In this order

>Final Fantasy XIV
FUCK YEAH

>Online
Still yeah.

>Galka, Mithra, Tarutaru
OH FUCK YEAH

>Same art director as Vagrant Story and FFXII
Oneness with the universe.

I facepalmed at the fact that they would even bother trying this again.

I played XI for about 6 months, even though it was the worst game I had ever played, just for the hope that it would get better when I reached max level.
It didn't.

>>32156221

hope you like endless grinding for 50$ + 10 a month

FFXI? You mean that game with the mithras?

>>32156269
I do.

>>32156233

max level in 6 month?
bullshit.

>Mithra
The trailer didn't show a single one.

>>32156221

>Final Fantasy XIV
Why the fuck would they announce a XIV when XIII isn't done yet?

>Online
Oh. Well, that's it, I'm never buying another S-E game again.

>Galka, Mithra, Tarutaru
Re-using races from that shit game, XI? Are they really THAT pathetic?

>Same art director as Vagrant Story and FFXII
Wait, what? Those had the same art director? Then why does Vagrant Story look awesome while FFXII looks like shit?

>>32156327
Indeed.

Past FFXIbro here, played it from the first NA release to a couple years later.

Hopefully this one is better than XI. I loved the old one, but there were plenty of glaring mistakes SE made that made the game boring. The only problem I see with XIV is lolfaggyairships.

Kitties with titties.

Cats with tats.

I'm excited. I haven't played XI in a long while, but when I did I had a lot of fun with some of the people I met on there. I'm going to play this one.

>>32156390
I reached lv67 in 2004 in 6 months when I first played it.
I quit because shit sucked, though.

i don't mind if they keep everything but fixed all the PS2 LIMITATIONS bullshit, such as limited inventory space, fucking palette swaps on everything, and for the love of God make quests more rewarding.

>>32156390
Are you kidding? My friend who still plays gets a new character (one job) to max level every 3 months and then sells them online.

>>32156406
It does, you just have to watch for it. I'm sure another bro would be kind enough to show you a screencap.

>>32156406
yes it did. Look again.

>>32156406
I was at the end and it was casting some spell making a blue dome you fucktard

>>32156406

there's a mithra in the logo derp

>>32156363

well good!!!!!!!!

>>32156406

They're also in the logo and the concept art on the official website.

>>32156528

once you have ONE character at max level, shit will be mad easy to level other characters because you have a viable farm cow.

Getting your first character to max level is insanely hard (or was) when you had to level all your subjobs/get good gear/farm/actually get invites (which was the biggest problem for certain jobs)

>>32156423
cool story bro

Come back and complain about reusing old FF worlds when they're not busy remaking the earlier games and the fanbase isn't screaming for a FF7 remake.

>What was your reaction?
I came buckets.

FUCK YEAH YOU ARE THE BEST BOSS EVER

FFXI WITH UPDATES GRAPHICS!?!?!?!

And Nobou Umetsu with the music

:< I love you SE

also, a new online game with no rules to play by and new areas to explore

orgasm

>>32156686
An FFVII remake would be a fuckload better than an XI remake.

>>32156622
Stupid fuck get off 4chan

>>32156669
Nigga didn't play FFXI, You can level every single job in the game on one character.

Go back to WoW.

I was watching e3 on vent with a few people and as soon as i saw the hume that looked just like the ones in ffxi i fuckin knew what it was. needless to say i shrieked like a girl. everyone laughed.

So /v/ likes FFXIV yet tends to talk like The old Republic is going to bomb.

Silly /v/

>>32156423

TROLL. Pic related.

>>32156799
Go play WoW you fucking casual.

>>32156729
>also, a new online game with no rules to play by and new areas to explore

YES. I fucking LOVE, LOVE frontiering a new MMO world. You are the fucking front line, you pretty much write the fucking books on how people are going to play this game. Everything is new, everything is epic. Nothing it like the moment you realize what's around you. Fucking magical.

Former 72 loldrg from Bismarck here. SE has my attention. I don't own a PS3, but I'll be looking toward buying a new computer in the next few months, so I'll keep my eye on the site.

