1) Go grind up to level 10 at least, if not 12 or 13. If you're a white mage, stopping the grind at 8 or 9 is okay for a mithra I guess.

2) At that point you can party up with two or three others and do some of the early quests and missions in your region, some are repeatable.

3) Find someone in the area willing to teach you how to play the early game. There are tons of vets that are only playing these days just to help out the new people. Also, find your sever's major message boards at allakhazam and other websites like that.

4) Save up crystals and ask around about how to make money or fame with them. Trust me, keep them all and sell high, or use them on the quest crap you'll learn about. When you get stronger, they get harder to find. As for other items, ask around at the auction house about the worth.

FFXI fag here.

Yeah, you have absolutely NO DIRECTION.
To me, that part of the game is really like a console RPG, you just have to speak with EVERY FUCKING NPC.

Also, you will want to check ffxi wiki, it will help you out like hell.

Basically, you grind until you're strong enough to completed quest/mission.

You buy and sell most thing at the Auction House.

Crystals are incredibly importants, you need them for every crafting job. Don't throm them away.

FFXI really takes lots of time to fully understand it (I still don't understand half of what my linkshell is talking about), but it's really rewarding endgame.

>>31183637
OP here

Also when does the story come in? I've seen some videos where there are cutscenes and what looks like boss battles.

Is that just end game content?

Anyone from the /v/ linkshell here? I think it was the Asura server was it?

>>31183670

Story comes from missions. You can get those at the gate guards, but you should be at least level 10 before starting.

80-90% of your time should be spent grinding for EXP. Use the little book outside town to help get to level 10 faster. Once you get to level 10 head to Valkum Dunes and get a party. Don't be afraid to ask for advice there.

You get new skills by leveling up. New spells can be bought in town at the auction house, and some low level ones can be bought cheap from NPCs.

Most of the stuff dropped from enemies is junk you should sell. Crystals are used for crafting and missions, but you still might want to sell them because when starting out you are going to need the gill.

Buying from the AH is the best way to get gear. You can craft your own, but leveling up crafting takes a lot of time and money so I wouldn't recommend that yet.

>>31183683

I am.

>>31183715

Sometimes, to get new missions, you have to trade a stack of crystals (12) to the guards that give you the missions, too.

>>31183683
Shiva i think it was

Also, JOIN A LINKSHELL.

You will be hopelessly lost forever if you don't have some people to talk to and ask for advice.

What server are you on, OP?

>>31183756

No, no, there's a /v/ linkshell on Asura.

>>31183522
Delete your character, move to shiva, contact bros for the /v/ LS

>>31183742
How many people are in the shell? Are you guys active? I'd be willing to server transfer cause Kujata server is a barren wasteland.

I am so jealous of you OP, for even being able to play FFXI.

>>31183725
>Use the little book outside town to help get to level 10 faster.
This sentence is somewhat confusing

So what level should I start buying gear from the AH and get out of my shit starting gear.

Since I'm level 2 it seems I can kill 2 mobs then I have to press H to heal. The healing downtime takes not a long time but enough to get under my skin somewhat. Does the downtime decrease over time or is one big factor of the game killing a mob or two then healing?

And when can I get a secondary job

Send a tell to Andradi, Thefury or Mutantgrass on Asura if you want in ob the /v/ linkshell, all stand up guys, will help with basically anything you ask of.

>>31183522
Contact:
Myrrdraal
Hitokiri
Pantzmcgee
Vindale
Bobjohnson
Lunaretic
Darkshade
Brisk

any one of them can get you a link pearl

>FFXI kids
>kiddies

PROTIP: Kids don't play FFXI. It cannot satisfy their ADD riddled brains. That's why they play WoW instead.

>and now I have no fucking clue what to do.
There is no hope for you. How about LEARN TO READ.

Conclusion:
OP is a dimwitted WoW refugee. Stop playing MMOs right now and focus on graduating high school.

>>31183847

Subjob is level 18.

"The book outside" is the field manual next to the town gates. Once an in-game day you can get a list of mobs from it to kill, like 4 bees and 6 six worms or something. After you finish, you are rewarded with a decent amount of gil and exp, as well as tabs, which you can trade for buffs like regen or refresh, which last an hour.
The refresh will decrease your downtime considerably, as you can just heal yourself by casting Cure and then get all of your MP back without having to rest.

