What's so bad about FFX? It's a really good game. The story was decent, there was somewhat of a challenge, the storytelling was good, the music was good, and the graphics still hold up really really well. The gameplay and the turnbased is excellent. I really can't find anything BAD about the game.
Yeah, I like it.
It's my favorite Final Fantasy. Played and beaten it three times.
I don't see what was bad about it, either. I haven't played many FFs, but I thoroughly enjoyed FFX.
In before "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
no regular world map like in the others, just a shit point and click where to go at the endalso the story is fucking retarded coincidentally at the end, where you end up fighting a tiny spider that was supposed to have the humanity in a chokehold for their lives for years and years
>>48490265It's one of my favorite games. The Grid Sphere sucks Satan's balls though.
WIMPS EVERYWHERE
It's not a bad game, but;- Unlikable, far-too-optimistic main character- Bad romance- No overworld- Too much of the game focused on recent history instead of the present or what happened 1000 years (or whatever) ago- Few mentionable or rememberable NPCs- Very few Final Fantasy staples, and of the ones that made it into the game they were extremely short lived.- The whole Yu Yevon thing was a mess and the final fight was pointless.Actually, you're making me remember how mediocre and boring it actually was.
I like it a great deal. Liked the characters, I felt Tidus was actually very well done. Why the fuck SHOULDNT a teen superstar be all whiny and bitchy after being thrown into a world he knows nothing of, with people who have NO idea who the fuck he is?Whiny brat done right. ALSO LOL FATHER ISSUES SO THE STORY RELATES TO ME BETTER HAHA.
>FF>good>X>good>Story was decent>Somewhat a challenge>storytelling>good>music was good>graphics >hold up well>gameplay and turnbased>excellent>Implying you can't find anything bad about the game
>>48490513>no regular world map like in the others, just a shit point and click where to go at the endThat isn't bad. Linearity isn't bad at all. Hell the world map is there, just different.>also the story is fucking retarded coincidentally at the end, where you end up fighting a tiny spider that was supposed to have the humanity in a chokehold for their lives for years and yearsThe fuck? Wasn't this the entire point? A giant whale has humanity in a chokehold and the way to stop it is to sacrifice someone to put it to sleep. Only for it to reawaken 10 years later for someone else to do it again.
The final boss was a huge let down, visually and climatically. The character design department must have been on vacation or something.
>>48490841If I divide every point the OP makes into green text I can dismiss it without having to provide any facts or an argument.
>>48490777>- Unlikable, far-too-optimistic main characterSo you hate optimism and you hate OMG EMO, fucking choose one, cunt.
>>48490777I quite like how optimistic Tidus was. Same with Zidane. IX and X are my favorites because you don't have these main characters that are whiney end "emo" the entire time.
end game is too much trollan and grindan
>>48490904But that's almost all Final Fantasies, ne, Square games.Name a game developed by Squaresoft/Square/the current Square division of Square-Enix made in the past 15 years where the final boss wasn't some retarded looking mess that made absolutely no sense.
>>48490265Well the fact that is more a movie than game maybe.
>>48491040>>48491040>>48491040>>48491040>>48491040>>48491040
>>48491041>FFX grind>FF games needing to grindChrist you suck balls.
>>48490777>- Few mentionable or rememberable NPCs>Implying you can remember any npcs from any game that aren't playable characters.
>>48490978Yeah I was thinking this too, but there is a middle ground between I MUST HELP EVERYBODY NO MATTER WHAT and I AM A SHITSTAIN ON THE WORLDS UNDERPANTS AND EVERYONE ELSE SUCKS TOO.
>>48490777>- Bad romanceinb4 RAH RAH AH-AH-AH
>>48490904i gotta agree with this guy final fighting was stupid when you hadta fight dark aeons and yuyevoncouldnt die during that, stupid stuffs..
>>48490777They talked a great deal about the past near the end of the game. The past is the most important thing in the game plotwise.
>>48490978>Implying I ever hated OMG EMO>Implying there isn't a middle ground>Implying there aren't more personalities in video games than those two extremes>>48491040Zidane had hopeful optimism. Tidus had blind, infant-like optimism. Please don't compare the two.
>>48491041If you had to grind in FFX, there's something wrong with how you played.
