>growth is not based on experience and that it will work on a different system entirely
what?

>a solution that will let you transfer your character's names from FFXI to FFXIV.'

Like... enter the same name?

From: http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/

- FF14 project (coded name : rapture) was started 4 years old. At that time, it might be called FF15.. if SE is working on FF13, and FF14 for the offline version of FF series.

- Eorzea. is a continent / place name. The world will be called ハイデリン (HADELN) .

- They will add in some Science Fiction element like those in FF10 and FF13 on this game. It will be a total different type of fantasy compare to FF11.

- It will use Square Enix ID Account system as to replace the pol system. 30 days unit payment system.

- No selling in-game item planned.

- All races from FF11 will be included in FF14. We cant tell you got other new races or not. at this moment.

- Regarding job system., the keyword is [ Weapon ] . To enrich our new job system, we will put in weapon elements into it.

- There will be High Level job system. <my mistake: after browsing through 3 websites, it is confirmed that wont have high level job system.>

- There wont be experience point level system on FF14. (updated, my mistake) <my thought: I still cannot understand this. some people said it might be Skill Point system?? >

- We are thinking to have character names (from FF11) transfer service.

- Battle system will be focusing more on real time. Timing will be a very important factor.

- The selling point for FF14 is [ Growth] ..

- All song will be composed by Nobuo Uematsu. 5.1ch sound.

>>32225393
FFII style maybe?

>growth is not based on experience and that it will work on a different system entirely

>>32225445


- The leviathan like monster will have a important role.

- The field that cast by blm ? we saw on the trailer, will be as a part of the battle system too.

- Many Vs Many.. = Mob will be party to fight the player too.

- PC spec requirement will be quite high.

- Server max population will be 5- 6000 players.

- Service will be available on 2010. Beta test wont be as long as WOW where they have their beta test like 9 months.

- It might have Full voice.

- There will be a better system then field of valor. For example, i login today, i can do this. i login tomorrow, i can do that.. etc..

- No PVP system.

- Got Time element, such as four season.

- They want to make a benchmark for FF14.

- They are still discussing with MS , on working for a 360 Release.

won't be out in 2010 then.

Weapon hints:

How important are the weapons?
Weapons are very important and have a heavy influence on your character and how they succeed in the game world. Square Enix says to look closely at the official FFXIV logo for hints and hidden meanings about how the game will work.

What hidden meanings?
Square Enix told us that when it approached Amano to do the logo art for FFXIV, that weapons were very important and to think of the concept of a "wheel." Specifically, a wheel of adventurers that has their weapon in front of them and an exposed backside -- which leaves each adventurer to rely heavily on their comrades and their friends. Let the speculation begin.

Anything else about the weapons?
The team let slip to us that choosing weapons for specific tasks one day versus another could affect how your character develops.


Maybe a system like Final Fantasy Tactics?

How important are the weapons?
Weapons are very important and have a heavy influence on your character and how they succeed in the game world. Square Enix says to look closely at the official FFXIV logo for hints and hidden meanings about how the game will work.

I'm just cp'ing random shit I found from around the internet.

"Character growth is a key word for FF14, and we will focus more on allowing the character to grow outside of only battles. For instance, the character may grow through the story."

"One thing we liked a lot about FF11 is the job system. This allowed players to try a lot of different things. We will be bringing this back and expanding on it."

"A problem with FF11 was its focus on party play. Sometimes players do not have time to play with a party. This game will have more solo content so players will not have to wait to play."

"[On PlayOnline] We want FF11 and FF14 communities to be connected, and we decided that PlayOnline was not the way to do that. This is something we're working on."

"Job system is very different. It depends on how the character decides to develop on that particular day, and they will choose a specific weapon to do that."

"One of the goals of FF14 is to be tailored for everyone, regardless of how much time they have to play or how they choose to play."

PAYMENT SYSTEM?

WORLD OF FINAL FANTASYCRAFT 14

FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>32225445
>30 days unit payment system

False, its been said officially that it will be f2p.

