enjoy your dumb terminal future fearer

>>29009138

When we finally reach the OnLive Headquarters we will have quite the surprise waiting for us, it was SEGA.

Why would they do this? to finally dominate the market as they always wanted the only way to convince SEGA to stop their evil ways will be a tournament, us versus them in every multiplayer game imaginable... And for the first time, /v/ will work together.

Nice L4D reference.

Faggot.

>>29009268

ultimately we will lose, they know too much and are not just pencil pushers.

OnLive will enslave the entire Earth, reading into our thoughts, monitoring our every move, and ultimately controlling our bodies.

That logo you see there, that Logo that looms over the planet like an orange meteor, that is the face of death.

But, if we start rallying up early, perhaps we can win.

No thanks. I prefer being able to do things myself. It's also why I don't have a Mac.

Hi...I'm Jennifer...wanna be my friend?

JIZZ IN MY PANTS!

I say we all grab our consoles and go underground until the fallout passes. When the time is right, we emerge from our dank havens and form a rebellion against the tyrannical Onlive, using Nintendo zappers and little suicide R.O.B.'s!

LOOK WHAT YOU DID TO THE PC GENRE PIRATEFAGS

THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT

I HOPE YOU'RE FUCKING HAPPY

PC FAGS ARE DEAD! FUCK YEAR

MAC USERS WIN FAGGOTS

It really is the death of consoles and PC.

And the worst part is that it takes control completely away from consumers... we are now powerless.

/v/ IS NOW MAC TERRITORY MOTHERFUCKERS! PC KIDDIES GET THE FUCK OUT

My fellow /v/irgins, see this for what it is. It is, indeed, a blight that shall spread across the land.
Yet I shall walk into this blight, so that I might warn you of the on-coming dangers.
I shall put my own life at risk for your own safety and, in the end, so that you may stop this corruption.
I put my faith in your hands, /v/, as I travel into the eye of the storm, to feel its wrath, to know its power, and to enlighten on its threats.

>>29009654

Exactly, this is why I'm here today, to stop it at any cost necessary.

Winter 2009 is the beginning of the end of the world, we have to save it, and not for the people, for the vidya games.

They haven't partnered with valve.

No valve games = a large amount of people won't play.

To the people that will play, they'll be faced with input lag, general lag, and high prices.

Enjoy your failure.

>>29009714

There was a Mac Uprising, but their gaming skills were not very good, OnLive Trapped them all inside of a Starbucks... WITHOUT THEIR LAPTOPS.

I'm sorry, what? How in any way is this a bad thing?

How exactly does it take control away from the consumers?

I see people complaining about it but I don't see any downsides to their service.

>>29009746
Actually Winter 2012 is the end of the world.

Three more years to go. We're just now seeing things spiral out of control.

You know what we must do now, /v/...

use your brain and think about it logically.

imagine we have a high res 1080p image. this image will be about 300k-600k, but lets be conservative and say that it will be 300kb.
Now, this service claims that it will stream the game, in high res, at 60fps.
in other words:
60x300k/second
or 18000kb/second
or 18 megabytes a second

that means that, for HD, your tubes need to be able to reach 18mb/s, and stay that way for as long as you play the game.

the issues with this are:
1. if your tubes are weaker than 10mb, your stuck with Wii graphics.
2. if you are charged by volume, this is going to be more expensive than buying a new computer every year.
3. you never own the game

and, if you think companies like nvidia, amd/ati or intel aren't going to revolt about this, your a fucking maniac.

It is all subscriptions and rentals, you never "buy" a game. You rent the game for a few days on top of the subscription service. Real PC gamers will live on.

>After years of development in stealth mode, we finally expose ourselves to the world. Watch the live feed here!

>we finally expose ourselves to the world.

>expose ourselves to the world.

>expose ourselves

>>29009603

That means you too

>>29009918

DON'T WATCH THAT FEED!

that is how they begin to slowly take your mind.

If you ever stop subscribing, you have nothing.

Your ISPs will hate this, and begin capping your connection.

I'm not worried, though, because I don't think this is even feasible. I doubt they'll get a product out before the company bankrupts itself, two years from now.

