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    301 KB Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:02 No.29813325  
    hey /v/, it's that time again, here to remind you to stop using shit cables.

    And no, I'm not trying to convince you to switch to HD, just that composite is shit and you should be using something better even for SDTVs (unless it's a very old console, where washing out colors and blurring the image sometimes makes it look better by hiding the defects).

    In North America, "most" TVs since 1990 have "at least" a s-video input which is already much better than composite despite being the same resolution.
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:03 No.29813371
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    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:04 No.29813384
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    >s-video
    >much better than composite
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:06 No.29813462
    My TV only has composite input so I can only use composite input.
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:07 No.29813471
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    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:07 No.29813492
    >>29813462
    must be real old and shitty then

    could probably get a better TV for like $50
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:08 No.29813543
    This just reminded me that I can't connect my Xbox 360 to my new HDTV with an HDMI cable because Microsoft were too fucking stupid to include an HDMI port on their early models.

    It's sad, because I've had this console since launch with no RRoD...
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:08 No.29813547
    >>29813462

    This.
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:09 No.29813578
    >>29813492
    Hey man, I've got other things to spend my money on first.

    Like a working PS2.

    And a non-scratched DS.

    Pokemon Platinum and a ride to Dallas.
    >> 4253-3159-2512 04/11/09(Sat)00:10 No.29813613
    >>29813492
    >>29813325
    I get the feeling this is a troll of some sort.
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:10 No.29813626
    >>29813543
    component is good enough usually

    although digital signal always nice because it just doesn't get any sort of interference (when I plug my 360 with component, when screen is black I sometime see some sort of "wavering" -- while I don't see that on hdmi) -- but while playing, I don't really see any difference
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:10 No.29813628
    >>29813325
    I'll stick with my component, thanks.
    >> Still Definitely Not Chaud !FurrytbMIY 04/11/09(Sat)00:10 No.29813636
    But what if I have a VGA cable hooked to my monitor for my 360? :S
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:11 No.29813685
    Composite and Component look the fucking same on any TV I've viewed them on and I am an HD fag.
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:11 No.29813686
    >>29813613
    why?

    OP is definitly not a troll

    $50 "decent" TV with s-video input might be a bit hard to find though, but well, amongst used TVs from 8+ years ago, it's possible
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:12 No.29813702
    >>29813628
    OP here, component is fine, no problem there
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:13 No.29813758
    >>29813685
    I could understand to a certain degree if you don't see the different between composite and s-video (both only do 480i).. given the difference is just that the colors feel less "washed out" and less blurry

    but component supports 480p, you're full of shit
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:14 No.29813775
    Does using component with the ps2 help with the fuzziness and bordering on hdtvs? I always thought the ps2 was just too old to get a good picture on an hd tv.
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:15 No.29813804
    >>29813626

    There's not much difference in picture quality, then?

    I feel less rage if this is true.
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:16 No.29813831
    >>29813775
    ps2 games only look good on an hdtv if youre playing on a bc ps3
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:16 No.29813834
    >>29813775

    It looks like shit regardless of what you do. Get used to it.
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:17 No.29813857
    >>29813685
    an HD fag who cant see a difference between composite and component?

    you lying piece of shit. you're no "HD fag"
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:17 No.29813859
    this doesn't make sense how can an SDTV have component cables?
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:18 No.29813898
    ps2 games look awesome (well the best it can look) using component cables on a lcd tv
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:19 No.29813932
    cool, you didn't really have to make a whole picture guide for this
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:19 No.29813938
    I'm getting my HDtv tomorrow.

    I'm so excited.
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:19 No.29813948
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    I can only use VGA on my monitor because my 360 doesnt have a fucking HDMI.

    My PC is DVI though
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:20 No.29813963
    >>29813804
    yeah, image quality is pretty much the same

    given good conditions, it can be almost identical too

    you can't get 1080p via component though, only 1080i (well, it's possible, but the hardware generally don't allow 1080p due to faggotry)

    but "all" 360 games don't support anything above 720p anyway (often less)... rest is just upscaled -- I said "all" because there are stuff that do real 1080p on 360.. but it's mostly just demos and other pointless stuff.
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:21 No.29813992
    >>29813898

    It seems to depend on the game.

    e.g. Persona 3 looks like shit on my new LCD, but Persona 4 looks fuckawesome.
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:21 No.29814000
    >>29813325
    I used an RF adaptor because the TV i used for Videogaming from 1989 to 2007 was a 25" TV from 1983, I played NES, SNES, N64, GCN, PS1, and Saturn on that shit