>Square Enix is cagey about how characters advance, but it has confirmed with IGN that growth is not based on experience and that it will work on a different system entirely

NEVER HEARD THAT BEFORE!!
believe it when i see it

>growth is not based on experience and that it will work on a different system entirely

I am intrigued

>>32225650
No the fuck it hasn't.
In the press conference yesterday they said payment options are TBD.

>Final Fantasy

>>32225648

Hurrrrr, payment for an MMO? How outrageous.

>>32225650
If it's free to play the means it's micropayments. If that's the case, I won't be playing.

BUT WILL IT BE AVAILABLE IS SPANISH?!?!?!

wow, this is actually sounding pretty damn incredible, and with a top notch team working on it, it might actually happen

guess we'll have to wait and see, but i'm definitely keeping my eye on this

Weapons actually help develop your character?

FUCK YEAR I WON'T HAVE TO PLAY A WARRIOR WITH NOTHING BUT A FUCKING BORING AXE NOW.

FINAL MONSTER HUNTER FANTASY

Was the FFXI beta open for people outside of Japan?
I'm really looking forward to this game.

>>32225445
good to know that the elitist folks from alla are already on this

ffffff I hate that site

>>32225759

Until the players figure out that axes give warriors the most useful stat boosts and no one plays warrior without axe any more.

>not EXP system
If they use the FF2 system, lord help me I'll shit myself. Out of surprise and happiness.

>>32225740
Pretty sure they're gunna opt for a monthly payment system.

>>32225759
>Axe
>Boring

you take that back!

>>32225808
And that's when I will an hero.

The game also will even more grind-tastic!

>>32225519
Might be interesting to see positional damage differences (similiar to how WoW you can parry attacks from in front). Also tying weapon skills/proficiencies to professions would be neat; Being a smithy would mean you spend a lot of time with a hammer, leading to better hammer skill - etc.

The best thing is that all the old rules and conventions will be thrown out of the window.

Shit tier samurai and god tier puppetmaster, here I come! Perhaps.

>>32225823
I hope so. I can see micropayments for stuff like costumes; superficial stuff.

>>32225778 FINAL MONSTER HUNTER FANTASY
That's something I can look forward to.

>It is produced by Hiromichi Tanaka (Final Fantasy I, II, III, and IX)

Thats it this game is the Official WoW killer

"Free to play" = Subsidized with shitty "buy your gear here shops" = Unbalanced as shit.

Unless you're twelve years old or living out of a fucking can you should be able to afford $15 a month for a game you enjoy (and if you don't, don't fucking play then).

>>32225740

Yeah fuck getting killed a hundred times per day by rich people who can drop the cash on expensive high-level weapons and armor. I tried that once already in another game. The game is totally unbalanced and one-sided to where free players don't stand a chance against "donors" as they're called.

>FINAL MONSTER HUNTER FANTASY

Except its going to be GOOD

no pvp system? ;_; oh well

We need the goddamn Spanish translation.

>They will add in some Science Fiction element like those in FF10 and FF13 on this game. It will be a total different type of fantasy compare to FF11.

Ooh, lost some interest there.

>'Square Enix revealed to IGN that Uematsu will be doing all the music for Final Fantasy XIV and that it will be composed in a range of different styles and genres.'

Ouch, now I'm really starting to get skeptical about this game.

I'll probably just stick to XI.

>>32225902

Was Samurai a bad class to use?
When I was playing FF11 it was a pretty okay group.

>>32226027

What the fuck is wrong with Uematsu, you bastard?

>>32225409
Simple logic has no place here.

>All song will be composed by Nobuo Uematsu. 5.1ch sound.

>>32226008
BR?

>>32226059
Have you even listened to XI's soundtrack? I'd much rather the same guy do the music.

And on a general music/composer note, I think Hitoshi Sakimoto is better than Uematsu.

no pvp means this game wont stand a chance in hell against WoW

Combining FFXI and Monster Hunter, calling it right now. You aquire weapons and become proficient on that class of weapon, learn skills debending on what type of weapons and armor you use.