>>29009779
Brilliant.

Valve has Steam, which of right now has nearly 1 million users logged on.

OnLive not having Valve games = a large percentage of those people sticking with pc's and not using that.

No way Valve would buy in to give their games. They make tons of money already.

Therefore, until Valve dies, PC is still alive.

inb4 OnLive is dead before 2010

I'm just concerned abo--YO DAWG WE HEARD YOU LIKE ONLINE GAMING SERVERS SO WE PUT A VIDEO STREAMING SERVER BETWEEN YOU AND THE MULTIPLAYER SERVER SO YOU CAN LAG WHILE YOU LAG!

>>29009840

>>Implying Mayans didn't got bored of making calendars
>>Implying Planet X will crash us
>>Implying ZALGO

Lulz.

IT WILL NEVER WORK

>>29010033

So Valve can save everything!

>so we eliminate piracy
BRACE FOR SHITSTORM

Haha I can see it now. Something fucks up? Enjoy having access to NOTHING.

>>29010074
win

I like how no one cares about the fact that you NEED an internet connection to play all games. Also, lag. Also, no hard copies.

>>29009852
don't forget that even if your tubes are 10MB/S, your ISP likely oversells like a motherfucker, so if this service takes off, expect ISP's to throw a fit and throttle you/pricejack

also, how in the hell are they going to avoid input lag? even if they somehow eliminate network lag, it will take much more processing power at their datacenter than just playing the game. imagine playing crysis, recording the video, compressing it to a decent size at at least real time speed, and sending it over a network.

never going to work

So far the only critisism seems to be the connection issues. Considering how fast internet speeds were 10 years ago, would you say that OnLive has great potential in the future?

>>29010206
tl;dr OnLive got in a hurry and didn't think shit through

>>29010227
Yeah give it ten years when even the hillbillies have 100MB

>WINTER 2009!!!!

>>Onlive microconsoles will be on sale for $599 US dollars
>>$599 US dollars
>>$599 US dollars
>>$599 US dollars
>>$599 US dollars
>>$599 US dollars

video video games

If this works technologically then it will be a huge success since game companies will get straight into that shit since you cant pirate it.

They said it would be the cheapest "console" available, i believe, i'll rewatch the first bit to confirm.
They also said anothe option would be subscription.

>>29010314

where'd you get that price newfag?

OSTRAYLA

>>29010314

How much will games and/or subscription cost?

This will never take off in Australia. Our caps would hit the limit after 2 hours of gametime.

Hey guys, question time. Let's prepare for the bricks of shit and train wrecks.

>>29010314
really? i missed the end bit

ENJOY YOUR LAG AUSTRALIAN FAGGOTS

>>29010348
and even if you could pirate it it would be utterly pointless because noones going to play it on a non onlive server

WHAT THE FUCK ANOTHER AUSTRALIAN

watch Canada get fucked over again... watch them have all servers in the southern US

>would mark the death of gaming

Stopped reading there. You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

the us has a horrible internet infrastructure this is a bad idea

Faggots dont want to talk about subscription fees. You can tell it's gonna be shit expensive.

>>29010418
Calm down you fucking retard

>>29009821
bandwith

>>29010314
He's lying faggots.

They haven't said the price of anything yet.

>subscription cost
>plus cost of individual games

I stopped watching.

>>29010464

Or they're doing "focus groups" to see how much they can gouge people on it.

>>29010435
Holy shit she was english are you really that thick

BAHAHAHA

COST OF OPERATION WON'T BE SO LOW WHEN YOU HAVE TO BUILD A DATACENTER IN EACH MAJOR CITY

>>29010492
lil' baby has to work for his games? oh nooooooo ;(~~~~~~~~~

>>29010545
>i'm so lucky, my mom buys all my games
>and i'm 29.

It'd end console wars. And that'd be a sad sight.

>>29010467
SUCKS TO BE AUSTRALIAN NOW DOESNT IT FAGGOT?

>>29010492

The sweet spot would be $2 - $5 a month. Anything more than $10 and the # of subscribers would drop like a lead balloon.

Is it possible?

