BB, lol hadukens

you're mother

>>47942817
>spacing's too complex for me.

They're both for casuals.
Where's the option for a good fighting game?
Pic related.

>>47942817

lol at poorly balanced characters. dont mind me, ill be over here, not getting raped by an unbalanced blob

>>47942817
nobody will remember blazblue when "Generic animu fighter from AKYSYS _____ _________" comes out in 2020. People will still remember the alfather of the fighting game genre.

Go suck more dicks faggot

Playing BBCS on PC here. Nearly came when I managed to do some combos with Hazama playing on a keyboard.

>>47942926

troll


-10/10

>>47942960

Oh, you're so mad.

I feel for you.

Never liked SF, I'm not about to start now.

>>47942990
Why do people continue on insisting this? Keyboard doesn't make you a pro, its easy mode

Fuck you OP I like both. Now both sides are gonna be trolled to hell and back.
"LOL HADOUKEN"
"HURR ANIMU FIGHTER"
Faggots.

>>47942990
>playing with a keyboard
>single player

>>47943100

I never said that making combos on keyboard made me a pro. I just think it's harder to do some moves, like 214.

They're both excellent, but SF4 is less of a mess. If you wanna do crazy combos and feel like a badass, BB is your game, but if you want more methodical play based on spacing yourself and getting in your opponent's head, SF all the way.

Me personally, I never cared much for games that focused a lot on hit-confirming into big combos. Just sort of puts the whole round on hold until the game stops letting the guy press buttons.

>>47942973
>nobody will remember blazblue when "Generic animu fighter from AKYSYS _____ _________" comes out in 2020. People will still remember the alfather of the fighting game genre.

So while Aksys keeps things fresh and make new series and mix things up, Capcom sticks to the same old Street Fighter... and this is a good thing? Um yeah, no.

They're both solid games. SF is a bit better competitively I guess, but nobody on /v/ plays at a competitive level where it actually matters.

Hmm guys every fighting game require spacing. More options to move around doesnt equal less spacing. Play sf4 if you like footsies and a slower pace, BB if you like things a little more spicy.

It's like choosing between green poo, and brown poo.
But given the options, Street Fighter IV. Although the worst of the series, it at least has some level of balance. Also, BlazBlue looks like the characters were designed by 13 year olds.
Probably because that's who it's marketed for

>>47943100

Yeah, playing a keyboard is harder as every single movement input requires a direct digit, doing stuff like super jump cancels or hundred hands combos, it's much much easier to slide instead of having to digit shit on keyboard.

I fail to see why would someone brag about it, and I don't think that guy was bragging.

>>47943411
great job missing the fucking point and being a hypocrite

>So while Aksys keeps things fresh and make new series and mix things up
Taking the guilty gear formula and subducting the roster=fresh?lol
>> Capcom sticks to the same old Street Fighter
Anybody here SF3=SF4?...Anybody
>and this is a good thing? Um yeah, no.
Again, enjoy your fucking weeaboo fighters that ditch their "title" for a new roster+story and downgrade their gameplay instead
Anybody
Guilty Gear Accent Core<BlazBlue?

Didn't think so. You can argue the same about SF3 to 4, but at least the table can actually be split on that. Never heard anyone find BB remotely superior to the original GGX either.

>>47943012


erm no? but feel free to grasp at any straw you have, lol retard

Blazblue has way more defensive options. And running.

Both are good games inferior to their predecessors.
BB is unbalanced and doesn't have the depth of Guilty Gear
SFIV is slow and less complicated than ST/HF.
However, both are worth playing and are attempting to improve. Of course, BBCS didn't to a terribly good job of this and SSFIV may wreck the "as good as your gonna get" balance of street fighter iv, so hazamashrug.jpg.

>>47942762

HEAVEN OR HELL LET'S ROCK!

>>47943582
>SF4
>balance

lol yeah whatever you say dude.

>>47943453

I resent that.

