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Steam:
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ENGINEERS CAN HIT THINGS WITH THEIR WRENCH AS WELL AS UPGRADE BUILDINGS

So down to the awesome tips and whatever. Let's discuss whatever the fuck we want about TF2 because let's face it, the game is fucking fun.
>In regards to engineers guns hurting them
There are extremely rare situations it pisses me off, but I'm going to have to say it should be on. It lets other classes try and be really smart and fuck you over with your own gun and it makes engineers have to pay attention to something. I don't think it's such a negative towards the class that it is making them significantly weaker than they should be.

All classes explosives hurt themselves even though there is no friendly fire. I don't think the engineer is getting screwed over or anything.

>Replying to discussion about Pryos sex
You know let's just not talk about whether Pyro is male or female. I think Pyro has some faggy little purse in their locker in the respawns of some maps. Then you've got that huge bulge in their pants though. They kind of "mmph" in a deeper ton. I think I've heard the Pyro get talked about that ist could be a female and that it also could be a male, both by Valve I mean.

I guess people will debate and discuss what they want to discuss however it just seems pointless and annoying. You just can't prove either side incorrect because there is no answer. Let's save the discussion for real tactics and what not. The speculation of the Pyro and people coming in and 'correcting' others when they say it's a he or whatever is annoying.

>>33108452
Your obvious tip when I had just said let's not say basic shit ya' know, I see what ya did there. Still boring and unfunny. So let's hear some real tips if you know any :)

>Pyro General Discussion
If anything the regular flamethrower is the better weapon. There's just more you can do with it and the more flexible your class the better. Backburner pyros are pretty much supposed to ambush and that's it, a regular flamethrower can do that, just not as well and can also do a lot of different things depending on the situation. Now this is about my 18th time saying it, but the Backburner is still useful to throw into the mix somtimes because it simply melts a team a lot faster than the regular flamer.

If you're looking to actually get some reward for spending time playing Pyro, you know to work on some skills and improve them, play with the air blast thrower. It will let you learn and improve a bunch of ways. If you can play as a good Pyro with regular thrower you will be able to play with Backburner, just not vice versa.

Both players should learn how to ambush the other team, but the Backburner user won't have all the practice with the air blast.

When ever I join a server I am forced to join the team that is down one man, which is usually blue. The reason why blu was down a man is because he quit when he realized his team was shit and was being demolished by red. Then I have a choice:
1) Stick around and lose miserably
2) Jump out and look for a better server

Also, I hate reserve slots. What's the point? All they do is fuck up my scan for servers that aren't full.
If you see a server that says 30/32 or 26/28, skip right past them because they are already full. And there's going to be alot of them.

LOOK CLOSLEY AT SNOIPAH'S FACE

HE'S GOT THE SCAR FROM THE MEET THE SPY VIDEO

>>33108668
I mean in-game, of course

>>33108603
Never, ever, start playing the game as a spy. Start with something simple and easy, like pyro, soldier, engineer, or demoman. The abundance of health and firepower will make for an enjoyable experience your first time through. As you get to learn the maps and the game's mechanics, you will wander over to the more advanced classes. Whatever anyone says, don't start as a medic.

>>33108639
Reserved slots are for little fags or something to make sure they can get into their little faggy pub that is the only place they ever play and build up a little faggy community of friends or something. I don't get it either.

It's fucking annoying when a server isn't full apparently 28/30, but you can't fucking join because the two slots are listed as reserve.

Not to fucking mention if you're playing a game and some douche with a reserve slot rolls up into the server and you get fucking booted out of no where for em.

Also, beware of servers with team switch. While in theory, team switch prevents the match from being imbalanced, you will find that the only times team switching occurs is after you blast a hole in the enemy defense, or right before the match ends in your favor. Watch your once-teammates roll right through you with no discretion afterward.

Beware of servers tagged as newbie friendly or newbies only. These are always full of expert or Professional players with something to prove hoping to get some easy kills. This of course, leads to neck-and-neck matches with skilled players on both teams fighting for their lives and wondering why the enemy team isn't letting them spawn camp.

>>33109203
That sounds more fun than anything.

If you're a pyro and are spy checking, be sure to check around snipers too.

Best place to hide stickies is above doors. Hard to notice and if an uppity pyro tries to get them they'll just fall on him.

As a soldier always try to aim your rockets so they hit the ground at some point. Splash damage is better than no damage.

A good strategy for engineers setting up is to stand directly behind your sentry, turn around, and drop the dispenser. Stay crouched during skirmishes and spies will have some trouble reaching you while you endlessly repair your shit

Engy: TELEPORTERS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT MACHINE YOU HAVE

Scout: If you want to win on payload, don't be afraid to die. Also, payload is one of the few times Bonk can be useful. Use it to run by sentry nests and use the cart as cover for when you slow down. If you hold the cart long enough, you may get your bonk replenished offering an escape from a cart ambush.

>>33109524
THIS!

