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    95 KB Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:09 No.44810520  
    *The whole game is completely linear until halfway through [approximately 20 hours].
    *There are hardly any towns.
    *The party is always fixed. The whole game just repeats the movie-battle sequence over and over [In fact the progression is closer to movie-run-battle-run-movie-boss-movie-run-battle…].
    *There are rather a lot of movies.
    *Moving around is like a long marathon.
    *The whole game system is just a clone of FF10.
    *You can’t flee battles [You can’t avoid most battles either as there is no sneaking past enemies, including weak ones].
    *Your party is completely healed after each battle.
    *If the main character in your party dies it is game over [There are only ever 3 characters in battle, often less, and often fixed].
    *The best tactic is almost always endlessly attacking. There is next to no strategy or skill involved.
    *The summons’ transformation scenes are a joke [i.e. Odin turning into a horse].
    *The story is rubbish… [Spoilers omitted, but complaints centre on Snow’s constant and cringe inducing insistence that he is a hero and will “protect” whatever it is the antagonists are menacing this time]
    *Shopping is only done at “online” shops on save points, with no proper shops to be found.
    *However, this doesn’t matter as you hardly ever get any money [and you can never buy anything more powerful than what you already looted].
    *There have been next to no changes from the demo.
    *The status screen displays no real information.
    *There are only 8 items usable in combat [For that matter, there are hardly any weapons or accessories, and the “crafting” system mostly consists of spending drops to upgrade their 2 stats].
    *There are no levels.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:12 No.44810664
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    so final fantasy being shitty?

    who woulda guessed
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:14 No.44810781
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    dont you dare talk about my ff13 that way
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:14 No.44810796
    >>44810664

    Source on that delightful picture?
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:14 No.44810797
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    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:15 No.44810838
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    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:15 No.44810845
    square enix can do know wrong dont be a faggot
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:16 No.44810904
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    >The party is always fixed

    canceling preorder
    >> Glacier 12/19/09(Sat)18:16 No.44810916
    Source or not true, OP.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:16 No.44810924
    NO GAEMZ
    only interactive movies
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:18 No.44810976
    >>44810838

    That's the same picture cropped.

    >:(
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:18 No.44811002
    OP is a troll.

    go here
    >>44809472
    >>44809472
    >>44809472
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:19 No.44811035
    That's what you get for bashing FF12.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:19 No.44811066
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    It's shit, right?
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:20 No.44811097
    >>44810796
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:20 No.44811100
    At least the story seems to be

    >The story is rubbish

    Oh well fuck this game.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:21 No.44811156
    >>44811066

    It's shit
    >> Myelinated Neuron Stew !oximFKQup6 12/19/09(Sat)18:21 No.44811175
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    >>44811035
    Amen

    Fangirls got exactly what they wanted with FFXIII and it was shit.

    Don't mind me, i'll be playing Glorious FFT and FFXII: IZJS instead.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:22 No.44811214
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    >>44811066
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:22 No.44811217
    >*The whole game is completely linear until halfway through [approximately 20 hours].
    >40 hours long rpg
    thats it ? i read somewhere that it would be 80 hours long
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:23 No.44811254
    >Snow’s constant and cringe inducing insistence that he is a hero and will “protect” whatever it is the antagonists are menacing this time
    So Snow is Tidus?
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:25 No.44811348
    guys this just in
    OP played the 360 version
    and it was the demo
    and it took him 20 hours

    so yeah, no need to worry
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:25 No.44811365
    >>44810796
    >>44810796
    >>44810796
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    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:26 No.44811440
    LOL PS3 still has no gaems LOL
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:27 No.44811469
    IMIIINIOIRIII

    >>44811217
    They lied to you
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    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:27 No.44811471
    I'm playing it for the story line anyways.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:27 No.44811481
    Well who didn't see this coming? but of course knowing Square-Enix, their not gonna change their strategy since the Japanese gamers love their stories more than gameplay
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:28 No.44811506
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    >>44811471
    >Final Fantasy
    >I'm playing it for the story line
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:29 No.44811537
    >>44811348
    too bad thats the ps3 criticism from 2chan, not op's opinions
    >> raltese !7VARROT7Ms 12/19/09(Sat)18:29 No.44811543
    Should've noted you copied and pasted rom sankaku.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:29 No.44811554
    source for you

    http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/12/20/why-final-fantasy-xiii-is-a-bad-game/
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:29 No.44811583
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    I M I I I N I O I R I I I

    >>44811469
    I forgot my avatar!
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    > You have said it, but you have not understood.
    (Jesus of Nazareth)
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:30 No.44811615
    >>44811506
    Is there anything else I should play it for?
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:30 No.44811627
    >>44810664
    /r/ ing the entire thing.
    HINATAAAAAAAA
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:31 No.44811657
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    >NO LEVELING
    >FINAL FANTASY
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:31 No.44811670
    >>44811615
    >Implying it's worth playing at all.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:32 No.44811724
    >*There are hardly any towns.
    >*The whole game system is just a clone of FF10.
    >*You can’t flee battles
    >*Your party is completely healed after each battle.
    >*If the main character in your party dies it is game over.
    >*There are no levels.

    Well shit...
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:33 No.44811739
    >>44811506
    most japanese gamers play it for the story line.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:34 No.44811769
    >>44811739
    Then Japanese gamers are fucking retarded.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:34 No.44811772
    >>44811583
    Ha ha noob learn2tripfag
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:34 No.44811806
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    I M I I I N I O I R I I I

    I'm just disappointed by the fact that Saszh's son and Serah both live at the end. Well, at least someone from the main cast died.
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    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:34 No.44811809
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    >playing a game for the storyline
    >> raltese !7VARROT7Ms 12/19/09(Sat)18:35 No.44811846
    >>44811670
    Older FFs were good for storyline.

