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    547 KB Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:03 No.30261922  
    Why are the Japanese more artistically-inclined /v/? Look at this artist's work, it vastly improved after only one year.

    And not just drawing either. Most Japanese games have better artistic direction than western games. Yes, some designers like to simply add BELTS and ZIPPERS everywhere but you have to admit Japanese games are more aesthetically pleasing (and fappable) compared to western games.

    Discuss.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:05 No.30261973
    they traded in their souls for artistry
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:05 No.30261978
    Yeah, and?
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:05 No.30261996
    There are plenty of non-Japanese artists who improve quickly and plenty of Japanese artists who do incredibly shitty work.

    There is not some magic genetic attribute which allows them to excel, no matter how much you wish this was the case.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:06 No.30262035
    Because they strive for perfection
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:07 No.30262044
    >>30261996
    This. Some people are just gifted at what they do, while others just plain suck at it. It has nothing to do with culture or racial inclination. It's just how it is.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:07 No.30262065
    >>30261922
    the only difference i saw was that the dick is more visible
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:07 No.30262070
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    >Most Japanese games have better artistic direction than western games.

    Only in context with the fact western studios aim for more realistic and believable visuals where as eastern direction is much more abstract in nature.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:08 No.30262080
    all three pictures suck.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:08 No.30262083
    because they aren't lazy neckbeards who give up at anything they're not instantly good at.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:08 No.30262096
    Translation filtering:
    There's plenty of shitty jap artists, but they are mostly on jap only sites. Only the good works get posted on English sites.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:08 No.30262111
    That guy looks like he finally learned how to use reference correctly.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:08 No.30262113
    Smiley face knees.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:08 No.30262119
    There are tons of shitty Japanese artists. It's only the talented Japanese artists that get attention from non-Japanese userbases.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:09 No.30262121
    Weaboo, tha'ts doodles to all the people that make paintings.

    Also, smiling knee.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:09 No.30262141
    i'd agree for capcom illustrations and DQ series and many others.. but MOSTRY NIPPONESE ILLUSTRATION MAKES GIRLS ROOK RIKE RORI AND GUYS ROOK RIKE FAGGOTS.
    great examples: final fantasy series, KOF series FATLUS.
    and maybe western developers dont do that shit because they know games are to be played not fapped to
    >> Dr. Naz !F.y0hS.Ces 04/21/09(Tue)18:10 No.30262151
    Japanese games are so Generic
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:10 No.30262161
    >>30262070


    That makes sense. It seems like all western game developers strive for is SUPR REALISM BROWN&GRAY.
    >> Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 04/21/09(Tue)18:10 No.30262165
    SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE


    -Game Over-
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:10 No.30262166
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    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:11 No.30262189
    They are all mutated because of nuke
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:11 No.30262209
    >>30261922
    >snake's package
    Jesus Christ, he's got to be stuffing.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:11 No.30262213
    The Japanese are sex craving lunatics, until everyone and everything can be masturbated to. They will strive for the greatest artistic skill in the world.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:11 No.30262214
    >>30261922
    Why is Chris Redfield in snakes suit?
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:12 No.30262218
    That bulge of the right picture is hypnotizing me.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:12 No.30262227
    Kanji. It nurtures their attention to detail early on.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:12 No.30262234
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    A) Americans don't care as much about having pretty characters.

    B) There's no doujin community in America so talented artists draw original characters instead of making fan art of video game shit.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:13 No.30262266
    Intellectually inferior civilizations have the best art. It's not a coincidence that the best art during Europe was when it was in its most religious and most superstitious times.

    Enjoy your art, Japan, while the rest of the world progresses in science, medicine, and technology. Which you'll promptly steal.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:13 No.30262269
    >>30262065
    this man speaks the truth
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:14 No.30262295
    >>30262234
    deviantart
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:15 No.30262323
    >>30262166
    INSUFFICIENT.
    >> Brutikiss 04/21/09(Tue)18:17 No.30262389
    Because Japs never develop a style or anything like that. They all just copy.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:19 No.30262433
    >>30261922

    The proportions and shading in the second version looks better IMO. Look at the fucking legs in the third one, jesus fucking christ. He's generally too big in the third one too.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:19 No.30262440
    >>30262295
    full of furries and no talent hacks that couldn't draw anything fappable to save their lives
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:19 No.30262445
    the 2nd snake has a vagina.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:20 No.30262465
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=870
    >> PosterParent !!JVEkaVAk0gQ 04/21/09(Tue)18:21 No.30262497
    >>30262234
    Where is the preferred Jap version, or is that it?