I hope they correct many of the complaints people had with FFXI as well as offer more races and face choices.

I hope they are able to redefine the MMORPG genre. FFXI is an extremely unique MMORPG that isn't about spamming but timing. You had setup up skill chains so your black mages could inflict extra damage on monsters and red mages could more accurately enfeeble (slow, poison, blind, paralyze) the monsters for longer periods of time.

Over the years, the game somewhat lost it's tactical approach and zerging became popular but Sony had the right idea and I'm sure they will not make any of the same mistakes they did with XI.

I can't wait.

Here's to hoping they include some new classes and easier solo capabilities.

As much as I hate WoW, they got the soloing right. It's why there are so many people playing it.

The official site shows what looks like Viera and some sort of bunny people, too.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/

>FINAL FANTASY XIV?

OH SHIT!

>ONLINE

BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH

HAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>32156912

/v/ isn't one entity. I'm looking forward to see how both turn out.

I promise you it will play almost exactly like Monster Hunter.

/v/, you can quote me on this.

There is no way it WON'T be a Monster Hunter clone.

Can't wait.

If FFXIV can take all the things that were good in XI (the wide class selection, the job/subjob system, the story, music, and beautiful settings) and can fix the parts that were bad (the grind, lack of solo play, mediocre PVP, Named Monster camping) they've got one hot fucking ticket.

Alot of people bitch about the forced grouping in FFXI, but after playing WoW for some time, I kind of prefer it. By forcing people to group, you are also forcing them to LEARN HOW TO PLAY THEIR FUCKING CLASS. If you haven't played WoW, you probably have no idea how many people get to the level cap without the slightest clue what to do in a group or raid. And level 80 is NOT the time to start learning.

I can't fucking wait.

hope it has gria and seeqs, though i doubt it will

Said it last thread, say it this thread.

Gambit system.

Please, please, pretty please.

>>32157118
>the grind, lack of solo play, mediocre PVP

Get to work on fixing these issues, you Elevens.

>>32156946
Discovering the story for the first time. Discovering the jobs for the first time. Pioneering the first fights against the epic monsters. The grit, the blood, the drama, the battles, the conquest.

FUCK YEAR!!

I just hope its faster paced and doesn't take 8billion years to find a party

I was hoping for Final Fantasy Ivalice Online =(

I hope they make combat a bit more challenging and interactive, when i leveled warrior i literally trolled 4chan and jacked off while checking every minute to see if i had enough TP to Rampage. So my list of hopes are

Much bigger inventory, with the whole gearswapping thing, i ended up with like 10-20 slots.

Shorter exp fights, fighting a goblin for 3 minutes each is only so fun

Make combat faster

Keep major boss fights the same amount of time, they should be long and epic

Keep the difficulty on bosses high, such as the CoP missions pre difficulty nerf,

Keep the diversity of classes, and slightly improve balance so all classes are viable in every leveling spot

Add excellent lower level content instead of dangling the carrot in front of our faces for fantastic end game content that turns into exp parties while using a few extra spells

I never played FF11, but I might try this one out. I wish it was Ivalice though. Bangaa Sky Pirate would be so awesome.

>japanese MMORPG
>lower amount of grind
Get real, guys.

Forced party > soloing

I had enough level 80 retards in WoW. Let's not make the same mistake in FFXI. Need the filter you know.

This game. I'm calling this RIGHT NOW, RIGHT FUCKING NOW. Is going to be next most epic fucking MMO everyone is going to play. Not only that, it's going to be an epic FF in general.
From the producer of FF1,2,3 and 11, the director of 9 and 11, art director of 12 and Vagrant Story, AND NOBUO MOTHERFUCKING UEMATSU KICKIN' OUT THE FUCKING TUNES. Epic my brethren, epic.

>>32157310
all mmos have grinds
even WoW
can you stop bringing this up?

FF11 was amazing I cant wait to see what they do this this.

>>32157222
Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
sssss

>>32157334
>AND NOBUO MOTHERFUCKING UEMATSU KICKIN' OUT THE FUCKING TUNES.

yeah let's make a big deal about the music guy, not the people actually making the game. jesus man.

