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fuck spies. that is all.

I haven't played in a while, but I recently found out the ambassador got a nerf.
wtf, spy was already weak as shit.

The blog hasn't been updated for one month.

>>51206396

Nobody cares about the Ambassador. What was weak was the Dead Ringer nerf.

It's like Valve WANT the Snipers and camping Engies to win.

>>51206547
yet I check it every day

>>51206547

Because Valve are concentrating on the L4D2 DLC and the WTF PORTAL TREASURE HUNT.

>>51206547
This is actually kinda driving me crazy

>>51206685
Dr got a nerf?
I still get massive 8 kill streaks...

Playing Engie alot more.

Pyros are fine, nerf Demos and Spies.

Sword demo is great because after all this time people still don't seem to know what do against t hem (except natascha heavies) I get 4-9 heads so damn easy

I am actually finding Pyros a big problem.
Maybe it's just me, but they feel... "Stronger".

Yeah I don't know why but I've been checking the blog more and more to see if they update.

>>51207111

You just got worse.

Pyros are as easy to kill as ever. Granted, when I am a pyro myself, I rarely WM1 (unless ubered, I guess), but mostly poof, shotgun and generally piss off other players.

>>51206861

They made it so that regardless of how much juice you use after activating it, if it's over 25% it automatically drops to 25%. Furthermore any ammo drop you go through only recharges by about another 25%. So you end up sitting around waiting for it to recharge a lot more.

They compensated by making the fake death more convincing and by making it less noisy, but it still kind've sucks. Particularly as Pyros remain ridiculously overpowered against Spies. Presumably because they suck against every other class. SPAH? HURR DURR SPAMMAN MAH FLAMES IT'S THE ONLY KILL I CAN GET NOWADAYS

As a spy, I hate pyros. Once they see you, you're dead. Who cares if you have the dead ringer, say goodbye to whatever kill streak you had.

I used to leg-shot pyros then head-shot pyros and that's it (with ambassador)
But know i need to shoot like 6 times and by that time I'm dead or on fire.

>>51207631

What's more, replenishing DR while cloaked will extend your invisibility time but will NOT extend your 90% resistance - you will start taking normal damage after the original time ran out. Plus, you start flickering.

>>51207111
They fixed the the reflect flares bug. You can do it again now.

>>51207631
>>51207944
>>51208052

Patience, brothers. Our time will come.

>>51208317
GOD DAMN IT I WANT THE TF2 COMPETIFAG BETA TOO

What server do all the bros play on?

>>51206547

Robin Walker was on holiday until just yesterday. I'm thinking they won't release anything until he has vetoed it. Also they're apparently getting Portal 2 ready, so they probably pulled off a lot of the TF2 team to work on that.

Imagine...a Portal multiplayer.

>>51208052
Now*

I WANT EPISODE 3 NOT TF2 UPDATES
I WILL CUT YOUR THROAT TILL U SCREAM MAMA MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAA MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>51208585

Unless you get guns, it would be pretty boring - making puzzles for 2 portals is hard enough. Making them for 4, 6 or 8 portals is neigh impossible.

>>51208573
weeabotique

>>51208317
I wonder.... will it replace the watches? Or the gun?

>>51208573
I've started to play on "AlphaOmega 2tpl_mine_alpine"

Really fun, You can find me as "David".

>>51208810
Gun.

>>51208585

I remember reading somewhere that Valve tried a Portal multiplayer, and they said it was "Not as fun as you'd think"

>>51207631
>implying the anti-spy class shouldn't be strong against spies

>>51208810

Betatesters reported that it replaces the revolver.

>>51208573
Yea I'd like to know too

I haven't played this game in a while.

>>51208052
yea i head shot a sniper 2 times with it and he did not die.

also i headshot a heavy as sniper and he did not die...

>>51208317

Goddamnit. Spies are supposed to suck against pyros. So, if you keep losing to them, you simply switch classes and take them out with their weakness.

Goddamned kids trying to main a class in TF2.

>>51209140
>I'm 13.

>>51208573
freefrag's arena server.

>>51209122
A fully charged headshot will kill a heavy. A regular one does 150 damage.

>>51208816
Anyone know? Anyone at all?

>>51208955
That's too bad. I use my revolver way too much as spy.

>>51208955

Oh so it'll be like the gunboats; fucking useless.

That's good.

>>51208573
Everyone on /v/ plays on the Teek.

Thank fuck for the ambassador nerf, we didn't need a better revolver anyway

Been playing a lot of Dustbowl because it's the only favorable server that isn't pure. Goddamn 2Fort Freak fuckers wont allow me my mods. Been getting good at playing defense or Spy. Invisi-Watch indeed is better than I gave it credit for.