OnLive + Steam = Shit prints money

>>29010416
no, not really

they didn't say, but i heard the console thing itself is really cheaper then the other consoles out there

>>29010545

Enjoy shelling out extra money to put up with lag in single player.

I'll be enjoying my cheaper physical copies of games that I can turn around and sell later.

>>29010545
>>i'm so lucky, my mom buys all my games
>>as long as I don't tell anyone where she touches me.

>>29009821
>I'm sorry, what? How in any way is this a bad thing?

>How exactly does it take control away from the consumers?

lol this guy is the target audience. the clueless consumer that'll jump on any dick as long as it gets him off.

-cant install mods

The one thing holding it back.

>>29010314

$599 US DOLLARS?

Omg, are we in E3 2006? It must be a nightmare, rite?

>>29010527
same shit

>>29010571
what will all those neckbeards do?

>>29009852

He said in the interview that they've been working on compression for a long time to make this doable, so the numbers are probably what he said.

>>29009821

1. Loss of modding ability. No more user-generated content unless its "approved."

2. No hard copy. You don't even have the files on any piece of hardware you own. If something ever happens to the onlive servers or your connection to those servers, you've lost the entire game, not just the ability to play with others.

>>29010573
Calm down man.

i refuse to believe this is workable till they set it up in some random persons home.

so not only do you have to pay to subscribe but you have to pay for each game? fuck that.

>>29010581

lol no. They said they would be offering subscription services a la Xbox Live, around the same price range. If people buy that, then they will buy onLive.

>>29010584
Stop that.

because this totally ruined gaming the first time they tried it too, right? protip: it didn't work then either

just not gonna work..yet.
Concept is sound and once proper internet bandwidth is highly accesable it'd be WRONG not to have a "console" such as this.

However currently, the infastructure just isn't there.
I suppose they had to reveal this at some point, but I see it's very likely it will tank considering the current restraints.

>>29010615
Like you trolling on /v/?

>>29009714
>>29009603
Oh do shut up, you sound like a fag.

>>29010619

He's trolling. Calm the f down.

>>29009603

No one wins dumbass, this is bad. Imagine xbox live, but everywhere.

Do you WANT to be called a nigger faggot all the time?


...wait this is /v/, it happens all the time.

ah well, RIP everything game related. hello shitty latency and bandwidth caps _everywhere_

>>29010206

Good point Bro. The input lag would suck so hard.
Maybe it works well in their lab, but it would suck hard in the real world.

Imagine a game where you have to snipe. thats all about twitch aiming. it would be impossible, even with dedicated lines.

the only way they MIGHT be able to do it is by either making all the games use autoaim/predictive movement, like caramak implimented in quakeworld. if you remember in that dudes video, he said that each game takes about 2-3 weeks to make it work with their service. perhaps they are doing that?

another big concern i have is where are they getting the processing power to run multiple games at once?

again, lets use crysis as the example. imagine 50,000 people playing crysis at once. that means that their servers need to have 50,000 instances of crysis running at once. thats a fuckton of processing power right there! they are either renting super computers, or using the "programs" you install on your PC/Mac to create a botnet, and collectivelly using everyones processing power to get the job done.

i honestly cant see this service working. and, as you say, ISP's are going to fucking freak out when a user goes from 20gb usage a month to 400gb a month.

>>29010483
>bandwith
>with

>width

>>29010682
butthurt pc

OH MY GOD YOU FUCKING IDIOT BIGDOWNLOADS YOU WERE SO CLOSE TO ASKING ABOUT SUBSCRIPTIONS FUCK

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKK

>>29010581
>The sweet spot would be $2 - $5 a month

I think you forgot a zero there somewhere.

>>29010672

Err, why is this so appealing? Seems more like a cute gimmick than a real breakthrough. The loss of ownership and ability to customize is far far far more problematic to me than the notion that I have to slap a new 3D card or such in my rig every few years.

almost everyone who has a computer with out a gpu is a person who doesn't give a shit about gaming.

