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I thought both DS Tales translations weren't done yet.

>>47166391
Impossible.

But yeah, ToH is pretty good.

>>47166546
It says they finished the script. I don't know.

tales of hearts is among the best in the series. get it.

>Tales of Hearts translation patch

WHAT

>Tales of Hearts translation patch
>txt

I am disappoint.

>>47166694
If it was one of the best, then why did it sell so pooly (and on a high install base system like the DS)?

Started: July 9, 2008

Announced: July 14, 2008

Status: In-Progress (Updated January 16, 2010)

* Menu Translation: 100%
* Menu Editing: 91%
* Event Translation: 100%
* Event Editing: 90%
* Skit Translation: 100%
* Skit Editing: 100%
* Summary Translation: 100%
* Summary Editing: 100%
* NPC Translation: 100%
* NPC Editing: 100%
* Proofreading: 0%
* Audio Subtitles: 100%
* Graphics: 100%
* FMV Subtitles: 40%
* Hacking: 90%

>Translation patch
>.txt

OP you got me excited for absolutely nothing.

>>47166852
Because Tales games don't sell on non-Sony systems.

>>47167079
But didn't Tales of Symphonia sell well?

>>47167079
That's a fucking lie. Symphonia sold over a million on the GameCube. Fact is these DS games were garbage.

>>47167135
In Japan it didn't.

>>47166977

>Proofreading: 0%

That alone will take them another year.

>>47166391

.doc
.txt

Haha, oh wow

>>47167135
Best-selling Gamecube RPG, and the best-selling Tales of, if I'm not mistaken.

>>47167135

It sold like shit on the Gamecube and then was Ported to the PS2 a year later. Japan only, of course.

>>47166852
It sells as good as other DS Tales, what are you talking about?

>>47167189
It sold 320,000 in Japan. To put into perspective, people are considering 350,000 for Vesperia PS3 a 'success story'.

>>47167214
It was the best selling up until that point. Abyss is the best selling in Japan, I think.

>>47166391
FUCK. YOU.

>>47167219
>>47167214
>>47167189
I figured as much. But still what's holding Innocence and Hearts from being sent overseas besides Namco's obvious racism?

>>47167526
Yes.
Same for other games like SRW OG or other Gundam games.
It's just Namco being racist.

>>47167608
Dammit. Those games look so great too.

>>47167526
We only saw Symphonia because Nintendo handled the localization. We only saw Vesperia because Microsoft funded it. We most likely saw the PS2 Tales game localized because Sony had something to do with it (not confirmed, like the rest).

In truth, it's a Japan only game series that made it outside Japan a few times due to console manufacturers stepping up.

PS1 Destiny was the highest selling Tales game in Japan, not Symphonia.

Gamecube Symphonia's sales are as high as they are due to its English versions success.

Neither Namco or Nintendo are confirming Tales of Graces being localized. I'm still waiting on Radiant Mythology 2 on the PSP (never going to happen, sadly).

>>47167727
It's also one of the best vidya series out there... I would kill for the PS3 Vesperia, Innocence, and Hearts. Literally, kill a man. I would kill him then rape the dead body if Nintendo happened to make and release Mother 1+2+3 on the DS in Japan and here.

Well, unless Namco merges with Capcom or something and you guys might have a chance.

WHEN ARE WE GETTING SWORD OF LEGENDIA NAMCO? YOU SAID THERE WOULD BE SWORD OF LEGENDIA

>>47167877
I heard there was some issues regarding playing through a second time or something like that. Whatever it is, they should fix it before considering sending overseas.

How many of you guys have considered learning Japanese just because of Tales, Mother 3, and Tengai Makyou games? If I knew Japanese, I would move to Japan, and dump raws of anime and manga for translation groups and help translate. It would be so cool... :3

>>47168095
Learning a different language this late in your life (the time for this would have been during childhood) is too difficult for it to pay off. I'd rather just live without than go through the hassle.