>>31183860
Is Asura one of the most populated servers?

>>31183649
Your Engrish is bordering on hilarious.

SHIT can't play until schools finished ;_;

>>31183822
From what i can tell, shiva seems to have more people, and their members have progressed further into the game

>>31183931

The most populated ones are Odin and Bahamut, but they are actually locked for new registrations due to overcrowding. Can't really go wrong with either Shiva or Asura.

never knew there was a /v/ shell shiva, thought the only two were on asura and bahamut

>>31183922
Man I wish they had that stuff when I was still playing. Being a Paladin was rough on the wallet, what with all the food you had to craft/buy.

I'm a Paladin AND a master chef!

>>31183683
>>31183756
>>31183804
>>31183819
Where is the fucking /v/ linkshell?

Asura or Shiva?

How do I turn up the graphics on the game. Seems I can't do it ingame

>>31183977

The Bahamut shell moved to Shiva because Bahamut was overcrowded and locked.

>>31183977
>>31183982
the bahamut /v/ shell moved to shiva because bahamut was closed

>>31183982
>Asura or Shiva?

Both

>How do I turn up the graphics on the game. Seems I can't do it ingame

Start Menu > Programs > PlayOnline > Final Fantasy XI > Final Fantasy XI config

Oh god I can't choose between Shiva and Asura. You both seem like nice people.

>>31183982

Both.

For graphics, download windower.

From the Shiva LS here,

We've actually gotten quite a few new members, do low level bro parties fairly often nowadays

>>31184031

Asura.

Get an Anniversary Band from the moogle near the gate to South Gustaburg (In Bastok Mines). 11 charges, doubles your EXP for a max of 6k bonus exp per charge. (you get one per RL year which is what the Anniversary part is about)

Also the NPC you trade your adventurer's coupon to will send you on a series of quests that give you some basics of how the game works.

>>31184031
Meh, flip a coin :3

I've really enjoyed myself on shiva but the asura friends could probably use some more members, we've been getting alot of new recruits lately

THATS NOT FREE, I CANT PLAY IT

>>31184099
>Get an Anniversary Band
>new player

I don't think so, Tim.

>>31184040
WHAT! Theres a shiva one? FUCKIN'. I wish I knew that, or I'd have played.

>>31184124
see
>>31184000
>>31183989

I'd intermittently do quests and grinding at the early stages because they can net you a nice chunk of change to buy stuff with. Quite a few quests are repeatable and you will be killing the mobs that you need for the quests anyway. Don't forget to update your equipment either at the store or the auction house.

You get spells from a shop, drops, or the auction house.

Can trial accounts join linkshells?

>>31184207
Yessir

>>31184207

Of course. They can do everything except expansion-related things (which you probably won't have to worry about in your first two weeks anyway).

>>31184182
What quests? The WoW-like kill x of this shit quests?

>>31184207

Sure, no problem.

>>31184235
>>31184234
So I should delete my character and make a new one in Shiva?

>>31184246
No, most 'quests' are merely for fame/items

Though there are training regimes now that you can do that have you kill x mobs for exp

>>31184267

I'd do that if I were you. This game gets 300% better if you have bros to play it with.

So any of the Asura guys here by the names of Andradi, Thefury or Mutantgrass posted earlier here on right now? I shall transfer later in the day (5 am here god I should sleep). I'm an 18 warrior and 16 monk. I hope I can fit in. I actually have played this game back in like 2003 where I had a 35 warrior and a 20 paladin, but I was retarded and deleted my characters when I deactivated my account.

>>31184246

Oh no FFXI's quests are way more annoying than that.

Stuff like "Run to the other side or the world to talk to someone else then run halfway across the world again and talk to someone that wants an item with a 5% drop rate off annoying hard to kill mobs"

>>31184105
Goddamn you still have that picture? Those were fun times. I kinda miss them, but I only have so much time in my life. Between new videogames, college, and work I don't think an MMO would be a good idea, and I don't see it being one anytime soon.

