tru dat

Your a faget.

>>45329427

I agree anon.

Liberty City was well done, and I hope they decide to re-make Vice City with such detail.

Vice City was better.

>Anyone else agree with me? Why?

I don't because I'm a cool mature adult and you're a kid who's looking into games too much.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I've countless Pokemon and TF2 threads to fill with pointless one-liners.

Well spoken. But nigga u gay with these big words n' shit.

FUCKING HAMSTERS:THE MUSICAL
I always lol at that comercial

I don't have GTA IV so I can't relate, Sorry.

No.

It gets no love and respect because it takes all of the best parts of the game (the crazy Scarface-like over the top bits and pieces) and does away with them for almost no reason other than HURDURR GRIMDARK.

Saints Row 2 basically did the exact same game satire-wise but with worse graphics and crazy-ass gameplay and it's more enjoyable for it.

The whole game can be seen a semi-successful parody of American consumer culture.

>Some NPC asks Niko to kill a bunch of guys
>"Oh well, I need money!"
>Currently have $500,000 in bank account

Yes. All the big American titties that America has really puts a downer on me.

I agree with you. Because you're fucking right.

Also, I avoided spoilers. I chose my ending. I got Roman killed. And it made me feel pretty shitty.

Not many games since then have done the same.

Every thing you said op is completely true. Unfortunatly you have to understand that the masses where expecting a game to top San Andreas or saints row.
You have to admit though, the game definitly losses steam around the end.

agreed, i still liked SA better but 4 was pretty good. BUT I WANT TO BE A GANSTA ASS NIGGA

>>45329427
Ok, first off, satire of American culture is nothing new or interesting. Oh wow, the conservative politician was gay all along, who would have fancied that? Oh, gee, the American dream is a false idea, my mind was just blown.

Only a fool complements every century but this, and every culture but his own. The GTA IV satire is over the top and cliched to hell, and quite frankly, is so blatant in it's message that the humor kinda dies, it's basically HURR DURR AMERICA SUCKS. Which would be fine if the game was fun, but no, the game isn't fun. It's a sad state of affairs when I have more options and more ability to do crazy shit in Saint's Row Two than in GTA IV.

TLDR: Satire of American culture is nothing new. A shitty game doesn't become a good game simply because it tries to have a "deep" cynical message to it.

>>45329693

I've played through GTAIV's story about 4 times since its release. I will play through it many more times. And never, and I mean NEVER, will I pick that ending.

Yea.

Mostly I liked the theme to Niko's story which was the death of the American Dream.

I kinda wish the game wouldn't have given you an option to choose between roman and kate. Roman personifies the dream so it would've been more dramatic (as your more attached to this character) and it would've been symbolic.

Also Pegorini has no beef with you up to this point and Dimitri makes a better final boss.

>>45329624
SR 2 was the biggest piece of shit game ive ever played besides E.T.
deriously SR 1 was good but 2 had worse graphics AND gameplay than the original

The whole game is not a satire, just the radio stations and billboards. And they have been in every game since 3.

To say that GTA4 as a whole is a satire isn't right.

>>45329786
SAINTS row 2 sucked my dick

LIBERTY CITY CUNTS

>>45329786
The way the topic is presented is the impressive thing, especially through the eyes of characters that should have very little to do with American culture.
Gta managed to convey these messages as well as deliver a very strong character driven plot, and great gameplay.

You know why? because GTA4 try to become serious,if you look at previous series theres humor atleast(jetpack,dildo,lance etc)

To be honest,GTA4 doesnt have any memoriable radio station compare to GTA3,Vice City and San Andreas.

SA > VC > III > IV

I think am going to have to agree, on a serious note it is quite frightening but there is nothing anyone can do about it, that' just how people are. From the looks of it it seems to get worse.

I love GTAIV as much as III and that's saying a lot because GTAIII was the best and only GTA that I seemed to enjoy. But good words anon.

OP is a time traveler with nostalgia goggles

I think most people are missing the point, also SA wasn't that good, III still holds that spot.

>>45330026

Oh please, that whole 'serious' shit is just a veil created by /v/. It's quite humorous, but so many people just wanted to hate it because it's popular.

The game is a great game and a good commentary. Most of the GTA games are like this

>>45330061
SA>4>VC>3

>>45330143
lolwat

umm GTA3 and San Andreas are better and the radio (and soundtracks) is much much much better.