    Nostalgia'd hard man

    ;_; it sits in the garage now because i cant play any new consoles on it
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:21 No.29814016
    >>29813898
    umm what? if you think upscaled shit stains look nice.....
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:22 No.29814040
    HDMI would be good if 99% of manufacturers didn't try to rip everyone off with them.
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:23 No.29814072
    >>29813898
    personally I plugged my PS2 via s-video on my TV Tuner

    then I can upscale and apply minor filtering (so it doesn't look pixelated) on my comp's lcd monitor

    Wish I could use component though.. but component tv tuner are really rare and expensive. I recall seeing a USB one once, but it was like $299.99 and I bet I'd get input lag given how slow USB is (I don't get any on my current pci tuner)
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:23 No.29814077
    >>29814040
    yeah but online at newegg or something the prices are great. I get pissed at the prices at electronic stores.
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:24 No.29814103
    HD newfag here.
    What's better for a 1080p capable 40" LCD?

    720p or 1080i?
    >> ­Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:24 No.29814104
    yo yo yo

    OP, the difference between VGA and DVI is just analog vs. digital, that's it.

    I still use an RF adapter for my NES because I don't have anything else, and I use composite cables for everything that isn't my xbox and ps3 because I'm not paying for overpriced vga/dvi cables.
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:24 No.29814113
    god everyone is so lucky i have a shitty ass Samsung DLP 42 inch 720p
    >> ­Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:25 No.29814132
    >>29814103
    720p = 1080i
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:25 No.29814151
    HDTVs are shit. Call me when someone actually makes one without noticeable output delays. I can't stand how every manufacturer acts as if it doesn't exist.
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:26 No.29814187
    HDMI = DVI covered in the assturd known as HDCP, no thanks
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:27 No.29814222
    >>29814151
    I've got a 28" Soniq LCD and there's no lag at all.
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:27 No.29814226
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    Just so you all are aware, you can get hdmi/component cables off amazon for about a dollar. Don't buy the $50 shit from Best Buy, the cheap cables are the exact same thing, if only slightly less durable (which really shouldn't be an issue, considering you can get 50 of them for the same price).
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:27 No.29814230
    >>29814151
    god tell me about it my DLP is terrible. it takes quite a while to get used to FPS and Rhythm based games on that fucker.
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:28 No.29814253
    >>29814103
    1080i is shit

    if you can't do 1080p, usually better off with 720p -- especially for gaming

    On a very large TV, and if you're upclose.. 1080i is probably better to watch a movie or so I guess.

    As for gaming, nearly no console games support "real" 1080p rendering (just a few PSN titles here and there, rest upscaled). If want HD rendering, need to look for PC games.
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:28 No.29814265
    >>29814222
    anything under 30" is a waste of money, bro.
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:30 No.29814309
    >>29814265
    Meh I only paid $200AU, couldn't fit anything bigger in my room lol.
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:30 No.29814340
    >>29814151

    40" Samsung LCD.

    No lagtimes whatsoever. NONE. Zero. Zip. Nada.
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:31 No.29814347
    >>29814340
    more like 5ms response time amirite?
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:31 No.29814358
    Do newer ps2 games tend to work better on hdtvs in general?
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:31 No.29814359
    >>29814226
    yeah...

    with analog signals, getting better cables can be nice sometimes

    I sometimes get slight audio noise or slight distortion on image when I use analog signals and a cheap cable (I know not all people get that, depend on the environement, stuff you got running in your room, etc..).

    However, with a digital signal (aka, hdmi and the like) you never get that.. so a very cheap cable is fine. It doesn't really need to be durable either, if you don't touch a cable it's pretty rare it's going to go bad.. I don't think people go around waving their TV around and straining the cables all that often.
    >> Agent-Coffee !!l0gxydvgYSM 04/11/09(Sat)00:32 No.29814376
    >>29813371
    which is which
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:33 No.29814410
    >>29814265
    It depend on how close you are

    I'm 0.5m in front of my 26" comp monitor (also got hdmi input, so I use it for my ps3 as well), and it covers most of my field of vision

    if it was any bigger, I'd need to move my chair back
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:33 No.29814433
    Hey OP.
    Where is the HDMI cable for my SNES?
    You said there would be HDMI cable, OP
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:36 No.29814499
    So, how much difference will I notice if I use component cables over composite on an SDTV?
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:36 No.29814511
    >>29814433
    I think you can actually use component with snes, can use the same cables as a gamecube
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:38 No.29814559
    >>29814499
    depend on the TV

    but the colors should feel brighter (less "washed out"), and the image sharper (especially noticeable on text-heavy games)
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:38 No.29814585
    >>29814511
    lol, HOLY SHIT LOOK HOW CRISP THOSE PIXELS LOOK!
    >> Anonymous 04/11/09(Sat)00:40 No.29814648
    I have a 26" LCD tv, with a resolution of 1920x1080 (I think) and the picture with HDMI is fucking brutal.



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