    But then, you're either a troll or extremist when it comes to something related to the FF series, so no need to discuss it further!
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:35 No.44811868
    how is this different from any other final fantasy?
    >> Myelinated Neuron Stew !oximFKQup6 12/19/09(Sat)18:36 No.44811890
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    >>44811739
    The storyline looks like complete shit as well.

    Pic related as it is what Square is doing to it's fan base since merging with enix, and the Ultimate goal for Nomura.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:36 No.44811891
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    I M I I I N I O I R I I I

    >>44811772
    Silly you, I'm not a tripfag!
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    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:36 No.44811905
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    >>44811846
    >FF
    >good story
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:36 No.44811906
    >>44811846
    And is this an older FF?

    Final Fantasy hasn't had a decent plot since Tactics.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:37 No.44811946
    >>44811890
    The "story line" looks like its exactly what it's always been since Final Fantasy 7.

    And I'm ok with this.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:37 No.44811957
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    Oops, forgot my avatar.
    >> Myelinated Neuron Stew !oximFKQup6 12/19/09(Sat)18:38 No.44812019
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    >>44811946
    Thanks for emphasizing my point.
    >> raltese !7VARROT7Ms 12/19/09(Sat)18:38 No.44812024
    >>44811906
    >And is this an older FF?

    Of course not. Please don't mistake my defense of the past good FFs as residual support of this shit. I've been railing against FF13 for months now.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:39 No.44812042
    >>44811891
    Wow could you make your obesity and virginity any more obvious?
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:39 No.44812054
    Who cares, Versus is the one real gamers are looking forward to.

    >implying real gamers play Final Fantasy
    >implying PS3 has games
    >> King Snork !IR7ogMhC0s 12/19/09(Sat)18:39 No.44812072
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    >>44811806
    What the hell are you doing?

    And this game,wow, Square really messed the franchise but how stupid could they have been?
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:40 No.44812083
    >>44811806
    what the fuck is this? someone namefagging without a name? Just more shit I have to add into my filter
    >> Corvus !pp1QJ4VZwc 12/19/09(Sat)18:40 No.44812086
    so, FFXIII confirmed for the FF version of MGS?

    FFXII has nogameplay
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:40 No.44812088
    Heh well this game looks like complete shi-
    >*There are no levels.

    WOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
    >> Token !!ncUHFztPA0/ 12/19/09(Sat)18:40 No.44812094
    >>44811348
    There is no 360 version in Japan.
    But I'm pretty sure all the shitstorming is coming from xbros that would like to destroy the game before it becomes evident that the 360 version is pure shit. That way they can say they never wanted it and nobody should.
    Good tactics.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:40 No.44812114
    >>44811891

    Yes you are.But I forgive you.Because you are Minorin :3
    >> The Cool Man !!5snFA5Bl5V1 12/19/09(Sat)18:40 No.44812132
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    Pic related, it's my avatar.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:41 No.44812144
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    >The whole game is completely linear until halfway through
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:41 No.44812162
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    >>44812094

    or the game just isn't that good, and faggots like you can't accept it.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:41 No.44812166
    the people that made the good FF games left square ages ago
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:41 No.44812172
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    I M I I I N I O I R I I I
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    >>44812083
    How does one filter me?

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    > You have said it, but you have not understood.
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    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:42 No.44812186
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    third thread of this exact copypasta this past hour.
    >> Corvus !pp1QJ4VZwc 12/19/09(Sat)18:42 No.44812213
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    >>44811891
    >>44811806
    >>44811583
    >>44811469
    >tripfagging without a trip
    HOW IN THE FUCK...?
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:42 No.44812215
    I've been saying FF13 is just FF7 and FF10 mixed together for years. After seeing how linear it is and how the game has "meteor and holy" again, I can't help but fucking laugh.

    What's worse is they tacked on what is basically the Persona 3 battle system except faster, which was the worst thing about that game.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:43 No.44812251
    >*The best tactic is almost always endlessly attacking. There is next to no strategy or skill involved.

    I wish I had a reaction image to use for this.
    >> Token !!ncUHFztPA0/ 12/19/09(Sat)18:43 No.44812277
    >>44812054
    This is true. I just wish we knew more about the game. All we have is 3 minutes of prerendered video some pictures and a cutscene of talking. I want gameplay footage.
    >> Myelinated Neuron Stew !oximFKQup6 12/19/09(Sat)18:44 No.44812303
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    >>44812215
    persona 3's battle system was better in that you couldn't spam one button over and over the whole game, you actually had to change Personas and spam weakness moves.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:45 No.44812342
    jesus christ. how fucking hard is it to follow the same formula as 6-9? with maybe the battle system from x-2 everyonr knows those were the best in the series
    >> raltese !7VARROT7Ms 12/19/09(Sat)18:45 No.44812390
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    >>44812172
    By entering "people who choke on millions of dicks" to the namefield.

    >>44812215
    The dev team made no effort to conceal that their goal in making this game was to piggyback off what was popular about FF7 and try to change it in certain ways, in hopes sales would skyrocket from the subconscious mental association with the most popular game in the series.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:46 No.44812402
    >>44811891
    Professor Layton would like a word with you, sigfag.
    >> Myelinated Neuron Stew !oximFKQup6 12/19/09(Sat)18:46 No.44812423
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    >>44812054
    FFXIII is going to be shit, since it's Normua's love child.