>>47168095
I have maybe when I was like 16 or something. Now I'm just not motivated at moonspeak sometimes annoys me. Specifically from japanese females.

>>47167203
>That alone will take them another year.

No. The people who did the Mother 3 translation did it in only a few weeks.

>>47168207
I'm only 14. :3

Do I still have time?

>>47168095
Well, I learned some japanese to play Super robot wars games, not tales game.

And that is why I have been called a weeaboo and such.

>>47168435
Yes, you are gonna be big weeaboo, young pandawan.

>>47168435
Yes. For most of /v/ (in their 20's), it'll be difficult. A lack of real motivation is the main reason why most don't learn another language (it's not really needed for Americans like it is for others).

>>47168435
>I'm only 14

>>47168428
Yeah, but Tomato-san is a shiny golden god, and there were many more followers. I remember following that blog and F5ing every five minutes just to see new updates... the first time I saw it, when there was barely any progress and all there was on the site was enemy screenshots, and I was just so wowed and impressed by the enemy designs I knew this was going to be the best game ever. I ended up being too impatient to wait and just beat the whole game in Japanese with limited katakana knowledge and no help from any guides or FAQ's, it's a pretty easy game. When the translation was over, I was ecstatic, but I still haven't gotten around to finishing the game in English.

>>47168435
Might want to delete that comment. Global Rule #2

>If you are under the age of 18, or it is illegal for you to view the materials contained on this website, discontinue browsing immediately.

>>47168512

Oh man, I know I tried, back when I was 14.

I'm almost 21 now and I still can't understand moonrunes at all.

>Translation patch
>.txt

Jesus fucking christ OP, why not bust into a cancer clinic yelling you have a cure for cancer, then look down at the hundreds of dying small childrens faces and say "Its not getting cancer in the first place" fuck

>>47168340
Did the 2nd half of the Symphonia OVA ever get made?

>>47168435
>>47168489
>>47168512
>>47168554
Ah, derp, I just turned 15. My bad, bros. Also, I go under two trips and the other one looks like "Bacon!1shota7[...]" but it has a complicated code so when I'm not at my house I use this code. So uh, that would explain that...

I don't know moonrunes, but I'd be interested to learn the basics for vidya and possibly some manga.

What kind of characters are games and manga usually written in?

>>47167166
No, not even close.

The DS games are fucking solid, except for Tempest which is the worst Tales ever. Innocence and Hearts are both really great Tales games.

>>47168630
So you stuck of kanji or something?

Because reading higarana and katakana is piss-easy, a 5 years old child can do that.

>>47168816
>higarana
Oh boy, I fucked up.
I fucked up reaaal bad.

>>47168816

What? Oh no, I never actually tried. I kept pushing it "to the next vacations" but each time they started just wasted them around playing videogames.

This game suck ass, why waste your time?

>>47168630
I learned katakana by myself, and I know if I dedicate myself I can learn hiragana in like two weeks as well. Then, I wanna do Rosetta Stone, and then try and get formal lessons from a private instructor.

>>47168756
Jesus christ you're a faggot. I've been browsing 4chan since I was 13 or 14 (I'm now 18) and I never posted HERP I'M 14 MY TRIPCODE IS !SHOTA TOO LOL SO RANDUM XD

WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY TALES GAMES BAMCO?
WHY DON'T YOU GET OUT OF YOUR ASSES TO TRANSLATE SHIT?
NOW I HAVE TO WAIT 2 DECADES UNTIL THE LAZY FAGGOTS AT PP TRANSLATE DESTINY REMAKE
FUCK YOU WITH A RAKE, BAMCO.

>>47169032
lol bamco

Namdai and Tales fans have a mutual, hate based relationship.

This will never change.

This is why we have to jump through hoops to play anything that isn't by Team Symphonia.

>>47168931
Oh boy, you are like me then, always having a "next vacation/next free time" in mind.
Except I have learned the basic, I'm just too lazy to learn the rest.

>>47168435
>>im only 14

you're part of the problem

>>47169167

So, how did you learn?