>>47943582
i like the faces of the character on SF4 when they are about to get hit...wait..thats why i deleted the game 20 seconds after installing it

>>47943582
And by "some balance" you mean "the most balance that any fighting game installment has ever had in its first iteration in the history of time"

>>47943704
>>SFIV is slow and less complicated than ST/HF
Super TURBO
HYPER fighter
>Complete 2d animation
Hur
DUR

And don't get me started on
>TS>SF4
THIRD strike.
>Implying third iteration of same shit>First iteration of SF

Again, the SF3 fanbase can scrub my fucking nuts ALL day long.
>Watch Daigo vid, pretend to have discovered TS in arcades=be pro at it
I'll always lol

Beats them both

>>47943411
>blazblue
>fresh

Same exact game as guilty gears, they were forced to change characters because they didn't belong to aksys.

Otherwise they'd have made another GG:episode 53.

Anyways, if by being fresh you mean sprite swapping, well, congratulations on being a god-tier troll, or just plain fucking stupid.

>>47943628
Wow... just wow.

>being a hypocrite
>Taking the guilty gear formula and subducting the roster=fresh?lol
>Anybody here SF3=SF4?...Anybody

I don't even need to say anything.
I bet you're a troll that try to make people irritated by acting like a mentally handicapped mongoloid.

Sorry bro, not falling for it.

>>47943582
>Although the worst of the series
>Never played EX
>SF3
>SF:DI
>SF:Movie adaptation
>SF1

Yeah you keep sucking those nuts newfag.

>>47943748
lol u mad

>>47944012
see
>>47944000
Just stop defending your animu fighters.

Funny how so many people on /v/ talk about "balance" like a most important thing when no one here has the level for tier to make any differences.

>>47943958

this

>>47944000
>Same exact game as guilty gears, they were forced to change characters because they didn't belong to aksys.

They're vastly different, you would know this if you actually played both at an at least intermediate level.

>>47943411
>So while Aksys keeps things fresh and make new series and mix things up
>GG BB character comparison.jpg

>>47944012
>I bet you're a troll that try to make people irritated by acting like a mentally handicapped mongoloid.

Yeah, this is how trolls work. You look quite new with that statement. Stop being redundant. Also take english classes whenever possible, you need them.

>>47944149
>Funny how so many people on /v/ talk about "balance" like a most important thing when no one here has the level for tier to make any differences.
POST OF THE YEAR ALL YEARS, THANK FUCKING YOU


I HATE FUCKING BALANCE/TIER ARGUMENTS GOD DAMN

To sum it up gentleman like, its like comparing your martial arts to UFC fighter speciality, IE "Fedor dominates everything! Therefore, Sambo is god tier! You used Sambo, therefore I would lose!"
"No no, YOU learned the BJJ, easily the most critical aspect of fighting! SILVA IS THE #1 RANKED FIGHTER IN THE WORLD AND HE STUDIED IT THEREFORE HE IS TOP TIER, YOU SHOULD HAVE WON!"

For those who don't actually know how to fight, bottom line is you faggots lack experience for tiers to matter. The people who have clocked in 1000+ hours in these games care about tiers. You clock in 50 and pretend you got it figured out, much like practicing one year of an MA/60 hours of practice and thinking you fight like a UFC veteran with 10,000 hours of training.
You really want to think I'm making that latter part up.
You REALLY want to.

lol'd hard at the idiots that think they know anything about BlazBlue the way they talk shit about it.

But hey, I'm not gonna bother arguing with idiots that don't even know what they're talking about.

>>47943628
U MAD CUZ CAPCOM ONLY HAS 1 FIGHTING GAME?

I play both, and I would say at the moment I'm enjoying Blazblue more, but that's most likely because I haven't had it as long.

>>47943582
>SFIV
>worst in the serie

Because saying this totally makes you like a SFII oldschool warrior, right?

SFII is only considered better for nostalgia, SFIII has parry fishing. Either way, both these games are incredibly unbalanced compared to IV. A very good trade-off for getting a bit easier throw and throw option select. It's not like you were able to tech throws effectively in II or III, anyway, so it doesn't really matter to you. Leave that shit for actual good players.