Weapons will give you attack skills, armors will give you support skills that could be active on cooldown or passive. Accesories could give you both depending on its use.

Weapons and armor could have skills for two archtypes of jobs, so if you are maining on of the jobs and subbing the other one, you aquire full skill points on the primery and half on secondary. This would make skilling up easier and complement a type of role that suits the classes weapon

i can haz mog mag?

>>32225759
should've used a fuckin great axe

I want to get hyped for this game, but I've seen far too many people getting burn with new MMOs that I'm going to wait until I try the beta myself before making a decision.

>>32226156
As long as they add Balista back in sometime, I'm happy.
That shit was AAAWWWEEESOOOOOMEEEE.

>>32225983

They won't have a micropayment system. They stated in the E3 "press conference" that it won't be free to play, period, and that they do expect there to be a monthly fee. Anyone who says otherwise goes to a shitty source.

>>32226133
Uematsu only did the intro and a couple of other tracks in FF-XI. That was the era in which Square "down-sized" him and only had him doing a few tracks off of FF-X and FF-XI, and with the exception of some remix CD's and live concerts, hasn't employed him since then. They wanted some younger people to do "younger" music to appeal to a younger demographic starting with FF X-2 on out.

>>32225650
what, no one ever said that

>>32226156
if they just focus on pve and make that really fucking good i wont care. wow can have its arena

>>32225674

u mad?

>>32226027

We already saw that there will be more machines in the debut trailer. It's not a big deal, and if the XI team is working on XIV (they are), I have pretty good faith that they'll create an interesting world.

Also, Uematsu consistently does good music.

>>32226240
>implying a broken game mechanic is awesome

Maybe if you're RDM or BLU..

>>32226167
except they said that they're keeping the job system and expanding it further.

It better not be as fucking hard to skill your weapons.

Capping greatsword on paladin = FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>>32226156 no pvp means this game wont stand a chance in hell against WoW
Who really cares?

As far as I'm concerned PvP is a crock of shit that entertains only the very simple minded, the kind of people who PvP all day and claim PvE is bad because it's scripted, repetative shit and they don't want to grind.

If FFXIV turns out to be good I don't want those people playing this game.

When is it coming out and when is the beta?
The game will come out in 2010, and after Final Fantasy XIII which is scheduled for spring of the same year. Beta plans are still being finalized, but that the plan is to have a longer beta period than that of FFXI (which had a beta of about 3-4 months).

>>32226320
>Capping GS on PLD instead of, you know. DRK.

>'the heavy team-play aspect of FF11 has been deemphasized, and now exploration and battle is said to be more balanced between solo and team play.'
YES THANK YOU SE
>NO PVP
AGHHHHHHHH WHY?!
NO SALE!

>'Square Enix is cagey about how characters advance, but it has confirmed with IGN that growth is not based on experience and that it will work on a different system entirely.'

No more grindan?

Yeah... consider me sold. I loved FFXI but ultimately could not spend the time required to get anywhere in endgame with it.

>>32226167
so you expect a combination of FFII and FFIX for character development?

>>32226156
I would rather they not turn my FF MMO into e-peen circle-jerk PVP bullshit.

I bet the experience system will be based on time in game. Say goodbye to what life you had. Lol.

FFXI did just fine without significant PvP, I'm sure FFXIV will carry that on well.

Fuck, now I'm looking forward to the missions and all that.

i was hoping for just a lil bit of PvP. i'd still buy it eh

>>32226412
Plenty of Grindan.
Tank a mob to get your HP Higher.
Use black magic to make your INT higher.
ATTACK TO MAKE YOUR STR HIGHER.
YES.

>>32226156
I sort of agree. Does FFXI still do that zone control thing.

>>32226412
Grinding in a different way.

I bet your weapon skill level will be like your level. Or at least be a big part.

Out for 360, PS3 and Windows.

Cross format play?

Begun, the console wars have....