A lot of engineers dont realize the importance of the teleporter. HINT: It helps get your team closer to the action quicker, which is invaluable in capture point maps. Sometimes I switch to engineer myself just to get a working teleport up.

Shut the fuck up Xokks.

I find that disguising as a friendly pyro while walking to the enemy areas makes enemy spies around you flip their shit and try to take you down or avoid you completely.

Spies: If you time your melee hit right behind someone far away, you will hit their backs with no special animation, that takes a few seconds, but you will still get an instant kill.
Learning to do this will save your life in certain occasions.

I love the air blast with pyro. the upgrades (backburner and flare pistol) are pretty much fucking useless

>>33109951
Not entirely, the flare gun is good for igniting enemies from afar

>>33109524
>>33109800
Not when your defending the last point or the flag.

As a Scout run around hitting things with your bat. You'll be rolling in points by the end of the match!

>>33109951

Flaregun is great for anything save pyros. They annoy people at long range (especially snipers since it can mess with their aiming) and generally most people panic when they're on fire.

The mini crits you can get don't hurt either

>>33110041

Hurr. This obviously won't apply in all circumstances.

>>33109392
The engineer strategy only works if the dispenser you put up behind you is flush with a wall or the enemy has stupid spies. A more skilled spy will duck behind the dispenser let the sentry kill the engineer. To prevent this from happening, build your dispenser with no gap between it and the sentry gun and back up into a wall. Put yourself in the corner and watch enemy spies stab you unsuccessfully.

>>33110017
you should explain the obvious again

i always laugh at pyros trying to flaregun me because they are just easy headshots. flaregun is probably the easiest thing to dodge in the entire game.

Medics: Heal everyone, constantly, don't stick to one person. Always be on the move and always look around, Your med gun means you dont have to be facing forward while you heal someone. Don't be afraid to attack spies if you see any, they always assume a medic is harmless, but don't get too far away.

>>33110132

I would think rockets are. Flares arc so you can fire them over obstacles to hit other people easily (with proper aiming of course). Even better is if you're firing at an area above you

When you unlock the Dead Ringer as a Spy, it should be your new best friend.

1. Disguise as a teammate when you spawn.
2. Run toward the objective with the Dead Ringer activated
3. If you get "killed", you go invisible, so now it's time to disguise as the enemy and get ready to sap/backstab.
4. If you "survive", then help your team with the objective, if you get killed while doing that, then go to step 3. You can still do your objective and hold a disguise of a teammate. So push the cart, stand on the point, whatever.

That is another way for a spy to be credit to team.

Shotgun lets you kill enemy W+M1 pyros without taking a single point of damage. It lets you kill soldiers without them blowing both of you up. It lets you do something to that goddamn scout that is dancing around your flames and laughing. It helps you finish off that fucking blutsauger medic who thinks he made it to safety.

Flare gun annoys everyone. It might make a sniper run to get a health kit.

Xokks is so cute trying to look important and saying the basics of the basics and pretending it's advanced.

>>33110320
the most useless thing ever is a pyro with a flaregun

there is no excuse for having one equiped.

>>33110365

Protip: Stop holding down M1 then. The initial flame goes farther than a stready stream

>>33108945
It pisses me off more when I join a server, expecting there me to be near one of the last people, but it loads, then shows the MOTD briefly, then goes back to loading because it switched me to another server that has no one in it due to reserved slots. That is bullshit.

>>33110365
This, most snipers camp safely near a dispenser or their own spawn room. Flaregun is useful against less skilled players, as they will not know how to dodge or avoid the flares.

someone gift me TF2 on Steam NOW

>>33110488
I don't see how that invalidates anything said there.

If you want to play defense, consider switching to Pyro and hanging out with an Engineer.

* Dispenser will keep you fueled up.

* If a flame so much as touches a cloaked or disguised spy, he will be revealed and the sentry gun will go to town.

* If a Spy does get by and start sapping stuff, your flames give fantastic cover for the Engineer to repair his stuff without worrying so much about a backstab.

* If a Soldier or Demoman starts firing explosives at the equipment, air blast as much of it away as you can.

* If an Uber pair tries to break in, try to separate the link with an air blast. If that's not practical, you can at least try to push them around and away to waste their Uber time.

>>33110535
Shoulda bought it yourself, it was ten fucking bucks. Even a jobless, lazy cretin like me could afford it.

>>33110515
killing even a nub sniper with a flaregun is almost impossible. it has to have been their first fps for that to happen.

deal with the fact that the flare gun is just annoying and get over it.

>>33110443
Excuse me good sir?!

Pyros with a flaregun are credit to team! When you spawn, you should have your flaregun out. Like some others have said in this thread, being set on fire makes people panic. It will fuck snipers up (which are a real problem since the spy/sniper update), Heavies without Medics it's great for. If they do have a medic, set him on fire, he'll haev to go back for health.

>>33110443
Say that while you're running away while on fire. Then BAM! Mini crit with flare gun and you're dead.