    FFXIV is really the only real final fantasy game coming out anytime soon. it has yoshida doing the designs, no nomura at all.
    >> Token !!ncUHFztPA0/ 12/19/09(Sat)18:47 No.44812457
    >>44812162
    Meh. FFX was my last final fantasy I played and enjoyed ( never played XI or XII). X-2 was pure shit but I wasn't shitting all over the internet with outrage because its final fantasy. The game survives on its name alone not the quality. Even with all this "uproar" it will still be the best selling game in Japan for months as well as in America.
    No amount of damage control will change that.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:47 No.44812483
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    I M I I I N I O I R I I I
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    Don't mind me, just testing a few things out.

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    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:48 No.44812522
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    >Final Fantasy
    >linear

    well hurp de durp
    >> Seqi 12/19/09(Sat)18:48 No.44812543
    >>44812483
    >ONLY 351 POSTS
    HUEHUEHUEHUE
    >> THE ♥ HEART !!VJeYccKw4r0 12/19/09(Sat)18:48 No.44812544
    >>44812215
    >Persona 3 battle system but faster

    Holy shit, if this is true then I'm definitely buying this game.
    >> King Snork !IR7ogMhC0s 12/19/09(Sat)18:48 No.44812554
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    >>44812483
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:49 No.44812573
    Final Fantasy XV shall be back to medieval times, just like FF9 was!
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:49 No.44812611
    >>44812483
    Don't mind me, I'm just going to report your sorry nigger ass.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:49 No.44812624
    FF started going downhill ever since they started using 3d and got rid of fixed camera angles for environments.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:49 No.44812628
    THE LAST REMNANT DID IT BETTER!THE LAST REMNANT DID IT BETTER!THE LAST REMNANT DID IT BETTER!THE LAST REMNANT DID IT BETTER!THE LAST REMNANT DID IT BETTER!THE LAST REMNANT DID IT BETTER!THE LAST REMNANT DID IT BETTER!THE LAST REMNANT DID IT BETTER!THE LAST REMNANT DID IT BETTER!THE LAST REMNANT DID IT BETTER!THE LAST REMNANT DID IT BETTER!THE LAST REMNANT DID IT BETTER!THE LAST REMNANT DID IT BETTER!THE LAST REMNANT DID IT BETTER!THE LAST REMNANT DID IT BETTER!THE LAST REMNANT DID IT BETTER!THE LAST REMNANT DID IT BETTER!THE LAST REMNANT DID IT BETTER!THE LAST REMNANT DID IT BETTER!THE LAST REMNANT DID IT BETTER!THE LAST REMNANT DID IT BETTER!THE LAST REMNANT DID IT BETTER!
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:49 No.44812635
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    >>44812554
    >>44812543
    Did I do something wrong?

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    >> OSM/THE LAUGHING MAN 12/19/09(Sat)18:50 No.44812643
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    jesus fuck this sounds awful
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:50 No.44812650
    >>44812483
    pretty simple. put your signature faggotry and such in the comment field of the filter.

    enjoy your filter'd, you pathetic fat virgin piece of shit.
    >> raltese !7VARROT7Ms 12/19/09(Sat)18:50 No.44812664
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    >>44812573
    More likely, it'll be more shit like this OR more shit that Square-Enix thinks will sell more copies of the product. The company really doesn't care about its history or roots aside from the ability to make money off of it.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:50 No.44812671
    >>44812573
    NO!
    It will be like handegg superbowl 43, with 4TH PERSON PERSPECTIVE GAMEPLAY, and control like hitman with ATBs! and there will be cannons!
    >> Grahf !2U3uFiBmwg 12/19/09(Sat)18:50 No.44812672
    I remember a thread I saw on 2ch where one of the moonland posters said it was "A disappointment on par with being struck with an atom bomb."

    Is this accurate?
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:50 No.44812676
    >>44812483
    what in the hell are you doing
    >> King Snork !IR7ogMhC0s 12/19/09(Sat)18:50 No.44812677
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    >>44812635
    No, just weird.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:50 No.44812682
    >>44812483
    Is it allowed to report people like these?
    >> Corvus !pp1QJ4VZwc 12/19/09(Sat)18:52 No.44812754
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    >>44812635
    yes your putting avatar faggotry and signature faggotry in an imageboard
    WITHOUT A TRIP, WHAT THE FUCK MAN
    PUT A TRIP IN AND YOU MIGHT BE DISRESPECTED A LITTLE LESS, LIKE ME
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:52 No.44812762
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    >>44812650
    Awww, you don't have to ignore me! I'm a nice person.

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    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:52 No.44812775
    final fantasy has been shit after 6
    >> Myelinated Neuron Stew !oximFKQup6 12/19/09(Sat)18:53 No.44812786
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    >>44812457
    Personally, XII is the best final fantasy since Tactics, it's the only one that tried some innovation, and I admit it has some flaws, the biggest being the Gambit system being to complex for the difficulty of the mobs in the game, if the difficulty was ramped up it might've forced more micromanagement with units like DO:A.