>>29010781
if they can actually stream data as fast as they claim, then thats kinda a pretty good tech advance

>>29010724
Yes I'm an elite butthurt PCfag whose all up in arms about this little service I'm not going to using or caring about in the slightest. Now excuse me while I go play my games that I'm not having to rely on someone else to play.

it won't work. we don't have the tech to do this today, and it won't ever really be feasible, the data needing to be sent will always be advancing beyond the capabilities to send it. next gen will likely be stereo3D, automatically doubling it. by the time transfer tech catches up to computation speed the benefits of a system like this will hopefully be irrelevant.

the one market for this is developing nations where games are not published, but in posession of high-speed internet. thinking china, india, parts of southern africa and the middle east, even australia. all have high-speed internet but games are traditionally not published there or are absurdly expensive. this system will provide perfect DRM, meaning no risk for publishers to publish on it.

>>29010781

it appealss to dispshits who don't want to or don't know how to upgrade their hardware. Also, dipshits who think they can just toss money at a problem and fix it.

sounds a little like Steam, only with more faggotry.

>Where will OnLive be available?

>We’ll be launching across the continental US.

>>29010760

To subscribe to their service? Are you high?

$20 - $50 a month? They make the money off people buying/renting the damn games. Use the low cost as a loss leader. $2 - $5.

>>29010085

Educate me more about ZALGO

>>29010809
so you admit your butt hurts

This is the silliest thread I've seen today, which says something.

>>gonna be divided in west, east and central areas

Seriously, OnLive is just plain shit, it won't work and it will die 1 month after it is released. Lrn2Tech

>>29010874

you missed the jailbait stalin vs martians rts trailer from gametrailers thread then. shit was so cash.

can this play WOW? it would pwn the entire world if it did.....

>>29010587
holy shit thats what i tought

>>29010941

Doesn't EA own Blizzard?

>>29010941

>WOW
>pwn

SCIENCE

SCIENCE!

>>29010808
an inevitable one at that.
As he just said, there's limitations and there will be regions.

But considering the number of consumers with high-bandwidth connections who are gamers who WOULD be interested in this at this time, I think it's unlikely to be a success.

Once the infrastructure has been revamped on a nation-wide scale here in Canada, the US and other counties who still are plagued with a majority of poor internet access, this service, or one like it could be very appealing.

However currently, knowing MY bandwidth limitations and the ones nationally in Canada and the US, I would not vie into this service for anything other than SP games.

>>29010627
you're not paying for the games, just the subscription, so what

if you want to own the games and don't want the multiplayer aspect they provide in particular don't sub

>>29010872
Not really, I rather enjoy actually having my games not paying for subscription fees. So if that's your thing then by all means go ahead and have fun with your slavery to the gaming fees. Now as I said before excuse me while I enjoy my games that I don't have to consistently pay for each month.

good for mac i guess...

>>29010808

Ok I can see where some snazzy data streaming tech would be nice. But as a total replacement for locally owned gaming content which I have control over? No thanks.

>>29010671
we weren't ready back then. It's 2009 now. It's time.

>>29011027

You can buy or rent the games dumbass.

why won't anybody ask about the fucking sever hardware

it'd be pretty sweet if online does work out imo i have fios so its no a problem for me

This will kill Nintendo finally.

No more casual bullshit kiddy games.

Die, you weeaboos.

>>29011027
Then why the fuck did it say Buy/Rent/Demo, faggot?

So let's assume for a moment that someone had godly connections and multiple computers.

This could ruin multiplayer gaming by screen looking in a whole new fashion.

Just wanted to give my cent.

anyone ask about mods?

Oh shit my cable went out well at least I can pass the time by playing some good single player games... Oh wait

>>29010781
BTW it doesn't appeal to me bro.
I just said it was a SOUND CONCEPT.
Big fucking difference there.

Wait, what the fuck IS onlive? Did it just surface the net today?

Why have I seen 10+ threads about it on /v/ already today?

>>29011116
Learn to pay your internet bills, you caveman faggot fuck.

He shouldn't have laughed at the 150 GB / month cap question. My gay ass isp caps me at 100... officially... if they actually enforced it :D

(Lazy ISP employees FOR THE WIN!)

>>29010714
I'm just going to get this for crysis.

then leave it on all day everyday one full at a particular bit where even the mightiest of PCs have trouble keeping up.