>>32226528
>360 release
>stubborn Microsoft

>There wont be experience point level system on FF14
Elder Scrolls games, Darkfall, Mortal Online. I think it'll be like these games (which is a positive thing)

>>32226311

Did I say they would remove the job system. The way MH works is that there are only 2 jobs, blademaster and gunner. But depending on the type of Weapon you choose, your play style is very different. Instead of having two jobs like they might have 5 or 8 or more and depending on the weapon you use, your style of gaming changes

>>32226376

Who the fuck plays DRK

Like you ever use GS anyways, have fun being your ls's kracken bitch for meree burns

>>32226571

Words don't mean what you think they mean.

Guys. FFXI pvp was so unbalanced and bullshit you don't WANT it in FFXIV, seriously. Most jobs couldn't do shit to be worth a damn at all, if you weren't RDM or BLU you basically got owned.

>>32226634
MNK was the pvp king

PvP is for fags and whiny children. Nobody with half a brain will want that in FFXI.

Hagun Samurai was melee godly tier

>>32226634
this
no whm in any FF game would make a decent pvp'er

unless they had a ton of haste and /nin, maybe they could melee a little bit, still not much spike dmg

>>32226606
Microsoft is always rather stubborn about things on their proprietary network.

>>32226744
Sorry, meant to type FFXIV.

by growth do they mean level advancing or growing from a child to an adult?

pvp sucks.

Wait, where was it said that it was coming to 360?

>>32226760
I've out-damaged a THF/NIN on WHM/NIN...

>>32226717
I remember one time during Ballista. Me and this other MNK were boosting ourselves up during the pre-battle phase, and when we met the other team, we both chi-blasted the same guy and killed him right off the bat.
Shit was hilarious.
Loved Ballista. I don't care how unbalanced that shit was, it was fun.

>>32226744

PvE only is for insecure fags who fear to die in an MMORPG.

>>32226717
gravity > nuke to fuck

You are now dead.

>>32226848
Congratulations. You outdamaged a job that can't even deal damage! :D

I'm so excited... I just hope my PC can run it.

>>32226801
PVP can be fun if there's balance and the fights last longer than ten seconds.

So forget games like Lineage 2 if you hate PVP.

>>32226848
S'not like THF/NIN is actually known for its damage output.

>>32226848
that's not saying much, thf hit for 0 on hnms
w/o sa ta, it's silly to use a dagger

>>32226864
Agreed

>>32226883
My pee ess triporru can run it.

>>32226864

Want to play some real PVP? Go play EVE friend, where PVP actually has meaning, and you lose far more than just running back to your corpse or some armor endurance.

Your ship gets blown up there, say good buy to some hard earn ISK

>>32226864
PvE is what an MMORPG is all about dumbass. What do you do in every other type of RPG? Fucking PvP fags are so fucking lame. PvP is the cancer that is killing MMOs.

this news brings me a warm fuzzy feeling. i love it, but at the same time i hate it knowing my life is gone come 2010.

>>32226983
I'll probably die of a heart attack by the end of 2009. What's your story?

>>32226946
>caner killing whatever

go back to /b/

>>32226886
Fucking HATE Lineage 2. You're doing a raid boss, almost got him dead to get a RB jewel, and another team comes along and PK's your entire party because you're too busy trying to not get killed by the RB, and steals your RB jewel.

>>32226864
you must've never played FFXI, where dying loses you xp and possibly a level

EVERYBODY FEARED DEATH

it certainly wasn't a mere annoyance like it is in WoW

Now go run your ass across Qufim to meet your xp party, at night time.

>>32227010
Hey summer /v/.

>>32226864
Ok so, you're running around as a newer low level guy, suddenly some low life faggot who's max level comes and oneshots you, then you come back and you don't see him and you think you're safe... but no, he comes out of nowhere and does the same thing. For hours. and there's no where else for you to level, or you need to do this particular quest in that area.

PvP is bullshit if that can happen. If it's all duel based or some kind of blocking from that faggotry for max level vs low-mid level then it's okay.

OH FUCK I WANT THIS SO MUCH!!!!!

Here, a pictrue of my SAM =)

>>32226907
>>32226906
I was just sayin'... ya know? Don't underestimate Dancing Edge though.

