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    73 KB Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)22:35 No.41892107  
    Am I the only one who thinks that Organization XIII of the Kingdom Hearts franchise had a SHITLOAD of wasted potential?

    As far as villain societies go, they're among my favorites. They have cool uniforms, member interactions are full of backstabbing and treachery, they're leader would crush a bag full of kittens with a giant block made of blunt nails shaped like penises if it helped him get ahead. They've got good weapons, for the most part, and each member has something about them that's great (Though, they may only have one thing amid an ocean of bullshit).

    That, and their villainous plans involve killing people and sacrificing their hearts to the moon. Hardcore.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)22:36 No.41892156
    Exactly why I like each member:
    Xemnas: He's even forgotten what it's like to have emotions. No remorse, kills people and takes their hearts to gain power, commands his life in a smooth, cold voice. A great example of a good villain; no one else in the world matters besides him.

    Xigbar: Eh, he's a fucktard for the most part, but his ability to screw around on the job and retain his rank says something about his abilities. Laser guns as weapons, can teleport and defy gravity, and has kickass battle damage.

    Xaldin: Aside from "I tear your shit up for the lulz," There's really not much to say here.

    Vexen: I feel bad for the poor guy. All he wants to do is be a competent villain, and he tries so hard at it, but the cockbags that he has for "comrades" keep fucking everything up. A combination of pity and sympathy makes me love Vexen. If he was a real person, I would brofist with him.

    Lexaeus: No personality aside from being Zexion's whipping boy, but fucks people up with a huge axe-sword thing.

    Zexion: One of my favorite villains. Creating plots and plans to shift things in his favor, makes other people fight for him while they don't even know it, and mindfucks people with illusions. Also dies a great villainous death by way of getting his soul sucked out.

    Saix: Tearing shit up berserker style. Works for me.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)22:37 No.41892212
    Axel: God I hate this faggot. The only thing good about him it when he fights, pulling the occasional badass, but never really going anywhere anywhere else.

    Demyx: Every team needs a dumbass, and he plays the role so perfectly that I want to hug him for it.

    Luxord: Time power, fights with cards and dice, has an English accent. Okay, but just kind of blends in.

    Marluxia: I hate the hell out of this guy, which is why I love him. He's such a huge dick to everyone, making him hated by the player, and thus a good antagonist. Plus, he's a male character that holds his flower manipulation abilities well.

    Larxene: One of my favorite wimminz in video games, she's just a great villain in general. Great powers, being such a bitch, and only being in things to see other people cry.

    Roxas: I feel bad for this poor fucker, because he as the most misplaced potential of any characters in Kingdom Hearts. He's a great fighter, pulls asskickery frequently, only to be absorbed into the single most unlikable protagonist ever aborted from some Lovecraftian horror's vagina.

    Xion: Eh, aside from the psychopathic tendencies, I didn't like her that much.

    That's pretty much it.
    >> sage 11/08/09(Sun)22:38 No.41892255
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    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)22:38 No.41892256
    Before you say anything, I am well aware that I am indeed a faggot, etc, etc.
    >> Digitaldevil !!5BmXmcdTxCy 11/08/09(Sun)22:39 No.41892302
    I like Kingdom Hearts too.

    and inb4 massive raeg for Kingdom Hearts thread
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)22:39 No.41892307
    A few of the organisation members really aren't evil and villainous, like axel has a change of heart and demyx isn't really a fighter, sora is a pretty nasty guy for killing him.

    Anyway, what I really want to know is if all of the Organisation have heartless' ? Because we know of xenmas' and roxas' heartless xehonort and sora but i don't think there has ever been mention of the others.

    Though i did hear ven was mentioned at least one point in the game, perhaps that is related?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)22:39 No.41892313
    Also, I do notice now the grammatical error in the second paragraph of my first post: They're should be replaced with their.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)22:40 No.41892365
    i agree with you OP
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)22:40 No.41892374
    >>41892212
    >psychopathic tendencies

    Haven't played the game: explain this please, I like psychopathic "girls" in games.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)22:43 No.41892497
    I like how you can't tell who's who when they have the hoods on. That's just cool.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)22:43 No.41892508
    >>41892307
    The first six members somebodies are known:
    Xemnas: Xeanhort (Though his name in an anagram of Ansem, a name that he took as an alias)
    Xigbar: Braig
    Xaldin: Dilan
    Vexen: Even
    Lexaeus: Elaeus
    Zexion: Ienzo
    >> Dwayne: 4511-7377-7746 11/08/09(Sun)22:44 No.41892584
    >>41892307

    Demyx was responsible for the destruction of Hercules's coliseum and nearly got Herc himself killed.

