inb4 people are ignorant about weapons stats

I agree with everything except Assault.

Assault sucks.

I for one found these descriptions rather motivating.

Too bad I'm still going play Recon and camp on sniper hill.

>Playing squad deathmatch
>Heading into a house to search it
>Don't find anyone
>Wait, does anyone else hear that beeping?
>Suddenly C4
>Faggot<Destruction 2.0>Anon

>>52150690

Assault sucks? Fuck no it doesn't. Grenading people in the face is oh so satisfying.

>>52150814

You are the worst kind of person

>>52150645
They are a useful class but nigh noone plays them like they should.

>>52150690

sounds like you arent using 40mmgl as the main weapon, the rifle attachment is just a bonus

>>52151017
>My face reading this, realising most assaultfags think like this

I feel like I'm contributing nothing to my team when I play as Recon or Assault.

Sometimes in squad deathmatch if we are all sticking together extra ammo and grenades is extremely helpful, but in general play most people don't last long enough for it to matter.

Also, the only way to play Recon is with the Thompson and C4. Sniper rifles are fine in deathmatch but if I see another group of 4 fuckers camped around the same goddamn rock a mile from the battlefield I will start griefing them.

Also, hardcore deathmatch snipers can suck my goddamn dick. Woo, you can kill me in one shot, congrats but I'm going to camp the shit out of your stupid hiding places because you all always go to the same places over and over again.

I'man Engin'yar ,all is well.

>>52150690

Assault has always sucked in battlefield.

Smoke grenades > all. If you're assault and you don't have smoke you are a waste of life. Less of a waste in hardcore but still pretty much a waste. Assault has two things to contribute to a team: Ammo and smoke, everything else is score faggotry.

>>52150690
For some reason I never ever touched assault in BC1 or the BC2 demo, but now its easily my most used class. Do not understand. Probably cause other people rarely drop ammo.

Engineer here. I never go into vehicles except tanks. And even then, I'm a passeneger that gets out and repairs.

I enjoy my silenced gun and TAPPING the trigger, getting long ranged kills with a gun thats meant for close ranged. I'm more of an ANTI vehicle man myself.

Medicbro here,
When I revive someone in squad deathmatch does the team who got the kill lose the point?

Or are medics useless in squad deathmatch?

>>52151377

>Doesn't play shotgun recon

A problem amongst others is that the Recon really has nothing to contribute to the team. Everyone can spot, Assault can supply ammo, engineers can repair yet recon can just throw little balls that detect motion. Maybe spotting should be restricted to recon above a certain distance, so that anything that isn't in very close proximity requires snipers to spot and mark them.

And in that spirit even assault feels second fiddle to engineers and medics, since right now someone with an m60 can perform on the battlefield almost as well or better than an assault (and I'm speaking as a primarily medic player).

I think we will see a downturn in the amount of shit recon players in the coming month. Just like most new FPS bad players camp until they know the maps and feel they can handle actually having to work for kills. Once the bads learn the game they will probably be running around alot more.

Dont fear soon the bad recon players will be bad Assault players, and hence good canon fodder.

>>52151482

what the blazing ass fudge is going on in that picture

>Use 40mm for a while
>unlock good gun
>quit using 40mm, use good gun

just let us assault guys evolve. we stop eventually.

>>52151482

Or we'll see the same amount or even more as they begin to unlock the .50 cal sniper rifle'

>>52151468
>m60
They will fix it eventually, just like PKM was fixed in BF2

>>52151468
Motions sensors, C4, mortar fire, ability to hide really well in foliage. The ability to eliminate key enemies at range while concealed is also a boon.

Recons can only be effective if they know how to counter snipe/spot/mortar spam and freaking relocate.

I play as recon and I spot targets more than I kill. I end up playing with kill score of under 20 and I rack my points up with spot assists, mortars or occasional vehicle destruction via c4. PATIENCE is a key on taking tanks out. The player you see that chases the tank in the open and ends up being blown to the pearly gates are retards. I only do give chase if it is possible to catch and plant in under 4 seconds, other than that, I wouldn't bother and just spot it for engies or tag it with tracers.

If you can't hit the target with 1 or at least 2 shots, don't bother because your wasting ammo or giving your position away.

I love being a faggot using the m95 with magnum ammo and the red dot.
No snoiping, only close range combat.

>>52151468
Anti-sniper scope makes recon so much better at spotting than anyone else. Spot everything in your scope without pushing a button? Fuck yea

I play every single class, regularly and have all but 3 with full unlocks, the last one being Recon.

