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    25 KB Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)18:35 No.46031312  
    So Blazblue fans. If CT was BlazNu, then CS is gonna be BangBlue mirite?

    Glad we traded one overpowered piece of shit for another
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)18:37 No.46031433
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    >complaining about balance in an ArkSys game
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)18:43 No.46031890
    >>46031433

    What the fuck are you talking about GGAC was more balanced than most of these other shitty mainstream fighters like SFIV and KOF.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)18:49 No.46032358
    Nobody cares about shitty animu fighter #6234126573 so please stop making these stupid fucking threads
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)18:51 No.46032555
    >>46031890
    Arksys has a horrid record for balance.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)18:57 No.46033008
    >>46032555

    Oh now let's be honest now, in a fighting game's earlier iterations, like say the earlir Virtua Fighters and SF2, what game DID have excellent balance? Tell me, right now I'd like to know
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)19:00 No.46033257
    >>46032555

    GGXXAC was one of the more balanced fighters, or maybe it was just the fact there weren't top tiers all over the damn place. Sure Eddie was tops in AC, but he wasn't even the most played, partially because he was pretty fucking hard to play.

    >>46033008
    This guy has a pretty good point, it's pretty damn hard for a company on it's first try to get balance perfectly on their inital tries. But it doesn't mean they shouldn't strive for it
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)19:00 No.46033259
    >>46033008
    Let's be honest here, how many games in total has arksys made balanced? One? maybe?
    They have a reputation for poor balance overall. It's almost like balance comes by accident to them.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)19:02 No.46033341
    >>46033257
    >>46033008
    That doesn't change that ArkSys has a horrid record for making balanced games.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)19:03 No.46033455
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    Name one fighter thats balanced.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)19:04 No.46033511
    >>46033259

    Too bad those other lesser known titles pales in comparision to Guilty Gear, which before Blazblue was ArcSys's flagship series and could overtake it if they decide to create a new installment of it. And as stated before, Accent Core was pretty dang well rounded at higher levels of play.

    Going by that, you could easily say that Capcom has a shitty record for balance as well
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)19:06 No.46033635
    >>46033455

    inb4 VirtuaFighter5fags

    It doesn't matter if a fighter is balanced if it's not fucking fun in the first place.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)19:07 No.46033739
    >>46033511
    But I'm talking about Arcsys. I know when this happens immediately fingers are pointed elsewhere, but even in flagship series, arcsys consistently keeps balance as an afterthought. You are talking to someone who played Guilty Gear a lot with big players from XX.
    Balance is what every company should go for, but most fuck up due to just wanting to make a game that will sell enough without the extra time/money spent on balancing and fixing a game, but there is no excuse.
    ArcSys has a horrid record for balance, and that's the truth.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:12 No.46033923
    >>46033739

    I'm going to have to partially disagree with this. Yes, balance should be ONE of the main prospects of a fighting game, but like an earlier reply said, would a game with two identical cubes with the exact same moveset be fun to you? General accessibility and entertainment value, ie fun, should be the main thing a developer should be concerned about, and ArcSys has stated that. Now obviously I believe that balance should be the thing RIGHT after that, so basicially we have slightly differing viewpoints.


    Well one thing is, at least we're not Smash Bros' competitive scene, where 1 Character has literally won about half of all tournaments played, lol
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:27 No.46034268
    >>46033739

    I can't exactly compeltely agree with that statement. Like earlier said, it doesn't matter how balanced a game is if it's not fucking entertaining. Otherwise how else are you even going to get it to sell, however I do agree balance should be on equal terms with it.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:32 No.46034489
    >>46034268
    >>46033923

    Five bucks that this is a samefag
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:34 No.46034589
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    I recently played arcade mode on Hell with Ragna.

    Jin was managable.
    Nu was hard, but beatable

    This guy, however, and his grab attacks that take 40% OF YOUR HEALTH away every time..I nearly raged to the point of tears. I had to CONTINUE? 15+ times..
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:35 No.46034628
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    I'd rather have BANG SHISHIGAMI, HERO OF JUSTICE as top tier than the projectile whores Nu and Arakune
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:36 No.46034677
    >>46034589

    Just Hell's Fang him from range and aerial combo him to death.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:37 No.46034715
    >>46034589

    You want to know the key to beating Tager?
    A sure fire way to get through him every time?