>>48491060Final Fantasies IX, X and XII.The final boss of IX made no sense, but didn't look all that retarded.The final boss of X was retarded looking, but he made sense.The final boss of XII was arguably retarded looking, though the clockwork wings are undeniably sexy. He also made sense.
>>48490975Well, considering that most of what the OP says aren't facts or arguments (other than there were graphics, music, a story, and turnbased combat), I don't see why someone has to refute it with facts or arguments.
I fucking hated Tidus.
>>48491040Zidane's the best FF protagonist by FAR. Probably one of my all-time favourite protagonists in general.
>>48490860>Only for it to reawaken 10 years later for someone else to do it again.yeah, too bad that no other group tried to do what Tidus and the others did, right? not even the Albheds that where all like "depr we dont follow Yevon, hurr" FF10 portraits a world so easy to control and destroy that you dont even want to save itby the way, read again, GOD IS A FUCKING SPIDER THAT YOU CAN KILL USING ZOMBIE AND THROWING A PHOENIX DOWN
Also had the hardest boss fights in any game everSEYMOUR FLUXSINYUNALESCAPENANCEI AM LOOKING AT YOUAnd ESPECIALLY YOU Evrae, admit it /v/, I am not the only one who thinks he is the hardest boss ever
>>48491271>Implying Zidane didn't go OMG EMO I'M NOT A REAL PERSON I WAS CREATED BAWWWWWWWWWWWWW
>>48491271There's nothing wrong with his optimism, and I'll comapre the two till I'm blue in the face. It's nice to have someone who has some hope... ya know, just an upbeat attitude.
>>48491434I actually put the game down for about a month after fighting and losing to Evrae multiple times.
>>48491134>Implying I can'tFFX and FFXI are the only Final Fantasies I've played where I can't remember more than 40 NPCs. I don't include FFXII because I only played it for ten minutes before getting fucking bored.>>48491270Too bad most of the game before that was talking about boring history of the different cities and faceless NPCs and how badass Jecht was when he came through. The only important detail I can remember about the game besides Seymour constantly being an asshole is Rikku being scared of lightning due to what happened when she was younger,
>>48491311Pay more attention to what Garland said in Pandemonium. He explains everything clear as day. And then Necron completes this when you speak with him.
>>48491434>underwater evrae>phoenix downpic related
>>48491438>Implying he didn't get over it, and that his attitude wasn't influenced by the fact that he was created to kill the people that were his friends and steal their souls
HA HA HA HA HA HA
>>48491060Yeah, good point. I can't really refute that, at least out of memory or quick Wikipedia searches.Still, my problem wasnt that it was some exdeath-ish mess of whateverthefuck they felt like putting together, it was that yu-yevon was very... plain? It was just like a black blob. A relatively small one at that. I mean, I know the whole less is more argument, and maybe it was just a manifestation of all the "bad things" and blah blah blah, but man - it seemed like that would be the one time some creature of nightmare would be very relevant to use.
the "final fight" was against Braska's Final Aeon.the yu-yevon portion was story and nothing more, and the entire yu-yevon thing was well done when you realize what they are trying to tell you.that one mans idea of what is right (yu-yevon) can destroy nations, the initial goal of yu-yevon was twisted and got completely out of control, and no one was willing to end the cycle.
>>48491386>yeah, too bad that no other group tried to do what Tidus and the others did, right? not even the Albheds that where all like "depr we dont follow Yevon, hurr"The fuck? Braska, Jecht, and Auron did it. The Al Bhed wanted to destroy Sin their own way. Using Machina and not sacrificing anyone. Did you even pay attention to the story?>GOD IS A FUCKING SPIDER THAT YOU CAN KILL USING ZOMBIE AND THROWING A PHOENIX DOWNWell nobody told you to read gamefaqs and abuse a method for an easy victory. Then again... I'm sure square put that in for casuals.
>>48490777>>48491220RAH RAH OOH MAH MAH RAHRAH OOH LA LA
Didn't care for most of the characters, voice acting was mediocre, don't even remember what the story was.But I do think it had the most fluid battle system as far as turn-based FFs go.
>>48491364Same here. I can replay the game and still smile and laugh at his antics. Never get tired of him.
>The gameplay and the turnbased is excellent.