4000+ combat scores regularly, with 10000~ being the norm without gold stars etc.

This game is fucking awesome.

>>52151629
If you cant get purely headshots as a recon then you are waste of space. Damaging people is best left to choppers that can get people halfway down and they can do it to alot more people alot faster

Most assault players seem to confuse being assault with HURR RIGHT UP IN THE ENEMY FACE YO

I sit back with the squads medic, tappan away at enemies at medium range, whilst attempting to give ammo out to squad members too..
Shits cash. Though lmg's are stupidly good in this game.

>>52151377
>>52151377
>>52151377
someone answer please i feel so useless in squad deathmatch

Get that 2000 shotgun with slugs. Get body armor. Play Left4Recon HD.

>>52151735
yea this game really is every map is fucking awesome Rush is the best gametype since... well conquest. Every class is fucking fun as shit, game is always what I thought games would be like when I was a kid looking at the future.

>>52151727
I've tried the spotter scope but It just doesn't work. I'm better at spotting targets than that useless scope.
Scope in on them? Nothing.
Press Q. Spotted.

>>52151766
I have no idea. Wouldn't mind an answer myself.

>>52151834
Works fine for me. Your game's broke.

>>52151745
Only the M60.
I hit upwards of 8 times before someone dies.

>>52151537
That's only you. You see mother fuckers with 10 gold stars on that 40mm.

>>52151727

I've seen a guy light up a whole team with that thing, instant disadvantage for the enemy.

>>52151599
>"Fixing" M60
Fuck no I love da rambo
It would be stupid as shit to nerf it seeing as that wouldn't vide with the "mild reality" shit they have going on with the stats
everything's consistent more or less with the calibers and ammo counts and there's no way they could "fix" the M-60 without totally spiking that

>>52151927
Boo hoo no one asked a tripfag

>fuck you in the eye
lol saving private ryan style

Why the hell dont they have a health indicator in this game?

>>52151864
Damn, shitsux. I really wish it worked.
Also using dx9 so the shielded machine gun window isn't transparent. Might be related?

Windows 7 here I come.

>>52151925
Exactly. I got 25 spot assists last game I used it.

>>52151927

Reality doesn't make good balance for vidya gaems

Gustav is fucking delicious.

>You are Captain Cuntface, saviour of the seven semen seas.

THIS is why I love anon

>>52152004
Suck it the fuck up, medics are fine, there's no reason for them to NOT perform as well as assaults in combat seeing as assaults have the 40mm, smoke, underslung shotgun, AND ammo.

>>52152079
I meant more consistency than reality, whatever, I'm a dumbass, either way, the guns are all consistent and they can't fix the M-60 without spiking it, not that it needs "fixing"

>>52152117
Pick 1/3 of those grenade options. Also, the ability to revive people is pretty much the most potent thing in the game.

>>52152117
Speaking of medics: I always use the Thompson when I'm THA HEALOR, and yet the damn game hasn't recorded any of my kills with it. Seems to think I've never held it, fired it, anything. Anyone else get this?

HEY GUYS

WANT SOME PINS?

Don't know what people are talking about when they say the LMGs are overpowered. All the other classes guns seem to kill better. I've had to hit dudes with 30 M60 shots point blank for them to die (and they did hit, the x popped up and everything), but using the XM8 rifle kills twice as fast.

Why is it every time I join a game it's on with a team full of recons with about 10 tickets left?

Anyone have any suggestion on how to use the gustav better? The Tracer dart is fucking hard to get in place

>>52152193
And the 40mm is arguably the most potent and fairly easy to use weapon, PLUS, the assault's ARs are JUST as good if not better than the LMGs except for capacity and MAYBE ROF and damage with the MG3 and M60.
Seriously assault can usually do better than medic in terms of KILLS, just not POINTS.

Recon is my least played class, but when i play it at least i do it properly, Spotting everything i see and always spot before i shoot, always make sure Ive got a motion sensor up by staying near ammo supply. Always making sure that a rush target (offense) is being nailed by mortars. And when i fucking shoot someone, its in the fucking head.

Every class is useful, you just need to make your self useful.

You can hate recon as much as you want but you know theres medics who just heal them selfs and play the class for the gun. Basically if your good your good and if your shit your shit. Every class is good as long as you can fucking play them.

>>52152362
Seriously, an assault with 4 grenades and the ability to resupply himself can kill pretty much 4 people with no way for those fucks to save themselves, myself, I use the M60 and marksman training while trying to heal as many people as I can, plus, I'm practically able to pick people off like a sniper, I prefer it a lot to the assault.