    DON'T STAND NEXT TO HIM

    Do not run at him
    Do not try to do a wake-up combo
    Do not try to continue a combo if he block the first hit
    Do not do anything that leaves you open close to him

    Remaining on the ground while next to Tager is just asking him to grab you for REAL SOVIET DAMAGE
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:37 No.46034740
    Hakumen main here, I could care less.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:37 No.46034744
    >>46031312

    At least a good character is overpowered this time.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:37 No.46034758
    That TAGER is GIGANTIC for a reason :p
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:38 No.46034767
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    I'm going to love seeing all the Bang users be labeled faggots for using a top tier character now.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:39 No.46034843
    >>46034677
    He actually has an anti-air this time, though.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:39 No.46034848
    I still firmly believe that Tiers don't exist. They're just excuse for bad players when they lose
    >> GameBoo !mpZx7zHN/Q 01/04/10(Mon)20:39 No.46034853
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    I love bang
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:40 No.46034870
    >>46034843

    In CS?

    Shit, I've never played it so nevermind.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:40 No.46034926
    >>46034848
    that's like saying gravity doesn't exist and it's an excuse for clumsy people when they fall.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:41 No.46034934
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    Posted in another thread, but bears repeating:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ3ZNdcb8WE
    Skip to around 2:32.
    Watch.
    What the fuck.

    Goddammit Aksys, you nerf my princess into the ground, but Arakune can still do shit like this easily?
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:41 No.46034940
    >>46034848

    Nigga I don't even play fighters and you're either retarded or trolling.
    >> Xbox CCCLX 01/04/10(Mon)20:42 No.46035000
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    Don't mind me. Just being a fucking awesome cat person
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:42 No.46035016
    I've played CS and I can firmly say with Tager's new Invulnerable Anti Airs like 2C and Atomic Collider, the fact he actually has gatlings that link into his oki game, and higher overall magnetism uptime and a now invulnerable 360A that Tager can wreck some serious shit in the right hands
    >> Corvus !pp1QJ4VZwc 01/04/10(Mon)20:43 No.46035050
    >>46034870
    isnt atomic collider an anti air in CT?
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:43 No.46035072
    >>46034934
    lol'd HARD
    What was that? 8.5K?
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:43 No.46035079
    >>46034767
    So if Dan Hibiki suddenly became God tier in SSF4 I wouldn't be able to play as him despite his awesomeness?

    Some characters deserve to catch a break.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:43 No.46035085
    >>46035000

    What's funny is, Tao is actually probably A/High Tier thanks to that crazy Taunt loop

    >>46034934
    BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES
    >> Tetra !!lYkTaRWDpBS 01/04/10(Mon)20:43 No.46035088
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    >>46034934
    >151 hit combo
    >Literally over 9000 damage

    Goddamnit Arakune.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:44 No.46035097
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    I have to learn Tao's taunt combos now

    Her old stuff wont work in CS
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:45 No.46035161
    >>46035050
    A shitty one. It only works well if they're magnetized, and if they mash jabs before you grab them, they can knock you out of it.

    In CS, though, he has upper body invincibility, so it's much better. Plus 2C has gotten crazy buffed too, so its even better than AC as an anti-air in CS.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:45 No.46035172
    >>46035016
    You should see Mike Z now. Fuck.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:45 No.46035193
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    >play little sibling
    >teach the basics
    >they pick arakune
    >I pick ragna
    >rebel 1
    >action
    >BEEEEEEEEEEESSSS
    >OHGOD THEY ARE IN MY ASSS
    >ARRUUGGGGHHHHHHHHH ARRRHHHHHHHHHh
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:46 No.46035216
    It'll be nice as a Nu player to not catch a bunch of shit online now that's she's about average, and I can prove that I beat them simply because I'm better than them.
    THEN AGAIN I am dealing with XBL users who are the whiniest little shits in existance
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:46 No.46035250
    >>46035000

    >Don't mind me. Just being a fucking annoying cat person

    Now if you had posted Jubei or Kokonoe, then your original statement would have been applicable.
    >> Tetra !!lYkTaRWDpBS 01/04/10(Mon)20:46 No.46035251
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    >>46035172
    I pulled off my first IB 720 the other day. Felt good.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:47 No.46035278
    CT = BlazNu
    CS = HakuBlue, or HazaBlue for the first weeks.

    DSi is getting Super Smash Bros Blazblue. wut
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:47 No.46035285
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    >>46035088
    !00% meter needed and it's burstable

    With bursting not putting you in danger state I'd say that's kinda crappy
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:47 No.46035298
    >>46035050

    But doing Collider for guessing games can be extremely punishable by players by simply sliding under that shit.

    Unless this Arcade Hell literally can predict your movements then yeah... Collider is ass.
    >> Corvus !pp1QJ4VZwc 01/04/10(Mon)20:47 No.46035312
    >>46035161
    >upper body invincibility

    well fuck moving across the screen in 30 frames
    and fuck putting a rocket fist on his GIGANTIC TAGER.

    now i cant just stay in the air and rape him.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:47 No.46035314
    >>46035251

    I saw that vid of the whiffed 720 into another 720 last night, I shat bricks
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:50 No.46035430
    >>46035285
    If you don't have a burst though (like that Hakumen), then you're royally fucked.