>>48491587Oh, Necron definitely has thematic significance and could be considered to be the 'this is why you don't destroy the crystal, jackass' issue, but as an entity and boss he is almost utterly pointless.Looks decent and has a pretty cool theme once it gets past the howling wind, though.
>>48491719YOU'RE DOING IT WRONGRAH RAH AH AH AH ROMA ROMA MAGAGA OOH LA LA
It's fine. Voice acting if the most annoying part about it, besides that it's one of the best ps2 games.
>>48491386That isn't "god" per se. That's only Yevon, the man who led Zanarkand against Bevelle, and after seeing the machina that Bevelle employed, he made Dream Zanarkand to preserve it, and then constructed magic armor for him to destroy his enemies, but with the passage of time, he lost his humanity and became Sin. The future generations then perceived that using machina would be to incur the wrath of Yevon, and that Sin was his punishment.
>>48491773uhh... it's based of Final Fantasy Tactics. Which many claim to have some great gameplay. Think about it.
I see numerous posts bitching about Yu Yevon not making sense.>implying Necron did
>>48491438>Implying I implied anything about Zidane's arguable "emo" attitude>Implying being momentarily confused or upset to any degree over a life changing situation makes a character "emo">>48491483Tidus would find a bright side to half the cast being infected with some sort of mutated advanced AIDS and spend hours trying to convince them to be happy.
>>48491923The machina is Vegnagun.
>>48490265
>>48491722FF X was the least turn-based of all of the numbered FFs up to its point. The ATB system is an utter joke of a 'real time' system since in all of the games it is in it basically defaults to a cycle of unending turns.If character's ATB gauges actually filled at appreciably different speeds, it might matter. As it stands, the delay/agility mechanic causes FF X to be the LEAST turn-based.
Tidus and Yuna's voice overs.FUFSFVGDGXCV
>>48491919The ONLY voice actor that bothers me is Yuna's. She didn't even bother me that much in FFX... but now that's I'm replaying FFX-2, I don't see how I handled it.
>>48491993>HURR DURR I AM TRIPFAG WORSHIP MY STATUS>DERP
Yep, 5-star game this is.
>>48491434First time through, I thought I was in hell when I fought Evrae.
>>48492004Which leads to the point, if Vegnagun was always there why didn't they use it against Sin?
it's one of my favorite games ever
>>48491939I don't see how FF X has gameplay similar to FFT. What are you talking about.>>48491952They both made sense. Ultimecia, unless they came and said it really was Rinoa from the future, makes no sense.
>>48491993What's wrong with that? Why wallow in misery?
As someone who owns both, I can assure you that it is just as linear as FFXIII. Take from that what you will.
Relevant.
>>48492183Wasn't Shuyin making anyone that got close to Vegnagun go crazy?
>>48492183because vegnagun would destroy the world. which kind of defeats the point.>>48492200Character turns comes up, choose a command, and see how far his turn goes. Different commands places the character in different areas.
>>48491585>FFX and FFXI are the only Final Fantasies I've played where I can't remember more than 40 NPCs. I don't include FFXII becauseWhat other numbered FF's have you played? Name 40 npcs for each, and state why they were important to the plot or a character's development.
>>48492200The system by which characters gain turns (a hidden meter that fills based on their agility stats and gives the character a turn when full, decreased by different amounts after an action depending on the action taken) is almost exactly the same as the system used for gaining turns in FFT/Tactics Ogre.
>>48491688>>48491688>impliying if you dont do that its not easythere is no way you can lose that fight >I'm sure square put that in for casuals.yeah put the easiest boss as the last one, that will motivate you to play and not leave the game because its hard, makes sense...
What's so good about FFX? It's a really bad game. The story was retarded , there was somewhat of a challenge, the storytelling was confusing , the music was good, and the graphics still hold up really really well. The gameplay and the turnbased is kinda decent.I really can't find anything GOOD about the game.
>>48491841HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THE SPECIFICS DAMN YOU ITS GIBERISH.GODDAMMIT I DID MY BEST.
>>48492474Just because you didn't like it doesn't mean it's a bad game. I just cannot understand why people call out a game for being bad just because they don't like it. I mean, I HATE FFVII, but I'm not gonna say it's a bad game.
>>48492474>I really can't find anything GOOD about the game.>the music was goodderp.But seriously, I'm assuming you mean to only just the actual gameplay, correct? Which you stated was "kinda decent". Why do you feel the game is really bad, then? Where is the jump from decent to bad?