    Fighter or not, he did what he needed to deserve an ass-kicking.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)22:44 No.41892610
    the thing about Roxas is tho, is that since the organization has been easily the target focus for the recent games, you CLEARLY like him way better then sora. and pretty much play through KH2 just to learn more about Roxas and who he was
    thats why 358/2 days was awesome on a story standpoint.
    it makes it seem like sora fucked everything up, even tho hes the one main original character that everythings linked to.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)22:45 No.41892648
    >>41892374
    She functions as the final boss by way of putting on a suit of armor and trying to kill Roxas and absorb his memories to become a whole being. Xion isn't a nobody, rather, an imperfect clone of Sora, and as such she would be complete by absorbing Roxas because it's HIS aspects of Sora that she lacked.

    But then she cries and apologizes at the end, fucking everything up.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)22:46 No.41892740
    >>41892508
    Yeah, i'm not talking about the person they were before they became heartless/nobodies, i'm talking about their heartless counterparts.

    I mean, I assume they all have heartless counterparts. One of the theories that I considered is that some of the heartless characters from the original kingdom hearts such as malificent or that sea urchin bitch could possibly be the heartless counterparts, but honestly that doesn't really seem logical.

    Does anyone know if the franchise pursues this in Birth by Sleep?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)22:48 No.41892824
    >>41892508
    don't forget:
    axel = lea

    This is mentioned a 358/2 days cutscene. It would seem saix knows about this. I think they were brothers or some shit.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)22:49 No.41892915
    >>41892740
    Aside from Xeanhort's Heartless, it's never really gone into. Though each of them would have a Heartless version, because nobodies come into existence when a heart falls to the Darkness, becoming a heartless.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)22:52 No.41893105
    >>41892915
    Do you think Riku has a Nobody?

    I mean, if he has a shell of xehonort inside of him and uses the power of darkness then does that mean he became a heartless?

    I mean, he has an imperfect replica made of him just like xion (chain of memories) so does that mean he is also a shelled heartless/nobody? Seems logical to me.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)22:53 No.41893181
    >>41893105
    yeah i also have a question about The King that's in KH2 and 358/2 days. In 358/2 days his keyblade is aparantly the "dark side of the kingdom key" or some shit, so does that mean that he is also a heartless/nobody?
    >> Pyramid Head !/O89fJMhC2 11/08/09(Sun)22:57 No.41893365
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    >>41893181

    Doubtful. Everyone seems to have a keyblade nowadays. Riku had one in KH (now THAT was an actual "dark" keyblade" and Kairi could weird one at the end of KH2.

    Mickey's just seems to be another keyblade like Sora's with the same general properties, but it's a different color scheme to simply look different from Sora's.

    On another note, I'm on day 78 or so in 358/2 Days, and so far this is probably one of the most boring games I have ever played.

    Honestly I'm just playing it since I've played all the other games, and I will finish it eventually, but goddamn, does it ever start getting fun?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)22:58 No.41893479
    Yeah, OP. I feel the same way about how they were treated. They had all this stuff to work off of and in the end, you only fight each of them once or twice and they die and are never seen again.

    If there's one thing I hate in games that have a bit of a storyline going is when they introduce and kill off bad guys in the same installment. And with KH, there's a limit to how many non-Disney bad guys you can introduce before even the fanbase turns on the series.
    >> The Lingering Sentiment !!jcGkCnXmToh 11/08/09(Sun)22:59 No.41893499
    >>41893181
    Sora's is from the realm of light, Mickey's is from the realm of darkness and RIku's is in between. I don't think that necessarily means he's evil, thats just where the keylbade's from
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:03 No.41893762
    >>41892307

    Yes, they would have a heartless, but that's not to say it's going to keep it's original form like Xenahort's did. They had a strong enough will to retain their form as a nobody, but so did Sora, and even he became just a piss-ant shadow when he became a heartless.
    >> Logic? !!oUfcTG1MmPd 11/08/09(Sun)23:04 No.41893831
    >>41892107
    agreed.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:06 No.41893929
    >>41893499
    that makes no sense.

    The cornerstone of light is in MICKEYS castle.
    >> Logic? !!oUfcTG1MmPd 11/08/09(Sun)23:10 No.41894161
    Was any of you guys around when I made up the mind fuck about KHs? Or should I repost?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:11 No.41894222
    >>41894161
    repost
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:11 No.41894247
    >>41894161
    Repost, if you would.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:12 No.41894284
    >>41894161