>>52152259
At point blank the M60 has the capability of killing 2 people per second, even without magnum ammo, you might want to try actually hitting them.

ASSAULT here, making the Recon class obsolete with 300+ meter shotgun slug sniping and infinite C4 explosions.

>>52152022
because they can provide with hud and effects

At least a medic or engineer who wants to whore points is contributing to the team...especially a medic.

Also, AT4 in hardcore = sniper rifle with movable bullet.

I loved medic in BF2, but it seriously has no appeal for me in this game. I don't camp with recon either, I play conquest and I'm usually moving to each flag to get quick scopes on people with a red dot or I'll use the Thompson.

>>52152524

>>52152524
Play as slugmedic
revive people while sniping
cum bullets

>>52152362
So they arnt as good? Cool story bro. Should probably try reading what you type once in a while.

LMG's that get more accurate the more you fire? Sure as fuck wasn't my experiance in the army. Ranging will improve when firing as you compensate, but the fucking spread doesnt get reduced.

LMG is easiest automatic weapon in the game to get kills with, both short and long range.

>>52152524
Second that. Do it with every class except recon.

And when I do play recon it's never as a sniper. Too fucking boring, I don't know how people can camp on the same rock near the spawn and snipe for an entire game without killing themselves out of boredom and SHAME.

Luckily I'm in the game, and part of my duty as a player of any class (especially as a recon) is to go up there and stab them in the back and steal that tank that the idiot recons aren't using. Then when the recons spawn I kill them again to get the point across.

So at what class do I unlock slugs?

>>52152679
That's right. I am sniping you with a goddamn shotgun. One slug, one kill.

The pump action shotguns are statistically identical to the bolt action rifles like the M24 while the automatic shotguns are identical to the semi-autos like the T88.

>>52152727
The LMGs don't get more accurate as you fire them, they get worse, who the fuck told you that
find them and box their fucking head in for me

Also SOME of the LMGs MIGHT just BARELY beat out the top-tier ARs in accuracy, but the ARs beat them out for the most part in ROF, damage, and accuracy, plus they get that FUCKING launcher.

>>52152794
*rank

>Play assualt
>leave ammo packs at well traveled areas
>watch shot gun recons and medics take mcomm. run in, drop ammo pack
> post up near mcomm
> pick off enemies rushing to disarm
> 40 mm for groups of 2- 3
>win game
> 53 kills - 12 deaths

When im Assault im using
>M16A2. currently 5x gold stars
>Dart pistol
>4x Scope
>Magnum ammo
>Vehicle Armor

Medic assault
>M60
>Dart pistol
>4x Scope
>Magnum ammo
>Vehicle Armor

And Healing medic
>XM8 LMG (better sight)
>Dart pistol
>Hi-medkit
>medkit+range
>Vehicle Armor

>>52152842
I think it's either 14 or 15

>>52151833
Stop viraling jesus christ.
1-It's embarassing and very easy to spot
2-The discussion is doing good and promoting the game already, you're doing nothing but pissing off the customers spotting it
Fucking dumbass.

Anyone with tips on how to use the Gustav better?

>>52152832
He heard it from that douchebag video ironically named "how not to be a noob at BC2".

>>52152886
and smoke granades with assault*

>>52152901
>viraling a game by saying it's good

herf derf i'm a purf

>>52152927
Then let's go box his fucking head in goddamn start the car fuck

derp

Assault: You carry 2 one hit kill buttons. One takes skill to aim while the other does not. No Ammo issues due to your box, same with nades. SHARE YOUR AMMO

Engineer: You chase moving tanks while desperately trying to repair them. Your weapons suck, and if you take down one big vehicle, the enemy team will go after YOU ONLY. Play cautiously.

Medic: You unlock an invincible gun very easily due to the nature of revives and heals. You outclass even some assaults, and have 2 instant kill buttons just like one. You can also heal, and would gladly advise you do so. Revive, revive, revive.

Recon: Camperfag. Back to Modern Warfare with you. Out, out!

>>52152901
how about you take you shit elsewhere, I was merely agreeing with the other guy not trying to promote shit, but my honest feelings on the game.

Take your cynical ass elsewhere ronery faggot

>>52152832

I'm pretty sure one of the in-game loading screens tells you that.

I don't understand how you other medics go 40+ kills, getting 30k points and a million medals. Games usually end before I get to 20 kills.

>>52152910

>>52153111
None of them do, and none of the LMGs I've used have ever done it.

