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    966 KB Anonymous 09/07/09(Mon)23:53 No.37455187  
    BlazBlue General

    I just got the game today and I am thoroughly amused.

    Tips for an aspiring Tao?
    >> Anonymous 09/07/09(Mon)23:58 No.37455472
    Don't just Drive spam or spam 214C/214A. Learn her basic air combos, and remember, her Imma Beat the Crap Outta You distortion drive is incredibly hard to avoid for most characters, and its possible to combo out of it.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)00:02 No.37455662
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    Tao is shit, become a superior human being and start using Arakune.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)00:05 No.37455861
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    >>37455472

    Will do!
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)00:05 No.37455895
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    tao...gay use Bang ShiShigami
    >> Rasputin !!pLB+3CKYKT2 09/08/09(Tue)00:06 No.37455937
    I hosted a /v/ room on XBL the other day.

    I was surprised at how many Ragnas there were.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)00:07 No.37455957
    Don't start combos with 2A spam unless you really need to. 2A prorates her combos severely, making her damage output during combos laughingly low.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)00:07 No.37455967
    1) Her crawl move is actually incredibly useful, if you even crawl for a split second you can dodge 90% of the shit in the game and enrage people.

    2) 2A is a scrubby but incredibly effective way to get in, but it prorates like hell so you better be able to follow up that shit.

    3) Learn her drive cancel specials, they are very useful.

    4) People say "don't drive spam" but Tao can get away with poking people with her drive most of the time, as long as it's not all you do.

    5) LEARN HER COMBOS because if you don't she has less damage output than Bang.

    6) Don't ever combo into her Berserker Barrage-esque 5 slash distortion drive, it will do fuck all damage. That move is a reversal. Don't use Almost Becoming Two unless you know exactly what you're going to do and the enemy is knocked down in the corner. Don't throw out her pounce super from fullscreen like an obvious dumbass but be aware that it is incredibly hard to dodge and works as an awesome counter to a lot of shit.

    7) Throw a lot.

    8) Don't EVER throw out a random 6C because while baiting a counter hit 6C is how she gets her best shit off, the chances of you landing one are like 1 in 200. End your blockstrings in Cat Spirit 1 and use 5C as a poke instead, 6C is a retarded poke.
    >> TentacleDemon 09/08/09(Tue)00:08 No.37456022
    I'm up for some games.

    GT: LadyFascination

    It's been quite a while, just got back into BB last weekend.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)00:09 No.37456074
    I wish I didn't procrastinate this game so hard.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)00:09 No.37456097
    LEARN COMBOS. They are essential for her to get any headway. Also play with mixup and focus on fucking with your opponent's direction.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)00:13 No.37456288
    ffs stop the art dump
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)00:14 No.37456369
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    Go online and study, study, STUDY her combos. She is one of the most difficult characters to play well, since many of her combos are character specific, and even a small fuck up in execution can lead to catastrophic failure.

    From what I have heard, mind you. I main Arakune, and sub Carl, so I may not have my shit straight for Tao.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)00:16 No.37456439
    >>37456369

    You only ever need to learn like 6 combos in this game tops, 3-4 general ones and some character specific ones.
    >> Mage3YE 09/08/09(Tue)00:19 No.37456654
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    Any xbros interested in a Player Match room?
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)00:20 No.37456680
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    >>37456439
    I'm just saying that I've heard a lot about Tao having very specific timing in her combos, and a slight execution error can disrupt the entire thing, as opposed to you being able to salvage it.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)00:21 No.37456719
    Why does Tager suck so much ass?
    >> Rasputin !!pLB+3CKYKT2 09/08/09(Tue)00:23 No.37456817
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    >>37456719
    DON'T PUT DOWN SCIENCE.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)00:23 No.37456825
    >>37456719
    i do not understand you, good sir. He has invincibility frames on sledge, and backdash, and you are able to punish for massive damage.

    There are few things in life more rewarding than using GETBACK on someone, and practically being able to hear the tears streaming down their faces.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)00:24 No.37456922
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    This thread is full of good and useful information, /v/ being helpful is a frightening thing.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)00:26 No.37457025
    >>37456817

    Don't get me wrong, I like Tager, but he fucking sucks, man.

    He has the second shittiest pressure game in the game, worse mixup, no anti air, a mediocre combo game, a hitbox so large you can cross him up for free, almost no way to bait bursts, and all his shit is ground based. Even the mechanics of the game are against him. If he was in GG with it's 7 frame jumps and walk-forward-receive-meter mechanics he would have infinitely more options, but right now he just blows ass.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)00:27 No.37457105
    >>37456825

    Tager has no positive matchups except arguably against Hakumen, and even then it's more 5.5 than 5.5-4.5. He has 4 7-3/8-2 matchups in a game with 12 characters.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)00:32 No.37457279
    >>37457105
    You need to free yourself from the tyranny of matchup-charts. Through constant practice and knowing the characters inside and out can you can overcome almost any obstacle.