    About him being a kid not wanting to grow up? If so, please don't. :D
    >> Logic? !!oUfcTG1MmPd 11/08/09(Sun)23:13 No.41894349
    >>41894284
    Roger
    >>41894247
    Sorry guy
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:13 No.41894351
    >>41894302
    oh man this is some braid shit incoming.
    >> The Lingering Sentiment !!jcGkCnXmToh 11/08/09(Sun)23:14 No.41894374
    >>41893929
    Why does that not make sense?
    >>41894161
    Let me guess, theyre all about someone being raped and escaping to some mind world to cope with it or just viewing everything perfectly? I'd still like to see them
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:15 No.41894459
    organization xiii is pretty sick. they're the metaphorical nihilist 3rd party in the war between good and evil. they're tragic in their acknowledgement of meaning nothing. they know that their memories and 'feelings' mean nothing because everyone dies eventually and when they do they'll fade away. i think villains whose goal is to obtain a heart and thus be complete are pretty original and compelling because the player wants to stop them because they're fucking up other worlds to obtain their goals but they're also tragic and sympathetic. each of them has a unique personality. reasons i like each:

    xemnas - great leader. methodical, cool, collected, articulate. always knows what's up and what he's doing. never pulled the cliche "GRRR I TRANSFORM AND KILL U NOW RAAGE" many jrpg endbosses do.
    xigbar - a lot like xemnas, but replace the stoic solemnness with sarcastic, lighthearted lackadaisical personality.
    xaldin - even though their goal is to obtain a heart, xaldin seems to enjoy not having a heart, and looks down on people who do because he sees it as a vulnerability. and he manipulates (beast) to take advantage of that vulnerability.
    vexen - smart guy. too internally involved with his experiments and whatnot, and thus didn't see coming his cohorts' treachery.
    lexaeus - silent, powerful, and damn good at reading people. a threatening, tall statue whose eyes are locked onto you.
    zexion - i dig the illusion powers and all his twisted plotting. too cocky, had it coming.
    saix - like xemnas but loses his cool and rages when shit goes awry.
    >> Logic? !!oUfcTG1MmPd 11/08/09(Sun)23:15 No.41894469
    >>41894374
    give me an email address compatible to yahoo or hotmail and I'll instant messege you.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:16 No.41894513
    axel - even when shit goes crazy, axel takes it all in on his stride. badass backstabbing and secret plotting. never quite know what he's thinking behind his laid back disposition and smirk. also, GOT IT MEMORIZED?!
    demyx - lazy coward. surprise the organization didn't kill him themselves.
    luxord - time and card powers, fuck yeah. sees everything as a game or gamble, and partakes for the fun of it.
    marluxia - badass for secretly trying to overthrow the organization. also too cocky and had it coming.
    larxene - thundercunt
    roxas - young kid without a heart slowly gaining an understanding of self and the world around him. CMOA was when shit gets real and he decides to think for himself and escape the castle
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:18 No.41894588
    >>41893365
    Play multiplayer missions on proud mode with bros = 9.5/10 game.

    Also, did anyone else like Roxas as a protagonist more than Sora? Roxas seemed like an actual character amidst a sea of uncertainty but never actually crossed the line into emo. He was just a guy who wanted to be a normal kid and remained with his friends.
    Sora on the other hand, had either two personalities: The golly good moralfag who kicks ass and the retarded kid syndrome. It's really disconcerting.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:19 No.41894656
    >>41893365
    I heard there are 4 real keyblades during KH1-KH2, light, dawn, dusk, and dark (I could be wrong on the names but /v/ was the first time I heard of them)

    they can, of course, let others use them, but kairi's isnt a real one during KH2.
    >> Logic? !!oUfcTG1MmPd 11/08/09(Sun)23:19 No.41894668
    You guys make me wish there was a video on youtube about all thier great moments and I don't want some yaoi-khs faggot to do it either, I want someone from /v/ to do it, who will bring out thier best parts.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:21 No.41894759
    >>41894588
    >but never actually crossed the line into emo.

    u mad? hes fucking emo the entire game.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:23 No.41894903
    >>41894759
    I wish you knew what emo was.
    Actually, I don't, it gives me something to laugh at :3c
    >> The Lingering Sentiment !!jcGkCnXmToh 11/08/09(Sun)23:26 No.41895004
    >>41894668
    >yaoi-khs faggot
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh597MfxRHA
    Sup?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:26 No.41895016
    >>41894759
    >>41894588

    I never really looked at him as being emo, just childish. You still have to remember that the game is half Disney, and Disney is for what? Children.

    Am I the only person that really thought Sora fit the part? :\
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:26 No.41895032
    i fuckin loved xemnas' voice trying to manipulate sora and riku in a part of the final battle. so badass and cool.

    "Sora...are you sure that you [i]trust[/i] Riku...?"
    "Riku...are you sure you're not..[i]jealous[/i] of Sora..?"
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:28 No.41895107
    >>41895016
    most disney movies used to scare the shit out of me as a kid...
    >> The Lingering Sentiment !!jcGkCnXmToh 11/08/09(Sun)23:29 No.41895143
    >>41895032
    Dear god, YES. I was just thinking about those lines the other day.Still don't like his voice though, Ansem Xehanort's Heartless had a better one
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:31 No.41895245
    I knew /v/ loved kingdom hearts!