Everytime there is a XI thread I want to play it so bad, but they don't sell it here in NZ and ordering it from the us fails, cus it doesn't have my country to pick from, only north america & canada.
Damn you op.

>>31184291
Yea. WoW started to get to shit lately and I've always had a knack towards the open ended games like Everquest and Asheron's Call.

I use to grind all day in Asheron's Call with my Monarchy and it was the most fun I could've had with any game. Hopefully running around with bros will have the same effect?

Also I have a 360 and a kick ass moniter it hooks up to. Should I get this for the 360 when my trial ends or play it on my shitty computer?

A good way to make money early on is farming beehive chips, which are a rare-ish drops from bees. A dozen of these sells for about 4000 gil on the AH (they are used to make beeswax which in turn is used to make other items and they are so expensive because bees are the only way to get them).

Where can I get an invite to the Shiva linkshell so I can get an invite right nao

Gimmie some names

>>31184386

See >>31183877

So if I started playing how long would it take me up get the best weapon in the game once I got to max level?

>>31184309

From time to time, search for those guys, as well as Bardai.

Pro tip: type /sea all <name>

>>31184336

O hello Kai :3 how have you been?

>>31184386
I'll sign online now, /tell Myrrdraal when you get on

>>31184420

Hahahahaha. Years.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Relic_Weapons

>>31184445

You're joking right?

>>31184420

Drop silly thoughts like that. The most powerful weapons in the game are STUPIDLY, STUPIDLY hard to get unless you handily have 500 million gil at your disposal.

Only a few hundred players ever have a relic weapon at all.

>>31184441
Sounds good. Are you an Asura LS member?

>>31184468
Sadly no, it's near impossible to get a relic weapon unless you have many friends in high places willing to help you out

Thankfully there are subsitutes that are perfectly acceptable

>>31184468

Right now I'm upgrading Mandau and I'm at 42 of 61 Lungo-Nango Jadeshells needed to upgrade to Stage 4. Upgrading to Stage 5 will require 100 Hundred Byne Bills. I expect to be done sometime by the middle of next year.

> I bought it when it first came out on the PC but never could play it due to a shitty computer (it somewhat ruined my childhood;

Troll thread, /v/. Why can't you recognize anymore?

>>31184582

I am. Unfortunately, I don't think I'll be playing at all today, because I have lots of homeworks ;_;
Also, I can't make linkpearls anyway...
Some of us may seem a little nuts, but we're friendly.

Now guys. I loved FFXI when I played it, but you have to admit that WoW is a much better-designed game.

FFXI's storyline is great, it has a fantastic world, it's very pretty to look at, and yes, the community is a step above WoW's (not as much as some of you make it out to be, but it is better). But dear gods, the gameplay in FFXI is dated and flawed to the core.

>>31184468
Back in my day it took 6-12 months of obsessive playing to get to max level. They significantly reduced EXP amounts since then and have added several ways to increase EXP gain since then. "Best" equipment will still take fucking forever to get.

>>31184444
Been getting my life together. I would say I'm doing rather well.

>>31184468

No. Good thing is there is no situation where you need a relic weapon. It's mostly e-penis.

>>31184626
Crazy is good. I look forward to playing/chatting with you guys.

>>31184601
Cheers. i do not envy you.. I've always promised myself that if i got a relic weapon i'd force myself to quit the game in hopes of salvaging what's left of my tatered life

>>31184601

Enjoy your virginity

>>31184601
I remember once I started collecting Jadeshells for my relic weapon.

Then I came to my senses, sold the jadeshells and used the money to upgrade my gear in pretty much every other slot.

>"Best" equipment will still take fucking forever to get.

But it doesn't become obsolete either.

Are there servers that go by specific time zones? Say like Eastern U.S. time?

>>31184651
Good to hear, Gradiva just recently came back after been without internet for a few months. I should try to cut back on my game play as well to be honest, i might have gotten straight A's this semester rather than B's >:3

>>31184740

Nope.

>>31184740

Nope. Japanese midnight ;_;

>>31184740
Nope, for good or ill everyone plays on the same servers. PC, PS2, 360, American, European, Japanese, Australian, ect

>>31184655

Most relics are merely upgrades but Mandau is different. In the hands of a well equipped THF it really does improve your damage output by an order of magnitude. There's simply no other dagger that is even close to it.

