No More Heroes is released
>HAHA WIIFAGS ENJOY YOUR SHITTY SHALLOW REPETITIVE GAME

Suda51 says next NMH won't bee on the Wii
>HAHA WIIFAGS SUCK IT WE HAVE YOUR AWESOME GAME NOW HAHAHA

Actually yes, this is disappointing for me. However, it is also quite far in the future. The article indicates that No More Heroes 2 is still being released for Wii, and that in of itself is a ways off. Unless I am reading things wrong, the implication here is that No More Heroes 3 will be a PS3/360 title or possibly even next-gen. That's fine with me if it's the former, as I also own a PS3.

As long as Travis Touchdown, NMH needs to be a franchise. And I will love it every step of the way. But by fuck, he'd better not make a PS 3 exclusive NMH. I don't have a PS 3... ;_;

In during hypocrisy.

It'll probably be a better game on a different console.

I don't understand why he would split a franchise between 2 consoles though. That kinda fucks over part of the fanbase. Why doesn't he just make a new series on the other consoles? I guess Suda is a troll.

I have a Wii and a PS3 so no I'm not upset.

>>34223868
console fanboys are fickle whores

I stopped caring about NMH after playing the first one. Suda can do whatever he wants with his crappy games. In fact, he should just get into the anime business instead as retarded cutscenes are the only things NMH ever had going for it.

>>34223932
>>34224067
Suda apparently has a hard on for the 360. It could possibly be a 360 exclusive, though he apparently is also working on a PS3 exclusive so I guess 360/PS3 isn't out of the question.

>>34224056
He really likes the character Travis Touchdown and he wants him to be a video game idol of sorts. Along the lines of Solid Snake, Mario, etc. He feels like the Wii is holding the series back, and claims to want to do great things with it.

>>34224182
Everybody wins with multi-plat. :)

>>34224249
in before he releases a 360 game, it doesn't sell well either and then he blames consoles as a whole or something.

>>34224249
I enjoy Suda's games and everything, but he just always strikes me as being a dumbshit

>>34223932
This sums how I feel + I think Suda deserves to get some money after all the games he made that didnt sell much, you should be thankful that NMH 2 will be on the wii, most developers wouldnt have risked a second failure. He knows he wont make much money out of it but he will still do it.

I wouldnt be surprised if NMH 3 starred different characters though.
Also, I think it can grow much better on the PS3 or XBOX360, I only own a Wii but hey, what can you do?

>>34224249
>he wants him to be a video game idol of sorts. Along the lines of Solid Snake, Mario, etc.
So a niche developer is getting ideas above himself? This should be fun to watch.

Most overhyped crappy hipster franchise on the Wii is leaving the platform? Phew, the thought of going to purchase Super Mario Galaxy 2, Metroid: Other M, or Zelda Wii and seeing the NMH brand within the same glass case just makes my blood boil. Do me a favor Suda and move that shit to another platform. And don't worry, I'm sure we'll be seeing Travis in the next Super Smash Bros. fighting alongside Link like you want, in your dreams, 'fuckhead.'

>>34224056
Cause such thing never happened, right?

>>34224412
It has a better chance there than on the wii, whose audience ignores games like this.

valkyria survived on ps3, nmh can too.

>>34224412
Suda loves Travis Touchdown too much, NMH3 will definitely have him as the main character.

>>34224417
He was even quoted saying he'd like to see Travis in the next Smash Bros game. He feels like the NMH games have helped the Wii quite a bit and that Travis deserves to be in the roster.

>>34224448

>>34224512
I agree with the smash bros angle. NMH is imo the best game on the wii.

This is old fucking news, and good fucking news.

I like the fact NMH stands out from the Wii crowd with it's ultra-violence and cult references, but I don't think it matters if it's a Wii/Nintendo exclusive series. If anything, it just opens up more possibilities for the series.

He said that NMH2 will be the last one on the Wii.
He said nothing about Wii's next console.