    You bros are cool.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:31 No.41895272
    I want hunchback in KH 3
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:32 No.41895279
    >>41895143
    well shit yeah, billy zane did that fucker's voice. full of win; was pissed when they redubbed ansem's voice in kh2 during the kh1 flashbacks
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:32 No.41895324
    >>41895272
    HELLFIRE
    DESIRE
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:35 No.41895431
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    If this is in Kingdom Hearts 3, it'll be an instant buy.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:35 No.41895455
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    >>41895324
    HELLFIRE
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:35 No.41895462
    >>41895431
    >>41895272
    do we even know if there will be one? I mean after BBS
    >> The Lingering Sentiment !!jcGkCnXmToh 11/08/09(Sun)23:36 No.41895473
    >>41895279
    That was probably the one thing that pissed me off the most about KH2. Billy Zane fit perfectly for this kind of game. That flashback at the door of KINGDOM HAAAAAARTS still hurts
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:37 No.41895530
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    >As far as villain societies go, they're among my favorites. They have cool uniforms
    Stopped reading there.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:38 No.41895558
    >>41895473
    in KH1, Kingdom hearts was a door to the realm of darkness

    in KH2, kingdom hearts was the moon

    I dont get it
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:39 No.41895599
    >>41895455
    DEAD.
    >> The Lingering Sentiment !!jcGkCnXmToh 11/08/09(Sun)23:39 No.41895613
    >>41895558
    The realm of Darkness house the heart of all worlds, Kingdom Hearts. The moon is a fake Kingdom hearts.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:39 No.41895639
    >>41895613
    a fake kingdom hearts?

    What is a kingdom hearts then?

    a big blob of hearts?
    >> The Lingering Sentiment !!jcGkCnXmToh 11/08/09(Sun)23:40 No.41895664
    >>41895639
    Yes, exactly
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:41 No.41895712
    >>41895664
    what the hell, how does a big blob of hearts give the organization members hearts?

    Did they have a plan after they made that shit?
    >> Logic? !!oUfcTG1MmPd 11/08/09(Sun)23:41 No.41895732
    >>41895558
    I'm watching the Organization die on Youtube...its not the moon, its just in the sky. It looks like a moon because they were taking the hearts back, which made shadows on it that made it look like the moon. Watching the trailer for KH3, its also in the sky.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:42 No.41895781
    >>41895732

    I was kidding, its a thing in the sky, it looks sorta like a moon.
    >> The Lingering Sentiment !!jcGkCnXmToh 11/08/09(Sun)23:42 No.41895787
    >>41895712
    Disney Magic
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:43 No.41895798
    >>41895787
    FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:43 No.41895835
    >>41895732
    >trailer for KH3

    you mean BBS?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:45 No.41895942
    >>41895798
    LOL
    >> Logic? !!oUfcTG1MmPd 11/08/09(Sun)23:46 No.41895958
    >>41895835
    whatever it is, its badass. I really like watching the Roxas look-alike die, very touching.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:47 No.41896010
    One thing I didn't get is how they could still crush on each other, even as Nobodies.

    Larxene mentions this, and Xigbat does jokingly, but is somewhat serious about the advice he gives.

    I want to know what the hell makes those coats ward off heartless.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:48 No.41896060
    >>41896010
    yeah, for people with no emotions, they sure have a hell of a lot of emotions.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:49 No.41896162
    >>41896010
    Disney magic?
    >> The Lingering Sentiment !!jcGkCnXmToh 11/08/09(Sun)23:50 No.41896168
    >>41895798
    Sorry, you cant have all the answers
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:51 No.41896268
    >>41896010
    The coats protect them from the corroding effects of the darkness. Which is why King Mickey and Riku wore one.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:53 No.41896344
    Nomura made a shitload of OCs and had no idea what to do with them, so in KH2 they became filler bosses.

    Xaldin and Luxord were the only ones who actually did shit in the Disney worlds. Xemnas just sat around, Xigbar did nothing except mock Sora a few times, Saix did nothing except advance the plot, Axel was behind the scenes doing fuck knows what, Demyx was the comic relief.

    There should have been just 10 members or something.
    >> Logic? !!oUfcTG1MmPd 11/08/09(Sun)23:53 No.41896358
    >>41895712
    They thought by killing all the heartless, they would find thiers in it. They don't need ALL those hearts, just thiers. Xemnas probably had a different plan with KH since he is Xehanort.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/09(Sun)23:54 No.41896382
    >>41896010
    heartless don't want them cause they have no hearts. derp
    >> Medic !!fCyPu1YlBDE 11/08/09(Sun)23:55 No.41896452
    In my opinions, they were one of the worst parts of KH2 simply because they felt so out of place with everything the first game established. They would have been better in a completely different game where their potential could've been used properly.



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