Aegis (shield) is the same way, turns a PLD into a brick wall (50% block rate and max damage reduction on blocks, -25% magic damage received)

>>31184468
See, WoW has tainted many MMO players into thinking they they are SUPPOSED to get the greatest shit.

In FFXI it's more like "whoa WHOA SHIT MAN YOU ACTUALLY HAVE ONE OF THOSE? AMAZING!".

I always wanted to take up the Ninja class, but my brother would tell me that its a class that drains away your money because of the spells and stuff. What says you gentlemen?

If you're not willing to dedicate a LOT of time (and I really mean a lot, like 4-6 hours a day minimum) you won't get very far in FFXI very fast. You'd be better off waiting for Rapture, since FFXI is slowly on its way into the shitter anyways.

>>31184822
No, it's far beyond HOLY SHIT YOU GOT A RELIC?

It's HOLY FUCK YOU GOT A RELIC? JESUS CHRIST MAN GO DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFE, CAN'T YOU SEE YOU'RE TEARING YOUR FAMILY APART?

>>31184870
Protip: S-E has made 3 MMORPGs, FFXI is the only one still being developed for

There is no indication Rapture will be successful in any way

>>31184856

Ninja is a tank that can DD better than PLD but isn't as good tanking stronger mobs.

I heard they canceled Rapture. I thought it looked good.

>>31184936
Ooh. How's the Corsair class? That looks fun.

>>31184961

Cool buff type class that's based on luck, can also do some decent damage with guns

hey guys i was reading something and i read that once your account is inactive for a while the account gets deleted and you have to buy a new one? true/false? i bought this game a long time ago when it came out and might take some type to shovel it out if i can play it again :<

>>31184912
Doesn't mean FFXI will be the superior game.
FFXI has been "balanced" into oblivion anyways, it's a nigh unplayable mess now. Enjoy King gear being the best obtainable gear for 40 more years because Square doesn't want to make anything better because OHNOES obsolete HNMs we can't has that!
And none of that OH ZNM GEAR IS ALMOST AS GOOD bullshit, because we all fucking know FF is a number game filled with elitists. And besides, it really isn't.

>>31184961
A weird bastardization of bard and ranger.

Seeing as SE is firmly committed to the FFXI model of massive timesinks, 24 hour world spawns, stupidly rare drops and forced grouping Rapture will probably incorporate all of these.

They've managed to hold on to 500-600k subscribers in the face of the WoW juggernaut why would they try to make yet another WoW clone that will probably fail like every other WoW clone before it instead of sticking with the formula that has worked for them?

Nobody is going to successfully make the next WoW because the casual MMO market segment is already spoken for. They play WoW and are unlikely to switch to another MMO unless it's WoW2.

>>31184997
Yes and no. My bro's char was inactive for years and it was gone, but revived with the FFXI character revival promotion thing. Your character still exists either way.

FFXI hasn't shown any real increase or decrease in activity in player numbers in 5 years, census records show 500k+ active accounts every year as far as we can look back.

Hya is awesome.

>>31185012

>>31185039
FFXI actually has about 2 million subscribers.

>>31185049
what's the no part about it?

>>31185053
He sees me!!!!

>>31185082
Your char might or might not be deleted from what I'm saying. I would think if you didn't play since like 2003 then they would delete it but I could be wrong.

>>31184961

Buffer/ranged DD hybrid class. Invited more for their buffs than their DD. Stupidly expensive to play due to ammo costs. And you will never ever outdamage a Ranger while paying more for your ammo than a Ranger does for much better (Ranger only) ammo

Alright Asura friends, I'll see you later today. Night.

>>31183522

There is no direction, grind to level 10 then go to Valkrum dunes.

Spend every waking hour grouping with a full party of 5 people to grind levels slowly.

>>31185110
link to character restore? :o

>>31185053
I'm not trolling.
Do you honestly enjoy having to carry around 6 body pieces that are sidegrades just because they're all situational? Why can't we have better all-around gear than king gear by now?