Another Xokks thread. Hurhurhurhurhur

>>33110609
>* If a flame so much as touches a cloaked or disguised spy, he will be revealed and the sentry gun will go to town.

Uh, no. A sentry will only fire upon a Spy when he drops his disguise. However, the sentry will continue to fire even if he re-disguises, and the only way to get out of it is to get out of its range of vision. This includes cloaking.

>>33110654
now you just trollin

Can someone give me some tips on using the fucking Huntsman? I'm a decent rifle sniper, but I can't hit shit with this fucking bow. My arrows seem to move fucking slow and every enemy in front of me has moved before it hits. I'm only getting kills on people running straight at me and it's fucking pathetic.

inb4 stop sucking.

>>33110799
Anticipate and shoot, bro

>>33110799
Spam arrows in the general direction of the enemy. Works best in groups.

>>33110443
Shotgun = short/medium range.
Flamethrower = short range.
What if the guy runs while on fire? Not much you can do, shotgun does shitty damage if he's too far, obviously.
Flaregun is awesome for minicritting retreating enemies that are on fire. It was already pretty good before the mini crit thing, now i'm getting a lot of kills with it.
Also setting snipers and other people on fire from afar really helps.
Flamethrower + Flare + Axtinguisher = PRO setup.

Flareguns are terrible. Say you have a burning enemy and he is getting away, the shotgun is far more useful in this situation than the shitty slow flaregun.

And so what if get other people on fire, they'll just run to a health kit or a medic and it does so little damage to a heavy.

>>33110716
so youre relying on weak damage at a distance and then a critical shot on a second hit of the same person.

do you sit on servers with alot of afks at a distance out in the open?

>>33110716
Even if they were running away in a straight line in an open field with their backs turned as to not see the damn flare, the shotgun would still finish them off better.

>>33110944
Then pull out your Axestinguisher and chase him! You'll be glad you did.

>>33111013
Pyro's don't run that fast.

Flaregun is better then minigun.

/thread

A teleporter, if you're not using it to move your team about for one reason or another, can also be a great early warning system for an Engineer. Drop the entrance or exit on the way to the place your sentry is covering. Few enemies can resist destroying an unguarded bit of Engy equipment. Then you know who is on the way and how to prep for them.

I feel angry the fact that I have to pay 30 bucks...

>>33110917
This right here, if you wanted to pick enemies off at a distance, use your rifle. Huntsman is designed to let you get in medium range, preferably when your team is on the final cap (on either red or blu, really) and just launch arrows in their general direction. You don't even need to anticipate and shoot, just shooting into the mob will guarantee a kill.

>>33111124
I never seen enough engis using dispensers and SGs as blocking tools also.

For example in 2fort you can totally shut down enemy spys getting to your battlements by putting a dispenser in the doorway leading to battlements.

Build a sentry that you can only reach by going up one set of stairs.

Build a teleporter entrance at the top of these stairs, so that you have to jump to get over it.

Build a teleporter exit far away.

Enjoy teleporting spies unable to access your sentry.

>>33111234
30? Last I checked it was 20.
Better yet, just wait till the next update, you'll be able to get it for practically free.

>>33111342

I want the orange box

The Heavy is a vital class.

>>33111337
I am SO doing this.

>>33111337

Won't any remotely intelligent Spy sap the Teleporter exit, thus making it a one-trick deal?

>implying there are intelligent spies

>>33111762
>spies
>intelligent
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Here's a must watch for everyone, the video is perhaps getting a little over played by now, but I'm sure some of you still haven't seen it:

Meet The PROro:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndZoP4yctqA

>>33109203
Heh. I totally goto those servers! But not really to just pwn noobs and inflate my ego, let's be serious I can totally do that on any server.

I end up there because they usually have regular respawns, a decent amount of players and decent maps.

More popular pubs that aren't listed as 'noob' servers usually have some shitty fast respawn or something, which is ironic since fast respawn is for noobs.

>>33109846
>Shut the fuck up Xokks.
That's not nice. Why are you saying that?

>>33109951
>the upgrades (backburner and flare pistol) are pretty much fucking useless
Going to have to disagree with ya there fellow. Now I would like to be able to blindly advocate use of the air blasting thrower only so that we can actually get some skilled fucking pyros, but unfortunately the backburner has superior melting skills when ambushing from behind.

Now, what you need to do is pick up the flare gun. The flare gun is much more awesome. It was pretty decent before hand, but now with the mini crits it does when the personally is already set on fire it is perhaps very close, if not, a DIRECT UPGRADE. Yea I said it! It's just really good what not.

On 2fort as an engi, set up teleporters in known spy hiding places as sap bait. You lose nothing of value while being alerted to the presence of a spy.

>>33112196
Just play a pyro on 2fort if you want to win.

>>33112196
make those dispensers, 25 metal can be alot when you're not in your own base.

Wait, when did the Flare gun get an upgrade and what is it?

Oh look, another TF2 thread filled with this fags asslong tips about nothing, how original.