    A good friend of mine did just that, and now he goes - maining Tager - and started murdering players 40-60 levels higher than himself, with ease.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)00:37 No.37457544
    Tager isn't shit, he's a good character, BUT, every other character is better than him SUPPOSELY.

    Mike Z can beat the crap out of everyone in this thread, I assure you that.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)00:39 No.37457659
    Here's one. Fuck SRK. Fuck the Metagame.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)00:41 No.37457765
    >>37457279

    The thing is that matchup charts and tier lists aren't just tourneyfag shit, tiers are real. You can't just go "tiers don't exist with enough skills" because in the end, there is just some shit that is just better. It's like in SF4, how Sagat is above Dan. It's a 7-3 matchup. That is a broken matchup. Now, does that mean Dan vs Sagat is always a Sagat win? No, if the Dan is more skilled he can bust out a win, but what it means is that the Sagat has so much more to work with. So much more, in fact, that if both players have the same level of competent skill, the Sagat will win an overwhelming majority of the time.

    There's a reason Sagat is better than Dan, a reason Ryu is better than Ken, etc. Every character has their tricks, but there is some stuff that just IS.

    That's what it's like with Tager. Have you seen a really good Nu player fighting a really good Tager player? Tager's only safe way to advance is to walk, and EVEN THAT is unsafe. Nu can launch swords all day, and even guard break the Tager like that, from fullscreen. Tager has to cross the screen either by walking half the distance and using a move(jump C, sledge, 2D, whatever) or 2 moves. The problem is if he sledges too early he eats a sword for massive damage from fullscreen + Nu getting, minimum, 20% heat. If he sledges too late the Nu can do fucking anything. Best possible scenario the Nu takes damage/Tager is slightly closer. Worst case scenario Tager gets air juggled for 5k damage helplessly. And a Nu that doesn't make mistakes... cannot be advanced on. Hell, even up close Nu can C attack Tager into some RC rape combo, or just barrier burst and reset the whole match.

    In before Mike Z. Yeah he's good, but yesterday he also got raped by a Nu player who was worse than Goryus, and couldn't do a damn thing. Tager's gameplay is like 90% mindgames, and that is just sad because it's also an incredibly predictable character so all the mindgames are guessing what your opponent will do.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)00:45 No.37457964
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    >>37457765
    >> Achtzehn 09/08/09(Tue)00:47 No.37458111
    >>37457765
    I main tager, and while I mostly agree that tiers apply as much as I hate to admit it, playing tager is just glorious. not only is he an awesome character with ridiculous abilities, but when you take the lowest fucking tier character with no good matchups in the game, and beat the highest tier character in the game, its the best thing ever. When a tager beats a nu, its pretty much a soul crushing defeat, because it means that you just plain blow ass, if you can't even win an easy as shit matchup.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)00:47 No.37458118
    >>37457544

    Mike Z isn't even the best Tager in the US, let alone the world. Best Tager in the US is Jan (who beat Mike Z at SBO US) and Mike Z has repeatedly stated that Yumura is the best Tager in the world.
    >> GT: tofurr 09/08/09(Tue)00:49 No.37458201
    >>37456022
    I hope we can finally play together. D:

    Also, I've decided to pick up Litchi.
    >> Rasputin !!pLB+3CKYKT2 09/08/09(Tue)00:49 No.37458235
    >>37456654
    Still playing Ragna, Mage?
    >> Kirin 09/08/09(Tue)00:50 No.37458289
    >Tips for an aspiring Tao?

    Stop using such a shitty character.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)00:51 No.37458343
    >>37458118
    Well I am fucking sure that neither Jan nor Yumura are in this thread right now.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)00:52 No.37458366
    >>37458343

    And Mike Z is? Sup Mike, I'm a fan.
    >> TentacleDemon 09/08/09(Tue)00:53 No.37458462
    >>37458201

    You want to know something funny? I decided to sub Rachel.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)00:55 No.37458580
    >>37458366
    No, like I said in this post:

    >>37457544
    >Mike Z can beat the crap out of everyone in this thread

    Because neither Yumura nor Jan are here.

    l2read.
    >> GT: tofurr 09/08/09(Tue)00:56 No.37458602
    >>37458462
    Ha ha, awesome. Maybe one day when I get to the level you're at, we can have some great, awe inspiring mirror matches. =P
    >> Clem 09/08/09(Tue)00:56 No.37458611
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    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)00:59 No.37458780
    >>37458580

    Saying "Mike Z can beat anyone in this thread, invalidating arguments" is like "my dad can beat up your dad." Mike Z is awesome but Tager does have problems.