>>47943947
Seriously. It's fucking hilarious how many casuals have pledged allegiance to 3S just because SF4 did some trivial thing to make them angry. I mean, 3S is the most un-casual-friendly game I've ever played. You can't do shit without memorizing every character's safest options so that you can build meter--by whiffing normals no less, fucking dumbest mechanic I've seen in a fighter ("oh hey you tried to do a move? well I was just throwing out this random cr. MP to build my super bar and you just so happened to overlap with its last active frame, gg tho"). Not to mention the memorization involved in knowing how to parry and the fact that the game doesn't do anything to punish somebody randomly hitting forward/down, so they can guess their way to a big combo (even Soul Calibur's guard impacts showed more foresight than that ffs).

I swear to god, the /v/irgin's main aim in life is to get to be an elitist about something they don't have the first fucking idea about.

SF4 is too slow, littered with dumb shit (seriously, no parries?), a craptastically boring cast (almost all of them have a shoot move, anti-air/shoryuken move and a charge forward move).

>>47944515
you'll realize you wont touch sf4 in a long time.

muahahhaha

>>47944555
Finally, sick of these faggots pretending they're "old school" sf players by "HATAN" on 4, as if it makes them hip or something
>>47944483
>Implying there's anything to know about Blazblue worth knowing
Replace generic animu story with bald space marines and bald space marine story, no one would give a shit about the gameplay which is on par with doujin fighters that are usually freeware.
Oh wait, it'd sell millions.

>>47944662
Say what you will about 3S, but watching pros play is goddamn beautiful if you can get past Yun and his Genei Jin faggotry and Chun-Li players wildly mashing their face on the low forward button.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO7_zkU9Ax8

>>47943748
Let's compare the best and worst of each game in terms of matchups
SF3:
Chun Li- 1 4 match, 6 6s, 5 7s, 6 8s
Sean- 5 2s, 9 3s, 2 4s, 2 5s
SF4 (dan not withstanding):
Sagat- 3 5, 16 6s, 4 7s
Vega- 3 3s, 9 4s, 11 5s
>>47943947
Are you saying it's okay to decrease the speed because it doesn't have a title that denotes speed?
And Third Strike is a competitive mess. Fun characters though.

>>47943704

I love how you say SFIV is less complex than the earlier installments. It is true, but this is a comment only a top player could remotely think of making and being able to actually apply in reality in his own gaming experience. Even so, he'd have to be one hell of a top player, not even one random top player in the mass.

So yeah, the issue doesn't really touch you at all. Enjoy your new installments.

>>47944707
>Replace generic animu story with bald space marines and bald space marine story, no one would give a shit about the gameplay which is on par with doujin fighters that are usually freeware.

See? Proving my point without me having to do anything. Don't even show a speck of depth to your argument, you basically go "Ure gaem is shit hurrr".

Compelling argument indeed.

>>47944000
dont fix whats not broken or it could become SFIV hahahahah

>>47944692
Just played it yesterday, actually.

Really, this argument is pretty dumb, even by /v/ standards.

Video games are subjective, guys.

>>47943958
I agree. fighting GOTY all years

>>47944745
Oh, no doubt. I kinda got carried away and made it sound more like I had something against 3S itself, when I'm really just mad at the dudes who think it's the holy grail of competitive fightan or some shit. It's still a fun game, just not one as fair or balanced as too many scrubs make it out to be.

I love watching J's Makoto, though.

>>47944918
>have 10 friends who usually play sf4.
>let them borrow blazblue.
>9 of the 10 buy blazblue after 2 weeks.
>SF4 lastplayed 3 months ago.
>feels bitter sweet man.

im not using one is better im saying blazblue is more addicting than sf4.

and complex but that doesnt make it better.
OH YES IT DOES.

HADOOOOKANS

>>47944473

1000+ hours? The average console player has clocked more than 2k already.

And most console players should have close to no saying in tier discussions. Myself included.

Your standards are quite low, even for a casual.

>>47945052
Kuroda, Hayao and Kokujin are favorites for me.

Kuroda's such a troll on top of taking a low tier character and curbstomping some of the best players, I love it, same for Hayao, minus the troll. Kokujin are just amazing, and Dudley's my favorite.