>>32157310

every fucking RPG has grinds.

>>32157334
the art in 12 and Vagrant was super homosexual. Everything else is good though.

>>32157334
They put some heavy hitters on this. It's pretty surprising actually. Though from what I understand the team behind FFXI is pretty separate from the rest of Square period.

>>32157334
This will be the most epic FF game ever made and no one will play it because HURR DURR MMO.

Look forward to seeing the few bros who will tackle this new frontier though.

>>32157334
He can't top Zi'Tah, nor Ru'lude Gardens.

I hope this game doesn't suck like the last one but then again it is a final fantasy game

>>32157334
>Director of 9
9 had awful characters, story, and battle system. Yeeeeeah.

This game is setup in the same world but on the other side of their planet.

That blonde guy is the little boy you see in the beginning who loses his sister to an orc.

I played FFXI for a year before WoW came out.

I had fun, but I got fed up with game because I played a Dark Knight and would spend all my time in fucking Jueno looking for groups or trying to find groups.

The things I hated about the game:
Good luck soloing, lol
Good luck finding a party if you aren't a BRD or WHM/BLM, lol
Good luck breaking the level caps, lol
Good lucking getting the drops for your artifact armors, lol

Just... that game punished players. I knows its probably somewhat different now from all the patches, but I've never had a desire to start playing again.

Plus, I lost my account information and I'll be damned if I'm grinding back to Lv65 on DRK and 30 something in my other classes.

I hope this new one has less grinding, is faster paced, and soloing is actually viable.

Gonna be repping the new Weapon Skills for the new Samurai class.

Badass elvaan style

This looks fucking awful. Square Enix hoping another mediocre pile of trash is a cash cow for a year because they've slapped Final Fantasy on it.

Square Enix should just give up this garbage and go back to trying to innovate some console RPGs.

>>32157222
too bad jp player will beat you on that

>>32157484
What looks awful?
have you seen an in game screenshot?
no?
quit trolling

>>32157471
what? level cap is easy
that unless you don't have friend and don't know how to ask fir help

>>32157471
>WHM/BLM

Where's a link to this bullshit I'm hearing about the video shown was in-game rendered?

>>32157524
Worldwide release in 2010. They're planning a simultaneous roll out in NA, EU, and JP.

>>32157471
>I played FFXI for a year before WoW came out.

Then absolutely nothing you know about the game is true anymore.

>>32157647
Only the parts on the boat were in game. The parts with the Galka, Hume, and Mithra fighting in the storm when those ghost jelly fish appear and the giant fish serpent thing jumps out of the water.

Their clothes were dynamic. Fuck year finally dynamic armor!

how some people see it:
>final fantasy XI thread (with mithra picture at the OP)
how the other people see it
>mithra thread? mithra thread.

>>32157652
I mean even if the content was out at the same time
JP player will still beat you, just like the current ffxi content update

Why isn't FFXIV put in Ivalice?

I'm sorry, but Vana'diel, IMO, is the most uninteresting place with the most uninteresting races. I can't even explain how much the fucking Taru and Galka make me RAGE from them looking so fucking stupid.

Want a KICK ASS looking race? Fucking Bangaa are beastly

Want your new :3 :3 race thats also fucking SEXY? Vieras MOTHA FUCKA. Bunny ladies, FUCK YEAR

Want to be a part of a wise race that have high magic powers that look like they do? MOTHER FUCKING NO MOU.

HOLY SHIT TITTES that would be better

Ivalice > Vana'diSUCKMYCOCK

btw not trolling also dicks

>>32157471

hasneveractuallyplayedFFXI

The worst thing was the RMTers and the gay fucking limit break quests that were essentially just farming rare drops that require you to set-up a party willing to do this shit for hours/get a high level guy that would be nice enough to help you out.