>>29011085
that friend stakin they showed earlier has hilarious possibilities.

>mbit

DAMN YOU TECHNOLOGY

Wow, the perfect solution the piracy problem.

Never giving the game out.

Video gaming crash in 3... 2...

HAHA

TRY AND PIRATE NOW, FAGETS

>>29011116
>>Tree bad, ima cut yeww down treee oh noes!!!1! Mah interwebs!!!

lololol 60 hours a month

>>29011012

See that's the problem, ISP's are becoming tightwads on data, caps are being implemented or threatened, and this thing wants to surf in on a tidal wave of bandwidth usage?

Hardware upgrades aren't absurdly expensive, nor are they as scary and painful as people think. This just seems a bloated and cumbersome alternative to a simple issue.

>>29011175
What? I don't understand this.

Are pirates not buying games suddenly going to make $0 profit a negative profit?

Graphics capability and mulitplayer capability will both be ennhanced by a gameserver farm. Every one is playing on the same massive machine colony. Yeah you might be far away from your squad mates but your all linked into the same location.

I was dreaming about this IN THE YEAR 2000 for Cyan's URU game. Graphically a ONLINE MYST game would need this sort of system to render photo realistic images and and to allow players to interact in a unified online virtual world.

In fact this is what the PS3 was suppose to be but I can see Microsoft offering this service on the XBOX. Microsoft should just buy this company outright and run every possible game off through the 360s.

Next gen console development just became game server farm creation.

the onlive crew must be fucking brilliant.
you know, for finding a way to break the laws of physics and send signals faster then the speed of light over electrical cabling.

>I put down over a thousand dollars for my computer so I can pay for an online subscription service that lets me pay for games that I already pay monthly for online not to mention paying for patches... whoops, sorry, "DOWNLOADABLE CONTENT" that I don't even own so when they inevitably bring their servers down i'll be truly left with a whole lot of nothing.

i tried beta testing something similar to onlive last year. (might have even been onlive i dont remember) but i was never able to get the shit to work for some reason.. i dont remember that either

>>29011214

Hardware upgrades are just pointless, because who wants to spend all that money to play games on a dead platform?

wait til someone comes with competition (cant be a monopole) and then there will be exclusives and its all gonna be the same again.

i can't wait till this screws up

I must have missed where the OP said why it would be the death of gamin.

>>29011236
>I didn't read anything at all. ANYTHING.

Anyone who is saying they are stupid for charging so much SEEMS TO BE FORGETTING THE CASUAL GAMERS

Also the whole claim of no piracy will probably bring in alot more developers to try new thing

>>29011138

Except you'll be running it only at 720p resolutions, which no respectable PCFag would tolerate.

i knew pc gaming will be back on top! thanks onlive.

>>29011214

This.

Back in 2000 I had no Internet cap at all.

120 KB/s up
Over 1 MB/s down. (cable)

No cap.

3 years later:

50 KB/s up.
600 KB/s down.

20 GB/month cap.

:(

If it ever gets EXCLUSIVES, we'll talk about it. Right now it's just centralized gaming PCs.

Just imagine if this both works as advertised and takes off in a huge way. The next generation of consoles might not even be intended for the end-user, but designed as game-delivery workstations for services like this.

>>29011214
I agree, I'd much sooner upgrade my PC (400$-500$ on a 1/2 yr old PC) before buying into this.

But like I said, now.

Maybe 4-5 years down the road i'll be game...but now?
lol, i'll enjoy my PS3 and mediocre PC.

If PlayOn proves me wrong i'll be suprised and impressed, it's unlikely though.

I still have no clue what this is about, so basically you don't need a good computer to games now? So is it like Gametap, but instead of old games you can play next gen games and new games coming out?

This whole things just does not seem feasible to me.

But eh.

I just found out what this is and I think it's fucking brilliant. More power to them.

it's not possible

>>29009138
sure is viral marketing in here

onlive is fucking doomed to failure, any sensible person can see that.

>>29011175
Perfect? They'll lose more money with this limited consumer base than they'd lose from piracy on PC/consoles.
And besides, no system is perfect. There will always be a way to crack it, if the need is great enough.