>>48492095>Oh my god my ass is so sore right now because I can't fucking argue the main subject, time to act like a fucking retard and flee the thread. I feel so accomplished.>>48492221Sorry, but forcing child-like optimism on any and every situation is an immensely unlikable trait. The few times Tidus did get serious, no one could respect or care to acknowledge what he had to say. He comes off as some sort of sheltered child who was home schooled and was denied any form of interaction with the outside world, then one day he's booted out the door and he just skips around a Detroit-like-slum giggling and smiling at every dirty nigger he comes across.
>>48492700>The few times Tidus did get serious, no one could respect or care to acknowledge what he had to sayWhat times are you talking about?
>>484924001, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, and a bunch of spin offs, though I've only completed 7, 8, 9, and 10 (and some spin offs). We both know I'd be here for hours typing out at least 40 NPCs I recall from each game so I won't, but I can honestly say I remember like, THREE from FFX (Seymour, Jecht, and Brother). That's pretty fucking bad.I think I remember more from FF7 and 8 than any other FF, though.
>>48492700Eh, to each their own I suppose. I personally really liked his optimism. It was a nice break from "whatever.." Squall. But hey, guess he's not everyone's cup of tea :)
>>48492700>The few times Tidus did get serious, no one could respect or care to acknowledge what he had to say.ANd they did this continuously. Lulu, Wakka, and Kimarhi hated Tidus and thought he didn't know what he was doing in the beginning. Only Rikku, who didn't know what the pilgrimage was about really listened to Tidus. If anyone was giving orders around it was Auron and Lulu.
>>48492700Only the rectally pained imply hurt ass, I suggest if you don't want to look anally probed that you expand your vocabulary.
>>48491434What the hell is wrong with you people who lost to Evrae? I always found him to be one of the easier boss battles. Party low on health? Rikku uses Al Bhed Potions. Don't have many of those? Well why the fuck not? You didn't use Steal on every machina you came across in the desert? And come on. Auron -> Armor Break and Mental Break + Tidus -> Slow and Haste/Hastega + Wakka on Attack Reels = one dead Evrae.
>>48492700You are so full of shit that you're making ME feel like I need to crap.
>>48492909>>48492909Ok... then I'll make it a lot easier. Name 20 in FF3.
>>48492957>Go to thesaurus.com>Think you're witty>Imply you're still not huttburt
I didn't like the world map a rail-controlled map of paths with no real controllable airship.Other than that I think it's still a decent game
I could do the 40 npc thing for 7 and 9. and i've beaten six different FF's.
>>48492654just because you liked it doesn't mean its a good game, I found it mediocre because:-no world map-lineal as shit -retarded story, seriously, braska and auron tried to fight yunaleska, but this shit with sin was happening years before that, no human or albhed or ronso or anything tried to fight their way out? no one? its not like they didint have the means, you use standard things, swords, spears...-forgettable characters, except Auron the only thing it had that I remember still today is the fact that is the first final fantasy (and the only if Im not mistaken) where the protagonist and the love interest kiss each other AND YOU ACTUALLY SEE IT
>>48493095God damn you.
>>48493070Well, FFX was the first one I played. I didn't have trouble with him my second and third playthroughs, but my first one, he was hell. Just one of "those" bosses I guess. I do remember FINALLY beating him on my first playthrough, only to die when I was fighting the guards on the ground.
>>48493095Not the same guy, but I'm pretty sure that unless you count the multitude of different villains you fought, I'm pretty sure there weren't 20 in III.
>We both know I'd be here for hours typing out at least 40 NPCs I recall from each game so I won't,I challenge you to name 40 distinct NPCs in FF1.Spoilers: There aren't 40 NPCs in FF1 with names.More spoilers: If you count each set of unnamed NPCs as three characters (as in, count all of the unnamed dwarves as 3 distinct NPCs), there still aren't 40 NPCs in FF1.
>>48492909>Implying Seymour wasn't a playable character
>>48493095CidDeshNinaCidCidCidCidCidCidCidCidCidCidTopapaCidCidCidCidCidCid
don't forget kujackie chan.
>>48493240I'm not gonna argue with you. Why can't you just label your opinion as such. AN OPINION. And... why would you come into an FFX thread if you didn't like it?