>>32157428
I'm looking forward to it having the SAME niche audience as FFXI. It'll draw a few extra at launch, but I want all my FFXI bros here and no WoWfags.
>>32157453
I disagree, but respect your opinion. 9 is my favorite modern FF title. 7, 8, 10, 13 all going on this pseudo futuristic bullshit that, while new and refreshing, is just starting to get stale after so many attempts. 9 was the magic of the SNES titles brought to the modern world and I personally think it had better characters and music than the other PSX titles. Loved the art, as well.

>>32157593

It wasn't back when EVERYONE was Lv50-55 and trying to compete for drops to break the caps.

I played this game back in 2004-2005 dude, I don't know how that shit is now. All I know is the gameplay bores me now and I am not grinding back to high levels.

People who complain about being too hard to level should work on their social skills, or go back to WoW. Period. My playing time is when most Americans are asleep and I have to group with fucking Japanese players and their JP ONRY, and I play a Taru melee, no less, yet I managed to get to 75 under a year.

/v/ : WoWfags trolling FFXIfags.

>>32157715
Do you have a link to confirm this? Not trying to be a dick or anything, just want to get my facts straight.

>>32157724

lolneverevenplayedit

Vana'diel is the most complex and well-developed FF world ever designed, bar none.

if you've played one you've played them all.

that goes for jrpgs in general not just this one.

>>32157453

I AM RESPECTING YOUR OPINION

>>32157724
Because you kill YazMat
that the Ivalice creator himself..

>>32157791
This.

Most of /v/ hates XI because it isn't fucking easy mode.

>>32157752
it was easy in 2004-2005, ppl were always setting up alliances to do the limit breaks.

>>32157118
>f FFXIV can take all the things that were good in XI (the wide class selection, the job/subjob system, the story, music, and beautiful settings) and can fix the parts that were bad (the grind, lack of solo play, mediocre PVP, Named Monster camping) they've got one hot fucking ticket.

This

>>32157698
All those problems are fixed fixed fixed. Well, most of them.

Level sync, FoV and so much more fixed the game in so many ways.

FFXI was great, even though it had its flaws, I have a bunch of nice memories from it. I made friends, enemies, got my boyfriend in it and so on.

I do hope the next one is a little bit idfferent but even if they sell em the same old shit id still get it lol.

They need to accept add ons like WoW. The ffxi windower had some good shit you could dl. If they allowed this, and kept some things untouchable it would be fine.

They could try amking it less of a drag, keep a lot of ideas of how ffxi is right now, easy transportation, fov, and more easy ways to make exp solo.

Dear god dont completely delete the party system. Keep something like level sync, if you play all alone by yourself that fucking sucks.

whatever is coming, im looking forward to try it out, ALSO MITHRAAAASSSSSS

>>32157724

>Taru looking so fucking stupid

Shut your whore mouth!

strongest character such as myself need the strongest artist to draw

how bout some actionbars? atleast 5 slot plox

>>32157736
I don't know about the niche thing. It's possible that Sony's going to throw a lot at it. Back when FFXI debuted they were kind of meh about it, "look what we can do!" Now that exclusivity is a bigger deal Sony might throw it all in going, "we're the only console with FFXIII, FFvXIII, and the online FFXIV." Throw together some pretty video and what not.

I still find it funny that people think Square Enix is anything important. Sure they made great games 10 years ago, but barely any, if any, of the original team is left.

This game however, actually looks to be returning to the entire fantasy setting, and most importantly Vana'diel. The best on-going locations they have designed so far.

Goodbye Utsusemi?
GOODBYE UTSUSEMI?

Sup, current FFXI fag here, on/off player since they brought it to EU.

I am very excited. The trailer pretty much confirms that this will borrow very heavily from XI, since it's almost identical CGI.

I have no idea if it will make me leave my FFXI character completly, in fact thinking about it makes me uncomfitable. Still, if the game is that similiar, I guess it just means I have to start the same race/class all over.

Also I wonder if they are gonna allow server choice/transfer. Obviously all the end-game lot are gonna wanna get in there first, exploit the fuck out of everything and completly dominate, then get out of there and sell accounts within year 2. It's gotta be bannable leevl of epic, or nothing.

Best FF female char or best FF female char?