    And he didn't even really have to tag on the two Distortions on the end, he'd done enough damage just with bee loops. My guess is that he just wanted to be a cock.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:50 No.46035440
    >>46033635
    >Name one game that's balanced
    >Except this one because I'm bad at it, so therefore it sucks

    HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:50 No.46035460
    >>46035285
    >!00% meter needed and it's burstable
    Then how did he only have 50% when he used it?
    >> Tetra !!lYkTaRWDpBS 01/04/10(Mon)20:51 No.46035488
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    >>46035285
    Arakune main I take it? The point is, Arakune is already too powerful in CT, but to make up for the lack of curse uptime in CS, they buffed his curse-uptime damage and control to ridiculous levels. You do realize that without a burst available (very possible in CS in later rounds) that that combo would outright kill 3 characters?
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:51 No.46035500
    >>46035278

    HakuBlue? Isn't Hakumen basicially one of the least played characters in general.

    Heck, as a matter of fact, Outside of the big 3 with Him, Souji, and the other that slips my mind, I didn't exactly remember all too many Arakunes either
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:52 No.46035535
    >>46035314
    Link?
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:52 No.46035538
    >>46035278

    >HazaBlue

    This.

    Hell, half of /v/ already plans to main him already. I assume he'll be the new Tager/Bang/Hakumen, meaning every /v/ room will be full of Hazama mirror matches.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:52 No.46035560
    >>46034934

    >Arakune stalled like a fag to win
    >Hakumen still neo-top tier, and would have won if Arakune didn't SFIV that Hakumen.

    >Kissthahero.jpg
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:54 No.46035641
    I am totally okay with Bang become top tier.

    Justice always prevail!
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:54 No.46035651
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    >>46035500
    Everyone plays Hakumen in CS. EVERYONE.

    >>46035560
    >implying 50% of CS matches don't end in timeouts
    Seriously guys, stop going HURR HURR ARAKUNE ACTUALLY SUCKS HE JUST TURTLED HIM, because THAT'S WHAT EVERY CHARACTER IN THE FUCKING GAME DOES ALL THE TIME.
    >> Tetra !!lYkTaRWDpBS 01/04/10(Mon)20:54 No.46035670
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    >>46035460
    Also this. He only used the other 50% because he wanted an extra distortion at the end, and if you notice, he STARTED the combo with about 35% meter, so over the course of it, he gained very likely over 70%.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:55 No.46035707
    Last I checked the "official" tiers had Ragna, Bang, and Litchi as the top three in CS.

    Has this changed drastically?
    >> bbfag 01/04/10(Mon)20:56 No.46035750
    >>46035488
    as an arakune main, i can say without a doubt the combo is great on it's own and the supers at the end are frills. he only did it because he suspected that even prorated to one damage per hit, the sheer amount of hits would wittle hakumen down. normally there is no reason to end it with supers.

    even without the supers, that combo is incredibly simple, even compared to his old shit, and it does an obscene amount of damage for zero meter. also, it seems like the bugs start it so it combos from anything.

    thanks arksys.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:57 No.46035795
    >>46035538

    Well, Noel got changed, and depending on how hard/easy/moderately annoying it is to get my medium level skill back with her, I'll be abandoning ship and probably Hazafagging too.

    Since I hate most the casts' playability outside of Arakune(Too technical, but I adore it), Tager(Bandwagon newbie grappler, frowned), Noel (LOL DRIVESPAM, frowned, but I use her.), Jin (Don't just hate him. Loathe him. gets special mention), and SwordspamscrubNu(I only spam swords as Nu. If I use her, it's a huge joke and troll IF I manage to win.)

    Hazama's something different. I'm in it for the speed aspect, not the Hellsing The Third: Smooth Criminal edition.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:57 No.46035806
    >>46035707

    That's about right, Litchi and Bang are considered interchangable, but it seems set that Ragna is behind those two for sure.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:58 No.46035877
    Whos gonna be Overused as fuck so i can not be that person.

    uniquefag here.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:59 No.46035901
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    Oh lawd.

    Hazama will become the new Jin, instead of LOL ICECAR it's going to be Snake? Snake? SNNNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!!!!
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    >>46035707

    ...wut
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)20:59 No.46035914
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    >Watch Rachel vs Litchi video.
    >Litchi has better zoning, better rushdown, does like 3 times as much damage with each combo as Rachel.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:00 No.46035936
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    >>46035877
    Hazama.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:00 No.46035965
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    I played Bang on CT, and will play him in CS too. Haters gonna hate
    >> bbfag 01/04/10(Mon)21:00 No.46035966
    in fact, i can already tell what the combo is.