Yes I've seen that goddamn video of Kokujin getting double perfected by J you don't need to show me it's just painful to watch

>>47945052
nahh man, but its better than 4.

why didi capcom mae that stupid move?

to sell more thanks to NOSTALGIA fags who wanted sf2 in HURR DURR 3D GRAPHIXS

>>47944872
No, thanks for proving mine by never making a fucking argument.
Mine was that people ONLY care about BlazBlue because its dipped in weeaboo goo, remove that and replace it with a different vibe/atmosphere=watch as it does nothing. That's its charm, its MO, without that, you wouldn't pay two seconds of acknowledgment. There's nothing about the cast that's memorable, there's nothing about the gameplay that's memorable, just that they're big tittied mary sue angst faggots that fit perfectly on a Shonen Sunday. there's nothing about BB that makes it better than GG in terms of gameplay or depth, yet its still hailed as a good fighter when it sold like shit. Had this been released as a freeware doujin fighter, nobody would have paid or played two shits of it.

Someone sell me their BB copy.

20 bucks

>>47945196
>completely missing the point
The math was 1000 hours on one specific fighting game (and "version") dumbass, not one thousand hours as a "gamer".
Learn to fucking read

>>1000+ hours? The average console player has clocked more than 2k already.

Lol. Assuming everybody bought sf4 day 1, that mean the "average console player" has played it about 6 hours a day every day since last february. Nice.

>>47944678
>complaining about no parries

Players who think parrying is the shit, and not 50/50 guessing (like pretty much all the top players actually admitted a long, long time ago), are the very definition of ultimate SFIII casual player.

>"Hurr, parrying is cool, I will go over the fact that it's a 0risk/infinite reward move that's completely unnatural and unlogical in any fighting game concept, I don't care about this kind of shit, I just want my game to look flashy and cool!"

And the fun thing is that they say this acting elitist as fuck.

>>47942762

I own both. I bought SFIV back in February and BlazBlue in July.

I had my expectations of BlazBlue. I had truly believed in ArcSys as a capable fighting game company. They made Guilty Gear, so I figured no wrong could have been done.

I was expecting BlazBlue to take the things that were great about GG and amplify things up a few notches or two.

Boy was I a sucker.

Here we have a game with a minuscule cast of characters and a story that is rife with so many Anime stereotypes that it's almost sad to think that someone takes BlazBlue seriously. All the deuling bishounens with the fluttering angel wings and the voluptuous femme fatale that becomes the butt of every sexual joke are the stuff that is reverently watched by those annoying die-hard Anime fans that show up to conventions in their mother's mini-van dressed up as Sephiroth or Naruto while arguing with their mother about whether to pick them up after dark or not.

That said, I would like to state that I don't hate Anime, but I try to stay away from most anime that isn't produced and directed either by Miyazaki or Mamorou Oshii.

>>47945207
Oh god, I love Kuroda's Q. Watching him constantly taunt and shove his dick at the face of J. Wong's turtley Chun was gdlk.

>>47945662

The characters, compared to their GG counterparts are lacking everything that made GG characters interesting. Gone are the days where we had references to 70's and 80's glam rock bands and the frantic and fast paced rock and roll soundtracks that sound like they were made by some mutant who possessed all the talents of Dave Mustaine and Lemmy. Now they're replaced by some poppy electro jazz fuckup and characters that are so stereotypical of Anime archetypes that the only people who will play BlazBlue and feel right at home are the people who watch, produce fan-art and shitty AMV's, and religiously defend Anime series such as Escaflowne, Excell Saga, and Love Hina.

Gameplay wise, BlazBlue's "drives", makes the game feel very gimmicky. With one touch of a button, you can sap HP from another character, freeze another character, magnetically attract another character, etc. etc. Also adding to the gimmicky gameplay is the right analog stick's ability to perform Distortion combos and Astral Finishes with a tilt in a specific direction. I affectionately call this little number, "Tilt-a-combo."

Just what were they trying to encourage with that?

Sure, those who play with stick don't have this luxary, but you'd be hard pressed to find someone not using a pad outside of an Arcade environment. I didn't the last time I laid witness to a BB tournament, which was the very last one held in the local scene because of overall lack of interest. Tekken 6 is next on the chopping block.

Now let's see if I can find something good to say about SFIV.