>>48493311I personally count both enemies and villagers to be NPCs, as long as they have some sort of role or distinct trait.>>48493354see>>48493260>>48493361Wait...he was? I honestly can't remember.
>>48492909We both know we each have the time for it. I honestly do not believe you remember AT LEAST 40 NPCs from each final fantasy game you've played.How does many memorable NPCs make a good game, btw? Or how is it a good thing in general? I have no problem with the supposed lack of memorable NPC's in FFX, so I'm genuinely curious as to why it's a big deal to you.
Why no one pronounces Tidus name in the game?
>>48493560Yes, on the fight against Sinspawn Gui. Fuck that shit, I'll always remember that fight because it's the first battle that gave me a goddamn hard time. Then you can use Seymour for that battle. Oh and Anima is Seymour's mom
so.. biggs and wedge, eh?
>>48493620Because you can change it. It's pronounced TEE-dus.
>>48493556read the OPs post, he wants to know why people didint like itthat and I dont have anything better to do that show my constant hate for video games that I dont like whenever I can on 4chan, I hate FFX because it started the "no world map" shit in FF next to come
>>48493620Because you can still rename him.
>>48493688FUCK SINSPAWN GUI!fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
how do you pronouce masamune?
>>48493560You control Seymour in operation Mi'hen when Yuna gets attacked by the boss.
>>48493717FFv13 has world mapsHell FFXII's world is still too huge.
>>48493717Eh, like I've said before, to each his own. I like it, you don't. We all have different tastes.
>>48493620Why indeed.>>48493800It's pronounced Ma-sa-moo-neigh.
>>48493240Implying Lulu was forgettable.
>>48493800Mazz-ah-m-you-nnn
>control seymour>wait 50 turns for overdrive to fill up>OH MY GOD HERE IT COMES>its ultima with different colorsdamnit
>>48493897>Ma-sa-moo-neigh.
how do you pronounce Baroque sword?
>>48494037Bah-rock saw-d
>>48493574I honestly don't, I gotta flee in 25 minutes, and I was honestly mistaken when I said I could remember at least 40 NPCs from every Final Fantasy I've played. I just had 6, 7, 8, and 9 in mind when I said it and wasn't thinking of it when I started listing the others I've played.Rememberable NPCs are important when you're playing a game that involves traveling the entire planet. It adds atmosphere and personality to the game. It also gives you a reason to want to progress in the game; to both save the delightful characters you've met so far and to look forward to what new characters you might encounter. What's the point of saving a planet for a few people you're partied with you don't even like and the main character is already dead? I can't be compelled to do something just for the sake of doing it, especially in a game where the gameplay consists of little more than clicking through menus and walking from point A to point B.This made FFXII even more of a chore to me, and why I got bored within minutes and never picked it back up.
ITT: pronunciations
My favourite. It was the best in every respect in my opinion. The visuals were more original and inspired than the previous two, the score was as good as any Uematsu has done, for once the main character wasn't a moping sack of shit even if he was a bit annoying at times, most of the characters were great with lots of development and you really felt for them (except Kimahri goddamn), it explored some complex themes like religion, the graffix were above and beyond anything else at the time. Not a big JRPG fan but I love this game.
what about auroch?
>>48494037Throat wobbler mangrove.
>>48494017It's true. It's not Ma-sa-moo-nee, you retarded dicksplinter.
because of this.
I hate saying Tee-fa, Yoof-fee, Tee-dus, etcI'll always say Tiff-ah, Tide-us, and Air-iss.
In regards to the complaints of Tidus being too optimistic/cheerful:"I was just fooling myself.""Maybe it was that day... on the sea, under the burning sun."[Various shots of people on the boat, heads hanging in sadness, are shown]"I started to give up hope.""I was in a foreign world, I wasn't going home.""This was my new reality and I was stuck in it for good." Yeah real optimistic you guys. This is only like an hour or two into the game.
Probably the last FF in recent memory that felt like a Final Fantasy game. Maybe XIII will change that.
>>48494152They mention that in-game, what are you talking about?
>>48494152Aww-rock
>>48494309>Tide-usHoly fucking shit, his name is Tide-us and the game is all about tides and water. I get it.
>>48494226i'd tap any of those girls in a heartbeat.
>>48494376>Cloud>Squall>Zidane>Tidus