    (anything ever) C+B+A bugs, jump 236[C], ]C[ D bug, [Jump 6B 236C D bug]x2, and then either supers or another ender.

    easy as fuck.
    >> Tetra !!lYkTaRWDpBS 01/04/10(Mon)21:00 No.46035972
    >>46035877
    Pretty much the characters you already saw a lot of. Ragna, Bang, Jin, Hakumen, Tager, and Lambda. The only difference is, 3 of those are now top tier and one is now mid tier.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:03 No.46036111
    >>46035877

    Hmmm, that's a toughie, like said, Hazama, Jin's still gonna be overused as fuck. Tager and Ragna were up there as well. Bang is going to get abused like no other thanks to his top tier status now and his GAR character. And of course Noel Drive spammers and BEEEEEEEEEES Megee Arakune

    Basicially, that leaves Carl, Taokaka, Litchi, Lambda (Nu), Tsubaki, and Rachel (RIP)
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:03 No.46036122
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    >>46035914

    Rachel's doomed.

    Situational bonus: Translation to this image:

    >I can't believe I lost to Bang...

    Hah! Fitting.
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    >>46036111
    I'll go taokaka then I suppose
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:06 No.46036262
    >>46035651

    Must be your area then, the Arcade I went to down in Houston had quite a few Tagers and Ragnas, I only saw about 3 Hakumens in total
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:09 No.46036394
    >>46035651

    Call me when you see a 100% turtling Taokaka. Haven't seen one YET.
    >> Tetra !!lYkTaRWDpBS 01/04/10(Mon)21:10 No.46036467
    >>46036394
    He probably means running away, not turtling. Bang is the master. Hit FRKZ and just run away forever.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:10 No.46036492
    >>46036394
    Taokaka turtles with the D button.

    What's that, 15s remaining in the match? DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD TIME OVER. TAOKAKA WIN.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:13 No.46036675
    >>46036467
    Oh please don't bring back memories of Bangs going FRKZ and running away for the rest of the match as a Hakumen player
    >> Tetra !!lYkTaRWDpBS 01/04/10(Mon)21:15 No.46036780
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    >>46036675
    I main Hakumen and my roommate mains Bang. Don't even talk to me about that shit.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:15 No.46036814
    Carl-Litchi-Hakumen player here, anything I should know about Carl in regard to Continuum Shift?
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    >>46036492
    I've seen Tao turtle in the air with her triple jump

    Everyone forgets she can do that
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    >>46036814
    Clap loop drains Nirvanas meter faster
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:17 No.46036935
    >>46036814
    No more infinite loop and you no longer essentially forfeit the match when Nirvana's meter runs out?
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:18 No.46037008
    >>46036814

    Carl lost his clap loop but he gained so many other options in return like his new projectile that can be thrown from even offscreen like Nirvana. Basicially he isn't a gimmick character anymore, he's probably around mid-tier because he's actually that well rounded
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:20 No.46037080
    >>46036935

    That's not true at all, Nirvana regenerates MUCH faster in CS to counterbalance the fact she dies MUCH quicker. It was made to stop the clap loop in general
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:20 No.46037092
    >>46037008

    Awesome. I had massive trouble from people basically killing Nirvana and ignoring me. Looks like I'll be using him a bit more than Litchi.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:23 No.46037269
    can someone post the tager whiff video please?
    >> AtheismIsGay !SGn2Wwr9CY!!m4PvsqlvKb/ 01/04/10(Mon)21:23 No.46037280
    WTF is all this talk about them nerfing Tao and Rachel? Someone please explain what BS they're doing in CS. Last I saw, they gave Rachel cool new moves and lowered Nus bullshit.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:23 No.46037306
    >>46037080
    That's what I meant. In CT it took so long for Nirvana to come back to life you were basically fucked if her meter ran out.
    >> Tetra !!lYkTaRWDpBS 01/04/10(Mon)21:24 No.46037391
    >>46037280
    >Last I saw, they gave Rachel cool new moves and lowered Nus bullshit.

    The latter is true, the former is not.

    Also, Tao wasn't nerfed, just changed. If anything she was buffed.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:26 No.46037525
    >>46037280

    If by cool new moves you mean lulsy but shitty Distortion Drive, then sure. Rachel is really freakin bad in CS, close to Tager in CT bad.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:27 No.46037556
    >>46037391
    What Exactly did they do to rachel then?

    I heard no more frog.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:27 No.46037580
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    BangBlue? More like HakuBlue. Also, scrub Hazamas will be everywhere.

    >>46035097
    Fuck you and your fucking taunt loop. It is rape on both the eyes and the ears, and a complete match ruiner.