Also, inb4 continued bad sales.

Slowtaku strikes again; we've known this since, I don't know, last week, last month

>>34223868

>>34224412
>>34224480
Hell, to ciment my comment on such things just think Capcom and RE 4. (wii is different because of the controls and obvious differences in system capacities, though one can expect remakes in other systems due to that in the long future)

>>34223797
>Couldn't he just go make a new game and quit milking this memecow?

A third game in a series is "milking this memecow"? Okay, I'll remember that next thread where you slurp Kojima's cock, /v/.

Wouldn't the natural progression of Travis being in an assassin's order lead to someone eventually murdering him and taking his place?

If he kept being the main character, this series will be dead in the water.

Have any of Suda's game ever sold really well?

>>34224602
He is leaving Nintendo.

>>34224602
He pretty much implied that he was taking the series onto a non-Nintendo console. Whether that means 360, PS3, or both, who knows. But like I mentioned before, it's more than likely either going to be multiplat or a 360 exclusive since Suda loves the 360.

I myself would like to see Travis Touchdown rise to become a mascot character like Snake or Mario or something. Travis Touchdown is fucking awesome, and I'd like to see him in the next Smash Bros. as well. Too bad they'd have to tone down the cursing to...well, nothing. Shinobu could be an assist maybe, if she lives through the second game.

>>34224686
His greatest success, if I'm not mistaken, was NMH, and that was only in NA/EU. It was also really only a moderate success, at that.

Poor Suda. :(

Travis in SSB isn't impossible, though he'd be a tad out of place with his constant swearing and such.

He probably will appear in the next SSB, but I'd say there's about 80% chance that it'd be nothing more than a Trophy.

No More Heroes fucking sucks. Twilight Princess, a Wii launch title and inferior port of a GameCube game with loose and tacked on controls blows NMH, a specifically designed Wii game released over a year after launch, out of the water in every way. Graphically, gameplay, music, story. What the fuck was Suda doing with all his time and money in producing NMH?

>>34224748
Really? Why is he an Xbro?

>>34224784
Not sure how accurate vgchartz is, but it says that No More Heroes sold about 400,000. That's not too bad.

>>34224686
No.

>>34224758
>>34224799
Well, characters in SSB don't really ever talk, so I don't really see the whole swearing thing as a problem.

>>34224850
He likes that there Project Natal

>>34224841
He was making an entertaining game in a very specific, over-the-top style and tone. And he succeeded.

Sorry. :)

>>34224895
He must think he deserves the sales that huge ass companies get.
>>34224940
in b4 NMH jumping around gaems

>>34224850
Because random violent "mature" games sell well on it regardless of being good or not. I like Suda's games but he does sound rather pretentious with all the bull he spurts.

>>34224841
It's his style.
Some like it, some, like you, do not.

i really don't see how the PS3/360 will truly benefit a game like No More Heroes, except for possibly making it bigger. But honestly, does a game like No More Heroes (or anything by Suda for that matter) need ultra realistic graphics. IT just doesn't seem neccesary

>>34225006
>I like Suda's games but he does sound rather pretentious with all the bull he spurts.

Oh, Jesus, only you, /v/, would call Suda 51 pretentious and then start a fucking MANLY TEARS Big Boss thread.

I have a PS3 and I don't give a shit, Suda's games have ALWAYS sucked. Flower Sun and Rain? Killer 7? No More Heroes? They were unique, sure, but they were also EXCRUCIATINGLY BAD. Worst gameplay ever. The faggot needs to go make movies or something instead.

>>34225036
He don't care bout no graph-fixs, son.
That there Suda just wanna make some money.

>>34224915
Several Victory Poses and quotes, 3 taunts and some others.

Travis couldn't go through all that without swearing.

Also, if they were to attempt to make another Subspace Emmisary, he, just like everyone else, would have to be silent.

Silent Travis for entire cutscenes at a time? Impossible.