>>51209686
Server IP please.

>>51209508

Read the thread, the DR nerf was discussed several posts above your.

I wonder what weapon the Demo would have gotten If they had won the war.

>>51209140

It's not as simple as that. No other class is as completely and easily fucked by there being another class on the field. Against Pyro's main enemy the Heavy for instance, he's got the Axtinguisher. Sniper meanwhile got not one but two anti-Spy weapons in his pack. What did the Spy get? The ability to stand still for very long periods of time, a fairly mediocre gun and the admittedly awesome DR, which now requires a fair amount of thought to get the most out of. It's not really fair.

>>51210158
they would have gotten something similar to the gunboats

>>51210134
Ah, thanks for pointing that out, I'm blind.

>>51210158

The prize for who won the war was the same. If the Demo had won the Gunboats would have replaced the Nade Launcher.

Given how powerful the stickie launcher is and how much damage he usually does to himself conc jumping, they would have actually made a great deal more sense on him.

>Play 2Fort
>Engies huddled up in the intel
>Play Spy
>sit at dispenser with enemies for entire round
>pyro comes in
>disappear
>systematically kill and sap EVERYTHING

>>51210244

>Pyro using the axetinguisher on the heavy

Only if the heavy is retarded enough to a) not notice that he is on fire, and b) not notice a pyro running towards him.

As for the sniper, you mean the jarate and razorback? Three shots at max while kill a sniper with the revolver, making the razorback useless, and jarate is really only good if you failed to kill him the first time. Not to mention every other class gets to eat shit when they face off against him.

>>51210572

Yeah, but it would have been more unbalanced; giving one class more toys than the other class really isn't fair. The fact that it's useless makes it ok.

The spy point system really needs to be nerfed. Wayyy too much point potential, even bad spies can keep up with most people by just backstabbing one person and then dying every single life.

cream gravy

I don't really like playing Pyro, it's too easy and not very much fun.

I'm still spying better than ever since the DR...change (not going to call it a nerf, the quieter sound is very helpful).

Soldier with the rocket launcher + buff banner is absolute power and I hope to God Valve never nerfs it.

I only really have fun with the Engineer during the times where I put my sentries in ridiculous / surprising spots.

I think I need to start playing Sniper more. I gave up on the Huntsman because spamming it and receiving kills every 2 seconds wasn't very rewarding for me, I prefer being an actual Sniper. At this point I'm tossing up between the SMG and Jarate.

That's my two cents on playing TF2, although since uni started the only day I have designated to play with friends is Monday night. Valve better not release a bunch of awesome things for it any time soon.

>>51210951
Engineers need a point nerf.

They get points for pretty much anything.

Kills (1), Teleports (1/2) and healing from dispensers (1 / 600).

http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Points

>>51210841

Yeah, but the point is they HAVE those choices, slim as they may be, in response to Pyros bitching about Heavies and Snipers bitching about Spies. What do you do as a Spy if some fag is just spamming his flamethrower around his base or sentry constantly? "Hope" pretty much covers it.

>play Spy on DoubleCross
>dead ringer my way to their side of bridge
>wait for enemies to start rolling out
>heavy, okay
>being healed by a medic, sweet
>being healed by a medic, why the f...
>being healed by a medic, what is this i dont even
>being followed by another heavy
>backstabtrainCHOOCHOOOOMOTHERFUCKERS.jpg

>>51211205

It's a good thing; it makes sure that engineers focus on what's important.

>>51211205
That's not as bad, cause even a bad engineer can be credit to team, while a shit spy is just useless.

>>51211025

I like all the things that came out of the War Update, except the Equalizer. That shit is beyond ridiculous.

>>51211025
>SMG vs Jarate
I personally use Jarate much more but SMG is really good to get rid of Scouts.
I'd still never leave home without my Jarate but I like SMG for getting rid of the pests.

>>51211265

Stop playing spy, and go demoman or maybe heavy.

The game is made so that you should be changing classes as the battle changes. If you stay in the same class than either you or the enemy is too stupid to change tactics.

>>51211523

>Blaze is pyro

Oh, this shit is hilarious.

I got all the Pyro achievements, now for some reason I don't main him as much as I did.

>>51211523

>>51211528
>Equalizer
Its a straight upgrade and really needs a fucking nerf. That speed boost is beyond ridiculous.

>>51211727

Except I regularly kill them with 2 shots from the medigun. It's really not that hard.

>>51209140
pyros are easy shit with the regular revolver

3-4 shots, which is easy to pull off before they reach you, and since you aren't PROSNIPORAMBASSADORING it doesn't matter where you hit them

>>51211727
Having a soldier running around fast with an Equalizer in hand is pretty much like saying "PLEASE KILL ME".