I have a handful of 75s, but here's an example:
My Thief carries:
Rapparee Harness (cap acc)
Dragon Harness+1 (ws Shark Bite/Mandalic Stab)
Hecatomb Harness (ws Dancing Edge/ Evisceration)
Scorpion Harness+1 (evasion/solo)
Mirke Wahdecors (tp w/o cap acc)
Homam Corazza (tp/meat ws Dancing Edge)


Now if I had Skadi body, I could trim this list by exactly one, making ZERO ROOM in the process.

How is that a good thing?
Don't get me wrong, I love me some FFXI, but admit it, the game is dying. SE bends over backwards the minute anyone whines for a nerf or upgrade.

>>31184650
>FFXI require teamwork. My ADD does not allow for me to work with others.

>>31185163

They added a tutorial quest series about a year ago. The person you trade your adventurer's coupon to sends you to a gate guard who then sends you on a series of quests that explains the basics.

i downloaded the trial a few days ago, the controls are pretty fkn shitty. i played for 3 minutes then quit.

>Don't get me wrong, I love me some FFXI, but admit it, the game is dying. SE bends over backwards the minute anyone whines for a nerf or upgrade.

Unless it's the Ground Kings

>>31185282
lawl. You can't do something so basic to video gaming as learn new controls?

God forbid you do something like play Mechwarrior.

>>31185378
yeah, i guess you're right.. i'll give it another shot..

>>31185243
Tell that to puppetmasters, they've been borked for months with no buffing in sight, also FFXI player base is higher than it's ever been before.. I wouldn't consider that a dying game

And yes, i know how it is to carry around 50 pieces of equipment per job, Don't like it? level sch or blu or some other job that fights in AF most of the time, unfortunatly that's just how the game is

I prefer it over having a 'god set' of equipment, cant have everyone looking the same like in WoW can we?

yes yes, 'everyone uses the same equipment anyway' but not everyone is as obsessive about having the best equipment possible for a Dancing Edge vs a Shark Bite ws macro

>>31185282

Protip: Use a gamepad, seriously. This game was designed around it.

>>31185243
I happen to like my collection of equipment, I sometimes put all my equipment on the floor of my mog house and roll around on it naked while my moogle takes pictures

>>31185601
Keyboard is superior, everything is pig disgusting slow with gamepad

>>31185601
what would you recommend?

>>31185635
keyboard

>>31185539
I was a PUP too, I know better than most.
And trust me when I say it's much harder to be a good thief now than pre-2H patch. :)
Thief is my favorite job, the one I take the most pride in.
So I tend to carry pretty much everything I need to not fail miserably compared to a shittily geared SAM or DRG.

That happens to be a lot. And no, I don't have to just accept it. I'm not a goddamn sheep.

>>31185282
>i played for 3 minutes then quit.

This game is obviously not for you.

>>31185656
I too am a 75 thf and also love the job to death, but unfortunately my sam puts out high numbers so much easier that my thf is usually for soloing/farming/TH4ing.. Sad story bro

>>31185750
It's hard to convince people you're more than a TH4 bitch these days.

That said, my SAM has never, ever outdone my THF on a single weaponskill basis.
SAM is well geared, but my THF has many many more merits, etc.

And my SAM STILL has better dps. Really, it's bullshit.

>>31185886
Quantity over Quality unfortunately, as long as you got a 5 hit set on sam you get more TP than you know what to do with

i wanna play a bard, how are they? what role do they play? do they get in groups easily? what class should i start out with first to make it easier on myself leveling up etc. and whats a good bard race?
thanks in advance :)

>>31185982
Bard is kinda boring.
Any race can be a decent Bard.
White Mage and Ninja subjobs are necessity, some HNMLS will require Black Mage subjob too, to land Elegy on bigger monstarz.

Basically you'll be Bard for everything if you level it, so I can't honestly recommend levelling it.

THF needs full homam and full heca to compete. With homam + turban and 5/5/ heca I parse within a few % of all but the most pimped out SAMs.

SAM is basically a noob-proof job since SE did the 2H buff and then followed up with additional SAM buffs.

Tachi: Gekko gets a 2.0 attack bonus and like +50 Accuracy. Because of this SAMs can just gear all STR on WS while ignoring attack and accuracy and still be almost assured of hitting and have capped attack on almost any mob just by holding their weapon.

If this sounds like total bullshit it's because it is.