Carl Motherfucking Gustav

>>52152910
The Carl Gustav rocket moves at 75 feet per second.
The RPG-7 moves at 40 feet per second. (or at least some arbitrary speed that reads "75" and "40")

Since the Gustav travels almost twice as fast (1.875x to be exact), you only need compensate for gravity half as much over a distance.

When going for choppers, though, you're better off finding a mounted heavy machinegun (the MGs on humvees and vodniks are best) and chewing it up quickly instead of burning through all of your darts and rockets just to hit it once.

PS3 fag here,
I normally get about 5000 total points in Conquest mode and I'm usually the top player.
I'm assuming you guys with 100,000+ points are playing PC?

>>52153036
Hey pal, that thing's old. Get the new version.

>medic on Conquest
>both teams on the ropes, down to 1 ticket for them and 2 for us
>going around healing and reviving people "don't die don't die oh god don't die"
>get killed from behind by some assault guy that runs out in the open
>"shit 1 ticket left. Surely someone will get this guy"
>see on killcam one of our recons take a shot at him and misses, assault guy turns around and shoots him
>FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

I play almost primarily as recon, but I mainly do my job (spotting enemies so the assaulters can mow them down) since I'm mediocre at sniping unless they are standing still or I get a lucky shot off.

>>52153274
thanks bro
wallpaper for you

>>52153036
That's out of date - F2000 doesn't stay the same over range anymore. Guy put up a new table after the beta.

>>52153111
>>52153226
The only tip close to that is "LMGs are the best at sustaining long bursts of fire while the weapon is sighted".

They still lose accuracy the longer you hold the trigger.

>>52153337
derp?

>>52153484
No, those are still using old numbers.

>>52153651
Yeah. Nice table though.

>play the faggot recon class
>run towards tank
>get blown to pieces

just bought this on steam.

last battlefield game i played was 2142.

looks like a laugh.

see you there.

>>52153819
good faggot
you niggers look ridiculous running up to it trying to plant fucking C4 on it
fucking love being support for the tank and lighting all you faggots up

i mad

>implying I am a useless recon
lol bitches don't know 'bout my over watch

>>52153819

>play the recon class

>>52153463
I'm pretty sure there's a tooltip that says they remain accurate at full-auto.

/bro/ forums -> http://www.fightsforfriends.com/forums/index.php

Does anyone else agree that the winning team should get like 1.5 multiplyer to their score to encourage focusing on the objective. There have been countless times that i've seen teamates completely ignore the mcom stations just to save their K/D ratio.

>>52150645
sounds about 100% correct, all you niggers complaining or not agreeing with him can eat a pile of shit

>>52153967
'Accurate' may refer to bullet spread rather than kick, i.e. the bullets are going where you point your gun, but the gun still recoils like hell.

>>52151671
Brofist.

>>52153997

Yes. Yes they should.

I'm playing Recon right now for the trophy. I hate it. I feel like a coward.

>>52152259
30 shots?
Point blank?
With a M60?

You fucking arent doing something right.

>>52154161

Use a shotgun, feel better. Hell, even a sniper rifle works at short-med ranges. Close support recon is often better than fuckoff-miles-away-on-a-hill recon.

>>52153997
Fucking this.

>>52153997

Just like what happens in Killzone 2. I agree.

>>52153274

As Engie I use little PANCAKES OF CHAOS.
In chokepoints, in crossroads, in briges, watch my seeds of destruction tearing your armor.

I used to hate all recon. Then in the middle of a Rush game I was defending a site, and I turn around to see a fucked about to knife me. In that instant, he fucking drops. That guy is okay in my book. Everyone else, fuck you.

Except for the ones who spot. I know some guys will tag targets, and let me get the drop on them so they don't have to give away their position. They're cool.

I'll admit to being a useless faggot when I play recon and could be much more useful to the team if I played any other class, but it's so damn fun.

HIDAN from incoming tanks and enemies ready to ambush.
PLANTAN c4 on tanks and survive it 95% of the time.
SHOOTAN choppers.
STEALAN enemy tanks.
SPOTTAN everything (but do this with any class anyway).

Also traveling to other side of the map and shooting camper recons point blank in the back of the head with my m95 dot sight magnum ammo'd cannon.

i maxed out the recon because i play a lot with the silenced sniper and x4 sight, i only snipe to take down chopper pilots or campers the rest i play as an engineer or medic, i hate assault, it sucks

>>52154207
I swear to fucking god, they just don't register the hits for me like other guns do.