    >>46035193
    you fucking suck lol
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:28 No.46037687
    >>46037580
    yeah ;_;
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:29 No.46037752
    >>46037556
    She still has the frog, you just need to use wind to get it to move now. Most of the shit that was good about her to begin with was nerfed pretty hard, perhaps most notably her j.2C which now can no longer be canceled on block, making it useless for rushing down.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:30 No.46037820
    >>46037556

    No more frog is just the beginning of it. She now basicially has no mixup game, no Oki game, Wind recharges slower. Pumpkin is much weaker, damage across the board lowered, she's just so amazingly bad I cannot fathom how this was not adressed in the loketests. I mean sure in CT she was ridiculous but even I don't think she deserved......this.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:31 No.46037885
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    Tager main here, only had the game for a week, haven't touched online.

    Beat it on hell, only continued 4 times on Jin(x2), Taokaka and Arakune.

    Felt GIGANTIC TAGER man.
    >> 水風船『☆』商品番号【一㊤㊦】…税込〈百円FM〉~鬱々。 !Ns1OOYenFM 01/04/10(Mon)21:32 No.46037972
    >>46037580
    Definitely hope I'll enjoy the play style of Hazama and Tsubaki. I'll definitely play as Lamda since I'm a Nu main. Arakune and Hakumen as well.
    >> Tetra !!lYkTaRWDpBS 01/04/10(Mon)21:33 No.46038003
    >>46037820
    >>46037752
    She still has the frog AND it still moves on its own. You can ALSO move it with wind. That was actually one of the few buffs she got. You should have seen her in earlier loketests. At one point they took out the ability for the frog to activate while the enemy was getting hit, eliminating your ability to extend combos with it. They put that back in though.
    >> AtheismIsGay(* !GjGic/AaXA 01/04/10(Mon)21:33 No.46038051
    a lot of talk about arakune being too powerful. i wouldnt say he is way too powerful, but he is at the top definitely. those videos you guys see of him doing nasty shit with all the bugs is really fucking tough to pull off. they deserve to have that combo, that takes a lot of practice.

    >>46037525
    >>46037556
    WAT, thats terrible!
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:35 No.46038177
    >>46038051
    My ass, like stated earlier, that Arakune combo is easy as shit.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:35 No.46038207
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    >>46038051
    >they deserve to have that combo, that takes a lot of practice.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:39 No.46038466
    >>46036826
    sssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhh, don't tell :P
    >> AtheismIsGay !IRfzvGZBiI 01/04/10(Mon)21:40 No.46038541
    >>46038177
    maybe with those new bugs but pulling off something like that in CT isnt easy at all, i main Arakune but i havent played CS. also notice how slow and defensive he constantly has to be with Arakune. i think you all are judging my poor Arakune unfairly
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:41 No.46038621
    Is hakumen still boring as shit to play against? any significant changes to him that allow him to actually play instead of turtle and poke all game long?
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:41 No.46038642
    Blockblue: Continuous Shit is absolutely terrible.

    All they did was fuck the balance again, even moreso than before, but differently so mental midgets can't properly comprehend the broken.

    Rachel now needs to rely on time outs to win. Her strategy is timing people out.

    This is actually a viable strategy because Blockblue still has the worst throws ever and the game is simultaneously faster and slower with overall significantly less damage.

    And Bang is now stupidly broken. It's just no one cares because LOL BANG IS SO AWESOME LULZ.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:41 No.46038655
    >>46037820
    so the loketests are all done or something? and they have not mentioned how shit they made rachel yet?
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:43 No.46038786
    >>46038621

    Hakumen has the same damage as before but now is twice as fast and has lightspeed pokes. I think he's A tier.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:44 No.46038884
    >>46038655

    Loketests over? The games been out for a solid 2 months and has been in major arcades for about 1
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:45 No.46038951
    >>46038642

    And you're one of the few dozens of people who've played it? you lucky dog
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:46 No.46038967
    >>46038884

    *In the U.S for 1 month
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:46 No.46038975
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    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:46 No.46038987
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    >>46038786

    as a non-turtle hakumen, I'm OK with this

    unless your definition of 'turtle' is 'uses counters'
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:47 No.46039031
    >>46037391
    All she did was lose stuff when she was dead centre in the table. Removing all CH's into 6C except 2C, the universal combo and removing knockdown from 236B... Though unintentionally she now has an easy to enter infinite.

    All they had to do was remove the shit parts of CT (there's 3 of them: arakune, nu and rachel) then add 2 more characters. They have managed to make a game five times shitter. Way to go. I'm not even sure if I want another GG anymore.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:48 No.46039125
    >>46038951

    Yeah, I have. It's worse than CT.

    CT's balance wasn't that bad outside of specific characters. Bang is considered third worst in CT but he was nowhere near Hakumen and Tager level shit tier and could roll with the others just fine 9 out of 10 times, and even had one of the better matchups against Nu. Rachel just needed a few decisive nerfs. The only characters who needed complete retooling were Carl, Arakune, and to a certain extent Tager and Nu.