    FFXII:IZJS makes the game far far better though, since it removes the Everyone as a Redmage bullshit that plagues all recent FFs.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:53 No.44812796
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    >>44811806
    >>44811891
    >>44812172
    >>44812483
    >>44812635
    I'm laughing so hard.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:53 No.44812808
    >>44810520
    At least the battle theme is awesome.... ;_;
    >> Corvus !pp1QJ4VZwc 12/19/09(Sat)18:53 No.44812811
    >>44812423
    >yoshida doing artwork
    >nobuo doing soundtrack
    FUCKING SOLD IM BUYING 60
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:54 No.44812841
    >>44812682
    Yes. It's an obvious attempt at trolling, which is against the rules on all boards except /b/.
    >> Takkun !!Z0Sn1c2HUDp 12/19/09(Sat)18:54 No.44812842
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    >>44812677
    Why aren't you @ /naa/ anymore?
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:54 No.44812849
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    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:54 No.44812862
    >>44812762

    10/10

    This is some amazing Troll-fu.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:55 No.44812869
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    >*The party is always fixed.
    While I'm probably in the minority here, I don't see this as a bad thing. I hate having a bunch of characters but can only use half of them. Then I have to go back and level the ones I didn't use for the inevitable "Ok guys let's split up"

    >*You can’t flee battles
    Rarely used, I'm sure. If the game was less linear, it'd probably be needed.

    >*Your party is completely healed after each battle.
    If that includes mp, that's not a bad thing.

    >*If the main character in your party dies it is game over
    Fucking stupid. Pic related.

    *The best tactic is almost always endlessly attacking. There is next to no strategy or skill involved.
    Welcome to every JRPG. Also, I suspect this means you don't regain mp after a fight.

    >Shopping/money
    Yea that's bad

    >*There are only 8 items usable in combat
    Guessing all the healing items are % based now?
    >> King Snork !IR7ogMhC0s 12/19/09(Sat)18:55 No.44812873
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    I think so, maybe.
    >> TropM !FGENGARhd. 12/19/09(Sat)18:55 No.44812876
    >>44812762
    >Post count not going up with each new post

    You might be forgetten to change somthing, bub
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:55 No.44812897
    sounds like a good game. I hate rpgs that give me too much choice, i always get confused on what I'm supposed to do. A perfect game for a casual video game player such as myself.
    >> King Snork !IR7ogMhC0s 12/19/09(Sat)18:56 No.44812941
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    >>44812842
    I'll be on later, maybe?
    Why you miss me?
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:57 No.44812966
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    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:57 No.44812990
    Need to add.

    *Dying results in the player restarting right in front of the enmy that defeated them with all items etc before the encounter began
    *38 bluray, 30 gb is cutscenes/movies, 8 gb is everything else
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:57 No.44813004
    >>44812966
    Needs more "Location".
    >> raltese !7VARROT7Ms 12/19/09(Sat)18:58 No.44813031
    >>44812869
    The issue with not being able to flee battles is a matter of choice. Sometimes people get to a point and think "fuck this, I've fought long enough, I'd like to move forward in the story," or they're trying to farm a certain type of monster to get a certain item. This rips the choice out of the player's hands and forces them to endure battles they want nothing to do with. Imagine having to fight the Flans on the moon in FF4 every single time they attack you.

    >>44812876
    Shh, don't tell it, it might lose its power and turn to dust.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)18:59 No.44813071
    I don't see a problem, from OP's description it's almost identical to FF7 and everyone loves that, plus 7 was only 20 hours long anyway. And there was no dialogue in the cutscenes, instead there was tons of textbox textbox textbox textbox. I don't get it; why are people complaining? To be fair though I've never really liked the FF series, haven't even played all of them, and the only one I thought was great, was 12, which apparently people hate, so what do I know, you're all mental.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:00 No.44813166
    >>44812672
    well theyd be the ones to know OOOOOOH LOL
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:00 No.44813181
    >*The whole game is completely linear until halfway through [approximately 20 hours].
    FF isn't meant to be linear, it's not fucking TES
    >*There are hardly any towns.
    What's your point? Towns are always the shittiest aspect of FF games. Again, this isn't TES, you can't go pick up quests and shit from elven tavern owners.
    >*The party is always fixed. The whole game just repeats the movie-battle sequence over and over [In fact the progression is closer to movie-run-battle-run-movie-boss-movie-run-battle…].
    Like every FF...
    >*There are rather a lot of movies.
    Like every FF, and the cutscenes are renowned for being high quality
    >*Moving around is like a long marathon.
    Lolwut
    >*The whole game system is just a clone of FF10.
    FF10 had one of the best systems. The Sphere Grid added a lot of much needed replayability and dropping the ATB system made it a strategic rather than tactical game.
    >*You can’t flee battles
    That does suck.
    >*Your party is completely healed after each battle.
    Not complaining if battles are made more difficult to compensate.
    >*If the main character in your party dies it is game over
    Sounds good to me, especially in conjunction with your previous point.
    >*The best tactic is almost always endlessly attacking. There is next to no strategy or skill involved.
    [citation needed]
    >> Myelinated Neuron Stew !oximFKQup6 12/19/09(Sat)19:01 No.44813204
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    >*Dying results in the player restarting right in front of the enmy that defeated them with all items etc before the encounter began

    This game gets worse every new piece of information I hear. So not only is it pathetically easy, if you happen to be shitty enough to actually die, you just have to restart the fight and spam X faster.

    BRILLIANT.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:01 No.44813216
    >The leveling system from Final Fantasy 13 is beginning to come in to focus. According to Japanese magazine Shonen Jump FF13 does not have a traditional RPG leveling system. Instead of traditional leveling your characters will earn CP (Cyrstal Points) after every battle. You can then exchange these points for skills and abilities.
    >your characters will earn CP
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:02 No.44813270
    >>44812635
    There has never been a bigger faggot than you.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:02 No.44813272
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    I like most of the final fantasy games
    =]

    XII was awsome,
    And if anyone has played 'the last remnant' for the xbox 360? another square enix game.