I guess you know enough to play these Tales of games?

>>47168793
Can anyone answer this?

>>47168955
The topic came up, so I mentioned my age. I realized I was wrong, and corrected myself. The reason I mentioned my tripcode was simple: the one I'm using right now is not my common one... sorry if I came off as a faggot and if it pleases you, I'll delete my post. The last thing I wanna do is make anybody angry.

Is the Innocence translation being done by Phantasian? The guys who did ToP for the PlayStation? Weren't they also supposed to do the Destiny PS2 remake, what happened?

>>47169413
Same people, and they are still working on it.

http://www.absolutezerotranslations.com/

>>47169413
Now I feel like a dick.

Sorry. You're fine, just try not to draw attention to your age.

>>47169242
I learn at my local Japanese Learning center.
And no, learning hiragana and katanaka means you can at least speak/hear, but it's useless in playing JRPGs because JRPGs usually use a lot of kanji and some strange obscure words (from German or even Hebrew) in katakana. I was like lolwut each time I encounter those.

>>47169605

Not worth my time then, considering I pretty much hate anything japanese outside of videogames.

>>47169487
Jesus fuck, it seems like these guys, mato, Aeon, and the guys who did Persona 2 IS which I think did Policenauts too are the last good fan translators out there... this is why I must learn!
>>47169516
Hey, I completely understand the animosity towards underageb&, everyone likes to feel superior to those lower than them. But, I think people shouldn't judge solely based on age, try actually criticizing the poster for the quality of their posts, and that's easy to track when the poster is a raging tripfaggot. Yeah, I'll try not to, but at least I never start unvidyarelated posts on /v/.

>>47169693
Well, I love me some Kamen Rider and Mech animu so....

>>47169981
HOLY FUCK IF I LEARNED JAPANESE I COULD IMPORT GAME CENTER CX DVDS AND UNDERSTAND SHIT HOOOO SHIIIITTT

>>47170104
You don't need to understand japanese
you just need to understand hong kong subtitles.

Learning japanese is a pain in the ass when you're alone.
Trust me.

I've pretty much given up.
Going to give it another shot starting next month though.

>>47170339
Wait they have Asia region Engrish subtitles on the DVDs? Sweet, even though Hong Kong/Singapore English is awful. Have you ever tried reading Pokemon Special, or whatever it's called there Pokemon Adventures or some shit

Most games use a lot of simple words and phrases. It can actually help you learn to read it but I wouldn't try to adopt the same type of dialogue. I'd imagine you'd realize that anyway.

I guess it's really subjective anyway. Either you can deal with it or not.

>>47170733
Reading and understanding HK subtitles = god tier.

>>47167877
Namco has a long list of "Fuck you Americaaaaaa" going on, still waiting on Vesperia PS3, Symphonia PS2, Tales of Hearts, Tales of Grace.. God damn you Namco.

>>47170524

Japanese is piss-easy to learn, there are ten million weaboos in American alone who would get on ventrillo or skype so you could practice conversational phrases with them.

You can gain a very high level of fluency if you study hard, and watch a shitload of Japanese media without subs to rely on.

Start leeching from IRC's japTV channel. Sit in japanese chatrooms and try and pickup phrases. Post in a anime message boards "help me learn nihongo" thread.

If you want books, I'd suggest buying a few. You need to carry a small one in your pocket and try to remember something from it throughout the day.

Immersion for jap isn't fucking hard, their culture and media is all over the place.

Up until modern language classes and the internet age, the most efficient way of learning was taking something and forcing people to translate blocks of it.

Play through one of the kajillion jrpgs out there.

If you want a really good book to do what I mentioned earlier, buy Basic Japanese Sentence Structure by Naoko Chino. Fits in your pocket and is insanely packed with shit you need down pat.

You fail because you watch RAW anime and practice colors, instead of actually applying yourself and spending money on material.

>>47171051
holy shit, that is some weeaboo sensei.

>>47171051
You don't even know how I studied.
Don't assume.
And learning a new language in general is very hard.