I hope the game plays ABSOLUTELY NOTHING like XI because that game was about as much fun as eating dirt... but I really liked Vana'diel... thus I'm still excited for XIV

For those of you basing your opinion of FFXIV on FFXI, stop.

It's not going to be FFXI with updated graphics. The developers have said that it will play "very differently" from FFXI, and given that development has been going on over 4 years now I doubt they were just updating graphics from FFXI to the Chrystal Tools engine.

We should form a /v/ linkshell when this launches.

Everyone here from Asura, Bahamut, and Shiva should start on the same server so we don't have all these problems with people deciding on a server.

Does no one have pics of the game with a resolution of 16000 x 16000?

>>32157724
Trying too hard.

Bangaa and Galka are equally bad ass.

Taru wins Nu Mou hands down, not even fucking kidding.

Mithra and Viera are on par, depends on what kind of furry you have a hard on for.

I've always really wanted to get into FFXI but I picked up the game too late, and at that point it just felt like the community was really exclusive and unfriendly towards newcomers. I'm hoping that I can catch one of the first waves of XIV so it'll be a new experience for everyone, not just me.
Can't wait for this game.

Graphical updates, much easier to acquire jobs be able to reach level cap by yourself and general fixing what FFXI had wrong with it.

and you have me on-board.

>>32157784
Just watch the video. There is a pretty significant change between the boat sequences and the pretty zone that looks like Tavnazia combined with Ru'Aun and Zi'Tah. It's also the only section they show enemies and action.

>>32157972
Sorry to inform you that it doesn't take place in Vanadiel, but will have the same races and some of the same themes, sort of like how Chocobos are both in FF IV and FF VI, yet those settings don't have anything to do with each other.

>>32157970
Sorry brah, but i can't agree with you. Pic related.

>>32157848

all jrpgs are constant easy mode. there is no gameplay.

>Most of /v/ hates XI because they never played it.

fixed.

FKN HALFBRED

>>32158101
XI is about 9000 times harder than anything WoW has to offer, shut your whore mouth.

>>32158055
It'd be humorous if the last FFXI story piece ends with the world being reset and says, "see you in FFXIV."

Man...this is coming out in 2010...its taken them 9 years to go from ff11 to ff14...fuck SE are slow

I shat bricks. I hope they have more jobs like Chemist, time mage, mimes, and Geomancer.

>>32157752
>>32157727
Jesus christ, only the first and the last limits involved any farming.

How much the last limit sucked depended on what job you chose.

ff11 was an amazing game I remember traveling around van diel and i made some cool ff11 friends who were americans living in Japan.

>>32157997
>>32157997
THIS

>>32158158
no, most of /v/ hates FFXI because it's a shitty grindfest. Easily one of, if not the worst MMO out there.

>>32157855

>it was easy in 2004-2005, ppl were always setting up alliances to do the limit breaks.

No.. because you had to COMPETE for them. Took me 3 weeks of grinding with parties for the Limit Break drops. Those fucking Skeletons.. god damn.

In one night.. we would get maybe 1 drop or 2 if we were really lucky, I didn't have a static party new people could come and go, someone else would get the drop and leave, I did this for 3 weeks until I finally got it. Was shit.

And wtf? when did this thread turn into "Lets bash and insult anyone who doesn't think FFXI is the best fucking MMO in the world or say they haven't played it!"

Jesus christ... I played this game for a year back before I started playing WoW. I know probably none of the things I experienced are true now, but that still doesn't make me want to play the damn game.

Like I said, I hope FF14 has less grinding, less restricting gameplay, more freedom.

I also agree with that other guy that putting the game in Ivalice would make it 10 times better. Playing as Bangaa, Viera, Seeq, Moogles, would be fucking bad-ass as hell.

I'll play along, should things go well,
We'll all be grouped with our own linkshell.

But at launch, early days, troubles will brew.
I suggest holding off for a month or two.

Should all fall apart and met with such scorn,
Know at least we'll be getting some fresh taru porn.

>>32158238
This is not FFT, those shit will never work since they are too fucking conditional.