>>34225036
I'm pretty sure it has much less to do with actually expanding upon the game and much more to do with expanding sales of the game. Suda probably believes that the game will attract more people on 360 or/and PS3 than on Wii.

I remember Suda being particularly annoyed with sales of the game in Japan. He was much more irritated with Japan's Wii userbase than anything else, so it's not really about the "Wii is for soccer moms" thing.

>>34225036
I don't think graphics is the issue, really. I think it comes down to the demographic of the console. NMH sold well in the NA and EU right? Prime territory for releasing the game on the 360 to get more sales.

>>34225083
How is idolizing a character who went through a lot of bullshit and killed his mentor for, what he didn't know at the time, wasn't actually a traitor pretentious? How is saying your own favorite personally created character should be idolized like Mario or Solid Snake NOT pretentious?

>>34225125
Add Contact to the list, he just doesn't seem able to make a game that sells well and accept blame for it.

Maybe if he stopped trying to be so fucking edgy with his games then he might sell stuff better.

>>34225029
it's pretty ingenious to develop shit games with "artistic flair" and weird ass storylines that make no sense, and use the "it's ART man, you just don't get it".

Poorly made games don't suck if the director intended them to suck?

Didn't care when it was on Wii and if it comes to 360 I still won't care.

>>34225125
>>34224841
Same person, maybe? Either way, objectively wrong and hilariously over-the-top double-standards over here.

Excellent. This means that more people will get to enjoy these games.

That's a good thing.

>>34225200
I like the word "ambitious" better than pretentious. I don't think there is anything wrong with Suda having the ambition of Travis becoming a huge well-known vidya character. Since Travis Touchdown is already a fucking awesome character with a fucking awesome name, I am glad that Suda has that ambition.

Sure, NMH 3 won't be on the Wii, because it's going to be on Wii HD.

Simple.

>>34225158
While I think Travis being in Smash would be a bit farfetched, him being in cutscenes would be hilarious. Not cause he'd get to swear, but because every time he'd try to open his mouth someone, something, or Sir Henry Moutherfucker could just run by and interrupt him in some form. Would fit with the character since it'd be funny if done right.

>>34225158
I'm just saying that if he was in SSB then he'd be mostly silent. You know they wouldn't let him swear in the game. It's not like any of the other characters talk much either. Sure it doesn't make sense for Travis, but if he was in the game that's how it would be. Just look at Snake.

>>34225258
They still suck, it's just that you've created an army of blind followers who will defend said games to the fucking grave.

>>34225200
I think the guy was saying that Suda himself is a pretentious douchebag, not the characters he makes.

>>34223797
>Couldn't he just go make a new game and quit milking this memecow?
What is this said meme associated with the game?

Well, I have a friend who also enjoys NMH as much as I do.
Thankfully, he has a Wii and 360 and I have a PS3.
I'm good no matter where it goes.

>>34225237
Contact wasn't actually Suda, but it was Grasshopper. Like, Ponpoko wasn't actually Miyazaki but it was Ghibli.

>>34225237
He wasn't the director of that one. All the games he directs suck, period.

>>34225365
Actually, I was saying that calling Suda 51 pretentious and then LAUDING UP AND DOWN THE BLOCK THE GLORIOUS HIDEO KOJIMA is completely fucking hilarious.

Harman kills Travis at the end of NMH2. That's why you see Travis throughout Killer 7.

>>34225388
He fucking produced contact.

>>34225338
Confirmed for non-Nintendo console.

>>34225388
Fucking Weaboo faggot

>>34225458
And Stephen Chow "produced' the Dragonball movie. That doesn't mean shit, mang.

>While disappointing news for Wii owners
>Wii owners
Now seriously if the Wii is the only Console any one owns then there is seriously something wrong.

>>34224182
A ps3 exclusive? you mean that new untitled game he's working on? that's for the 360 and PS3 according to him.

>>34225458
Well, in an interview, he said "S51: Well, I mean…it’s not really my game, it’s mostly Ueda’s."