>>47945662

>>Here we have a game with a minuscule cast of characters and a story that is rife with so many Anime stereotypes that it's almost sad to think that someone takes BlazBlue seriously. All the deuling bishounens with the fluttering angel wings and the voluptuous femme fatale that becomes the butt of every sexual joke are the stuff that is reverently watched by those annoying die-hard Anime fans that show up to conventions in their mother's mini-van dressed up as Sephiroth or Naruto while arguing with their mother about whether to pick them up after dark or not.
Brofisting that shit, exactly my sentiments when I bought BB, though I did have fun with it and didn't find the anime cliches 100% boring.

I think this thread proves that both sides are full of faggots.

You guys play fighting game for the story? And you re playing SF?

>>47945737
>>47945662

Ooopsy, forgot mah trip.

>>47945822
DOA4's counter system is revolutionary. All other games are for kiddies since they can spam moves and you can't do anything about it.

ITT: Scrubs think they know fighting games. Don't mind me, I'll be busy playing a REAL fighting game

>>47945141

To a scrub like you, who probably can't even take advantage of 10% of SFIV's complexity, yeah, it doesn't really make it better.

Besides, it is not more complex in execution. Dialing easy combos for long is easier to memorize. SFIV's got tons of SJC, 1frame links, and other stuff that requires much, much more strict timing.

So yeah, if you talk about execution complexity, which doesn't matter much at this point, BB is much simpler.

They nerfed Rachel...
Well now I play Tsubaki, because I like her play style better.

ONLY ONE TIER HIGHER LOL

>>47945919
PS3 doesn't have online mode hahaha

I'm having fun playing BlazBlue, and having not so much fun playing SFIV.

Am I wrong to pick BlazBlue as my favorite now?

>>47945737
You obviously never cared enough to see the gameplay implication of those "gimmicks". it s ok, but dont come teaching lessons afterward.

SF4: Anime and Manga back in the 80s, when it was good.

BB: Anime and Manga today.

Might as well call it BleachBlue, Constant Tropes.

>>47946000
Lol dial-a-combo and small windows to hit a button is "execution". Lol citing sjc as a hallmark of SF. Lol thinking cr.lpX3 33p is a great combo.

>>47945919

Don't make me get all Ko' Ken on your ass.

>>47946145
>Brofist.jpg

>>47946000
Footsies arent complex. At all. They require skill, no doubt about that, but are pretty much the point 0 of complexity, especially at sf4 slow pace.

>>47945549

And that is exactly what I am talking about. It seems like it's impossible to you, as I said, confirms the fact that your standards are quite low.

I guess it's impossible to enjoy two series of a genre

>>47945737
>poppy electro jazz fuckup
I would have been on the same page with you if you called it something like a pseudo-classical pretenious nonsense. But nowhere is anything poppy except for Taokaka's theme, Nowhere is anything electro except for maybe the one of the credit themes, and nowhere is anything jazz like except for the IDK maybe the bass in Tager or Carl's theme. You can say anything you want but the music is still top notch with Guilty Gear.
And you people act as if the metal and rock references make it somehow better. It's just little jokes Daisuke put in, it's not like it makes HARDCORE. You're just as bad as weeaboos if you think that.

>>47945737

Fuck you pal, Excel Saga is good. But I agree, the other two are shit.

>>47945468
>No, thanks for proving mine by never making a fucking argument.

How can I hold a discussion with someone that knows nothing about the game? It's like arguing about which car is better when the other person doesn't know shit about cars.
I bet you haven't even played BlazBlue for more than 1h, so how could you possibly think you know *anything* about the game?

>Mine was that people ONLY care about BlazBlue because its dipped in weeaboo goo, remove that and replace it with a different vibe/atmosphere=watch as it does nothing.

Wow, way to prove how ignorant you are. People like it because of its accessability and depth, in addition to having a very varied cast, good online and robust story mode, great english voiceacting, etc.. Can you not recall how people *hated* the designs and characters? I thought Tager was one of the worsts designs ever and called him notPotemkin up until release.
But I guess you don't know this, since you show signs of knowing so utterly little.

>There's nothing about the cast that's memorable, there's nothing about the gameplay that's memorable, just that they're big tittied mary sue angst faggots that fit perfectly on a Shonen Sunday.

