate the salem witch burnings. And they are passing it.

God fucking dammit. Anti piracy laws just went full retard.

.>>53906755

Fuck Companies

>law gets passed
>most all young people in America are now pirates
>90% of black and Mexican populations fined
>more money for corporations
>America dies

>>53906684

>hide the hard drive

they'll find it man, they will find it

>Prove your innocence

>You can prove something existed, but you cannot prove it didn't

tl;dr wat does this secret pdf talk about

>>53906790
so it doesnt even matter if they find it?

how exactly does one prove they havent pirated anything?

>>53906941
Simple
You don't.
Like >>53906572 said: it's the salem witch burnings all over again.

I know cops who pirate shit

Honestly who is willing to enforce this shit if it goes through?

are they gonna make a new police agency and waste x amount of tax payers dollars?

I can just see it now, police in riot gear armed with nintendo light guns crashing down your door and taking your hard drives away for downloading NES roms and other pirated stuff

>>53907035
remind me again how this is getting passed?

>>53906876

people like you should be dragged to the streets and killed for being stupid.

One question
What if you are using a wireless internet connection (leeching from your neighbor, war driving, etc.), how the fuck would they trace it back to you???

brb downloading all the roms i could ever want onto a usb now

>>53907193
that sort of stuff is EASILY traceable, lrn2computers.

>>53907146
'MURICKA

.>>53907193

they dont need to trace you or anything. if you are on SUSPICIOUS you are already fucked.

Well, this sucks.

I seriously don't know a single person that doesn't have pirated material on their computer.

Whether it be music, movies, books, games, software, whatever.

Burned a CD? That's piracy.

I guess the government will be locking every single citizen up, because EVERYONE is guilty of piracy. Show me one person that has never copied a CD, or copied songs of off someones iPod.

Plus, this is totally not constitutional for America. It's supposed to be "Innocent until proven guilty" not "guilty until proven innocent". That's just fucked up.

Oh well. I stopped pirating some time ago, so I hope I don't get singled out.

>>53907256
what about public computers?

Russia here.
Wtf guys, seriously.

>>53907121
20$ says this happens
>Obama: So our new law for piracy has just went in effect
>After training an elite force of people to catch pirates (spending another 34765093475 million in the process) we will catch all those bad people who download songs and games off the internet because they are bad people and ruining the economy

and the result will be
>my face

>>53907256
derp. Everything you download comes back to an IP, not a computer. People use open connections for plausible deniability, which won't matter at all if this bill is passed. Because they're basically going to point, say "he downloaded something" and you can't do shit about it because it's impossible to prove that you didn't.

>>53907256
How then

>>53907354

CDs or DVDs are not only used for music, videos and games you know.

>how exactly does one prove they havent pirated anything?
The only way to prove you're a virgin is to spread your legs. And this is what they want it to feel like.

>>53907392
>34765093475 million
>million

HERPDERP.

>>53907451
other than, say, you not having it.

assuming someone used your open network to download something

And so when they find nothing on your hard drive, what then?

If you're still "guilty" to them, and you cannot prove your innocence, then they will fine you or something. But how will they know how much to fine you if they have no idea what you downloaded?

Its not the same law but

In Ontario street racing law, do 50km/h over the posted limit you lose your license, get car impounded for a week or two

you are GUILTY ON SIGHT CANNOT APPEAL IT IN COURT AT ALL

this is being overturned and the law is being fixed as you cannot even appeal it once you are charged with it

same thing will happen with this law

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>>53907598
Affects most 1st world countries.

so then
dont copy that floppy!

>go to /v/
>see his thread
>feels good not living in the us

>>53907483
>implying im going to explain computers for you
cba to type in 200 pages on 4chan

>>53907535

>intentionally absurd exaggeration to make a point

HERPDERP

>>53907733
>realize that piratebay is european

lol @ people going batshit over a single paragraph which isn't universally supported

Then again, I'm no lawyer. Might have misread shit.

>>53907598
>Doesn't realize this affects countries that don't have that slogan.

You have a half-point. This law violates basic freedoms as defined in the Constitution of the US, but then again, Pirating, which is essentially avoidance of laws initially designed to protect developers and artists, is not defended by the Constitution.

>>53907733
>Realize you live in the EU, UK, Australia, Japan, Mexico, Brazil, China, Russia, etc. and are going to have to deal with this

I use an old laptop that someone threw out. Reformatted, no personal info on it. I connect and download shit on it through a wireless connection to some idiot's router (WEP protected, btw, cracked in 5 min with Backtrack).

More useless laws please
Before I start giving a shit

>>53907795
>>53907795
>realize that i dont give a shit and will be still downloading from TPB

>>53907850
yeah i see this getting lawsuits due to the MASSIVE LACK OF DUE PROCESS issue

>>53907974
Enjoy guantanamo will you?

what makes this ironic is that since this mainly affects pirates, then only pirates would protest this.

that makes everyone who protests it suspicious, and therefore can be charged.

>>53907734
You said it can be "EASILY" done then please enlighten me, fellow 10 year old virgin

>>53907794
>Still doesn't realize that 34765093475 is in the BILLIONS.
>Assumes I didn't get the point of his post just because I point out a mathematical flaw.

Good one, bro.

>>53908043
0/10
No one can be THAT stupid.

>>53907905
But remember, all they need is a suspicion.
And when they point your finger at you, it's you who has to prove your innocence.

>Buy a used Laptop
>Get arrested because previous owner was a bro and left me free porn on the harddrive he erased and didn't encrypt.
>Fuck year going to jail for someone else.

Truth be told I pirate and I don't give a shit

It's very simple, we will storm the Bastille and free our pirate comrades.

>>53908043
Actualy it would affect...well everyone who could be affected by this.

The US congress won't ratify this, it's a violation of the constitution (unreasonable search & seizure). The EU might, but I doubt it.

>>53907850

Which leads us into copyright laws, which are complete and utter bullshit

>>53908143
I'll alarm the townsfolk.

So sticky this, spread the word and shit

>>53908043
>implying this law doesn't also affect anyone who rips their physical media into an MP3 player of sorts, or even to a computer for that matter.

Enjoy carrying around every CD and DVD you have ripped to your iPods and PCs, guys.

Instead of putting more cops on the street to deal with real crimes and drug running, the money goes to chase some 13 year old interweb virgins who pirate shit

Logical

>>53904846

Now I'm generally a pretty gullible person, and I download tons of pirated games and stuff, but I'm honestly not worried about this one bit. It's just far too impractical to literally sue just roughly 100 million people in the united states alone.