So, there you go, as far as his actual involvement.

>>34225541
Yes it does, it means they're both faggots who will work on any piece of shit.

>>34225528
I'm communicating on the level that /v/, rather all of 4chan, knows. Hell, you got it, didn't you?

>Iphone

>>34225163
>He was much more irritated with Japan's Wii userbase than anything else,

Really? Japan's userbase seems to be better than America's at least since they actually produce good Wii games there... most of which don't even leave Japan.

>>34225441
Harmin IS Travis, but he sees him as another person or his past, seperate self.

>>34225441
FUCKING THIS.

>>34225572
He was still involved, Contact was a shite game.

Everything that man touches won't sell amazingly well.

By the title, I had almost gotten the impression that NMH2 was going to jump platform to the NDS, seeing as how the title did that thing they do with DS titles;

Desperate Struggle, Dust Strikers, Dual Strike, Dark Souls, Dawn of Sorrow, Deadly Silence.... you get the picture.

>>34225441
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS I CAMEEEE-AH

>>34225645
Yet it was America and maybe Europe where Suda reaped in No More Heroes sales. His game sold like shit in Japan.

>>34225661
Okay, fine, no one is disputing that he was involved. Big deal.

>>34225725
Japan confirmed to have better taste than America.

As long as it's still good /v/ won't give a fuck. They'll just argue about anything.

The only people upset about NMH when it was a Wii exclusive were the people who didn't have a Wii.

The only people that will be upset about a console jump will be the people who don't have whatever console (probably 360) it moves to.

Typical asspained fanboy /v/ at it again. If you fags didn't have such foaming-at-the-mouth brand loyalty, you wouldn't be having to deal with this shit.

>>34225795
Oh, what, is that you outing yourself as a troll? Fine, well done, whatever, there are people who genuinely think that way, so I guess I was "fooled" or whatever.

>>34225801
No we don't, you fucking faggot.

>>34225441

you ARE aware that the Travis in Killer 7 is a different Travis, right? Different last name and everything. Doesn't even fucking look like him.

cool grasping straws, bro.

>>34225877
>Typical asspained fanboy
What's the matter? Can't say bu­tthurt?

>>34225877
Sorta.

I am kinda upset that it is jumping consoles, even though I own a PS3 and believe it will be multi-plat. I think the motion control on Wii really worked for it quite well actually. I believe there was definitely plenty of room for improvement that would be better done on Wii. I don't really think that PS3 or 360 will actually improve the game much. The most that I believe they will do is possibly help the game sell better. The graphics will get better, but I don't give a flying fuck about that.

>>34225342

What I'm afraid of is that No More Heroes sales won't improve on PS360 at all because the userbases will ignore it in favor of the FPS of the Month.

>>34226001
I'd be interested to see how the Wii Motion Plus worked for it, but to say that the motion controls worked well for it? About as much as Twilight Princess. Both are fine, but plagued by slightly moderately occurring problems.

I call it the Wiimote Tax.

>>34225877
I for one dont have any brand loyalty, but NMH was 1 of the 3 reasons I got a wii. I'm very sad to see it leave unless it's a next gen console. I dont own either ps3/360 because I for one see HD gaming as a joke, I mean the games look alright but they only last for 6-10 hours while on my DS I have games that last 20+ hours. I also dont like to pay over 50 bucks for a fucking game, let alone pay even more for live. if it does head to one of those consoles I might pick one up if it looks like it will be as good and the first 2 and hopefully something will come out that I want to play as well.

>>34225439
Idolizing Big Boss has nothing to do with idolizing Kojima. I like Travis, don't like Suda. I like BB, don't like Kojima. See how that can work?

>>34226171
I never had a problem with TP for the wii. NMH sometimes it didnt matter which way I went for the finishing blow but it was still good IMO.

>>34225926

There's only one elephant in that picture.