>>32158375
we already proof many time that WoW is more grindfest than FFXI, but /v/ still suck blizzard cock
because it easy mode grindan

>>32158367
>1.38 MB

......

>>32157997
I feel sad that you did not include Odin bros. We have the highest population :(

>>32158047
This. It's a shame we all know they won't do it.

Here's hoping Kotor online turns out to be good.

>>32158425
On launch we should dictate a server to join, if we can at all. That way we don't all get scattered across the world.

what bothered me the most was the absolutely horrific costumer support. i had to make a fuckton of ids and handles and shit, and if i lost one of them (like the playonline id which they at some point changed without my permission ?_?), i was a goner and had to spend another $90 bucks on a new fucking game. AND YOU COULD ONLY HAVE ONE CHARACTER.

i played it a bit despite that. had some mage. not white, not black. red?. people told me i'd be awesome at higher levels, but i never got there. i remember that the world was beautiful, and it had potential, but it was just full of fucking asians and grinding. and while grinding was ok for a while, it just wasn't a good enough tool to build a fucking game on it.

that said, i really hope ffxiv is gonna be kickass. i always envisioned final fantasy mmo's when ultima online was the shit. i really hope this is it.

>>32158401
If you wanted DRK paper you should have went to fight Quadavs, people always want Beadeaux coffer keys for AFs instead of fighting shitty bones that do not have anything to do with AFs. WHMs, PLDs, BRDs get their AFs from Beadeaux coffer, you can easily get a tank a healer and a fucking BRD to sing Madringal all day while you skill the fuck up out of your other weapons.

>>32158096
Guess who got throw away from Dissidia roster for the favor of lady Shantotto?

Yeah. it your hundread years old loli elvaan.

>>32158425
Oh Shantoto, you lovable cunt.

...Except not really lovable, mostly just a cunt.

I play XI for far to long, 6 years or so and well I'll do it again with 14. BRING ON THE PAIN.

Also, I'm a masochist because I play(ed) FFXI.

>>32158401
>Like I said, I hope FF14 has less grinding, less restricting gameplay, more freedom.

I played FFXI for nearly 4 years, and I can't agree with this statement more.

Make solo EXP viable, put some fucking decent quests in the game, get rid of level capped shit.

Also bring back the old difficulty of CoP, that expansion before they nerfed it was the best.

>>32158654
Pretty sure they guy is talking about ancient papyrus, not a testimony.

>>32158682

I just hope you can drop down a three foot hill without bumping into a fucking invisible wall this time.

>>32158621
Uh, sorry to break a few things to you bro, but... you don't have to pay $90 dollars for a game. Maybe around expansion launch, but nowadays 20 dollars gets you the whole package. And uh, I dunno if you never looked at the extra content ID button, but you can have like 30 characters if you wanted. You hardly need more than one and a mule, though.

>>32158724
>Also bring back the old difficulty of CoP, that expansion before they nerfed it was the best.

This, so much.

How many here actually went through CoP and beat it before the mass nerfing of it?

Fuck airship BC, seriously.

Just give us real character customization, and a client that doesn't suck donkey dicks. Maybe a little more effort into balance too (fucking sam bullshit).

>>32158821
Cock goes where? God damn I'd totally hit that ;_;

>>32158899
1/1 everything before mass nerfing, seriously.

I used to play a WHM, but I quit because of RL and never went back. That said, I had an orgasm all over my computer screen when they announced this; I've always regretted quitting XI.

I'm hoping they can make soloing actually possible, and add more questing instead of just straight grinding. I hated having to wait for hours just to get a group; I just don't have that much time to waste anymore.

>>32158984
Lucky.

Went 1/9 on Airship and like 1/12 on the Bomb BC. Shit sucked, but was satisfying to beat.

should i play this for pc or should i get a ps3?

>>32158912
SAM always, ALWAYS pissed me off. I'd always wished there was a giant downside to SAM so I could laugh at all the weeaboos for playing it, but there really fucking isn't. SE just had to make the Japanese based classes THE MOST POWERFUL FORCES TO BE RECKONED WITH.

inb4 paying for ingame content

Knowing who works on the FFXI team I doubt they're going to copy WoW.