>>32227047
/shout (Raise) (Can I have it?) Jewface <pos>

>>32227047
What happens if I'm not an idiot and have silent oils?

>"[On PlayOnline] We want FF11 and FF14 communities to be connected, and we decided that PlayOnline was not the way to do that. This is something we're working on."

So they still have plans for FFXI...This could get interesting...

>>32227047

Big fucking deal, you lose 1000 exp which takes five minutes to get back in a party.

And deleveling only matters if you equipped a new piece of gear for that level and stupidly sold the old one before getting an exp buffer.

>>32227047
As a 20WHM, I had sneak my first time in Qufim. :3

>>32227093
i liked the PvP system warhammer online has because it does away with that bullshit mostly.

>>32227093

FUCKING KOREANS!!! THIS IS WHY KOREANS SHOULD BE BANNED FROM MMO'S!!!!!!

>>32227149
>1000 exp
no, it's actually a lot more when you're higher in level
>takes five minutes to get back in a party.
dohoho, 10-15 minutes if you're lucky enough to find a party that doesn't disband or get you killed again.

>>32227047
>Now go run your ass across Qufim to meet your xp party, at night time.

Oh jesus. The worst part is when you're running, and you think you got away without aggro. And then you hear that horrid sounds that those Bogy's make, signaling they just hit attack mode. Then you press your fucking keypad as hard as it can go and pray you make it to the tower.

>>32227095
>4/5 AF
>no haub

Go farm for a haub man, you'll really love it.
You could get o.kotes too from mee deggi the faggot
republic subligar maybe, doesn't matter much.
Could also get uhh.. those lvl 25 ish kyahan with attack

>>32226396
>AGHHHHHHHH WHY?!

Because PVP in a PVE game doesn't work. Not even Blizzard could get it to work.

>>32226328

Very good post, sir.

>>32227215
>no, it's actually a lot more when you're higher in level

And at that point white mages get Raise 2 or 3.

>>32227222
only thing he needs is a haub, okote is overrated expensive/hard to camp shit.

>>32227201

Its still arcady PVP like wow, you dont lose anything when you die. PVP in EVE has consecuences, you lose hours of game time when you die if you are in a nice PVP ship ( you should know how to pick your fights so this doesn't happen) . You could loose weeks of game time if you lose a capital or months if you lose a super capital ship. Fleets of hundreds of pilots gather to shoot themselves up to defend or takeover 0.0 space, all while the carebears are in empire space mining roids

>>32226634

PLD/RDM was pretty damn good. Probably just below BLU in terms of PvP capability, but close enough that if the BLU made one small fuck up and you were on top of your game, you could beat him. RDM were fucking invincible.

>>32225802

>elitist
>alla

Alla is the main hub for the casual FFXI players, there are far better websites for information and elitism.

will they still have the weakened state after getting a raise?

will they up the refresh values and resting period?
waiting 5 minutes to get back full MP sucks, and only have refresh of 1mpp on the best end game equip, is silly.

Hnm camps, will there be something like this? I'm kinda divided on this. I did like camping somewhat, but I hated it too. Perhaps 3 kings that offer everyone in the zone something if killed. I don't know...

actually, pvp has had a pretty shitty effect on the classes in wow, making them all homogenized so they can all be viable and do everything to survive.

hopefully with just pve ffxiv will be able to have some more variety in class structure.

>>32227344
Eve tries to make the most basic things complicated as fuck.

>>32226328
>As far as I'm concerned PvP is a crock of shit that entertains only the very simple minded, the kind of people who PvP all day and claim PvE is bad because it's scripted, repetative shit and they don't want to grind.

Pot, kettle, nigger, etc

Basically, you're a stupid hypocrite faggot

>>32227398

Dat be a mithra most likely.

>>dohoho, 10-15 minutes if you're lucky enough to find a party that doesn't disband or get you killed again.

oh man, starting to rage just remembering the parties that would kick you if you died while on the way to meet them... FFFFFFFFF

>>32227448
Zoom in, it has ears under those horns on the side of it's head. Not mithra.