>Play Rush, Sniper Hill X-treme map
>Try looking for a squad which consist of anything else then recon
>Not avaible
>Suddenly realise that FF is on
>Camp sniper hill with assault and ammobox
>Medic is reviving everything i kill
>We lose, medic says "thanks :D", i get kicked

anyone play for the Ps3? I would appreciate if we could exchange Psn's
inb4 hurp derp no geams

>playing engineer
>come up to another engineer hiding behind a rock
>confused
>notice a spotted tank coming down the road on my radar
>hide behind rock
>wait for tank to pass
>completely rape it with an ambush even I didn't see coming
>implied brofist

>play medic
>take tracer dart gun
>become the single most hated target of the enemy team

The gustav is so good it shld be banned. Like in port valdez in conquest at the B location simply camp in one of the houses and no one is gonna take B

>Play medic
>PIG DISGUSTING AMERICAN sniper picking off my team mates on the other side of the map in the bushes
>Reviving everyone
>Spotting the sniper
>No one kills him
>Go over to him and stab him in the back of the head
>Steal his sniper rifle
>See 2 targets spotted through a smoke cloud from where I came from
>Take a shot
>Bullet goes through the first guy's head and through the second guy's body
>2 kills one bullet

Medic is a better sniper than Recon will ever be.

>>52154757

>Ps3

>play

Don't you have some wagglan up your ass to do, kid?

>>52155154

At least the 40mm has an arc, the gustav is like a motherfucking sniper rifle with splash damage

>Recon: You are Captain Cuntface, saviour of the seven semen seas. You are a complete and utter faggot who thinks working as a lone wolf makes you awesome instead of just an anti-social faggot. Whats that? You can destroy tanks with C4? Wel thats impressive, too bad you suck so much dick you can't get close enough before it blows your fucking face off.
Wait, you say you can shoot niggers from afar? Well thats not bad, just kinda shitty that some other recon motherfucker who actually knows his shit will fuck you in the eye before you can pull the trigger.

Have fun defending/taking a com station without a motion sensor mine from a friendly recon who flanks the enemy taking out most of what would inevitably rape you and others on the cap.
Also, mortar > c4.

>>52155218

The M60 can outsnipe most snipers. Holyshit that LMG is bullshit

>Arica Harbour, attackers, very start of the match
>try out 870 with slugs, to see how it is on bigger maps
>running along the road to the mcoms
>someone spots some reconfags way on the ridge at the back
>i cant actually see anything but the orange spot icon
>aim shotgun, fire
>+10 headshot +50 enemy killed +10 headshot +50 enemy killed +30 double kill

>never use rifles on recon again

So the improved RANGE of the medikits addon is useful.
But the improved HEALING of the medikits is not since it only saves 1 second or something, right?

>>52155238
you have a Ps3?

>>52155285

2 recons is ok. But when your team consist of 14 recons shit is going down

Try this kit out:

Engineer
USAS-12 w/ Slugs & Magnum Ammo
Tracer Pistol
Pancakes of Doom

It's like having a Warhammer 40k bolter!

>On the assault team
>Out of shotgun ammo
>Hiding in attic of MCOM house
>Hear guys disarming it
>Toss a grenade down the stairs
>+50
>Drop down into smoke filled MCOM room with the revolver
>John Woo's doves
>Headshot
>Headshot
>Headshot
>Walk out the front door and reload in slow-mo while the MCOM explodes

>>52155327

You do know what is the job scope of a recon right? If you wanna play run and gun why not pick mr. unlimited ammo + c4

>>52155348

I'm more worried when shit is down to the wire and suddenly the bush erupts with medics. Two can play at that game though and by play at that game, kill one medic take his kit and cut down the rest like chaff before the wheat.

>get raped by m60 all match long
>decide to go medic to try it out
>see a bro 100+ yards out
>start spraying without using the sights
>bro dies around the third shot
>lololol

>Join any game
>Team I'm on will lose.
>Abuse this ability by joining the stacked clanner team, and magically watching their IQ's and k/d's drop.
>Backside: If I play, enemies will divert resources and specific time to make anyone go after me.
>Wish there was a medal for being killed by every weapon in the game, since I'd have it.

Hate this game.

>>52155390

>>52155430

because what other recon is going to be on the front line throwing motion mines?

>>52155337
Answer this one please.
Best BALANCED loadout for a medic?

This elitist piece of shit bullshit is why I don't play mp games. Among other reasons.

>>52155522
USAS-12, Slugs, Magnum ammo. It's the asnwer to everything.

>>52155522

M60 just use the fucking M60
If the assault are gonna use the 40mm, the engineers with their gustav and recons with their mortar spam, i gonna be tapping the trigger with my M60 across the map.