    But noooo, they had to fucking go to town on everyone like a bunch of mad surgeons and ended up raping the balance the other way. Shit sucks.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:48 No.46039148
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    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:50 No.46039228
    so when is the game being released on consoles? any word if it will be DLC for those who have the first one?
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:50 No.46039239
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    From the very few players I see still playing Rachel, their strategy is basically limited to this:

    >stand far away from the other character
    >throw bat poles, pumpkins and frogs like there's no tomorrow
    >gain a life lead
    >use wind to run away from the other player until time runs out

    In every single Rachel victory I've seen in CS, it's been through time out. I haven't seen her new DD at all, because it's a festering pile of shit.

    tl;dr, fuck you Aksys
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:50 No.46039271
    CT:
    >I really like Rachels original design

    CS:
    >lol bang so manly
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:52 No.46039442
    All Bang needed was to gain meter faster or get infinite nails and then something like instant startup on his umbrella to make it more useful. Now he is super, super broken.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:54 No.46039555
    >>46039469

    2gb patches and expansions are not unheard of.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:54 No.46039558
    >>46039228

    It's definately not going to be DLC, but I also bet it's not going to be fully priced either a la Super Street Fighter 4. If it follows the same pattern as CT, then it should see a release in about June, which sucks dick, because Evo is in THE SAME DAMN MONTH
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:55 No.46039604
    >Fighting game thread.
    >As usual, full of shit players who seem to think that all high tier characters are game breaking.
    Oh goodie.

    >>46039442
    >Implying infinite nails wouldn't be the most broken thing ever.
    No thanks. HURR D NAILS is already annoying without him being able to use it an unlimited number of times.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:55 No.46039657
    >>46039228

    This is a brand new game, get it through your heads.

    All stages getting reworked, entirely new HUD and GUI, brand new arcade mode and new voice tracks for every character, and tons of other shit are really gonna fit in a DLC pack?
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:56 No.46039719
    >>46035488

    I want to eat that.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:57 No.46039786
    >>46039604
    I know rite?

    Some of you need to come down here to Cali and play the likes of Gouryus and Mike Z in actual real time instead of Online and see just hwo different the game is
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:57 No.46039795
    >>46039604

    Yeah, and getting a 1 frame startup super in a game where even jumps are 4-5 frames, having all his hitboxes improved while he still remains one of the more annoying characters to consistently combo, being able to do similar damage meterlessly to damage he had to use meter to do in CT in a game with lowered damage all around, etc. is really balanced.

    And what did he lose, exactly? Oh, yeah, the super that everyone comboed into anyway no longer has startup invincibility. Whoop de fucking doo.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:57 No.46039800
    >>46039657
    listen faggot, i dont give a shit about what you feel in your little balls that the game will be. last i heard the game was being released in europe as a two cd set with the original Calamity Trigger and a second disc to upgrade it to Continuum Shift.

    im not asking you for your fucking feelings faggot. im asking if they have made any mention of it, the developers/publishers THEMSELVES.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:59 No.46039895
    >>46039558
    Evo?
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:59 No.46039919
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    >>46039031
    Apparently Daisuke and dudes haven't even really been working on fighting games since #Reload. Just throw BB in the pile of stupid shit ASW did with Guilty Gear like Isuka and Accent Core (no, fuck you, Sidewinder loop and just frame like a mo'fo Potemkin are not good ideas)
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)21:59 No.46039951
    >>46039800
    umad.jpg
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:00 No.46039974
    >>46039795

    Actually, I think Daifunka still has Startup invincibility >_> so lol.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:00 No.46040018
    >>46039800
    lol, that's not happening.

    All Europe is getting is a shitty "upgrade" on CT with new costume colors and Unlimited characters. Enjoy waiting an extra year for CS after the US has already got it. Again.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:01 No.46040070
    >>46039786

    Oh my, a little Cali scene faggot who thinks that because he lives in the gayest state in the union that he's somehow top tier.

    First off it's not "gouryus." Second, Goryus was the one who managed to show just how bullshit Nu can be in CT with fullscreen 5000-6000 damage combos and Mike Z, while arguably the most creative Tager in the game, also loses frequently to a lot of characters played by people of even merely average skill just because Tager is so shit. He is literally the poster boy for a guy held back by his shitty character.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:02 No.46040100
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    >>46039795
    >a 1 frame startup super
    >Implying a command grab super with more than 1 frame startup could possibly be useful in any way.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:02 No.46040170
    >>46039604
    >Fighting game thread.
    >Shit player who thinks he's good because he beat some players online trolls entire thread with his ego.
    Oh goodie.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:03 No.46040201
    >>46039919

    Is this a joke? You'd rather have Sol's dustloops compared to his relatively tame in comparision sidewinder loops?
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:04 No.46040275
    >>46040100
    Tager's grab is 5+0 frames start up.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:05 No.46040329
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    >>46038642

    In this thread, people crying their eyes out over a game most of them haven't even played, and has been out for a short period of time.