>>34226199
Ugh, I was just using it as an example of /v/'s Kojima fetish. Fine, whatever, Boss threads aside, this place sucks that guys dick up and down and all around without even the slightest clue that he is gaming's Ingmar Bergman, if Ingmar Bergman were really dumb, Japanese, infatuated with Michael Bay and completely and utterly self-oblivious.

Stop speculating.

All Suda said is that NMH2 is the last on the Wii. He never said it's going to PS3 or 360.

>>34226171
Indeed. There was still plenty of room for improvement. However, I still enjoyed the "high vs. low" system for attacks. I thought moving the wii mote was pretty fun for a hack-n-slasher. Hack-n-slash games and beat-em-up games both are similarly repetitive. Both motion control and Suda's own imagination helped relieve some of that repetitiveness in my opinion. The random minigames, which I personally found enjoyable, is an example. The one I usually mention is that shoot em up you get to play when Travis falls asleep on the subway. That was actually pretty fun. Zany stuff like that, plus the awesome bosses and motion control, is what kept me entertained.

>>34226377
Indeed, the same elephant in the same image displayed twice. Jolly good observation, ol' chap.

hopefully they will concentrate on PS3 now

>>34226389
I love MGS's setting/story but hate hideo. he doesnt think that video games are art...I know some arent but some are...he said MGS wasnt art...that alone made me lose a lot respect for him. I guess social commentary isnt art

One of the huge reasons the game was fun was because of the [spoilers] wagglan [/spoilers]

I want kurayami for PS3 NOW!!!!

>>34226423
>Indeed. There was still plenty of room for improvement. However, I still enjoyed the "high vs. low" system for attacks.

I wonder how they'll do the high/low system on the PS360. Probably just use a button, same with finishing blows. Wrestler moves would use a D-pad+button combination, I bet.

It would make things easier but would it be as fun, I wonder?

>>34226602
I dont think it'll be as fun. waggle for the grabs was perfect. it made me feel like I was power bombing bitches.

>>34226179
Wii games don't last very long either dude. Plus, a lot of games nowadays have online. That greatly expands the longevity of said games. While I do find it sad that solid single-player experiences are somewhat being tossed away nowadays, I am overall happy with the trend of games going online.

Games aren't as expensive as you think either. Assuming you don't buy new games at launch, you could easily find 360 and PS3 games for $30-$40 bucks. Probably less if you get them used. I own a Standard TV because I frankly don't give a flying fuck about graphical improvements, but I still find my PS3 to be plenty enjoyable. My first console this gen was a Wii for similar reasons as you. It's well worth it though to have a Wii PLUS a 360 or PS3.

>>34226179
Most games (that are worth playing) are not 6-10 hours long and the only people who claim this are treating them like a fucking race.

>>34226716
I got 50 hours out of TP, 17 out of my first run of NMH, over 50 hours out of HotD 2/3 and RE:UC. I'm fine with that. but the 360/ps3 doesnt have any console sellers for me. when MGS4 came out my friend had a ps3 so I played and beat it, same with fallout 3 and RE5. none of those I want to own. CoD5 was fun but got old after a month. I'm not too big on FPSs so there isnt much else either system has to offer. another thing is I love to buy games at launch or if I like them, I refuse to buy used games unless it's near imposable to find it new just so I can support the devs for making a good game.

>>34226803
what games are longer than 10 hours? fallout 3? everything else I've played for the 360/ps3 have been really short, SMG gave me 20 hours, mariokart gave me 100 plus cause of the online...FPSs give more time but I dont care for them

Suda is the definition of style over substance.

He makes mediocre games and shitheads like yahtzee eat it up cuz it's "different" and shit.

NMH was pretty bland, and NMH2 isn't obviously going to fix the flaws in the first one, just more empty battles, more empty land and more lol randum boss fights.

>>34226716

Online Multiplayer is the cancer killing games, and you know it.

I mean, Halo, CoD, Gears, it's all the same fucking shit, with the same multiplayer, and same campaign. To say that playing the same people using the same weapons, same maps, etc. is "Longevity" is a disgusting thought.