Again, says the one not knowing what he's talking about. Thus further proving how utterly pointless discussion is, it's like talking to a spoiled little boy.

tl;dr cool story bro

>>47946336

One can still agree that BB's music is shit.

OH WE HAVE A PIPE ORGAN AND ELECTRIC GUITAR FOR EVERYTHING IT'S LIKE WE'RE A ROCK OPERA!

seriously, like you said "pretentious pseudo-classical garbage"

>>47945567

Which is the average amount of free time you get even if you study or work, assuming you're not a basement dweller like most of /v/ is.

It is also the average amount of time the MMO player spends when he's addicted, you see.

Just because you're a guy who can't stand playing a fighter for more than 100 hours, it doesn't mean nobody other than your hero Daigo can. There are many casual gamers playing everyday a lot of hours.

>>47945919
The fuck you say?

>>47946337

Yeah, I mean seriously, the only way anyone could hate Excel Saga is if they somehow by around 5 minutes in tried to take it seriously.

Seriously some of the funniest shit I've watched in years.

>>47946145
>SF4: Anime and Manga back in the 80s, when it was good.

Uh no, SF is as dull as it gets.

What's up with all the raging bvtthurt SF fanboys? Did BlazBlue rape your mom and skullfuck your dad or something?

Have both, feels good.

I like BB and SFIV but I still think Guilty Gear is the best fighting game series I've played.

It just feels genuinely more fun to play.

>>47946550
Yep 6 hours a day, every day on a single game is just about average those days. Sure thing.

>>47946528
Only theme's that had pipe organ were Ragna vs. Jin, Jin vs. Noel, and one of the credit themes. And guilty gear pulled that too unless you also hate GG's soundtrack.

>>47946528
>One can still agree that BB's music is shit.

BWAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHHAHHAAHAHAHAAHWAAW

Kindly show me some good music then sire, can't wait to see what you pass for great music then.

>>47946506
>>I bet you haven't even played BlazBlue for more than 1h, so how could you possibly think you know *anything* about the game?
Lol assumptious prick. Probably more than you and bothered with a few hundred online matches+getting Dante achievement. I'm just fine thank you
>People like it because of its accessability
Which is virtually non existent as evident of its sales
Almost everybody in this thread minus you has agreed that BlazBlue is guilty gear without the charm, depth or appeal and is nothing but BleachBlue, if anything.

Again, love your failed arguments. Feel free to continue.

I might be a casualfag, but all I know is that BB's music blows SF's out of the water. I let some of my friends here this shit and they're all "HOLY SHIT THIS IS AWESOME WHERE DID YOU FIND THIS?".

Daisuke Ishiwatari For the Win

>>47945907
>spam moves and can't do anything about it
>bait, evade, counter-poking, invincibility-frames moves

Indeed. Thanks god DOA4 came and saved the fighting game scene.

Oh, wait.

>>47946829
>implying that regardless of what I say, you won't say it sucks because you have your panties in a bunch over an insult to your precious garbage soundtrack.

>>47946829

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3BSSNxKjDk&feature=related

>>47946152
>Lol dial-a-combo and small windows to hit a button is "execution"

Yep, that's exactly the term of execution.

Always been.

If I want to get into fighters, what's the best option to begin? I have a PS2 and PC, without arcades near.

>>47946757
I don't play Guilty Gear, but if I had to name any one series as the shining example of its genre, it'd be that. It's balanced, it's versatile, the characters are unique, the soundtrack is incredible, the art set it apart from other games of its time... It really is the whole package.

I'd play it, but like I said in an earlier post, I'm not as big a fan of combo/juggle-centric fighters. That and I could never get comfortably acquainted with the control scheme, nor did I ever really dig the whole "Dust" thing. But if I were raised on a game like Guilty Gear as opposed to Street Fighter? I'd probably be on that shit every day.

>>47947002

Heck, show me ONE bad song from either GG or BB's soundtrack. That'll really impress me

>>47946889
All Blazblue's songs kinda sound the same. I'm not a big Street Fighter fan, but even I have to admit that it has a better ost with a lot more memorable songs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbVnB8Oi_B4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJsN6oBnroE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJOIiiA4Pac&feature=related

>>47947304

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEZb63893ec

IT'S LIKE I'M ACTUALLY WATCHING ANIME!