    Welcome to fighters.

    I intend to continue maining who i did in CT.

    No doubt there will be Rachael heros repping the low tier there as well.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:08 No.46040524
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    >>46040201
    They're only tame because AC is tame. The loop itself is equally retarded, it's just in a game where shit does less damage.

    >>46040100
    >>46040275
    That. Of course, Genesic Tager Buster -is- complete and utter shit, but may it be noted it's fucking bullshit that the ninja has the instant command grab and the throw guy does not.

    Also, now that you have a super command grab, can you be any more Ibuki Bang?
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:08 No.46040526
    >>46040329

    I don't know if you know this, but CS is pretty lame and you are not some hero for maining a low tier character. In fact a lot of Rachel players, even the ones who play Rachel because they like her and not just to tierwhore, are furious because her rushdown was all but completely eliminated, now turning her into an actual turtle character who relies even more on boring ass projectile zoning.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:09 No.46040600
    >>46040070

    Wow, god forbid that I make a typo, so sorry. And I'm sorry, outside of Cali and Houston, Texas, the U.S' BB scene is pretty weak or unheard of.

    Second, Goryus wasn't even the poster boy for that shit, you should have seen SBO (which by the way, Goryus was eliminated in the first round of). That shit was prominent for a LOOOOONG time.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:12 No.46040785
    someone post a video of a good rachel fight in CS i wana see how bad she is
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:13 No.46040846
    >>46040524

    Well derp de derp, isn't that the bloody point?
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:14 No.46040946
    Has there been any Mike Z footage since Continuum Shift was released?
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:15 No.46041010
    >>46040600

    Just because you don't fucking hear about it in California doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That's what I hate about you Cali fighting fags, you think that just because your state hosts Evo it's the Mecca of fighting and that nothing can possibly happen outside of it except in the mystical moon land of Japan. I hate that shit and it makes me disrespect California a little more every time I see it. If you want to prove me wrong go ahead but don't go "hurr look at all the little kids" like you need to be from Cali to have an opinion.

    And Goryus is the one who brought Nu's bullshit to America, because that is how it trickles down here: the Americans get shit from the Japanese and then it trickles down to the masses from a few elite tourneyfags.

    >>46040524

    Genesic Emerald Tager Buster is indeed shit, partly because of the long startup, partly because it has to be buffered, partly because it's yet another ground move when all of Tager's shit is already ground, partly because Tager has no real anti air, and partly because all he gained in CS didn't really fix any of this and just gave him a powerful but risky 50-50 okizeme game that, like everything Tager had in CT, gets less useful the higher up you go.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:18 No.46041247
    >>46041010

    We all know what this means.

    Aerial Pot Busters.

    Make it happen
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:19 No.46041317
    >>46040946
    Check ArcadeInfinity's YouTube channel

    >>46039800
    They have said absolutely nothing, Europe is not getting some definitive version of BlazBlue, and CS has been out for only two months. You'd realize this if you didn't have some unfounded sense of entitlement for being a eurofag.

    p.s. u mad
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:20 No.46041383
    >>46041010

    Isn't Evo hosted in Vegas anyway?
    >> AtheismIsGay !SGn2Wwr9CY!!m4PvsqlvKb/ 01/04/10(Mon)22:21 No.46041422
    http://www.youtube.com/user/knuxrouge#p/u/14/-Ndz-SB_eg0 i think you guys are full of shit, this is usually the case here on /v/. i find that you guys talk so much shit months and months before games are released and then it never ends up being true, or grossly exaggerated. this has been the case for years now. i think you guys are all just a bunch of retards and frankly i never come to /v/ for this exact reason.

    while i dont doubt there have been changes, here is a video of rachel with all her moves in tact, frog moving forward (and being pushed forward faster with wind, which can be devastating), etc etc.

    /v/ really is /b/ and 4chan really is just a site for trolls and little kids
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:22 No.46041466
    >>46041247

    Potemkin was fucking beast.

    I remember when Blazblue came out and fags were saying Tager was better than Potemkin. Maybe in creativity, that's why I started playing Tager, because of his magnet gimmick. But Potemkin is fucking incredible while Tager sucks.

    Potemkin could combo into and from his command throws, had completely viable 70-100% combos, gained meter just by walking forward, had Slide Head which either knocked down or was scary enough on it's own to give you intimidation ability. Could Flick into massive damage combos, could not be approached safely from ground or air because he could counter you ten different ways if you tried, and had super armor everywhere.