>>29011372
But I have no doubt the technology will give us something pretty neat in the near future.

FUCK YEAH YOU FAGGOTS READY FOR DUMB TERMINALS?

FUCK YEAR NOW MGS4 WILL BE PORTED TO PC! SUX IT XBAWTX

>>29011366

You use a browser plugin or standalone box.

Game server runs the game, streams video of it playing the game to you. You stream back your controller input.

>>29011366

you don't even need a computer at all as they also have a little device that can hook up to a TV

all you really need is a 1.5mbit internet connection for 480p or a 5mbit connection for 720p

>>29011366
Your controller is streamed to their server, and you then stream the video. IE their server do all the job, you just stream.

>>29011406

>Implying something is currently losing developers more cash than piracy.

>>29009654
how, exactly?

you pay a subscription price for cloud computing...its like renting a really powerful computer , but you also need a T1 line

>>29011366

Basically you hook up their MAGICBOX and tell a server farm what controls to do in a game as they stream the video to your shitrig.

This whole thing reminds me of the infinium phantom, won't be surprised if this "service" becomes vaporware.

I'm in the UK and my old ISP, I forget the name, kept bitching at me for using 70+ gig a month on my UNLIMITED broadband package. They don't consider that fair usage.

I don't think this could ever be worthwhile. To buy a brand new PC it'd cost me about £600.
It'd last 2 years before i'd need to upgrade again, and then it'd cost me another £200 considering I wanted to play brand new games and high to max graphics.
That's like £16 a month and I get to actually OWN the PC and play any game I like, not just what they have available and if I choose I don't need to BUY the games.

Add to that the fact I don't want to hog the shit out of my internet connection whenever I play games.

Cool idea but probably 5 years too soon.

>>29011366
From what I got out of it, you hook it up to either your TV or monitor, and THEIR server runs the game. Your button presses get sent to the server, and the gameplay gets streamed on your screen. They'll probably do something like having a (larger) monthly fee for megacock performance, but yeah.

Guys Guys, calm Down. Onlive is just a Joke.
there's no way this would work. why?
think about it: paying 20$ for a game you NEVER own. what if you have a problem? what if you want to install a mod? no shit. also, assume thatthe multiplayer would be monitored, imagine that shit. also, assume that you will not have friends. no voice chat. not even a fucking photograph. you can't add people to play with. also the network problem. 18MB/s just to play some shit? hell, here in chile 4MB is the max of a EXPENSIVE connection. and they block ports and shit. so, it would be WAY more expensive than a PC or a console. hell, even a console and a PC would be a lot mre cheaper

tl;dr Onlive is a fucking stupid piece of shit of a joke that won't work.

montly fee to use the service plus the cost of the game no thanks..... made it for super rich causalfags

>>29011366

Basically.

This is both good and bad.

Piracy is ended forever, so PC developers will earn money for their hard work.

However, people might start losing interest in video gaming mainly because it would be too expensive to maintain, and that it can no longer be pirated.

Hardware is not an issue anymore.

But this destroys the little hearts of PC gamers everywhere. Cyrsis runs perfectly on this little fucker, all that money they spent on upgrading their PC will be waisted. This shows a problem to companies dedicated to PC gaming hardware. Half of Microsoft's profits will drop signifigantly.


I'm worried that I can't play my games that I already have anymore, and I need to buy them again.

Also, what about the Wii? Will Nintendo finally fall, or will they refuse to join OnLive?

>>29011446

Some places have internet so crap where even the former is not obtainable.

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>>29011290

THIS TIMES INFINITY

>>29010014
Considering Koreans suck too much Blizzard dick I don't think pc gaming will ever die. Ever.

>>29011214

This caters to the fucking morons that don't even know what the inside of a computer looks like.

IE: People you don't want playing your game of choice in the first place. Imagine if WoW were to go down.

The shitstorm of god awful, moronic people that would flock to different games would make anyone puke. This is just Xbox live for everything. It'll be a breeding ground for idiots.

>>29011470
>currently
Please read my post before replying, thanks.