Look at SF4. Not a very "long" game in itself, really. But saying that fighting Sagat all day is longevity is fucking stupid.

>>34226938
Like I said, you can still still buy new games for pretty cheap assuming you don't get them at launch. And you're still supporting the developer.

Valkyria Chronicles is a great game for PS3 that you'd be able to get a whole lot of time out of. Grand Theft Auto IV is another great game that I've just recently been getting into. The amount of time you could potentially spend in that game is fucking ENORMOUS. There is just so much shit to do. I think you could spend hundreds of hours and still not complete everything the game has to offer.

I personally love Blazblue a lot and think I'll be playing that (mostly online) for years. Fallout 3 has a solid single player experience too. There are really plenty of good games for all three consoles.

>>34227085

You can see into the future, huh?

>>34227125
>Grand Theft Auto IV
>great

>>34227085
>NMH
>bland

Pic related

>NMH2 isn't obviously going to fix the flaws in the first one

Except from what we've heard and seen, the complete OPPOSITE is true.

>>34227114
I own Street Fighter IV, but I haven't really properly delved into it. I rushed to unlock Dan so I could play him against a friend. That's practically all I've done in the game. I played a few people online, but not too many.

I personally really enjoyed the online in LittleBigPlanet and currently enjoy the online in Blazblue.

>>34227054
Putting the time in to get all of the single player achievements in Ghostbusters takes at least 16 hours, but that's multiple playthroughs, so I guess you'd find that to be cheating. Tomb Raider Legend took me about 20 to find everything and do the time trials, same with Condemned 2. Saints Row 2 I spent somewhere in the neighborhood of 110 hours in, but if you subtracted the fucking around and kept it at the actual missions, side quests, item collection and territory shit, it would probably be 70 (plus I was playing co-op exclusively.) Crackdown was definitely in the 30-40 hour range, Resident Evil 5 I got the full achievements for also, but once again, multiple playthroughs... Um... I'm trying to think of what else I've played in the past few months.

>>34227125
GTA really? I never cared for the series cause I hated the missions, they were fucking bland, drive and shoot drive and shoot. after 20 mins of a killing spree the game gets old. saints row 2 was fun just for the customization but again it got old. VC for the ps3 looked ok but again it didnt draw me in and made me want to play it no matter what. I've tried to look for games for both systems I just dont see anything appealing, it's all FPSs or 3rd person shooters, no rail shooters, no light gun no beat'em ups(that I like)

I don't really care on which of the 3 consoles he makes the games, just keep making them weird, or I don't have a reason to play them anymore.

I don't understand people saying games having bad gameplay, every game is playable, but how many are actually stylish and different than the others?

>>34227225
You're entitled to your opinion. So far I've personally found it to be a very humorous and entertaining game. My only honest gripe with it thus far is that the cops are WAY too fucking numerous and aggressive. Vice City is probably a more fun game overall simply because you can start tons of fucking shit and get away with it. In GTA IV, getting away with casual killing sprees and carnage is a lot harder.

>>34227125
GTAIV is only somehwhat good in how it deals with online. Compared to Saints row 2 however GTAIV is dogshit. Why SR2 didn't have huge free-roam with multiple people just going crazy is beyond me. Would be so awesome. Hope SR3 includes it, cause that would have made it perfect.

>>34227334
Yeah, see, "blah blah blah I don't like it", "blah blah blah it got old." You're picking games up and either not finishing them, or finishing them to such a bare-bones degree.

kurayami now plz

>>34227330
RE5 to me was a shit game, I hated what they did with the story. I have always not cared for tomb raider, also I watched my friend beat it, took him less than 10 hours. I'm not talking about 100% beating games, I just talking about beating them, most of them are less than 10 hours, it only took me 12 to beat fallout 3, 7 to beat RE5. it just sickens me that the only way to get more time out of a game is to get achievements or it has to have online. I dont give a fuck about my gamer score.