>>51211885
>> 2 shots from medigun

>>51210841
because its completely implausible a pyro would ever end up next to a heavy, but not directly in front of his gun

if you try flanking with him like you're supposed to instead of w+m1 then you'd find the axetinguisher is a very useful if somewhat situational weapon to have

>>51211885
>>51211885
Personally I one shot Medics all the time with it that see me coming.

Equalizer does need a nerf, sure you have low health but it gives you so much utility! You can now escape if you want to, or you can do a berserker charge and one shot several classes. You can give yourself the speed boost whenever you like!

At least the Demoman requires 2 item slots and heads to make the sword worthwhile. Equalizer just requires itself and you to take damage and that's it.

>>51212100

They usually have next to no health, and attract a lot of attention from teammates. There was a time when one was coming towards me, and I shot him with my medigun. He was down in two hits.

With the equalizer to be useful, Soldier's need to have very little health, otherwise they're just Scouts that refuse to use the guns and can't be healed. And, if their health is that low, any gun will kill them in on shot.

>>51212336
Chasing a fleeing heavy and medic, both on fire and with the axtinguisher is much more satisfying than backburning them

>>51212394
Please at least tell me you mean Syringe Gun...

>>51212382

This. I really, really don't like "rewarding" Soldiers with the ability to run faster by shooting them.

>>51212336

Sure, but that's the point. It only works in certain situations. If a pyro keeps flanking you in this way, switch to a more suitable class. Same thing with spy. If pyros keep ripping your shit apart, switch classes, or switch tactics. I regularly kill pyros or avoid them as spy.

>>51212382
>you can do a berserker charge and one shot several classes

good luck doing that with next to no health
try playing against people who don't suck

>>51212535

Oh shit. Yeah, I meant the syringegun. You can't use the medigun on enemies. Or on friendlies using the equalizer.

... YET THEY STILL SPAM THE MEDIC BUTTON. GODDAMN.

Quick question, the Flamethrower and Back Burner both share exactly the same stats with the exception of the Compression Blast and Backhit Crits, correct?

>>51212394
>I shot him with my medigun.

I think you mean blutsauger.

>>51212845

Yes. You trade compression blast for criticals, basically.

Pro-tip
If you have 200 health with the equalizer you do less damage than you would if you had 200 health with the shovel.

>>51212874

Oh, I don't use blutsauger; I'm more of a defensive medic than anything so I need that health regen.

>>51212394
you are missing the point faggot the medigun is the one that heals people

It's amazing how accurate this picture is

>>51212959
That only matters when you hitting things like sentries/spies. I'd use it if I was getting healed all the time though.

>baww spies are underpowered
>baww pyros are overpowered
>baww I can't kill melee retards

protip: stop being shit at casual games

>>51213202
So how's ODST for ya huh?

>>51212751
>>51212751
>>51212751
>try playing against people that don't suck

Hurrr trying being good enough to ambush people at the right time and not just charge into their gunfire.

Shit's not hard when you run as fast as a scout and you ONE SHOT THEM.

>>51212911
Personal views on the trade ups between the Flamethrower and Backburner?

I earned the BackBurner early on and equipped that shit for life, killing from behind was so cash, but recently, I find that the compression blast is fucking awesome troll of a dickmove.

Plus whenever I get knocked with a CompBlast, I shit bricks. It's nice to know I can instill that fear in my enemies.

Also, can you kill someone with a direct hit of compression blast?

>>51212959

He doesn't even move all that fast; his max speed is 384 at 1 health. Scouts move at 400, pyros at 300.

The only real problem is the damage, and even then it's not that hard to kill someone with 20 health left.

>>51213140
super.

>>51212394

He's more like a Spy with Scout's speed. If the enemy is distracted or doesn't see him coming- and if the player uses him like a Scout/Spy it can be- it's a OHK with no chance of getting away. He also gets the ability to just run away if things are getting too hot for him, something I find a bit much if you're playing Heavy particularly.

The thing also CRITS. For something like 500 damage at low health. I mean, I don't even.

>>51212959
Then that fucking retard of a soldier that you ubered decides it's a good idea to whack a sentry with the equalizer.

God damn that happened countless times already. It's better to give ubers to backburner pyros if it's going to be like that.

>>51213140

>>51213285
if you can't kill them anyway when you ambush them as a soldier you suck

all the equalizer does is give the soldier a useful tool for retreating

>>51213312
No, but you can reflect their projectiles and kill them

example - Crit rocket, you can reflect it back if you are lucky enough and kill them.

Anyone want to add?