    Personally I think Tager needs:

    1) Real invincibility on Magna Tech Wheel, at least on startup, instead of auto guard.
    2) Instant startup on Atomic Collider, and it should not increase his hitbox so much as the hitbox increase gimps him against Arakune even more
    3) Auto Guard when firing Spark Bolt
    4) Spark Bolt needs to either charge faster or use up less meter(70%)
    5) A FUCKING ANTI AIR
    >> Rasputin !!pLB+3CKYKT2 09/08/09(Tue)00:59 No.37458782
    I played a Litchi the other night.

    I couldn't get out of the corner. D:
    >> Clovis !9L.gxDzakI 09/08/09(Tue)01:00 No.37458806
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    Arakune main here; I have a ton of trouble fighting a good Tao. I just can't get any distance on her!

    Any tips? I even hear it's supposed to be a matchup in Arakune's favor, so I must be really fucking bad...

    Pic related; best Arakune color.
    >> Mage3YE 09/08/09(Tue)01:00 No.37458846
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    >>37458235
    yeah, I want to learn Rachel at some point, and maybe Bang, but right now I think it's best to learn the character I'm currently playing.
    >>37458201
    I'd like to play your Litchi some time. Your Rachel was really good, what made you decide to switch?
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)01:01 No.37458876
    >>37458780

    Only one I really agree with is Anti-air.

    Also, give him a double jump or at least some sort of air dash to improve his mobility.
    >> TentacleDemon 09/08/09(Tue)01:02 No.37458957
    >>37458602

    Aye, but to be honest I hate Litchi mirrors. JUMP C ALL DAY EVERY DAY lol. Its literally a race to see who gets the counter hit first.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)01:03 No.37458988
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    Oh god, is the 360 still around. If anyone can throw me an invite, that'd be awesome. May tag is Pilby
    >> v-13 !!XtB2aTvyD1Z 09/08/09(Tue)01:03 No.37458997
    Damn I wanna play, but I'm shit out of luck on playing on an xbox right now.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)01:04 No.37459037
    >>37458806

    Throw out a cloud at the start of the match and then use 5A and dive bombs to fuck with Tao until she gets cursed. After that mash and throw out bell bugs to make the air yours.
    >> GT: tofurr 09/08/09(Tue)01:06 No.37459140
    >>37458846
    Thanks, bro. And I should have worded that differently, I meant I was going to pick her up as a sub.

    >>37458957
    Oh, well then we can just keep to Rachel. I've never seen a Litchi mirror before.


    Anyways, I'm making a 360 room called SMALLTIEM. If anyone wants to join go ahead and look for it. I'll have a 3 or 4 private spots for those who can't find it and I'll invite you.
    >> Mage3YE 09/08/09(Tue)01:06 No.37459155
    We seem to have enough xbox players on now to get a room going, yeah? I'll start a room if nobody else wants to host
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)01:06 No.37459164
    >>37455472

    >>her Imma Beat the Crap Outta You distortion drive is incredibly hard to avoid for most characters

    Hahaha, oh wow

    it doesn't connect on a crouching character
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)01:06 No.37459181
    >>37458806
    Bait her then go for 5a>6B when you can, then throw Hover Cloud and Bellbug when possible, after that just fly like a faggot until she gets cursed, then go KURAZY.
    >> Mage3YE 09/08/09(Tue)01:08 No.37459303
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    >>37459140
    Ah, thanks for the invite.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)01:10 No.37459418
    Seriously what is up with people in this thread saying Imma beat the crap out of you is hard to evade ? It's a terrible super. It's piss easy to counter or dodge.
    >> Achtzehn 09/08/09(Tue)01:11 No.37459500
    I would make a PSN room, but I can't host for shit. So if someone hosts I'll gladly join.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)01:14 No.37459673
    >>37459500

    I'd play, but I hear the average /v/ room is like half Tagers.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)01:15 No.37459733
    >>37459673