    I loved it majorly, and you got healed after every battle.
    Whats wrong with being healed after every battle?

    Pic not related
    >> King Snork !IR7ogMhC0s 12/19/09(Sat)19:03 No.44813303
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    I think it's because SE has been using the same JRPG format for years then, in a single game, throw that entire formula out the window.
    I don't think it's bad but incredibly sudden.Which caught many people off guard.
    I would gladly play 12 again than this.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:03 No.44813340
    >>44813216
    >hurrr so randmund n funnye!111!! XdDDDDxDD
    Go back to /b/, faggot.
    >> Myelinated Neuron Stew !oximFKQup6 12/19/09(Sat)19:03 No.44813343
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    >>44813071
    FFXII was one of the best, the problem is it's not a weeaboo fantasy melodrama lovestory.
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    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:04 No.44813393
    There are niggers in this game so auto fail
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:04 No.44813401
    These also need to be added

    *The party must first fight and defeat their summons before they can be used
    *Nearly all summon fights will cast doom on the mc at the start of the fight requiring you to win in 3 turns or an instant game over. Most of these fights can be won in two turns. These fights are generally harder than most story non summon bosses.
    *Touching an enemy from behind on the field can result in a preemptive strike where the enemy has already lost half its HP
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    >>44813381
    You expect them to love you pulling a stunt like this?
    >> raltese !7VARROT7Ms 12/19/09(Sat)19:06 No.44813498
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    >>44813216
    >Instead of traditional leveling your characters will earn CP (Child Porn) after every battle.
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    I'm just trying to be me :<

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    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:08 No.44813606
    REHASH... REHASH... REHASH... GOD I LOVE REHASH! Just in Square Enix is just as shitty as all other Developers.
    >> Zhakuvaan !RSmVkU1nyY 12/19/09(Sat)19:08 No.44813618
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    >>44813381
    Minorin just stop. you are making me angry.
    >> King Snork !IR7ogMhC0s 12/19/09(Sat)19:09 No.44813642
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    >>44813498
    I can't that's_the_joke.jpg hard enough.

    >>44813554
    Well it surprised me.
    >> raltese !7VARROT7Ms 12/19/09(Sat)19:09 No.44813656
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    >>44813401
    The character having to defeat their summon before using it is fine, honestly. Used in FF4 (Feymarch) and FF8 (Ifrit), as well as series like Shadow Hearts.

    The summons themselves are the problem in this case. Since they don't even count as summons. They're more like transforming mech-cars that you name in honor of an ancient god.

    Pic related, actual summons.
    >> Myelinated Neuron Stew !oximFKQup6 12/19/09(Sat)19:09 No.44813662
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    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:09 No.44813676
    >>44813393

    srsly?
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:09 No.44813679
    >>44813303

    Also, making a game insanely easy and giving it a shit story is not helpful.
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    >*Touching an enemy from behind on the field can result in a preemptive strike
    Well that seems fine, I don't see what the pro-

    >where the enemy has already lost half its HP
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:10 No.44813725
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    >>44812457
    >implying that Final Fantasy X-2 did NOT have the best battle system, nevermind that the jobs were fucking awesome.
    >> King Snork !IR7ogMhC0s 12/19/09(Sat)19:11 No.44813743
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    >>44813679
    Yeah i guess that would do it too.
    >> raltese !7VARROT7Ms 12/19/09(Sat)19:11 No.44813756
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    >>44813642
    that's_the_obvious_mocking_of_an_already_obvious_retarded_joke.exe
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:11 No.44813771
    >>44813676

    any chicken powerups or water melonz?
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:12 No.44813799
    it'S hard to go back to a old styled fantasy even when its new, but weird after all the freedom in XII I guess
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    I love you Zhaaku, but you must let me go so that I may learn to fly on my own.

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    >> King Snork !IR7ogMhC0s 12/19/09(Sat)19:12 No.44813836
    >>44813771
    >>44813393
    >>44813216
    What is with all the /b/ in here?
    Honestly can't you stay in your own board?
    >> Myelinated Neuron Stew !oximFKQup6 12/19/09(Sat)19:13 No.44813861
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    >>44813725
    the story was utter and complete shit.

    battle system would've been better if you couldn't switch classes mid combat.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:13 No.44813879
    still it sounds like a
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:14 No.44813922
    >>44813861

    Protip: Ignore the story and have fun.

    Just pretend its not canon like everyone else.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:16 No.44813977
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    FFXII IS TOO DIFFERENT
    FFXIII IS TOO SIMILAR TO FFX
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:16 No.44813989
    The hilarious thing is when FF XIII is finally released for NA/EU all you fags will buy it and you will fucking love it.