>>31186059
>>Basically you'll be Bard for everything if you level it, so I can't honestly recommend levelling it.

huh

>>31186059

This.

People will only ask you for Bard especially if you can get some good items later on.

It is the fastest leveling class because everyone wants you and there are usually not a lot of Bards leveling. Thankless job though.

>>31185982

Put attack, accuracy and haste buffs on melees, put MP regen buffs on mages. Occasionally sleep mobs.

What race+job combination is THE ULTIMATE HEALER?

Bard is good if you always want to be desired in any party.

>>31186095
Anything. Merits, Endgame, Dynamis, Small Group NM hunts, possibly even most missions.

oh, so in ffxi you don't have just 1 job you have a few, so it's like ff3 i guess?

>>31186095

He means if you level Bard everyone will see you as only a Bard and you will only ever get to go to events as a Bard forever.

>>31186165

FF11 you have 1 character that can become every single class once you unlock all of them. You change classes at your Moogles.

It's a different take on MMO classes. Makes it interesting.

>>31186128

White mage/scholar.

>>31186165

You can level all 20 jobs in the game on just one character. Each class has it's own levels, though. So yeah, it's like FF3.

>>31186176

Yep. Bard is my favorite class in the game to play, but I get burnt out on it so often. This is because everybody just wants me as bard for everything. My monk, puppetmaster, and white mage are rarely ever used in group end game events.

>>31186176
i don't see what's wrong with that though.. could you elaborate more?

>>31186165
You have your Primary and Secondary.

Your secondary is 1/2 your Primary, even if you leveled it higher before (and you'll want to).

For instance, when I first started I picked Warrior. I leveled to 20 (at 18 you can do a quest to allow you to set a secondary). Well at that point, all I had above 1 was Warrior, at 20. So I go and pick another job. Monk. Now I can set Warrior as secondary.

So Monk/Warrior. Every time I hit an even level while Monk is primary, my Warrior level increases.

>>31186267

If you get into a Linkshell and are a 75BRD, they will most likely only invite you to Alliances/Parties if you get on your Bard. So if you feel like leveling say .. Ninja or Samurai to 75. Well they don't care they just want your Bard.

Any race can play any job, the different is so minimal sure Tarutaru samurai can't beat Elvaan samurai but they will do damage well enough and also with better hate control, however gear and player skill, those make big different.

Mandalic Stab has really helped THF out in endgame stuff though. It has lower maximum potential damage than Shark Bite or Dancing Edge but the attack boost it has means it scales well on high defense mobs so for example you can do 800 on demons in Xarcabard where before with Shark Bite you were lucky to break 400.

And being a single hit WS if you stack it with SA or TA the offhand hit when dual wielding as well as any multi hit procs will land with 100% accuracy.

Shit I was going to play EVE but now I'm wondering whether this wouldn't be better to play.

>>31186267
Bard is basically casting the same spells over and over for extended periods.

If you level a melee job you really like, but you have Bard, you might not get to use that melee class because the melee to any other class (tank/healer/mage) ratio is retardedly unbalanced.

So if that aspect of bard is unappealing, you might not want it as a first job. But it sure is the fastest way to get XP/merits/gear.

meh, i guess i'll have to try it out... bard is probably my fav class to play when it comes to the rare MMO's that have them.. so, will someone point in the right direction of a class?

>>31186176
Just grow some balls and tell them "No I don't want to bring bard into this event", if they don't allow you just quit and join some other LS with more open minded, how hard can that be?

>>31186302
Just say no to Galka Paladins. Oh shit he lost aggro again, cast Flash you fuck. Oh he's out of mana. Again.

>>31186355
Good linkshells aren't a dime a dozen, and most will kick you or punish you for not coming as what's needed, because that's kind of a big fuck you to the other people in the shell. Team effort and all that.

>>31186413

Don't forget Galka WHM's. Urgh.

Elvaans can pull it off Galka's can not.

I still miss my 75 Elvaan WHM. Fun times.

so races really are a big deal?
i wanted to be a tarutaru :<

>>31186469
Yes and No, mostly No though.

>>31186469

Galkas really lack the mana to do WHMs and PLDs effectively. Depending on gear some could pull it off but wouldn't even waste the time.