It's wushu vs karate. One's a technical performance and the other an actual dichotomous combat.

>>47946980

>Garbadge Soundtrack

>Implying SF4's is better

Holy fucking shit I lol'd the only good fucking songs from SF4's entire soundtrack is the Volcano stage and INDESTRUCTIBLE. And even the latter got fucking annoying hearing it 1000000000000000000000000000 times

>>47946310

Not being complex execution-wise =/= not making it a complex gameplay.

Besides, footsies are something that require no execution, but infinite anticipation, strategy, spacing, match-up knowledge and opponent analyzing (the "skill part" you're talking about).

How is THIS a bad thing? Footies have always been the strong point of SF and the main reason why it's the most played fighter competitively. Execution is 5% of a fighter. Everyone spending some hours can master any SF character's combos. Applying strategy in different matchups with different players is the hard part.

Blazblue's godawful announcer is enough for SF4 to win this silly matchup.

>>47946868
>Lol assumptious prick. Probably more than you and bothered with a few hundred online matches+getting Dante achievement. I'm just fine thank you

I've played BB since the console release. I've played over 4000 matches w. a 80%+ Win ratio and I still don't consider myself to be even close to being a pro.
Playing a couple of hundred matches doesn't mean shit, you didn't even scratch the surface. The fact that you even bragged about the Dante thing is hilarious.
Who did you play then? What was some of the more complex things you did before you quit?

My point was and still remain, you know utterly nothing about the game, not nearly enough to judge its complexity and depth, nor balance should you bring that you. Yet you seem to believe you do, utterly hilarious.

>Which is virtually non existent as evident of its sales

lol? Is this a joke? No seriously?

>Almost everybody in this thread minus you has agreed that BlazBlue is guilty gear without the charm, depth or appeal and is nothing but BleachBlue, if anything.

No they don't, some did say some things but what you said they did not as a whole. BB has way more charm than GG, unless you have a raging hard-on for rock or you simply prefer the cast in GG for some reason.
The depth is basically the same, BB is merely more accessible.

This is funny by the way, haven't laughed this hard at a tool in a good loooong time, so yes I think I'll keep going.

Guys, what's the most updated Guilty Gear version atm? I tried google, but got tons of versions, lol.

>>47946980
>implying that regardless of what I say, you won't say it sucks because you have your panties in a bunch over an insult to your precious garbage soundtrack.

Wow, using your own argument against you? I would say its a first, but it isn't, not on 4chan.

>>47947578
Accent Core+ I think

>>47947417

Okay that's a low blow, that was on the Console verison only. The Arcade opening is much better

>>47947535

Have you heard Contiuum Shift's Announcer?

They made GORILLA FATE that much worse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH5cUN1u9Bk

I like both games

>>47947380
>All Blazblue's songs kinda sound the same.

I.. what?

If anyone calls this music shit... well let's just say I pity them for having such horrible taste, I really do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TScDYf3uwoQ&fmt=18

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcyiXDzFDwA&fmt=18

Blazblue player here. The tiers are simply a guideline, not the inherent law of the game. In the end its your skill and yomi games that win you more matches than the character you picked. If you know your character and the general/intermediate information of other characters you stand an incredible chance in actual play. I do admit that I like SFIV, I just can't get into it as much because its too much footsies and the pacing is slower (not that it being a bit slower is a bad thing, just not my cup of tea). Hell I play tager, I've easily clocked in over 5,000 hours on blazblue, and have been rather enjoying the newest rendition. CS fixed alot of things that were just awful before (although damn, rachel got shafted hard), and improved upon the game completely. Who knows, I might get into SSFIV because I really like how juri looks to play.

>>47947536
>BB has way more charm than GG

0/10 would rage again. And this is coming from a die-hard GG/BB fan.

Honestly, I don't like BB's LOL SUPER LONG AIR COMBOS, nor do I like simple 5 hit combos.

A combo needs equal parts of air hits, ground hits, Wallbounces, and juggles.