    You heard right.
    >> Clovis !9L.gxDzakI 09/08/09(Tue)01:16 No.37459831
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    >>37459181
    >>37459037
    Thankee-sai
    >> Achtzehn 09/08/09(Tue)01:17 No.37459857
    >>37459673
    not gonna lie I am a tager main, and a good one at that. Like I said though, when someone makes a room I'll join, and there will be some tagerin happenin.
    >> GT: tofurr 09/08/09(Tue)01:18 No.37459930
    Looks, like you're going to have you're mirror match, TD. =P
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)01:18 No.37459953
    >>37459733
    >>37459673
    I'd love to play with a room full of tagers, because I main Arakune

    GIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHI
    >> TentacleDemon 09/08/09(Tue)01:19 No.37459966
    FFFFFFFFFF

    Oh well lol.
    >> GT: tofurr 09/08/09(Tue)01:19 No.37459976
    >>37459831
    Hey Clovis, want to join our room?
    >> AngelReverse 09/08/09(Tue)01:19 No.37459989
    I'm up for a few games if you don't mind mucho ZONAN going on
    >> Clovis !9L.gxDzakI 09/08/09(Tue)01:21 No.37460071
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    >>37459976
    Sorry; I'm finishing up a snack, then hitting the hay. Gotta get up for class early tomorrow; Tuesdays and Wednesdays suck ass for me.

    Thanks for the invite, though.
    >> GT: tofurr 09/08/09(Tue)01:21 No.37460113
    >>37460071
    ah, alright.
    >> Cuban Democracy 09/08/09(Tue)01:22 No.37460161
    Tager is a terrible character to fight.
    Tager and Hakumen.
    At least wirh Nu you usually lose very quickly. Tager vs Tager/Tager vs Hakumen is two guys playing grab-ass from fullscreen trying to zone each other with characters that have no zoning. And the tide can change at the drop of a hat.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)01:23 No.37460203
    >>37460071
    HEY
    CLOVIS
    still want to suck my cock?
    >> Achtzehn 09/08/09(Tue)01:23 No.37460227
    >>37460161
    sorry, I don't know how to zone as tager, hell I don't bother. I only have one direction as tager, which is the only direction he has anyway. Forward.
    >> AngelReverse 09/08/09(Tue)01:23 No.37460259
    >>37460161

    Actually it's probably more midscreen.

    It actually looks a lot like a SF4 match, now that I think about it.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)01:25 No.37460331
    they really need to give dan something like bang install
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)01:25 No.37460344
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    >>37459857

    I'll play Tager until this game dies. Which really might not be that far away

    I'll pick up other characters. I've already started working with Jin, Racheal, Tao, Arakune, and Bang, but Tager will always be my 1st string soldier.
    >> AngelReverse 09/08/09(Tue)01:25 No.37460345
    >>37460227

    I think super jumping and using j.C high in the air allows you to cover the necessary distance while still being able to block the obligatory anti air. Then it's just a matter of pressuring.
    >> GT: tofurr 09/08/09(Tue)01:26 No.37460403
    Our room's full of Litchis and Rachels.
    >> Clovis !9L.gxDzakI 09/08/09(Tue)01:26 No.37460409
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    >>37460203
    ....were you that gent from the food thread?

    If so, yes I would :3

    If not...remind me who you are, but yes, I probably still would.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)01:26 No.37460433
    >>37460409
    Yeah.
    >> AngelReverse 09/08/09(Tue)01:27 No.37460486
    We'll, I'll start a /v/ room. My PSNID is my name.

    Message me here or on the triple for an invite.
    >> Achtzehn 09/08/09(Tue)01:28 No.37460533
    >>37460486
    alright wait like 5 minutes after you start the room to invite me, gonna step out for a quick smoke then join you guys. You should have my PSN already but in case you forgot its my name.
    >> Clovis !9L.gxDzakI 09/08/09(Tue)01:30 No.37460623
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    >>37460433
    Then it's a bummer you're not still in the frigid tundra of Minnesota, man D:
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)01:30 No.37460650
    You know, I fucking love fighting Tager.

    He's just fun to fight, I'm actually excited for my opponent when he gets me in a 720C.

    On the other hand, I hate fighting Nu. I don't think she's overpowered or whatever, she's just SO BORING TO FIGHT.

    Block swords, block swords, block swords, find opening, get bursted, block swords, block sword, find opening, do a combo, get knocked back.

    It's so boring, I'd rather lose to a Tager than win against a Nu.
    >> AngelReverse 09/08/09(Tue)01:32 No.37460752
    4 more open slots for the /v/ PS3 room people.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)01:33 No.37460797
    >>37460650

    I actually feel the exact opposite. Tager is really boring to play against, while Nu and Arakune are always really exciting.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)01:36 No.37460944
    >>37460797

    I don't mind Arakune either, Jin has ferocious DPs so getting him out of the air isn't too bad.