>>31186413

Oh he took a Citadel Buster to the face and didn't die I guess he's not so bad after all.

>>31186522
Galka PLD spotted

>>31186413
they could wear rings that exchange their overload hp with mp and also mp recovery rate are the same in every race

>>31186419
If that is your choice then you can't complain about it, you have other choice to choose or even create LS yourself but no you choose to stick with the one you're with because you don't want to get kick

Tarutaru Paladins, FUCK YEEEAAAAAR!

PUP 75 here all other jobs are loser
I really wish SE didn't nerf everything that make us a little bit more useful.. Now they even nerf the Maneples ; ;

Galka PLDs make up for having lower MP by having 2500hp.

>>31186469
Yeah usually no. Only a select few jobs. Like already said Whm and Pld really can't be running out of mana. Watch as your entire team gets wiped!

>>31186557

They should get a Hate bonus for dancing in battle.

Look here all of you who wants to play FFXI. Don't, it's nothing but a huge and I mean HUGE grind. This game doesn't take skill and there is no way to mesure skill in this game and PvP is laughable. In fact, PvP is pretty much dead on all servers and the only way to gauge a player is by their gear.

Also, there is no real progression. You stop at 75 and then you get side grades to marginally make your toon better.

Also, the developers obviously don't play their own game and are stuck in their own little world. Time verus reward is one thing they'll never get. Also, they enjoy pissing off and torturing their players with gimmick bosses and convoluted methods to beating said bosses.

So what race is best for a white mage?

>>31186546
What's so hard to understand about it being impolite to your fellow linkshell members?
I always go to events as what's needed, not what I want, because I want to help my friends get nice things and enjoy the game, not because I'm some faggot that boohoos everytime I can't come as my favorite job to something. I simply advised that if that was unappealing, to not level bard as a first job.

And good luck with a startup "shout member" shell these days, if you aren't in something established you're nearly guaranteed to flop.

Damn it /v/ I've been saying that I'm going to reactivate for months now, and this thread is NOT helping

I have a 75 ninja and 75 paladin and some other lower jobs, if i were to transfer him off of Leviathan where should I go? Shiva?

>>31186595

Dear S-E,

Why not giev Asuran Fists to pup?

>>31186690
You could, the /v/ LS on shiva is starting up some Einherjar/Dynamis/Nyzul stuff

>>31186652

Any besides Galka.

Elvaan's make a good WHM only beacuse of their already staggering MND which improves the healing spells. With HP->MP they can get a decent pool of MP while having the HP to survive an AE attack.

Taru's have huge mana pools but weak health pools.

Mithras and Humans are basically all rounders when it comes to WHMs.

>>31186699
Because we have Stringing Pummel.
And it's actually not that far behind it.

>>31186644
>This game doesn't take skill
And spamming your cooldowns does amirite?

Weaponskill chaining, learn it.

what's the worst job a tarutaru could take up?

>>31186776
uhm......they can do almost anything decently.. but i'd go with nin just for the fact that you'll get 1 shotted by stuff without your shadows up

>>31186757
Weaponskill chaining? lulz wuts that?

>>31186776
warrior or any melee besides dark knight

>>31186662
Very much like CoH/V. Sure I'm a bit burned out on my Rad Defender, but damnit my boys could use one and I'm the only guy in our supergroup that is online and has one.

>>31186744
Asuran Fists looks so much cooler

How's it feel to be the only job that cant use a WSNM WS?

>>31186776

Technically NIN and PLD but it's not like it's terrible. I've healed many successful Taru NINs and PLDs.

Casters -> Melee/Ranged -> Tanks

Best to Worst. But the Worst isn't that bad.

>>31186776
That's mostly subjective, but taru excel at mage classes and do slightly poorer than others at melee classes.

Just do what you like, fuck what anyone says, just don't have retarded gear (at least TRY to have decent things, if you're willing to grand to 75 you can farm) or play like an epileptic lemur and you'll be fine no matter what you do.

>>31186690 here

Here's a bit of a paradox, but is it possible to play FFXI casually these days? I'd love to play it again but don't want to spend 6 hours a day (or days at a time, as I have done before...) playing it.