>>32227441

It really doesn't once you get used to it, in about a month, you should know almost all of the things in the game. Just get inside a corp that teaches you how to play and you're set

>>32227403
I'm hoping they learn from their failures and make ALL ENDGAME INSTANCED.

>>32227342
hands have DEX+4 only
feet do NOTHING useful, unless you count enmity+5 for dying slightly more often if you have a complete garbage tank who's afk
head does nothing useful at all for tping in,
the legs are ok but not as good as republic subligar, no real need to change though.

/equip "head" "Myochin Kabuto"
/wait 1
/ja "meditate" <me>
/equip "head" "whatever"

Derp.

>>32227496

Hmmm, what if "Haideln" or whatever ends up being some kind of Vana'diel/Ivalice melting pot with races from both worlds?

>>32227481
if you die on the way to a party you:
suck
are a gimp
too cheap to buy oils/powders

I really fucking hope it's f2p on the PC version

>>32227047

Heard of Sneak or Silent Oils? Cheapskate.

>>32227215

You lose about 200xp per death if you get a raise 3 at level 75. Less than one kill. Hell, every single job, without exception could solo back 200xp pretty quickly.

>>32227567
That would be awesome. And I would hope for a Viera like race in that case.

>>32227597
You're fucking retarded if you think this shit is gonna be free to play

>>32227597
Dumbest post I've seen all week.

>>32227366
Yeah I forgot about pld/rdm, been ages since my server has even done ballista because NO ONE PLAYS IT because it SUCKS I couldn't remember.

>>32227567
Then they better have Viera, because guess what I'm fucking choosing if they do.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE F2P OR MICRO TRANSACTIONS FUCKING MORONS

ONLY SHITTY KOREANS DO THIS KIND OF SHIT

>>32227567
I would come buckets

>>32227706

Bangaa?

I loved FFXI - it was the first MMO I played and I met a lot of people with it (my wife included - yeah yeah, BEGIN FLAMING AND DISBELEIF).

Anyway, this new info has me very interested. They definately needed to get rid of the heavy group focus that FFXI had because that just wont fly these days in the age of WoW.

I'm looking forward to how many "jobs" or whatever you want to call them now are going to be available...

HD Mithra asses? I really fucking hope Mithra don't make a return...

>>32227443 Basically, you're a stupid hypocrite faggot
Not exactly. PvP-fags claim PvE is repetative shit because they don't know any better, even though they do the same thing all day. The difference is that in PvE you work together in a group and actually talk to different people a bit, as opposed to PvP where communication is limited to retarded insults and team work doesn't exist.

parties are fun, soloing is boring. I don't mind soloing being available, partying just needs to remain better overall.

Hoping they bring back puppetmaster.

Hoping automatons won't be made of wet paper this time.

I hope you can jump in this one. Or at least climb those annoying mountains or foot high areas that for some reason you were too retarded to step over in FFXI.

>>32227800
They will, probably because 90% of mithras are guys, the rest are promiscuous girls.

>>32227742
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-

How did you know I'd make a Bangaa DRG?

>>32227809
>Not exactly

Yes, exactly, 100%, and the rest of your stupid fucking post doesn't refute that point, IT EMPHASIZES IT.

>>32227850

Ohhh, remember that rock in Qufim's tunnel that's like a full meter away from the wall, yet you can't walk between them and have to get into a Dancing Weapon's aggro range instead?

Good idea for them to remove the experience leveling system in lieu of another, but allow character transfer. All the items you transfer will probably either be trash, have minor stat boosts, or be lost upon creation, or something. At least, that's what would make sense.

Private servers FTW. Only there can you be so insanely over-powered that you can solo epic raid bosses. This is a screenie of me from a Lineage private server.

>>32227800

Haven't they already confirmed that all five races will be back again?

Can someone please explain "Growth" to me?

Is it level advancement or growing from a child to an adult?

>>32227946
I dont see how they could make shit like ares's curiass trash though.

>>32227800

>>32227800

Look at the fucking OP pic. There's a mithra right next to the elvaan on the right.