I learned Hiragana, Katakana, some kanji and I was learning grammar.
I just couldn't get it all to stick in my head so I just kinda put it on hold.

>>47171051
This is extremely helpful and motivating, brb buying that book on Amazon for further usage. Also, would scanlating manga chapters be a good practice? Were you saying that translating blocks of text was an archaic practice that was inefficient or that it was still a fine way of learning?

>>47171051

While we're on this topic.

How useful are Rosetta Stone programs?

>>47171051
Also add

"A Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar". Excellent reference material for those having difficulty with the grammar.

Play eroge.
You'll be motivated enough to do it.
If you can concentrate on the text long enough, anyway.

>>47171326
It was all those conjugations that got me.

>>47171255
It can help with practice on reading but that's it. Don't try to talk like they do, just use it for reading and understanding practice.

>>47171487
I don't plan on learning japanese to speak, I might travel there for a little while, but I enjoy living in the United States. I would just enjoy understanding it, reading and listening.

GO TO YOUR LOCAL LIBRARY

FIND THE NON FICTION SECTION

FIND THE JAPANESE SECTION

LOL BOOKS EVERYWHERE THAT NO ONE BORROWS ;_;

>>47171255
By the way.
Let me add that while you'll be motivated at first, that drive will probably die down after a month.

After that its up to you to keep things fresh.
Which is probably what I should have done.

>>47171255

It isn't going to be the most effective method, but if you sit and work on a page, study the basic sentences from the page, and actually pay attention to the grammar usage, nouns you can remember, and other semantics of the language, yes, it can be effective. It depends on how you approach it.

Manga seems like one of the better text choices, since you can spend a good bit of time doing the things I just mentioned, and it would be easier to stare at a comic book page for 5-10 minutes a piece, than, say, a giant block of text from a book, or the same line in a jrpg.

If you want to practice better methods, the best possible way is to get a study partner. You can both work out a study path together, and practice what you both have been doing on the side together. You learn to develop a better ear by listening to demonstrative and practiced phrases, which is going to go a LONG way towards helping your overall understanding and learning.

I'm not really going to suggest specific books or guides besides the one I mentioned by Naoko Chino. The majority of those "learn japanese" text and workbooks have little more going for them than good content organization and lesson structure. The information is all out there on the internet for free.

Copying down the kana and focusing on fundamentals, and gradually increasing your fundamental abilities, will get you far in learning jap.

By the time you get what I just suggested down, you should have a much better idea of where to start studying. Thats when translating text blocks, voice chatting with others, watching raw television shows, starts to make more sense.

The only real hurdle in learning japanese is making sense of all the subtle-yet-important rules (counters, male/female grammar, etc.) and the kanji.

Start practicing kanji early. Even if it isn't much or very complicated ones, you NEED to have a good kanji base to get further.

>>47171741
Yeah a study partner seems to be the best approach.

>>47171688
Wow, you're a great help! Thanks! :3

So yeah, I guess I'll learn kana, then do Rosetta Stone as a foundation, and then take up private lessons as my family has the money because I go to public school now. I don't do anything extra besides school and if I was motivated about something educational it may excite them. I'm glad to know there are so many self-help methods out there for learning and to keep my skills sharp, I will most definitely use them. Maybe anytime I feel demotivated, I'll just play a sample of a jap only game and then get crackin' again.

わかりません。

>>47171264
Not useful at all. Avoid them.

You can find all sorts of audio references online anyway for free. I always say that if you want to be a Japanese speaking parrot, use Rosetta Stone or Pimsleur .

>>47171478
Dictionary and te form is all you need. Don't even worry about masu form since you aren't Japanese. I mean, it's still easy but you won't need it ever most likely. Of course the stem of each word needs to be known, but again that's easy. But yeah, self study can be a pain in the ass. I completely stopped a year ago up until this new year. I've decided to get back into it.

>>47171880
You have MSN?
If anything we can study together.

I need a partner to keep going.
And I've already got the basics down and can help with the early things.