>>31186699

Because pup already gets armor piercer.

>>31186128
Debatable, White Mage is the best healer for anything that's going to be a fight longer than 10 minutes such as some high level NMs, but Red Mage and Scholar have more self-contained ways of regaining MP and don't require support from a red mage or bard, making them superior healers for merit parties or nyzul isle and other things where you're not taking as much damage because they can also provide the party with other buffs that white mage can't.

Race is also a tad debatable, taru have the most MP so they can throw out more cures than other races, but they have significantly lower HP and run the risk of dying to an aoe attack or if they pull hate. Elvaan have more HP and more MND and VIT than other races, meaning each individual cure restores a bit more, but their MP pool is the second lowest in the game.

Personally, I'd say Taru white mage just because it's a fucking endless pool of MP to throw out, but really, race shouldn't be a factor in picking your jobs, competence in your job goes a lot further than slight racial benefits

>>31186810
Don't listen to this man

At 75 melee are melee are melee

and here I've been unable to play ever since the 360 dashboard update.

Was told I'd have to erase my entire harddrive and reinstall Playonline to play again. I got too much on that hard drive to just outright erase it. Fuck.

>>31186834
For what I do with my PUP, it doesn't matter.
I have plenty of other jobs with plenty of other WSNM WS's to choose from.

Protip: most WSNM weaponskills suck anyways

>Why not giev Asuran Fists to pup?

Stringing Pummel

6 hits

TP damage multiplier: 50% / 75% / 80%

Secondary modifiers: STR_75% VIT_75%

>>31186886
Galka have highest vit

>>31186808
This!

>>31186941
>>31186914
You guys talk like pup is any good. How cute :3

>Because we have Stringing Pummel.
>And it's actually not that far behind it.

IF PUP had A+ ranked H2H Stringing Pummel would actually outdo Asuran Fists

>>31186960

Oh man the memories.

Can you transfer characters from servers? I'm at lvl20 atm and i want to join the /v/ LS but I don't want to start again -_-

>>31186961
I have Monk and Puppetmaster levelled.
PUP is good. It's not good for the things Monk is good for, but it's good. Just because a job has no endgame niche doesn't mean it automatically sucks.

>>31186960
Ha ha ha, that's a good one. Next you'll be telling me that bringing over 20 people for Fafnir is skilled as well!

>>31187018

Server transfer costs $20.

>>31186998
Ah the memories of trying to figure out just what the fuck is going on in those charts.

Once I did everything was so cash, but until then. Bleh.

>>31187032
No, but the more people you have there the better chance you have at getting to fight him.

You know what did require skill though? Killing Fafnir with a single party. And killing Nidhogg with 12 people.

>>31186941
The wiki is wronger than the wrongest tunnel worm.

75% STR mod on a sixfold attack with critical chance would be insane damage. Stringing Pummel is superb, no doubt, but it does not have those mods.

If you have never played this game, then go watch that F.O.E. flash. Yes it's like that.

The Paladin is down! FUCKING RUN!

>>31186942
Galka have higher VIT but lower MND, VIT is a very very weak modifier on cure calculations in comparison to MND.

When I said "MND and VIT" I was classifying them together as cure modifiers, not individually as stats and galka place much lower than elvaan on the scale of cure modifiers, on top of having an even smaller MP pool than them.

Stop grasping at straws for no point at all.

>>31187152
Um. I'm sorry but VIT isn't used in cure calculations. At all. Unless you're talking about Waltzes.

>>31187094
I'd be impressed if they weren't fought the damn same. That's what's wrong with FFXI. All the hard mobs are fought more or less the same.

Somewhere out there is a Paladin named "Gray Fox".

HURT ME MORE!

>>31187189
VIT is a Cure V mod.

>>31187245
I dunno, a lot of the bosses in sky had their gimmicks, like kiting kirin etc

no less so than bosses in wow

>>31187189
It's a pathetically small modifier, but it is used. Something like (VIT/2) in cure V, which is by far the most noticable it ever gets.

>>31187345
Yup. I'm not saying that in support of Galka WHM, but to say "not used. At all." is incorrect.

(VIT/x)+1 rounded down to nearest whole number, x being determined by the level of Cure spell, though don't quote me on it.