>>52155550

>I have no skills whatsoever so I never play multiplayer games because it hurts my feelings getting raped by everyone else.

>>52155561
How do you unlock the slugs?

>>52155638

rank 14 or something

not whatever the game actually says

>>52155504

Then you are credit to the team, given how most recon care more about their k/d ratio then winning the game

>>52155631
You're missing the point of my question.
RED DOT SIGHT, MAGNUM AMMO, IMPROVED ACCURACY, IMPROVED MEDIKIT RANGE, IMPROVED MEDIKIT HEALING.
WHAT'S THE FUCKING BEST LOADOUT?

>>52155736

Use your brain dumbass, if you can't figure it out you obviously have bigger problems.

noob tubed every 10 seconds
lone-wolf sniperz

it's like i'm really playing mw2

>>52155430
Infiltrator recon is the best recon, get into the enemy base and act as a remote spawn point for your squad, snipe defending medics so the rest of the team can move in, whip out your colt and join your squad in the fight, taking down that last MCOM.

>>52155635
lol

>>52155285
>Also, mortar > c4.

Mortar has a huge recharge time though. You can get several vehicle kills with C4 in that amount of time and it's far more flexible. Mortars reign supreme when attacking on Rush maps, though.

>>52155736
Improved healing, Marksman training.
Marksman training always beats magnum

>>52155736
WHAT PART OF BOLTER DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND!!

Purge this heretic, for he doubts in the emporers holy tools!

>>52155736

Depends on what type of medic you are playing.

For rambo medic (eg medics with M60) get the light weight + increase accuracy / magnum

If you are the type that sits back and act as a spawning point for ur squad perhaps the medkits perks would be better.

Depends on your playing style bro

>>52151468
Rocon has spotternades, those things are pure awesome.
>Recon with Tommygun
>throw spotternade at objective
>see everyone camping it
>FLANKAN
>SPOTTEN BONUSEN
>PWNEN

SOLDIER!

>SIR!

CHOOSE YOUR WEAPON

>SIR! CANT YOU CHOOSE FOR ME! SIR!

NO YOU LIMP DICKED ASSHOLE CHOOSE. SMOKE GRENADE LAUNCHER OR GRENADE LAUNCHER

>SIR! WOULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE TO ME. SIR!

SURE THING PRIVATE. ONE SHOOTS OUT LITTLE PUFFS OF SMOKE SO YOU CAN COUGH YOUR HIPPY ASS INTO LUNG CANCER SO BAD DR HOUSE ISN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAVE YOUR SCRAWNY ASS.

OR! YOU CAN AN ACTUAL GRENADE AND BLOW UP BUILDINGS AND SHIT

>SIR I'LL TAKE THE ACTUAL GRENADES BECAUSE I'M NOT A PUSSY

PRIVATE I AM PROUD

>two triple kills at alpha with the gustav
>feels good man

I don't get the hate for recon.

When you're inside a building, and you notice that someone has spotted the couple of enemies outside, letting you hide safely or get out. That's a recon player.
When that tank is camping on top of a hill killing your ass, then gets blown up by mortars. That's a recon.
When the enemy guys sneaking up to flank you get spotted, letting you kill them, that's Recon too.

I could go on. The only difference between Recon and Medic/Engi is the fact that shitty Recon is more noticeable, and Recon gets a lot less points for their credit to team shit. The spotting bonus barely ever works, Motion Sensors always seem to run out or not register kills properly, and half the time spotting enemies doesn't function even when your scope is right on their ass and you're smashing q.

Though shitty Recon is far more noticeable than shitty Medic though, as a shitty Medic can still be credit to team by just dropping medkits.

>>52155781
>>52155781
>>52155781

>>52155868

>Rush
>Team pinned down by chopper + tank combo
>Opposing Recons spam mortar at MCOM stations

Shit is so cash

>>52155723

i end up with most of my points from motion mine assists, and have more kills with my shotgun and pistol than sniper rifle.

i play fucking recon, not poopsocking sniper

>>52156019
The hate is that the majority of recon players are completely useless, they do not spot, they do not engage vehicles, they do not go for objectives, they just clump together on their little wookie hills and take pot shots at people from long range, missing most of the time.

>>52155522
Balanced? BALANCED? Fuck that shit.
You need a kit that helps you win your fights, because god knows no one else is going to on your fucking awful team.
M60, tracer dart (because you don't need anything other than your m60), red dot sight, armor.
After you're done killing, revive the idiots on your team to save some tickets.