That said, I get this itch thinking that it's going to be a sort of Action paced MMORPG.

The game will suffer the same fate FFXI did; having to develop with a console in mind. This means we won't get much customization, nor would we get a decent mod community like PC exclusive MMOs get. They are developing the game with a controller in mind, which means keyboard+mouse controls will just feel awkward and gimmicky just like in FF11.

tldr: Enjoy your mediocre MMO being held back by the PS3.

>>32159164
PS3 if it plays just like FFXI.

I heard FFXI was FUCKTONS easier to navigate the menus and everything, and playing on the PC is just like FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFwtbbettercontrols

>>32159171

Like ninja? The "I am a worse tank than PLD and a worse DD than every other DD, the only reason I exist is being a useful subjob" job?

>soloing
FF was ALWAYS about the party.
I think they should think of way to do it like this:
Sure, you can do lots of stuff alone, but to do some epic quests and things you will still need a reliable party.

>>32159171
Dude, you clearly don't remember the days where Sam competed with Drg for least invited class outside of HNM skill chaining. Those were fucking hard days to play.

>>32159089
i actually finished bomb BC at the last second with 5 people, and a RNG who was using a level 30 bow since he didn't have level capped equipment and was using that for his other job.

>>32159171

I went on a few Nyzul Isle 80 runs last night with two SAMs, a DRG, myself on COR, a WAR, and a RDM. The SAMs fucking obliterated Hydra and Khimaira in less than a minute, it was insane.

Of course, it helped that one of the SAMs had Amanomurakumo and the DRG had 2 Homam and 2 Askar pieces, but still...

Fucking beastly. Makes my Detonator look like a little pop gun.

>>32159268
THE LAST REMNANT DOESN'T SUPPORT MOUSE AND IF FF14 WON'T TOO I'LL FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>32159171
>Japanese based classes THE MOST POWERFUL FORCES TO BE RECKONED WITH.

WAR and DRK are japanese based?

>>32159171
SAM used to be shit a while ago, since they were stuck to using spears and had no multi hit ws on their best weapon, makeshift dragoons who have no wyvern and stuck with only gimped less damage spears.

>>32159305
If they are going to do forced grouping, they better damn well make grouping easier and less of a hassle like FFXI for the first 4 years of its life. MMORPGs need to properly balance both group and solo play; stop taking the name of the genre too literally (HURRR MASSIVELY MEANS MULTIPLAYER)

>I personally hope it borrows as much as possible from FFXI

Why, you don't want it to succeed?

>>32159426
there's no doubt WAR and DRK are improved but still, at HNM/merit/salvage taking a SAM will still be better than taking any other melee, sorry

>>32159298

WTF are you babbling about? Pld is shit tier tank, it is only good for xping, not real stuff. Only noobs take pld/nin, everyone with a brain uses nin/drk or rdm/nin tanks since they are way the fuck better. Hell, until they added atonement, pld had no way to generate significant CE at all unless they had excalibur.

>>32159296
USB controller, or adaptor, it's not that hard, retard.

>>32159522
I want it to be about the same a FFXI in scope and audience. I don't want everyone and their mother to be playing this game. I want WoW to stay as the filter while my bros are on FFXIV.

Dogshit timesink for FF fanboys/FF yaoi fangirls that will fade into obscurity around 6 months after launch.

Former Odin bro here.

>>32159561
Yeah have fun tanking Byakko or Seiryu. PLD and NIN are situational, you use one for some and use the other for others. There is no god tier tanks in HNMs, it all depends on what you're against. I like to see a NIN hold hate on kiting KB, seriously.

>>32158724
>get rid of level capped shit

NO.

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. The 'level capped' areas were a brilliant idea. At the very least, do something like EQ2 did and make so you have to synch levels with the lowest member if anyone wants to get EXP. But the level capped areas made the game HARD. You couldn't just plow through CoP or the National missions by tagging a 75 or whatever, you needed to know what the fuck to do.