    Tager? Tager is just... shit.

    It's my personal theory that Potemkin's sheer level of awesome scares ASW, and their fear of creating another monster like Potemkin is what prevents them from giving Tager more than the bare minimum of tools.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:23 No.46041531
    >>46041422

    >/v/ really is /b/ and 4chan really is just a site for trolls and little kids

    >tripfag named "AtheismisGay"
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:23 No.46041570
    Skye.....from Dustloop right? You come to 4Chan? O_o.

    This is Afrikaan88, you've probably never seen my name on Dustloop since I created it only 3 weeks ago and never really post
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:23 No.46041577
    there are no balanced fighters

    the only balanced fighter is one where all the characters are the same
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:25 No.46041656
    >>46041577
    Eh, VF is as close as an asymmetrical game can get to it.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:26 No.46041738
    >>46040526
    this. i chose rachel way before tiers were even released. love her to death but it's pisses me off that they took away her rush downs. i don't want to play SF4.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:26 No.46041746
    >>46041577

    Perfectly balanced? Maybe. It's most definately possible for there to be balance in a game but just how close it can get to perfect is the question
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:30 No.46042038
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    stupid sexy bang
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:30 No.46042041
    The funny thing is that CT was pretty balanced aside from a few notable exceptions. It would not have taken that much work to rebalance it, honestly.

    And then they just made a different, equally broken game.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:35 No.46042421
    >>46042041
    It happens. See: The Halo series.

    Fuck yeah, Halo 2 is going to be awesome now that it has online!
    >oh lol massive retarded auto-aim, fucked up weapon spawns, DUAL WIELDAN, completely different game in general
    Fuck yeah, Halo 3 is going to fix the massive retarded auto-aim and dual wielding and has a new weapon spawn system!
    >oh lol the guns are so fucking inaccurate it doesn't matter, dropping bullets because of packet loss like a motherfucker, delayed direction changes rape movement
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:42 No.46042872
    >>46042421
    so true
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:47 No.46043268
    This thread iz lacking in Nu pr0nz, make it happen
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:49 No.46043435
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    >> Helst !edREaasjpk 01/04/10(Mon)22:50 No.46043466
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    >complaining about a HERO OF JUSTICE being overpowered.

    YOU SIR ARE AN ENEMY OF JUSTICE.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:51 No.46043555
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    Rock Paper Scissors is the most balanced fighting game ever even through the bullshit in my picture.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:51 No.46043572
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    >>46043435
    i know. i want moar. moar!
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:51 No.46043577
    >>46043466

    It sickens me when it takes so long for this to be said
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:54 No.46043817
    I don't know what you fags are fighting about. Litchi is looking to better than Bang.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)22:59 No.46044113
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    Can someone help a bro out and link a place to download Bang's sweet ass install theme? I downloaded the BB OST the other day and it didn't have it on it, and I can't seem to find it anywhere. Thanks!
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)23:05 No.46044505
    >>46044113
    It's called beat a nail with your hammer.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)23:14 No.46045124
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    bumpan thread
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)23:15 No.46045134
    >>46035278

    Wait, I can't believe I didn't see this post earlier, fucking really?
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)23:16 No.46045205
    >>46043817

    Yeah but she has boobs so she's excused from the discussion :p
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)23:16 No.46045232
    >people bitch about how Bang's top tier and Tager's still shit
    >watch some videos
    >see a Bang in the loser's finals get beaten by a Ragna
    >See MikeZ win the tourney overall as Tager

    Well, /v/'s retarded. As if this wasn't already common knowledge.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)23:17 No.46045286
    >>46045205

    Yeah no one cares if Boobie lady is top tier because that just means more boobies for everyone :OOO
    >> PhantomLight !foNL5ycv6E 01/04/10(Mon)23:18 No.46045384
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    >people complaining about Arc Systems fighting games, which are usually more balanced than most anything else on the market
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)23:21 No.46045616
    >>46045232

    >Anecdotal evidence of yourself watching one tournament on Youtube, using examples form the Loser's Finals and using Mike Z as an example

    You are retarded.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)23:22 No.46045690
    >>46045384

    Nigga even Tekken 6 was more balanced than CT. And CS.
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)23:28 No.46046102
    Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)23:28 No.46046105
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    >>46044113

    I've been searching, and I keep finding crap. :(
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)23:37 No.46046621
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    I promise you ALL of CS's meta is not established in this short time frame its out.

    Your tears are delicious though
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)23:41 No.46046942
    FUCK YOU BLAZBLUE. FUCK YOU IN YOUR ASSHOLE. i wanted to go to sleep 3 fucking hours ago. fuck you /v/...i dont blame you as much as i blame blazblue.



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