    Also, Bioshock. Look how much effort and background they put into it.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:22 No.30262514
    >>30262266

    0/10

    Japan is years ahead of the world in technology and science. They don't have apathy towards advances in science like america does to hold them back.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:24 No.30262579
    >>30262440

    Still better than any 4chan porn board's track record.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:25 No.30262589
    There are tons of gifted Western visual artists, but it seems like only in recent years have they become widely involved in the making of games.

    In Japan (and I fully admit this is just my impression, not absolute sociological fact), it seems like games have longer been an accepted part of the culture at large, and in turn have had a wider variety of minds at work on them. The guys who are the superstars of the industry over there are people like Miyamoto and Kojima, who have always been more idea guys than hardcore code monkeys who cream their pants over engine optimization.

    Western game development has always been dominated by programmers, people who are CS majors, or physics experts, but who couldn't draw a stick figure if their lives depended on it. In turn, Western game development has always focused on scope and complexity, with narrative and aesthetics that fall back on the same rote Tolkien, D&D and Star Trek/Wars sensibilities that they're already familiar with.

    Western game development has never placed much of an emphasis on art, hence games like Fallout 3 that are commendably ambitious on the gameplay front but have amateurish animations and character designs. I think it's really only in recent years that you've begun to see, on the indie scene predominantly, a greater influx of actual, talented illustrators, animators, graphic designers etc. who are elevating the look of games over here beyond just "Brown = Fantasy" and "Green = Sci-Fi".
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:25 No.30262612
    >>30261922

    GTFO weeaboo dick sucker.
    >> PosterParent !!JVEkaVAk0gQ 04/21/09(Tue)18:26 No.30262616
    >>30262295

    Majority of them are taking their inspiration from the Japs.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:26 No.30262631
    >>30261922

    I like how in the latest drawing, he paid extra attention to the crotch.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:26 No.30262635
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    >>30261922

    This is a complicated question. Japanese culture and Eastern culture in general lends itself well to repetitive and tasks that demand high precision, while Western culture tends to have the edge in expression and creativity. Bringing this in the artistic field, it is easy to compare the highly vibrant but inconsistent art prevalent in American comic books with the highly precise but generic looking styles present in those of Japan.

    In saying that, this model does not hold true when brought into video games. It is difficult to imagine a game as artistically expressive as Patapon for example coming out of a major Western game studio. In my opinion this is down to different culture traits between the Western and Eastern worlds. Japanese business culture associates competency directly with age, whereas in the West and America in particular, competancy is based purely on profit. In Japan, the little guy who started out making crazy little cool games in the 1980s when nobody bought games is still making those games, but on a big scale, whereas in America, he has since been forced out and replaced by someone who wants to make more World War 2 shooters. It is difficult to imagine a company with the structure of Capcom as powerful as it is existing in a Western setting.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:27 No.30262667
    WEEABOO WEEABOO XD
    SO RANDUM
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:27 No.30262677
    >>30262514

    >Japan is years ahead of the world in technology and science.

    You can't say that Japan is years ahead of the world in technology and science, those are two humongous areas. They are years ahead of the world in certain areas of technology and science, but so is Europe and the US.
    >> Dio Brando !!D1wEzlENbVA 04/21/09(Tue)18:28 No.30262688
    Japan's lack of apathy and social structure being warped beyond belief is the reason why suicide rates are through the fucking roof in that country
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:28 No.30262698
    >>30262514
    >Japan is years ahead of the world in technology and science. They don't have apathy towards advances in science like america does to hold them back.

    0/10

    Guess where most Japanese who go into robotics and AI go to get their college education?