    GOTY All years.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:16 No.44813990
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    >[Spoilers omitted, but complaints centre on Snow’s constant and cringe inducing insistence that he is a hero and will “protect” whatever it is the antagonists are menacing this time]

    I see nothing wrong with this what so ever.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:16 No.44814002
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    >>44813806
    You're a maggot.

    pic unrelated
    >> Corvus !pp1QJ4VZwc 12/19/09(Sat)19:16 No.44814006
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    >>44813806
    hey newfag, dont start any melodramatic bullshit with a tripfag in this raeg thread.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:16 No.44814016
    >>44810520

    all of this information was able to be correctly assumed after the trailer debuted last year.
    >> Myelinated Neuron Stew !oximFKQup6 12/19/09(Sat)19:17 No.44814031
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    why would I even bother playing it then? the combat system might've been slightly better then other turn based FFs, but it was still pathetically piss easy.

    there is no reason to play Final fantasies if you disregard the story.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:17 No.44814065
    >>44813181
    >it's not fucking TES

    Stopped reading there.
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    >>44813990

    There are ways to do it right, and ways to do it wrong.
    Being that this is FF, they're going to do it very wrong.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:18 No.44814096
    Where can I download the demo?
    Searched the endire JP PSN and got no luck
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    I'm not trying to start anything! I just wanted
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    >> King Snork !IR7ogMhC0s 12/19/09(Sat)19:19 No.44814154
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    >>44813977
    I liked 12 for the hunt club and Glorious scenery.
    It made Rabanastre and Archades seem like a much bigger city.
    >>44814006
    Let him do it. Makes it funnier for me.
    >> Corvus !pp1QJ4VZwc 12/19/09(Sat)19:19 No.44814159
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    >>44814104
    >friends
    >pulling some shit worse then a mutant form of lanced jack, zhak, KGG and I could pull
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:19 No.44814160
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    So the proper-FF sequel gets a blowjob from Famitsu for being complete and utter garbage, while the actual good FF game to be released around this time gets trashed for negligible complaints?

    That's marketing, for you.
    >> Myelinated Neuron Stew !oximFKQup6 12/19/09(Sat)19:20 No.44814169
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    >>44814104
    If you lick my asshole I might lick yours if you're not a hambeast.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:20 No.44814172
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    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:20 No.44814174
    >>44814104
    If you're going to troll with the forum post shit, you might as well use the same avatar each time.

    If you don't know how to do that, you don't deserve to be called a troll, newfag.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:20 No.44814226
    >>44813977

    You know, the problem here isn't that it's like FFX, because FFX was relatively good.

    It's that the game has a fucking horrible story (even by FF standards) and that the gameplay is lame and piss-easy.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:21 No.44814231
    >>44814096
    Not a download, it came with the Blu Ray 'Advent Children Complete' or some shit like that.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:21 No.44814242
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    Lets just ignore the faggot with the signature bullshit and go about discussing FFXIII

    Sure am glad I lost interest in the FF game franchise with XII
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:21 No.44814260
    >No leveling

    Really? I was wholly uninterested in this game until I heard that.
    >> Anonymous !.inAWESOME 12/19/09(Sat)19:21 No.44814272
    SNOW CONFIRMED FOR HERO OF JUSTICE TIER.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:22 No.44814291
    >>44814104
    >apparently has a post counter
    >made about 13 posts
    >counter goes up by 3
    8/10
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:22 No.44814310
    It isn't a Final Fantasy if it isn't melodramatic as fuck. I don't see what you fags are complaining about with the story.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:22 No.44814315
    >>44814104
    > Pretending /v/ is a forum
    > Keeps changing the avatar

    Wrong, doing it, etc.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:23 No.44814355
    >I like to put all the negative points about a game in list format to make it look terrible

    This can be done with any game, you know. It's too easy.
    >> Biorr of the Twin Fangs !GWFk2UNZ6k 12/19/09(Sat)19:23 No.44814356
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    I guess this means we aren't' friends? :(
    >>44814174
    But I like having an image that reflect my
    mood! ^_^
    >>44814169
    I'd much prefer keeping my tongue off
    your.... meat >_>

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    >> Corvus !pp1QJ4VZwc 12/19/09(Sat)19:23 No.44814381
    >>44814154
    yeah infact im playing XII right now, SINGLE PLAYER MMO FTW.
    well not playing, i got it on negalmurr auto levelling
    the scenery was gorgeous, made the game seem bigger then it is. story is POLITICSPOLITICSPOLITICSDATASSPOLITICSPOLITICSWHININGWHININGWHININGBrothierPOLITICSPOLITICSPLOTTWIST
    .

    and yeah, maybe we should let them get all tripfagin cybering, would make a shittier thread shittiest.
    >> King Snork !IR7ogMhC0s 12/19/09(Sat)19:23 No.44814386
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    >>44814242
    Sounds like a plan.
    Ive said all I can that hasn't already been discussed.
    Japan hates it,we hate it(sort of) and will most likely bomb pretty damn hard if not only for the die hard fans of the FF franchise.
    >> Myelinated Neuron Stew !oximFKQup6 12/19/09(Sat)19:24 No.44814414
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    >>44814366
    You cannot resist the forbidden nectar from my Sac.

    It is delicious, you must have some.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:25 No.44814469
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    >>44813861
    The story wasn't necessarily bad, I think the only real problems were the general girliness of the game and how Yuna and Rikku have turned into complete teenage whores.
    That aside, the music was fine, the gameplay was awesome, and the story had potential (Finding out what happened to Tidus and saving him...or something like that)
    And I kinda liked the way you could change the jobs in battle, it works great, at least when you turn off the sequences you have to watch when changing the costume. Of course the costumes are rather gimmicky and sexy, but I guess the gameplay makes up for that.