You don't need med pack upgrades because your team is shit and they don't sit around for med kits. They run out with no health and die. The regular med kit is good enough for anyone willing to wait near your box anyway. You are more important as you're saving tickets so use things that will help you kill/survive better.

Recon here. Shooting you with my Vintorez

U mad?

>Playing recon
>Find myself near the M-COM
>Place motion sensor
>Place C4 next to M-COM
>set charges and begin moving back.
>enemy engineer sees me and starts trying to wreck my shit.
>shoot (and miss) falling back
>Motion Sensor indicates he is breaking off his attack and going after the M-COM
>C4 activated
>Double Kill
>M-COM destroyed
>my face

>>52156019

Good recons and like good scouts in TF2
Hardly any exist and if they do, when they are credit to team people hardly notice it

Credit to team recon here.

Whats that? you want to fly the helicopter around? Sorry, my M95 takes it down in just about 5 hits, fucking useless engineers ill do your job too.

Tank rolling in? hah, ill drop a mortar strike on it and kill everyone in the area.

>>52156019
The hate is because that ain't recons. That's me, the guy on the front lines.
I'd say 99 out of 100 recons don't spot shit, they do fuck all.

>>52156167

Engineer here, I outsniped you with my Gustav.
U mad?

>>52154757
Sure, PSN is Takedown102.

Picked the game up yesterday, only 400-500 points from a Red dot scope with Assault.

>>52156281

>Recon
>Call engineer useless

WTFIMREADING

>>52156297
Been killed by the gustav only once. I'm usually getting blown up by nade launchers. Snipan? I use the red dot sight. This is like a SMG with sniper powers tacked on.

Whoever thought that giving the class with infinite ammo any kind of explosive was a smart fucking idea....

Engineer should get the 40mm attachments for his fucking submachine guns, that way he can deal with pesky fuckers, without wasting an RPG

>>52156281
Tank driver and everyone else in the area here.

We heard your mortar strike and moved 2 meters out of the mortar strike's kill zone. You killed no one.

So apparently slugs are veterans only items?

fucking bullshit

>>52156153
Well.
Considering i already maxed out my medic and don't really need the extra points from the upgraded medikit range and most of my team almost always IS shit and 90% of the time they don't even stick around the kits and i have to run between bullets and fucking granades to revive their sorry asses all the time...you do have a point.
Red dot it is then, thanks.

You know what I miss from BF2 that this game really needs? The commander role, minus the old powers he had. Maybe do a couple new ones, but at least give one dude a push-to-talk button that lets him broadcast his VOIP to everybody.

>>52156506

This is truth.

They just made one class the call of duty class to catch all the assholes. There are many, many assholes.

Admin Setting: Disable tube attachments/Disable Recon, please.

>>52156588

skills for kills agent. SKILLS FOR KILLS.

>>52156588
No, they just unlock a couple ranks after when it says they do.

>>52156588
I'm not veteran and I have slugs
you eventually unlock them

>>52156506
>grenade launcher

>on an SMG

>>52156414

my loadout
>AK47U
>Gustav
>Ability to carry more explosive rounds
>BC2 version of danger close

Shit is so cash, especially when shooting from a higher ground. Just lead the target abit and aim for their legs you dun even had to hit remotely close to them. And since most shitty recons snipe with their backs aside a wall, or close to a barrier (rock, wall, cliff edge) aim for these items and let the splash damage do the job for you.

Plus you also have the ability to deal with choppers and tanks.

Are there helicopters in this game?

As an old-school PC flight sim player, I think I'd do rather well...

>>52156646
Sounds like a pretty cool loadout to me. I love the Russian weapons ;)

I not mad because getting killed in a game about killing is to be expected.

>>52156657

Blackhawks and apaches.

>>52156657
Yes, come in two varieties; transport and gunship. Transports carry 1 pilot, 2 side gunners and 2 passengers. Gunships carry 1 pilot and 1 gunner.

>>52156631
>>52156633
When?

>>52156657
There are helicopters but by God do they handle like shit. Not sure what's wrong but feels like they have been locked on easy mode.

>Playing the map from the demo
>Team is getting killed by snipers sitting on the hill
>Snipers on hill keep mortar spamming the objective
>Say fuck this and go recon
>Spot the bastard on the hill from a hard to notice location
>Use my mortar strike
>Triple Kill, Triple Kill, Kill.
>Shake my head at them

>>52156588
Don't worry. That's bullshit, you'll get them at a certain rank regardless.
I thought I was screwed as I haven't played any other Battlefield game other than 1942, but all of a sudden SLUGS, MAGNUM AMMO, OVERPOWERED SHOTGUNS.
Just rank up.