>>45329693

This.

Made me sad that I would never see Roman again, Or that his son would never have a father.

[spoilers]HELLO COUSIN, DO YOU WANT TO GO BOWLING?[/spoilers]

People weren't aware of this?

>>45330302

You mean his daughter?

>>45329693

Fucking same. Thought I was helping Roman by getting him money for his wedding and new life...I honestly felt bad at the end of the story.

[spoilers]i eat shit[spoilers]

>Help a guy spy on his wife
>"Well this dude is kind of paranoid, but whatever"
>Listening in reveals the wife is a level-headed person scared for her life because her husband is a freak who thinks she's cheating on him with her psychiatrist
>Vow to be done with the situation, get paid
>Find the same guy later in the game
>Help him dispose of his wife's dead body in a car
>Be reminded of the fact that you allowed this to happen as her bloodied, slaughtered remains sit in the rear view window of the car

Feels terrible man

>>45330422
At least you didn't kill her

OP here: I think GTA 3 was good, but I haven't played it since I was way underageB&... It seemed to try and flesh out the plot of Scarface more than anything, and Vice City even more so.

San Andreas is one of my favorites, but that might be because it had a somewhat nostalgic feel to it, being a 90's kid and all...

If you even go on the computer and surf the web in GTA IV, you'll find a new level of detail you haven't seen before. I feel like I can play it and say, "Yeah, I can kind of see this stuff happening".

On another note, the DLCs for GTA IV really bring it to life, as you look at everything from a different prespective, rather than just Niko's. It adds a whole different way of seeing things when the plots are connected, too.

>>45330422

Oh god, I remember this.

>Find out he killed his wife.
>Get in the car.
>Reverse twenty feet.
>Plow into the guy at 100 MPH.
>Never complete the mission.

Fuck that asshole.

>>45330422

This was in 4?

>>45330422

The third time you meet him, he gets ran over by a fancy sports carand drops all the money he originally paid you the first two times.

BONE APP A TEAT, MAH FUCKUUUUH

NIGGA U GOT DAT IRON STOMACH, MAH FUCKUUUUUUUH

>>45330422

I shot him when I found out he killed his wife

I didn't stop firing at his body until I realized I wasted half of my stockpiled ammo

>>45330528

>Jeff, or Jeff the Cuckold (?-2008) in the credits, is a random character in Grand Theft Auto IV encountered in northern Algonquin, near North Holland. Niko Bellic encounters the erratically-behaving man standing across the street from his apartment, ranting and raving about how he suspects his wife of infidelity. Jeff asks Niko to follow his wife and her male friend and to take pictures of them so he can confirm her treachery. Niko does so, but in the course of which overhears his exasperated wife complaining about how her husband doesn't trust her to have purely platonic male friends, and so Niko mentions to the increasingly erratic Jeff that he doesn't think the picture necessarily proves her guilt.

>Sometime later, Jeff calls Niko to meet him in an underground parking lot. As it turns out, Niko's attempts to calm him have failed, and the insane man has brutally murdered his wife in a jealous rage, and wants her body and his car dumped in the Humboldt River. The angry and exasperated Niko's task is made all the more difficult by the fact Jeff's wife's bloody body is clearly seen in the car, leading to the police chasing him as he makes his way to Northwood.

>>45329858
>death of the American Dream

Oh gee it's not like The Great Gatsby did this over 80 years ago or anything

People actually think GTA4 is some kind of really good satire?

You guys are fucking retarded. The entire game was like a terrible episode of Saturday Night Live that was finally allowed to have a TV-MA rating.

>>45330795

Well I know what side mission I am not taking part in

>>45330489
Yeah i tried to make an effort to go to the cyber cafe as often as i could. They really do put effort into that part. You'd see news articles about missions you were previously involved in, giving you a pretty intresting insight into the media's point of view and stuff.
Also i loked the subtle smails between niko and his mum. They were a nice way of indirectly revealing info about characters pasts.

I thought most people didn't think like that. kudos OP

>>45330833
Postmodernism asswipe

VC > III/SA > IV

All of them have done it, VC did it but the state of affairs in the 80s as SA did it relating to the "Gangstas" of the 90s and was a subtle tribute to NWA. GTAIII was more modern, it had a great semi-melancholic atmosphere about it. If you were old enough when it came out you understood the subtle references and such a lot more.