>>32227907 Yes, exactly
Nice persuasive argument you've got there. You really proved me wrong.

This is amazing. I can't wait to play my first MMO.

>>32227933
I hated that fucking rock.

>"Job system is very different. It depends on how the character decides to develop on that particular day, and they will choose a specific weapon to do that."

Sounds like a Runescape-style system to me. Who knows, it could work

>No PVP planned
Fuck you SE :(

>>32228029

Hold on, let me just hack into SE's computer network to find out.

They better keep Level Sync in XIV.

>>32227933
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>>32228058
Considering your entire counter argument was basically "NUH UH" followed by two lines of you indulging in the same hypocritical nonsense that you got nailed for already, I don't have to make any argument whatsoever.

You've made it for me.

Remember, they don't have to outright kill group playing - they just need to make it so that soloing is more friendly and a viable option.

And no - "soloing" in FFXI isn't anywhere near that point. Like they said, you should be able to log in, play for less than an hour and be able to accomplish something meaningful.

On the flipside of the coin, you can't really level in groups in WoW outside of instancing, and even then you can gain EXP faster with solo play. If FFXIV makes it so you can EXP in groups of two, three, or five players with little penalty, but also allow soloers to succeed as well that would be amazing. It would actually be a big step forwards for all MMOs, as most just use one paradigm or the other.

>>32227946

Transfer character names. Not characters. Basically, you get to reserve your name in case someone else takes it.

>>32228079
I'm loving this. PvP babies go back to WoW. Leave the real MMOs to us.

>>32228044
Thank fucking God they look so boyish.

>>32228174
Thats probably a manthra.

>>32228044

Those monsters...

Promyvion confirmed for FFXIV, FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

oh my god, solo play, yes!
I am actually interested now

>>32227594
>>32227604

yes because you knew everything about the game right when you started and had millions of gil to play with

>>32228284
I always buy at least $300 worth of game currency when I start an MMO up.

>>32227850
>>32227850
>>32227850
>>32227850
>>32227850
>>32227850
Fucking this. La Thiene Platue (is that what it was called?) was a fucking bother to travel.

>>32228284
Back in 2004, you had this excuse.

Now? What are you stupid? Sure getting gil is hard, but shelling out 8k for silent oils isn't going to break the bank. If it does, you're really doing it wrong.

I'm glad they're using something other than playonline but i hope they keep the music you get when you open it.
I love that music.

>>32228358
A fool and his money are soon parted

>>32228363
You are now remembering ordelle's caves. Manually.

>>32225802 alla elitist

>>32228391
You can extract the BGW file and play it in winamp.

Also, try installing POL 1.0 and lol at the crazy music

>>32228376
Oh jeez a stack is 8k now?
Fucking shit.

>>32228400
Why is it foolish to spend money on something you like? Especially if you have as much money as I do. $300 is nothing to me.

>>32228284

You should have learnt how to dodge mobs by getting to Jeuno. If you can make it to Jeuno, then there is no reason for you to aggro mobs again in the game.

No PVP?

Fuck. Yes.

If it's one thing I hate it's elitist PVP dicks. PVP will never be balanced nor any good in RPGs. I like my MMOs with PVE only, thank you.

>>32228160
>Real MMOs
You're a fucking idiot. PvP should be so much more to MMOs. Without it there's absolutely no sense of competition, no versatility in the game, no ambition to get fucking stronger. Unless you're psychologically stunted you'll see that beating another actual player is infinitely more exciting than your "grind, grind, buy stuff, brag" idea of an idyllic MMO.

PvP is where the community really flourishes. Yes there'll the immature fucker who'll piss you off after killing you but it's also the most social aspect of the game, and it's damn good (or are you a fan of "Kill x of y"?

>>32228443
YAAAAEEEYAAAAEEYAAEEEEEE
BOOOOOOOOOOOIYYYYYEEEEYEEEEEEEEYEEEEEEEEE

>>32228448

When I played, it fluctuated from 8 to 10k. Occasionally you'd see it dip to 4k or something reasonable like that.

Also, crafting better not be shit in this game.