    But goddamn, Nu is boring, I don't see how you can have fun blocking against a bunch of swords from the air. It's such a chore.
    >> AngelReverse 09/08/09(Tue)01:36 No.37460965
    No one on tonight ?
    >> Cuban Democracy 09/08/09(Tue)01:37 No.37460992
    >>37460650

    Tager is somewhat exciting to play unless it's against Nu or Arakune. At that point it's just waiting for them to make mistakes and hoping they don't random sword/bug you out of your spark shot.

    Tager vs Tager and Tager vs Hakumen are boring most of the time, but occasionally you have a very tense match. The problem is once you've played Tager vs Tager/Tager vs Hakumen about 20 times you have more or less seen it all. And /v/ lobbies are packed with Haku/Tager. Fighting one guy who uses Hakumen/Tager, sure. Fighting Tager after Tager after Tager = just too much.

    I had a really cool match today against some level 70 Noel player. The first round he had me cornered and was one blow from victory until I managed to air recover, jump out, and then put some ghetto pressure on him culminating in a 5B > 720, then I magnetized him and grabbed him out of the air with a random Collider. Second round was also a huge comeback win due to magnet collider and smart use of super. I said "good game" but then he called me a faggot and I was sad.
    >> AngelReverse 09/08/09(Tue)01:37 No.37461004
    >>37460944

    It's the "find an opening" part. Very stimulating.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)01:38 No.37461064
    >>37460992

    Tager always has great comebacks from nowhere, which is half the fun from fighting him.

    With Nu, she either rapes you, or you rape her.

    And both scenarios are boring as sin.
    >> AngelReverse 09/08/09(Tue)01:40 No.37461127
    >>37461064

    Eeeeh, I think Tager's ability to take half your life in an instant without any burst possibility is complete bullshit, but whatever. If he can"t steal a match, he can't win, so...
    >> Achtzehn 09/08/09(Tue)01:41 No.37461194
    >>37461004
    alright, I'm back kick me an invite when you finish the match, if you're in one.
    >> AngelReverse 09/08/09(Tue)01:42 No.37461276
    >>37461194

    Invite sent.
    >> Achtzehn 09/08/09(Tue)01:43 No.37461315
    >>37461276
    fuck, got stuck connecting forever, gonna restart, send me an invite when you guys finish the match while I restart.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)01:44 No.37461347
    BLah blah balh n blah ... its just a game .. get over it and just have fun ... RAGING
    >> AngelReverse 09/08/09(Tue)01:44 No.37461350
    >>37461315

    I'm not playing anyone, I'm alone in this little room. No one wants to play ;_;
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)01:45 No.37461423
    >>37461347

    Who are you targeting... No one is bickering.
    >> RideIntoTheNight 09/08/09(Tue)01:46 No.37461457
    I'm up for a couple of games, though I'm doing fairly bad tonight. Toss me an invite on PSN.
    >> GT: tofurr 09/08/09(Tue)01:46 No.37461466
    Doesn't this guy do courtesy skips? lol.
    >> AngelReverse 09/08/09(Tue)01:46 No.37461477
    >>37461457

    Will do as soon as we're done with this one.
    >> AngelReverse 09/08/09(Tue)01:52 No.37461806
    Don't abuse 5D against Hakumen, Achtzehn, it's pretty easy to 6D.
    >> Mage3YE 09/08/09(Tue)01:53 No.37461816
    >>37461466
    UBETUFF did, but he's like the first person I'd seen do that.
    At least he's picking different characters from time to time, unlike our Tao player last night.
    I thought I could beat his Carl, but I got sloppy in the third round.
    >> ojsinnerz 09/08/09(Tue)01:54 No.37461874
    Any room left? I'm up for some matches.
    >> AngelReverse 09/08/09(Tue)01:54 No.37461911
    >>37461874

    i'll invite you as soon as this match is finished.
    >> AngelReverse 09/08/09(Tue)01:56 No.37461994
    OOOH NICE
    >> RideIntoTheNight 09/08/09(Tue)01:56 No.37461999
    My Rachel sucks ;_;
    >> Mage3YE 09/08/09(Tue)01:56 No.37462006
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    My dad just called, he got out of the hospital last week so I'm gonna pass my next match or two so I can talk to him.
    >> Spinzaku !!ayocKye4lPi 09/08/09(Tue)01:57 No.37462044
    Still got room in the PSN room? I feel like getting my balls handed to me. PSN: Tomdori
    >> Achtzehn 09/08/09(Tue)01:57 No.37462061
    >>37461999
    whew, that was a little more work then I'm used to for rachel.



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