>>34227516

RPGs are really the only games this gen to last more than 10 hours.

These "next-gen" games are way too freakin' short for how freakin' expensive they are. Sonic and the Black Knight is specially ridiculous, $50 for a game you can beat in a SINGLE NIGHT!

>>34227456
they either have a setting I dont care for, story I dont care for or just gameplay I dont care for. I loved VATs, I loved the cyberpunk setting in FO3, made me beat the game to see how bad the ending was, no replay value. GTA again is boring to me. RE5 had a very bad story and I'm still pissed about the ending. gameplay was ok, zero replay value(beside MERCs). I shoudnt have to find every little thing in the game for it to be good.

>>34227516
>RE5 to me was a shit game, I hated what they did with the story.
Oh, Jesus, of all the lousy reasons to not like a Resident Evil.

>I'm not talking about 100% beating games, I just talking about beating them, most of them are less than 10 hours, it only took me 12 to beat fallout 3, 7 to beat RE5.
It doesn't even sound like you're even going outside of the straightest, most linear path to beating a game, though. You're not venturing off the beaten path at all.

>it just sickens me that the only way to get more time out of a game is to get achievements[...]. I dont give a fuck about my gamer score.

See, once again, that misunderstanding about achievements. It has absolutely nothing to do with your gamerscore, or level, or whatever Steam uses. It has everything to do with adding objectives to the game you wouldn't have even looked at otherwise. Would you have picked up the umbrella in Dead Rising if it wasn't tied to an achievement? Or rolled the bowling ball rather than cave in a zombie's head with it? It's all about adding secondary objectives to the game.

It sounds to me like it's less about fun to you and more about seeing the ending.

Hey, here's an idea. Maybe the first "No More Heroes" would have "flown off the shelves" if so many Wii owners stopped softmodding and actually bought a good game, if for nothing more than to support it.

Enjoy losing all of your games this way. Honestly, this is why we can't have nice things.

>>34227614
Okay, so care to share some non RPGs from previous generations that are more than ten hours long?

To piggyback off of what >>34227758 is saying, a lot of games that are designed to be non-linear focus much more on the side-quests than the main story anyways. What's wrong with a game that you can get a lot of play-time out of by doing the optional stuff? I ultimately don't really care that much about if a game is linear or non-linear. A good game is a good game. A game with tons of shit to do is a game with tons of shit to do.

>>34227818
>implying that pirates are killing the industry

>>34227874
What are you talking about, man? Games used to be ten thousand times longer! Mega Man 2 was like a 50 hour game!

>>34227962
I believe they are, yes. What do you think happens when sales are low? People stop developing.

All I'm saying is, don't go "OH A GOOD GAME TIME TO PIRATE LOL" and then rage when they stop making sequels for it, primarily because of shitty sales.

>>34227758
The fact you fight crazy ass foreigners instead of zombies is a good enough fucking reason to hate RE5. Hell, at least RE4 made you HOPE the next one had that engine with zombies. But no, they fucked that up with 5.

>>34227758
RE5 doesnt have a "off path" it's a fucking straight line. as for story I've loved the other REs for that, I saw the story as a deeply woven plot, but not 5 it was a buddy cop movie. I would have done more in the games I listed BUT to me thay had zero replay value. I evev dicked around in FO3, but once I hit 20 all that was left was to beat it. as for the dead rising question, I havent played it but I would have done what you said on my own, just to see the hilarious outcome

Game was shit, anyway.

Sounds like Suda's banking on Natal to not blow cock. Here's hoping.

>>34227456
it's not just blah blah blah. there is shit on either console that I care for. you are just mad that I dont like anything. people have different tastes man. I dont care for FPSs, or 3rd person shooters unless there is more to it, like MGS or metroid prime. dont care for sports games, or puzzles dont like racing unless it's mariokart. fighting games I like but SC I never liked, tekken was best on the ps2 with tag and blazeblue to me looks like a GG rehash which again I never cared for.