Problem with IV is it got rid of a lot of cool stuff like the Rampages, Gun rewards at hide outs, haircuts and the like. It just felt too linear and story/graphics orientated.

>>45330061
III>sa>vc>IV

Best GTA protagonist or best GTA protagonist?

>>45330712
I wish that was a legitimate choice you could have made.

Instead: you are wrong & YOU FAIL!!!

>>45329427
All GTA games were like this, at least since GTA III

>>45329624
GTA IV simply had a more serious story because that's what people like. Really, the only people who don't like a serious storyline are you guys here on /v/. Also, if you want more over-the-top crazy ass stuff, get the DLC for 360.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cMmNBrCCqw

GTA IV's problem was that it just wasn't as damn fun as the other games were. Having MORE:
unbreakable trees
unbreakable bus stops
and FEWER long straightaways means that it's next to fucking impossible to build up any speed.

Besides that, they took out the stats systems from the gta III series, which sucks dick. It removes the rpg element from the gameplay.

>>45331193
Thats bullshit. u are wrong.

coming up with a thousand slightly different ways of saying "(conservative) AMERICA SUCKS LOL" is not satire, it is not new, it is not clever.

>>45331002
Pretentious bullshit, douchebag

>>45331184
Everyone i knew at school who owned a modern console bought this game. None of them liked it after 3 days.

>>45330833
>Look at me I graduated high-school!

No one gives a shit about the Great Gatsby

OLD SPORT

>>45331303

If you don't occasionally remind the public that their society has faults, they form an unwarranted sense of self-perfection.

>>45331099

You got some competition there, Sonny.

>>45330833

>implying Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas didn't do it better, more recently, and succeeded in being wildly more entertaining

Tommy > Niko > Claude > CJ.

>>45329427

The humor was great, but that was really the only thing the game had going for it considering every other aspect with the exception of graphics was a step down from San Andreas.

I really liked the serious, more subtle way this GTA went this time around. Don't get me wrong, I love a good 80's chainsaw chase, jetpacks, dildos, and hovercrafts, but I like how the game doesn't go too over-the-top with the crimes you pull off. For some reason it makes me feel like I'm just another small story in this city thriving on corruption and crime.

>>45331590

>Claude>CJ
>implying that Claude can be considered a character

Yeah man, I was enraged at having to play as a nigger too.

>Satire
>Modern times

Why would you bring up the Great Gatsby?

>>45331719

This. I seriously can't think of a single superior thing other than the graphics or the physics engine. Well maybe the radio stations, I thought the ones in SA where shit.

>>45329579
>>45329496
>>45329493

I'm gonna guess: samefag.

.>>45329624

WHAT are you TALKING about?

DAMN did you just troll me.

>>45331967
BOUNCE FM AND CSR WERE AWESOME YOU TAKE THAT BACK

The game also takes commercialism and fucks it right in the ass, with the occasional silly pun.

>>45331779
His quietness was something that went well with the whole melancholic theme and kind of turned into a joke. It also went well with his loyalty that all the GTA chars have which ultimately lead to them being backstabbed.

I didn't like playing a nigger at first but I loved the game so much I got past it. There's so much to do on GTA:SA, shame they got rid of most of it on IV.

Saints Row 2 had a lot more to play around with that GTAIV, admittedly it wasn't as well polished as IV but if you liked San Andreas without being a nigger (Or you can if you really want) then I suggest SR2.

>people still saying SR2 is better than GTA4

Anyone that thinks SR2 is anything more than a cheesy, poorly done mess trying to get in on the GTA cash cow is a goddamn moron, and I'd tell them that to their face. If you want to bitch about not being able to play dress-up as much and not being able to pimp your ride, you are the exact kind of brainless idiot that SR2 was looking for in a target audience.

>>45332048
You mean JnR

>>45331744

Too over the top? What the fuck are you talking about? Did you honestly play through the game? Ramping a dirt bike into a helicopter, secret government agencies that magically keep Nico out of prison, your girlfriend turns out to be a FBI operative watching you just on the off chance you'll come in contact with some drug dealer; the list goes fucking on.

Oh GTA4 was certainly more serious than it's predecessors. But it was only serious enough to suck all the charm out of the GTA world. I honestly felt like Saint's Row 2 was a more worthy successor to the GTA franchise than GTA4 was.

GTA4 < GTA: San Andreas

>>45332245
>I honestly felt like Saint's Row 2 was a more worthy successor to the GTA franchise than GTA4 was.