>>52156732

True, I think people have this expectation that they can jump in and just be john fucking rambo from day one and it couldn't be further from the truth.

The first day of playing is always the hardest because there's all these high ranked motherfuckers mowing your ass down with railguns and shit while you desperately try to fight back with the gun equivalent of a limp dick.

but when you score that first kill on your own and the one after it..........well....you got yourself a game.

Medic reporting in. I use the M14EBR instead of LMGs. Don't want to be a faggot like most medics that wield their kawaii little M60.

>>52156818
WHAT FUCKING RANK DUDE!?

Recon fag here, you guys need too learn that all recons aren't camping sniper cunts.
I blow up more tanks then most engis and i am more credit to team then any other class while defending/attacking m-com's whit my sensor balls.

Also SVD + red dot is fucking fun

>>52157134

Man...I almost wish there was a flamethrower in this game now..

>>52157114
Sorry, don't know.

All I know is that you'll have slugs and magnum ammo before 20.

>>52156976
>Kawaii m60

Say that to my face motherfucker not online and see what happens

Score 10730 point with 5 k/d ratio a minute ago
as assault
I AM THE FUCKING ANGRY WAR GOD

>>52152508
>I complain about a weapon while I use another op weapon

Assault has something OP
Engi has something OP
Medic has something OP
Recon is just hate fodder.

This would be a valid arguement except for assaults never drop ammo for anyone else and it's played my mw2 rejects that hurr durr 40mm grenade spam. Medics do nothing but run around firing their LMG and then decide to not use it when they feel the need to revive you when you are surrounded by 3-4 people. Engineers never kill the tanks because they have used their rockets to get the free easy 1 or 2 infantry kills. So when you think about it when the recon uses his c4 to blow up a tank it kind of is a big deal.

If you suck shit with the 40mm grenades, try using smoke grenades. Launch them at enemy tanks. Even if they're using 3rd person view they can't see shit anymore. It gives your mates a chance to plant C4.

>>52157303
uguuu

You guys, seriously, the game has been out a week. Give the younguns some time to learn how battlefield works, eh?

>>52150645
>Implying Shotgun recon isn't the best class, tossing out sensors on the front line, calling down mortars, or c4'ing everything

>>52155914
i came

>>52157363

I never see this happen. It must be because I'm playing on EU servers.

>>52157220
ok well I just unlocked it.

rank 16

>Assault
>Jack of all trades
>Has no way of defending himself against heavier vehicles

I think assault is more like anti-infantry than a jack of all trades. His 40MM and regular grenades do nothing against vehicles other than the quads.

>>52156976
Fuck you, don't insult my kawaii gun.

>>52157445
Shitters are always shitters unless you tell them how not to be. Even then most of them will still be sitting in that one spot on the edge of the map with the shrubs surrounded by that fence getting a 0.5 kill death ratio and not spotting targets.

>>52157707
Yeah, but you have to admit wathcing a couple bodies fly off an exploding Quad is pretty damn entertaining.

But nothing beats the cartwheeling of a dying vodnik that just discoverd my land mines.

>>52157707
I blew up a heavy tank with one

You guys were right. Magnum slugs are god damn awesome.

>play engie
>no ammo becaus failteam is all recon
>run up to enemy camping recons and drill 4 of them in a row
>lol

>>52157811
Were you shotty assault with C4? Because 40MM grenades and regular grenades don't do shit against heavy vehicles and are generally wasted if you shoot vehicles with them.

>>52157776
Second point is a good one. If your a bro, when you arent playing with bro's make sure your mike is on and teach folks some good tactics.

Teamwork isn't spontaneous, it takes some learning, and being patient and showing others the ropes is a lot more productive than shrieking at them or the usual 'heavy sigh' every time you die. Don't piss and moan about the sniper, tell your squaddies where he is so that they might go bugger him.

>>52157707
If you use a shotgun, I think you get C4.

>>52157920
They do a minor amount of damage (like 5 points), so generally they are a waste. I've killed a tank with the 40mm on occasion though. They just need to be on fuck-all health.

>>52157955
I know, I forgot to take that into consideration, my bad.

Still, the assault probably has the best primary weapons and using a shotty generally makes you less than effective at range or switching your main weapon out for the Saiga, M1 garand or the thompson will still make you a bit less effective than you can ultimately be.

It's a bit of a trade-off like that. Either you fuck up infantry or you fuck up infantry from close range and get C4 to fuck vehicles up with.