    Goddamn, I hate how once you've selected a pic to upload you can't delete the path.
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    >>44814356
    Shut the fuck up.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:26 No.44814500
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    >>44814160

    >Well, the story is awesome and the visuals are great and the world is practically seamless. It's fun, it's new, it's different, and it's loaded with side-content. However, the focus is on exploration instead of battling, and you can only do about five different things in battle. WHOEVER HEARD OF LIMITED OPTIONS? In short, the gameplay is ass because, in the very few battles in the game, you must throw shit around. 7.7 - Gametrailers
    >> King Snork !IR7ogMhC0s 12/19/09(Sat)19:26 No.44814505
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    >>44814356
    This and FF14 is what I'm looking forward to.
    Fuck yer Layle.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:26 No.44814549
    i thought it was already established that versus XIII would be more of a FF game than XIII.

    you people expected too much. you should never do that.
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    I do things my own way, I don't like being
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    >>44814291
    Thanks for reminding me!
    >>44814414
    No

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    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:27 No.44814577
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    >>44814366
    oh fuck you're really trying now aren't you
    >> Myelinated Neuron Stew !oximFKQup6 12/19/09(Sat)19:27 No.44814578
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    >>44814469
    I disliked X's story as well, so x-2 was adding onto the fail for me.
    >> raltese !7VARROT7Ms 12/19/09(Sat)19:27 No.44814579
    >>44814386
    FF13 won't bomb. There are too many idiots who will blindly rush in and buy something by brand name alone despite anything past experience should tell them. It's a shame, too, that so many of them won't at least rent it first to see if it's worth their money given S-E's reputation of the past 6 years.
    >> Biorr of the Twin Fangs !GWFk2UNZ6k 12/19/09(Sat)19:27 No.44814588
    >>44814500
    It's easy to read a review of the game that dumbs down the combat to "lol pick things up and throw it." But when you play, it's actually FUN. Imagine that.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:27 No.44814591
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    Meh, I have a new waifu, I don't care.
    >> King Snork !IR7ogMhC0s 12/19/09(Sat)19:28 No.44814643
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    >>44814551
    Goddamn you're dedicated to this forum bullshit.
    Can't say i approve of it but i admire the dedication.
    >> raltese !7VARROT7Ms 12/19/09(Sat)19:29 No.44814662
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    >>44814591
    Enjoy your waifu!
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:29 No.44814701
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    >>44814500

    FFFFFFFFFFFFF, THAT REVIEW.

    HE EXPLAINS HOW THE GAME IS ALMOST ANYTHING BUT FIGHTING, SAYS IT'S GREAT, BUT THEN SAYS "I DUN LIKE TEH FIGHTAN" AND GIVES IT A 7.7.

    FUCK, WHAT A TROLL.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:30 No.44814711
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    >>44814551
    >I do things my own way, I don't like being
    a simple sheep.
    Are you implying you're the first to do this? You're not doing things your own way, you're copying someone else's style.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:30 No.44814716
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    It's been said, but this is what you whiny bitches get for complaining about how 'hard' XII was.

    Fuck you.
    >> Myelinated Neuron Stew !oximFKQup6 12/19/09(Sat)19:30 No.44814746
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    >>44814551
    Play tough now, but eventually your tongue shall taste the inside of my colon.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:31 No.44814784
    >>44814591
    That picture is absolutely horrendous. I generally keep quiet but... dayum.

    LOOMIS
    >> raltese !7VARROT7Ms 12/19/09(Sat)19:31 No.44814787
    >>44814716
    The fuck kind of motivational is that?!

    Everyone knows Lex loves cakes.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:32 No.44814828
    I was already pretty much guaranteed to skip FF13 anyway, this thread is in line with that, it also makes me want to go through 12 again. That game was awesome.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:32 No.44814844
    Yuck.

    This is coming from someone who actually likes FFXI.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:33 No.44814877
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    >>44814711
    I'm still being myself, regardless of
    similarities. :D
    >>44814746
    That's okay. ^_^

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    >> Myelinated Neuron Stew !oximFKQup6 12/19/09(Sat)19:33 No.44814879
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    >>44814716
    people actually complained that FFXII was hard? I wish it was harder so you couldn't depend solely on gambits.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:33 No.44814913
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    Squaresoft fucking sucks now. Final Fantasy had been shit since IX.

    Square dominated the 90s when it came RPGS, but much like many of the classic movie studios of the 50s that went out of business as movies evolved in the 60s and 70s, Square had lost its touch and is being rapidly being taken over by companies like Bioware (inb4 Bioware sucks, they make some damn good games) and will eventually fade into history.

    But oh, will we ever have some fond memories of their glory days and the first nine Final Fantasies.

    But at this point, thats all they'll ever be. Memories.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:34 No.44814916
    >>44814578
    Well that's too bad really.
    >> King Snork !IR7ogMhC0s 12/19/09(Sat)19:34 No.44814929
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    >>44814716
    I didn't complain in the slightest.
    Apart from a few shitty characters I liked it.The combat system was different and refreshing,they took full advantage of the PS2's graphic capabilities. The areas were well detailed and beautiful to look at.
    The story was stupid but then again,
    >FF
    >story
    The hunt club was fun and challenging and the monsters were well detailed and animated.
    I never really saw the problem people had with it other than Hurr Vaan's a fag Durr.
    >> raltese !7VARROT7Ms 12/19/09(Sat)19:34 No.44814954
    >>44814879
    Yeah, I only ever read people complaining about the game being too easy, not too hard. "If you set your gambits the right way, the game plays itself," etc.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:35 No.44815005
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    >>44814877
    Are you? Are you really?
    ...or are you trying to pass off as someone else disguised as what you once were in an attempt to be someone you can never be again?
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:37 No.44815068
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    >>44815005
    Now I'm confuzzeled :<

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    >> King Snork !IR7ogMhC0s 12/19/09(Sat)19:37 No.44815090
    >>44815005
    It's the real deal I'm sure of it.
    He/she would recall the picture i used to have.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:37 No.44815099
    >>44814929

    Its faults were, indeed, a few characters, Vaan stealing the spotlight, the story, and the (lack of) difficulty.