>>32228508
Because you, specifically, are a fool.

Also, a tool, but that's a different matter altogether.

>>32228448
This is only on my server, and it varies from 4k-12k most of the time, but people settle for 8k usually.

Considering I can get 4k from a single hit on a pickaxe in zehrun mines, it's not really much.

>>32228515
/shout (Jeuno) (please) (guide) <me> (Reward) 2000.

>>32228508

Because it makes you an economy destroying faggot who doesn't want to play the game for what it is.

>>32228559 here

http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=4165&stack=1
Click cross server tab.

I played ffxi for 4 years. Never before was there a game that I was that addicted too. I fully expect the same exact thing with this game. I'll pay $20 a month if the servers never go down, and I'm not waisting 3 hours camping a NM for a CHANCE of a CHANCE to get an item.

I thought /v/ didn't like MMOs?

FFXIV (sequel to one of the grindiest games ever) announced and you fags keep making threads about it.

That said, I am shitting myself from excitement. Played FFXI at launch and I can't wait to experience that again. JUST MAKE IT LESS GRINDY, SQUARE.

The only thing I care about at this point and time is how fucking awesome the music was in the E3 trailer.

If that turns out to be the main theme for whenever you start up the game, I'll eventually catch myself listening to it for 2 hours instead of playing the game.

>>32228443
I will thanks

>>32228537
If you think there's no competition in PvE you have never played FFXI. Get out faggot.

Beating another player is not an accomplishment in an MMO. MMO PvP is an unbalanced shitfest of faggotry.

PvE gives you plenty of motivation if done right. In FFXI you got stronger to see the epic boss fights and further the game's story. Yes, FFXI had an awesome fucking story with awesome fucking cutscenes. Piss off PvP fags, you're going to ruin this if SE listens to you dipshits.

>>32228574

You're missing some zeros there if you want someone to waste at least half an hour taking you to Jeuno when they can make 2k from a single teleport spell. And if you have those extra zeros, buy some fucking pots and powders.

TOR here, FF XIV sucks.

That is all.

>>32228639
Oh yeah, you need a .dll for winamp to play them. Just do a quick google of "BGW FFXI winamp" or something similar

>>32228574
/sh (Mithra) (Cooking) (Wife) (I'm Interested)
(Subtle Blow) (Job) (All Day)

>>32225476
>- No PVP system.

And it was actually starting to sound pretty awesome.

No thanks, I'll pass.

>>32228681

>Piss off PvP fags, you're going to ruin this if SE listens to you dipshits.

Seconded, go play KotOR or WoW2 if you want that kind of shitfest. ENJOI UR ARENA.

I hope you get almost all gear via quests, crafting, and buying. NM camping sucked and everyone knows it.

Has anyone played both XI and Guild Wars? How does the PvE compare? I ask because I'm interested in FFXIV, but if it's PvE only and not any better then Guild Wars, I guess I'll wait for Guild Wars 2.

>>32228726
Oh OK thanks

>>32228794
You should try reading the thread more often.

SE MMO + PVP = dogshit garbage barf or some other atrocious bullshit

NO PVP?

WTF?

So /v/ hates WoW and eats FFXI up?...typical weeaboo bullshit.

>>32228631
/v/ is Tsundere for games.

>>32228836
I've played both, Guild Wars is a lot more fun.

>>32228681
yeah, pvp doesn't show you much, other than that person either knows how to kill <class> or doesn't. PvP will never show you if that person knows about aggro, and how to survive against mobs 10 times stronger than you or anyone else around you.

fuck pvp, it's a weak argument for mmos

All the fucking retards who say this will be free to play need to check out the official site info page where it says "subscription fees: TBA" That doesn't mean none, that just fucking means they haven't decided what to charge yet.

and besides, in all FF games there are always far more options for crowd control than most other games, which makes planning strategies more interesting, as you can build on what you have.

dynamis, perfect example

and wow doesn't do 64 ppl in raids do they?

>>32228615
Ordered! I'll just go sit by that fountain in Lower Jeuno and play my DSi until they get the gil ready.