>>32159426
SAM and NIN. A SAM will always be taken for anything endgame or meripo. NIN will always tank in a meripo and anything endgame that absolutely doesn't hit too hard to blink tank.

>>32159465

You don't want multi-hit dumbass, that is one of the reasons sam is absurdly overpowered. Y/G/K are all single hit, so they have a massive acc bonus so you can stack nothing but str. Oh yeah, and they all have a huge str mod. Combined with the fact that sam gets the best gear, and you see people pulling off 2000 damage gekkos consistantly while a war needs to save 200 tp, use sneak attack and warriors charge with steel cyclone to try to break 2000. 2000 damage every 30 seconds or 2000 damage every 5 mins, tough choice there.

>>32159296
Get a controller, it adds quite a perk
But with a 360 one the triggers won't work.
It's probably just a small input bug
But regardless it makes the controls rather snug.

>>32159561
Nins are actually better at exp party, and Plds are better in dynamis.

I agree, I don't want this game to be immensely popular because I don't want the wow retards playing it. I want it to be populated enough to have as many people playing it as FFXI did in its heyday.

Also, please give us regional servers.

One thing I am the most excited about is that when FF14 hits everyone will be starting at level 1.

I remember when I started FFXI the day it came out in the US and it was awesome. Shit that was like 6 years ago.

Confirmation of Galkas.

That's all I need to be sold on this. Fuck year Galkan Samurais.

On another note, I hope character customization is better. FFIX's was..abysmal to put it lightly. Eight different hair styles with two colours to each and 3 different character sizes?

>>32159755
nope, since the triggers are pressure sensitive they register as a slider to your computer. There's programs and drivers you can put on your 360 controller to register them as buttons.

>>32159792

All races are confirmed, just look at the logo.

>>32159296
PC controls were fine.

Sure, the mouse was absolutely useless, but you could do access/do anything on the keyboard faster than you could with a controller, not to mention the added bonus of windower plugins.

>>32159638
that's a good thing

All the people clamoring for solo play make me facepalm so hard. It's like social outcasts wanting to play a MMO that lets them be social outcasts. Make some friends for christsakes.

>>32157118

Got it right.

>>32159675

I do have fun tanking them. And since I have 75 pld, nin and rdm, I've done it on all of them. Pld is absolutely useless in sky, you are making things twice as hard for no reason. Nin/drk rules on byakko. We kill him with 8 people all the time, tard shells that use plds need to throw 16+ people at it.

>>32159741
You're stupid, he was talking about the fucking ancient days where everyone were spamming pentathrusts for its 60 TP return. Nobody gave SAM enough love for them to justify using gkt back then. Yuki? Fuck that, I rather have a SAM spamming penta every 20 seconds. THIS WAS 2005 BTW WHEN SAM GETS NO LOVE SO STOP ACTING LIKE A KNOW IT ALL RETARD.

>>32159790
Ah the memories. Back then Valkurm Dunes had 3 times as many players as it did mobs to fight, and every time the sun set half of them died...

This thread pretty much exemplifies why I can't get into FFXI. I always got the vibe that I have to be perfect at my job or get chewed the fuck out, and besides I don't like the idea that my chosen job might be completely fucking worthless or ignored by people unless they can't find someone with a strictly-better job. In short, FFXI players seem really elitist and perfectionist, and I'd rather be useful regardless of class.

>>32159755
Not sure how, but I've heard you can make it so the triggers work if you download the XBCD+ driver.

>>32159741
Yeah, that's always what pissed me off about SAM. 'So they can spam WS because of their TP abilities? That's cool, I bet they have to do weaker WS or something to balance that.' Nope. They get single hit, highest STR mods. Fucking bullshit. Though to be fair, WAR/NIN keeps up with axes, though it isn't from WS but rather DPS. Still doesn't feel as cool as spamming WS and it is a lot more upkeep to do efficient damage.

>>32159770

Ninjas can't hold hate in an XP party, you need a thf (or ?/thf above 60) to TA if you are taking a ninja tank. Otherwise they are just an initial voker and then the DDs pull hate and tank the rest of the fight, at which point bring another real DD instead of the ninja.