GTA IV polished off a lot of the smaller things and took some of the regular game mechanics out. I think that is why there is such a mixed opinion on it. Think about it; you will fly out of your windshield if you crash without a seatbelt on, but you can no longer enhance your stats RPG style. I like to see developers go in different directions, but stats don't seem to be very GTA.

>>45332211

Mature games for mature gamers like yourself? Eh faggot?

>>45332487
>I have no argument
>Inject meme

>>45330024
>characters that should have very little to do with American culture.

>implying immigrants / refugees have little impact on American culture

Are you fucking serious?

>>45332487
No, I'm just not a faggot who enjoys games that are on comparable levels as monster truck shows and Date Movie.

>>45331967
I disagree,the K-Rose are my favourite of all time and i remember kept listening without getting bored,the song is so good i decided to google for it even.
When i play GTA4 well...NONE that memoriable,i only like one and thats from russia radio station.

GTAIV has a good narrative and stuff, but it did break away from the campy mindless fun the previous GTA titles provided

Pissed people off bro

THE JOURNEY MOTHERFUCKER. That was the best fucking radio station, even though it only played like, 2 songs.

>>45329427
No.

Just no.

GTAIV is shit.

Combat was horrible.

Graphics were ok up close, but everything gets fucking fuzzy and pixelated from afar.

Story sucked.

I never laughed once at the channels in GTAIV.

The TV shows were decent.

The online also sucked.

I would give this game 6/10, but I give it a 7/10 just because the time it took to make the city.

>>45332881
GTA4 was like some kind of awkward mix of campy mindless GTA and GRIM REALISM LOL

>>45332747


Oh and I guess GTA4's story was any better. With the plot holes, the sudden changes in personality, the fact Nico seemingly has no attachment to the game outside of cutscenes, the fact Nico said one thing than immediately does another.

Oh and complaining that a game has extra features that are completely oppositional and likable to others is akin to bitching about a restaurant carrying fish if you don't like fish.

>>45333022

GTAIV had only one real plot hole, its the scene where Niko kidnaps the chick. Aside from that he was surprisingly solid. Really the game was just too fucking long for its own good.

The Episodes fixes these problems and have much better narratives.

I didn't have a problem with GTA IV. I LOVED it, even with the stuff they took out. Almost all I did for about a year was play free mode, which I still conside to be one of the best things in the game, especially on TBOGT. I have no respect for Saints Row 2, the aiming is shit, the handling on cars and bikes is fucking horrible, and the online multiplayer isn't good news. How am I supposed to enjoy a game whose simplest things were done badly?

To be honest, I felt almost over saturated by GTA4's features. In GTA 3, VC and SA the only things you could really do were either missions, side missions, messing around in sandbox or radio. It was enough to keep you occupied and had some variety. In GTA4 though you have missions, side missions, side side missions, dating, NICO HOW ABOUT WE GO BOWLING, tv, radio, the internet, and hell of a lot of characters.

This really shouldn't be a bad thing... but I just found it a lot harder to care for the characters because there was just so much stuff going on with so many people... And at the same time It was like I felt bad for going on the main missions, because there was 30 hours of side stuff that I could be doing... GTA IV just felt like it was trying to be a lot of different games at once.

>>45333231
Because it's "original" and "quirky". Haven't you caught on yet? /v/ doesn't like anything serious. If it's not shot in technicolor and wacky, they spout the "mature games for mature gamers like myself" line.

Michael Cera is basically /v/.

[spolier] EXCEPT MICHAEL CERA ACTUALLY GETS THE OCCASIONAL GIRL IF IT'S SCRIPTED ]/spoiler]

>>45333231


OP here, TBOGT is probably the best DLC ever. Reminded me of San Andreas a lot, too. The ending was really nice too.

>>45333225

And the diamonds; "Oh 3 million dollars fell in a garbage truck, lets give up."

The fact Nico and Patty's sister are deeply in love, yeah you can argue they aren't, but Nico takes her loss just as hard as he does Roman's so yeah.

Or how Nico murders 10 people or so in the Lost and never experiences any retaliation, hell they work together like best buddies later over selling the aforementioned diamonds.

And those are just the holes off the top of my head.

>>45333533

I'd like to play tbogt, but with my xbox dead and out of warranty I fear I never will. Has anyone heard any chance of it being released for PC or something down the road.