    Also, it wasn't an FF game, it was a Tactics spin-off.

    Really, I hate Square for adding "Final Fantasy" to everything they make.
    >> Myelinated Neuron Stew !oximFKQup6 12/19/09(Sat)19:38 No.44815160
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    >>44814929
    Vaan was only tacked on because Wada thought a game with a mature main character wouldn't sell(basch was originally the main character)
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:40 No.44815268
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    >>44814879
    I never liked Final Fantasy 12 I gave it so many chances, and in the end it seemed like I was playing the game just to get obliterated in the next boss battle.

    I don't know, the gambit stuff just feels like I'm programing the game to let me win and it doesn't feel like I'm actually doing something.
    That aside, when I get into it, it's fun, but then I see myself losing to a boss again again after having grinded and leveled up like 5 times in the past hour.
    It feels rewardless.
    >> King Snork !IR7ogMhC0s 12/19/09(Sat)19:41 No.44815278
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    >Also, it wasn't an FF game, it was a Tactics spin-off.

    See there's the criticism i like to hear.I didn't pick at that either since it was made by the same dev team who made tactics and if regular SE can't kick out of their usual JRPG habit then it's easy to understand neither can the tactics team.
    Well, now regular SE tried to kick the habit and now made a glorified movie of a game.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:41 No.44815296
    >>44815160

    We know, that's why we hate him.

    Nobody had a problem with Bartz.
    >> King Snork !IR7ogMhC0s 12/19/09(Sat)19:42 No.44815382
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    >>44815160
    Yeah i heard about that.
    Japan really love their effeminate,androgynous men.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:44 No.44815454
    >>44815278

    I'm just more concerned by the fact that good meta-series are getting "Final Fantasy" slapped on them.

    We could do with just "Crystal Chronicles" and "Tactics" (after the sequels adopting monikers like "Vagrant Story" and "Tactics Advance", there's no point in keeping FF in the title).
    >> Myelinated Neuron Stew !oximFKQup6 12/19/09(Sat)19:44 No.44815458
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    >>44815278
    Problem is, FFXII's Dev team got fucked with badly the whole time, because it wasn't like FF7, 8, 9, and 10.

    they got forced for add in Vaan/Penalo, then Matsuno got removed from the project 1/4 into development went down hill from there.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:44 No.44815463
    If that's true, then the game's absolute shit. I'll would give you that. If I wanted to be sure, I'd play it myself, but I haven't played a single FF game after FFVI. FFVII and beyond have lost that Final Fantasy soul, that special touch, that je-ne-sais-quoi. Or it might not enjoy the mechanical backgrounds, decors, aspects and whatnot of those games.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:44 No.44815491
    Vaan and Penelo had no point in being in FFXII. Also Ashe is an unlikeable bitch and I wish she wasn't in the game. The main character should have just been Fran's butt.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:44 No.44815492
    >>44815417
    The game has been released in Japan already. 2chan's been shitting all over it.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:45 No.44815524
    Pre-order canceled,thanks OP.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:46 No.44815620
    >>44815524

    Idiot.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:47 No.44815646
    >>44815458

    Yeah, when you basically make a full-budget spin-off of a series and your lead dude leaves before the beta is even close to done because his bosses are telling him how to make his own game, you know executive meddling has gone too far.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:47 No.44815650
    >>44815524

    why do you lie?
    >> King Snork !IR7ogMhC0s 12/19/09(Sat)19:48 No.44815736
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    >>44815458
    I hated SE for that.
    I recall sticking the disc in for the first time and expecting something glorious but closer to the end i found it slowly anti-climaxing.
    Forcing those two kids was the stupidest idea honestly.
    >>44815454
    What sells a SE game faster? Slap FF on the title.
    >> Myelinated Neuron Stew !oximFKQup6 12/19/09(Sat)19:49 No.44815774
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    >>44815646
    It's really disappointing, knowing what could have been if matsuno had his way.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:50 No.44815818
    It's a game for 12 year olds. What the fuck do you expect?

    ITT: We ignore the obvious and whine about it.
    >> King Snork !IR7ogMhC0s 12/19/09(Sat)19:51 No.44815886
    >>44815774
    Nomura should be kicked out.He's completely tapped out of ideas and is leading the company downhill.
    Matsuno has tried to keep what made Final Fantasy good.
    I figured FF was a way to describe Japan's idea of a western Medieval fantasy.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:52 No.44815921
    >>44815099

    They put "Final Fantasy" into every title to help it sell better, obviously. That and it allows them to use black mages, Chocobos, spell names, etc. without having to re-create new-but-similar classes, spells and stuff every time.

    I wonder how FF12 would have went if the main guy behind the game didn't leave.
    >> Anonymous 12/19/09(Sat)19:53 No.44815982
    >>44815921

    They can have all that shit in there WITHOUT slapping on "FF". They own the properties.

    Atlus does it all the time, as does Nintendo.
    >> Myelinated Neuron Stew !oximFKQup6 12/19/09(Sat)19:54 No.44816006
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    >>44815886
    Too bad Matsuno is gone, apparently he went to Nintendo pitched a RPG concept to them. They loved it and bought Monolith Soft to give him a Dev team.

    Sakimoto is working with him on music.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcflgnLmgms



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