    Hint: IT'S SOMEWHERE IN MASSACHUSETTS
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:28 No.30262704
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    Pixiv might be 1/10th as large as deviantart but the quality > the quantity.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:28 No.30262705
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    >Japanese more artistically-inclined
    Still ends in a serious discussion... Way to go, troll.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:30 No.30262747
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    French illustration or gtfo
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:31 No.30262776
    >>30262266
    Like, dude, do you actually live in America, 'cause I live here, and I don't know where you're getting the idea of us being intellectually superior to anybody. Plus, we're dragging behind the rest of the world in terms of math and science. There's a reason why said departments at your local university are flooded with Asians.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:32 No.30262831
    >>30262704

    I always find it odd that japanese drawinds often goes for extreme realism in everything EXCEPT the people. It kind of clashes, and not in a good way, the way that the gun, dirt, and butterfly look very realistic but the person is cartoonishly exaggerated.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:33 No.30262866
    >>30262698
    but how many of those people are using that knowledge to try to build robot waifus?
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:34 No.30262880
    >(and fappable)

    Only because men look like women in Jap games and women look like men in western games.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:35 No.30262907
    >>30262631

    Well that's because the artist is gay but that doesn't invalidate his improvements.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:35 No.30262925
    >>30262831
    well maybe if people were more attractive they wouldn't have to do that
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:39 No.30263037
    >>30262704
    Well, smaller sites do tend to have better art. Deviantart accepts art from EVERYBODY.

    But yeah, pixiv is awesome.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:41 No.30263118
    >>30261996no matter how much you wish this was the case.

    lololassumptions

    I hate how you can never compliment another race or find something odd without being called LOLWEEABOO

    Its true, I notice that most Jap hentai drawings are fappable, while American ranges.

    Theres some insanely good stuff, but you also have lololdrawnsex

    Then again, the "only good porn gets posted on english sites" makes sense
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:42 No.30263134
    >>30262776
    >There's a reason why said departments at your local university are flooded with Asians.

    Flooded with them?

    Ten isn't exactly a flood.

    But I guarantee all ten will go back to their country and use what they learned here, to claim it was all their own doing.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:46 No.30263281
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    >Coping other people's characters
    >Artistic
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:49 No.30263366
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    Who cares for that bullshit? GENZOMAN UP IN THIS BITCH
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:51 No.30263456
    His knee

    Is smiling at me.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:52 No.30263477
    >>30263134
    Claimed what was all their doing? The fact that they worked hard and strove for success instead of laying back, taking shit for granted, and emerging mediocre?

    Sounds like something to be proud of to me.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:52 No.30263497
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    Progress you say?
    >> Joseph Joestar - 1977 6389 7366 04/21/09(Tue)18:52 No.30263507
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    >this thread
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:53 No.30263530
    >>30263366
    Fuch yeah Genzoman!
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:53 No.30263540
    >>30263507
    It really does look like it could be a pokemon
    >> OSM 04/21/09(Tue)18:54 No.30263542
    >>30261922
    Sorry but that looks fucking terrible still. Not trolling, all they did was learn how to expand muscles and simplify detail.
    >> ShamisOMally !tlf57x.ND6 04/21/09(Tue)18:54 No.30263562
    >>30261922
    They aren't more artistically inclined
    Its just they fucking outnumber us 10 too 1, so there is a lot more eastern art then there is western
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:56 No.30263619
    >>30263497

    Too bad all they can do is copy shit from other pictures.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:57 No.30263657
    >>30263366

    Fuck Genzoman. He's not growing as an artist and hasn't been for a longass time thanks to fucks on DA keeping his ego enormously huge.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:57 No.30263663
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    ITT
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:57 No.30263666
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    >>30263619
    Some OC from her
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:58 No.30263676
    Anyone can get better at drawing as long as they keep practicing trying to get better and not churning the same shit out over and over (loldeviant"artists")
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)18:58 No.30263678
    >>30261922
    That comparison picture is the worst possible thing you could have used to support your argument. It looks like the "artist" went from 13 year old doodler to semi-reasonable artist, to weirdo pervert who draws huge massive muscles on characters to get sexual satisfaction.
    >> Anonymous. 04/21/09(Tue)18:59 No.30263708
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    >Improved in 3 months

    Nigga, you haven't seen the kids in this book have ya? They went from crayon drawing to fucking detailed portraits in just a few months.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)19:00 No.30263749
    The japanese fanart and artstyle looks a whole lot cleaner to Americans, when in truth even good stuff can be just 'average' in japan.

    Plus, the only reason you'll see a pic here is because its been traded up the ladder.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/09(Tue)19:02 No.30263823
    >>30262925

    Are you seriously saying that shoving googly eyes and a huge head on a person makes them more attractive than a normal person could be? Or, for that matter, that every piece of art needs the people in it to be eye-candy?



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