Most of the FAST PACED fighters of today are just "Hit a few times, knock them into the air, then do a 20 hit air combo that gets raped by scaling but looks cool"

There has to be something where you can punch a guy 3 or 4 times, knock him into the air, hit him a few more times, end with a move that wallbounces him, then juggle him a few times more.

That'd be far more satisfying.

>>47947816


What is this, I don't even

Street Fighter is okay, but I enjoy BB more.

Just lately bothered to get the arcade version leak for PC of Continuum Shift, shit's cash.

when it comes to arguing about fighting games, ya'll niggahs get me mad. Therefore i decided to sit back and see the fireworks go off.

>>47947380
>All Blazblue's songs kinda sound the same.

Wat, did you smoke something before you made that post? If you tihnk these sound the same you have serious hearing problems.

Tager's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bby132VFgVY

Tao's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVypfVkSH-s&feature=related

Rachel's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMjP11yGRuQ&feature=related

v-13's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hd0cJG8qzMA&feature=related

>>47947945
Uh, TvC?

>>47947380

So this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVypfVkSH-s

sounds like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bby132VFgVY

and this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fZOoeHFG6s

?

I don't even...

>>47947945
>super long aircombos
The only character I can think of who can do LONG aircombos in BB is tao, everyone else has like no aircomboability save for maybe 6-8 hits tops. Also if you want wallbouncan and jugglan, pick bang in CS. Bang in CS is fucking wallbounce/juggle/pull-combo-out-of-your-ass king. There are simple combos for bang that wallbounce like three times and juggle them. Also lol, wallbounce into astral combo as bang is fucking glorious.

>>47948075
It's only the scrubs who get mad. I personally couldn't care that much. I play for fun, not for some pissing contest.

>>47948134

Once again GOTY, All Years

I like both for different reasons, and I dislike both for almost exactly the same reason -- balance.

>>47948201

Hell no, Litchi's if anything's are longer than Tao's when it comes to Jugging and airtime, espiacially she gets you in a corner

>>47948201

Wallbounce and shit should be the norm, not the exception.

>>47948134
I'm liking TVC, though it still seems very air-combo reliant, not surprising, considering it's a spiritual successor to MVC2.

I don't believe in tiers among characters only tiers among players.

>>47947194

Technically SFII. Not easy, but it is the essence of mind-games. It is the game that, if you try to learn seriously, will make you understand more things than every other game could.

But your options are limited. If you intend playing on GGPO as a beginner, expect being destroyed for months, possibly years, possibly forever. Too good competition and resctricted players pool.

Guilty Gears is an option, but since it is more focused on dialing combos, it is not the best game to understand the concept of strategy of a fighter, ie, the dialing demanding will make your progress go much slower.

So, at the end of the day, I'd say go play SFIV PC. Because it has the most casuals/beginners and the biggest playerpool by far so you will be able to do at least something before months of beating. Once you learn the basics, playing other fighters is not bad.

>>47948317

If you're looking for wallbouncing action, Tager and Lambda have a decent amount of wallbouncing combos

>>47948317
>Wallbounce and shit should be the norm, not the exception.

All characters have wallbounce combos. v-13, Tager, Tao, Hakumen, Litchi, etc.

both suck, blazblue sucks less

>Import Blazblue in December
>Oh god I'm going to main Bang
>end up maining THE WHITE VOID

I fucking love Hakumen

Did school just get out or something? Blazblue fags are showing up out of the water.

>>47948259
I'm sorry to break it to you, but there will never be a good fighting game with balance. If you want unique and individual characters, you have to be ready for some to be more powerful in certain aspects than others. Its inherent in fighting games that balance is not going to be perfect. You can try to get each character as balanced with one another as you possibly can while still keeping them diverse and seperate, but you will still have some balance issues no matter what. A fighting game with perfect balance would be terribly boring, as every character would be pretty much exactly the same, and operate as such. The entire game would be nothing but mirror matches, which would be horrendously boring. The reason I like fighting games is because they try to balance so that no character is inherently more powerful than the other. However the difference in balance between characters and abilities amongst them is what makes the game fun and interesting. If it wasn't like that, I would never fucking play fighting games, they'd just be boring as shit.