I play spy a lot, and thoroughly enjoy it. Although I DO admit that pyros are a major pain in the ass, understandably they are the anti spy class, and that this fireproof suit could come as a new meaning for spies, replacing the revolver with it is absolutely ridiculous! I use my revolver all the time, from taking down sentries, to eliminating razorback snipers. And even sniping scouts with the ambassador. It's insane to trade my revolver for that!

>>51213312

It's all about scenario and playstyle.

You need to be a defensive, or at least flanking pyro to use backburner any well at all. And, compression blast is really only useful against rockets, grenades, huntsman arrows (although, you have to be particularly good to deflect those), and possibly against an ubered medic. If you find yourself facing off against other classes, or people that don't use those tactics, or if you find yourself getting enemies from behind a lot, then you'd best equip the backburner.

That said, I never go into battle with backburner unless I'm sure the compression blast is useless in that match; it's better to have a compression blast and not need it than need it and not have it.

>>51213521
You're ridiculous, yes. Start a fire fight with low life or INSTAKILL them. Leave them with no chance to fight back at all? Yeah, no. Stop talking.

>>51213690
There's a fireproof suit? Fuck.

>>51213271
>I'm a Nintendo fanboy

sorry to hear that

>>51213312
No, but environmental kills are easy with it.

>>51213321
>his max speed is 384 at 1 health
That's a ton for a class whose base speed is lower than 100%.

>>51213521
No, that's such bullshit and you're an awful player if you think so.

Do you not play Soldier? Or are you shit at it? There are plenty of times when playing that you'll be in a tight quarters situation and firing your Rocket is going to kill you. Rather obliterate them with the most powerful melee attack in the game in 1-2 swings than kill us both. You just don't know when to switch to melee.

>>51213312
nothing better then countering a DH soldier and killing him with his own rocket then Mic spam of Geese Howard saying "hut too easy"

>>51213832

Only with equalizer equipped though; if he could run that fast with the direct hit, then there would be a problem.

>>51213690
Playing as an anti-spy myself, I can say this is a fair trade. If you can disappear again without afterburn giving you away, there's no way you should be able to surprise around a corner with a revolver drawn. You try a backstab again, I'll keep a better look out.

I really wish the Spy, and every class for that matter, recieved more unlocks like the Dead Ringer. It's unique, useful, and offered a different variation of Spy gameplay. The Ambassador and Cloak&Dagger were just slighty modified versions of their original weapons, but that's not what makes me dislike them. It's that they add absolutely nothing new. It's possible to only slighty modify a weapon, and yet still offer a new type of gameplay (the Scottish Resistance, with a few balance tweaks that actually supported the point of the unlock, would be a fine example). But those two unlocks failed to achieve even that.

>>51213312

No. However, one useful thing most people don't know about the blast- if you use it while you're using the flame, it extends the reach of the flame a bit. Often times I've been using my flamethrower and my enemy is out of range, and then I throw in a blast and it extends it enough to ignite them.

I think equalizer would be perfectly balanced if the attack time was increased. 0.8 seconds is too fast for something that can instakill; make it long enough so that the other classes have a chance to melee them to do death.

Perhaps make it so that attack time increases as health decreases as well?

>>51213714
what you're describing is very situational
it happens, but it's not a strategy you're usually going for

>>51213989
Yes, while this may be true, that only applies for ambushes, and ambushes seldom happen with a revolver unless it is against a spy and very rarely a soldier. If the enemy is unaware of your presence then a backstab is the way to go, and then as you have mentioned negating the afterburn on second thought WOULD make for a very smart choice for a sneaky spy who wants to live long, but at the cost of a gun it is rather poor for the battlespy. Still It is a somewhat fair trade on account that there is only so much to take away.

>>51214214
Situational, no shit. But that doesn't change the fact it's a tool available to you that Soldier never had before. It's a free and very powerful option open to you that is foolish to turn down. You have a lot of choices with the Equalizer.

>>51213312

The Compression Blast has far, FAR more versatility than the Backburner. Yes, the Backburner can kill quickly in certain circumstances, but the Compression Blast has a far greater chance of being an asset during a match.

>>51214015

Absolutely. The Ambassador was an absolute nothing of a sidegrade. The C&D does nothing except encourage crap camping tactics.

Meanwhile the Demoman recieves a super awesome update, where he has the choice to become a completely different bezerker class, or a cunning multiple trap layer.

>>51213980
True, I still think that boost of speed is still a bit too much for a slow class.

>>51214434
it is very useful, but not broken like so many shit players (some of them in this thread) claim

Some people were asking about the Dead Ringer nerf. I think it was something like, de-cloaking early will automatically set it down to 60% charge and when you pick-up an ammo crate to refill the charge, the most you can get is 35%.

The ammo crate nerf has slowed me down a bit, otherwise, I cut the other team to ribbons with the Dead Ringer.