So what?

>Engineer - Forward planning skills and guts for offensive engineers.
Yeah, I took a heavy 1on1 once as an engineer. Shit was so cash.

Pyro takes the most skill followed by demoman and engineer.

Seems about right.

Scout - Good trolling skills

>>28117662
Aggressive Engi's are like gold dust.

>>28117665
>skill
>demoman

>Demoman - Requires knowledge of maps and good aim.

>Demoman

>good aim

Yea, firing grenades around corners and sticky bombing the floor while backpedaling sure does take a lot of skill and aim.

>>28117744
>Skill
>Pyro

Fixed that for you

heavy requires more twitch than scout and sniper

someone of your team yells spy? BAM do the 180 and shoot everything behind you

you see the backstab icon? same for that

Spy - Requires skill and luck.

Soldier - Requires skill.

Demoman - Requires a two button mouse.

Sniper - Requires skill and being a douchebag.

Scout - Requires skill.

Engineer - Requires effort (not skill) and bad players on the other team.

Pyro - A "w" key and a two button mouse.

Medic - Requires not being retarded.

Heavy -Requires good teammates, skill, and BABIES to kill.

>>28117724

Tell me about it. I had an enemy engi on a game of 2fort last night. God he was incredible. It was 2/2 for caps and we'd got it and were carrying it back to base, got into our basement, all think the match is won, then he gets killed. "No worries, we'l just go and pick it up". Get down there, turns out this Engi has built a lv 3 sentry nest and teleport in our cap room. Won the game for them as we couldn't capture but they managed to break through.

>>28117822
>Pyro - A "w" key and a two button mouse.
One button is more than enough.

>>28117852
and that is why 2fort is a shit map

None of the classes are that difficult.

>>28117952
as easy as the pyro is, at least he needs to be close to his enemy to kill them. The demo just lays sticky traps at chokepoints and waits for his points to come in.

>>28117852
You didn't go Demo?
People do that shit all the time.

>>28117662

Engy's shotgun is awesome, nobody takes it seriously so they just run up to you like idiots.

>Heavy
>patience and planning

Fuck that. I play Heavy the way he's supposed to be played, like a Behemoth on crack.

RUN COWARDS

You guys obiously haven't seen a good pyro in action. This fucker can do almost anything in the appropiate hands.

Seriously, this class requires as much skill as any other, it's just the backburner scrubs which makes it look bad.

>>28118019
He's supposed to lay traps.
It's your fault for being so fucking stupid and charging in like a retard.

Tell yourself that every time you get killed by a demo, it's because he's broken, if that makes you sleep better at night.

Pyro - Requires no skill at all and has the lowest life expectancy of all classes(even scout)

Good Pyro - Actually knows how to play the class. Blows away ubers, spy checks all the time, and saves engineers' sentries from rocket/sticky barrages.

The TF2 community is basically:


"If it kills me, it must be broken"

I like capping points and air bursting away people trying to defend them. It's quite effective.

ill fix it for yah

spy - hurr nurr durr hurr
solider - durr durr durr nurr
demoman - harr hurr hurr durr
sniper - hurr hurr hurr nurr
scout - darr hurr nurr nurr
engineer - nurr nurr durr hurr
pyro - hurrf nurr durrf durrf
medic - hurr nurr nurr hurr
heavy - durr durr durr durr

>>28118547
fuck, you missed a really easy pun there

>pyro- MMPPPHH MUHUHMPPHHMPPHHRBRH

>>28118362
Better than most other shooter communities which are "If it kills me it must be an aimbot"

>>28118252
I have no idea why anyone would ever want the backburner over the air blast. You get to laugh at level 3 sentries, demomen, and soldiers as they hit themselves. I've gotten great at timing the air blast so I can reflect rockets even at short range. There's no better feeling than reflecting a crit rocket. Disorienting players is also extremely useful. Hit a heavy with air blast and he'll have a much harder time spinning you down. You can use it to disrupt an uber, too.

pyro- mouse 1+ w

>>28118275

that is pretty simple to do, though

Demoman - Requires good tactial abilities.

Fixed

>>28117592

I love you.

>>28118922
I fucking love flanking ubercharges from the side and shoving the medic out of range, it's hilarious and satisfying even though it doesn't give me any points.

>>28118922

PYRO FIST

>>28118935
you'd be surprised how many pyros refuse to learn how to air blast rockets

Heavy might as well be deleted.Ever since the sandman came around, he's been a walking home run.

Scout - Run until you find someone with their back turned to you and let it rip.

Engineer is easy mode. Build a sentry, dispenser, and teleporter and keep your shit healed and clear from spies sapping.

Half the time you're sitting on your ass waiting for somebody to come so your sentry can fuck him up.

pyro- Mouse 1+ W

Medic- requires team players, who know how to hide while healing and block sentry fire when ubered

spy- requires fast cloaking,stabbing, and disguising skills. as well as sapping and blending in with the other team, and not running away from enemy players while disguised. Gentlemen

engineer- help out other engineers, spy check, build teleports and good sentries. bonus points for combat engies

scout- Mouse 1 + space bar x2

heavy- Mouse 1 + medic + spychecking= Credit

demoman- ability to get stickies all over engie buildings, sometimes crit pipe bombs can be win. but 90% of demonigger should be sticky spam

soldier- lead targets, pray for CRITROCKET!

heavies are useful in that they can take the most damage

>implying tf2 requires skill

>>28119327
derp

>>28118922
Fuck your backburners and airblasts.
Flare gun is the shit.

Yesterday, I was playing as Engie. I was in one of the bends of the 2fort sewers, when a scout with the FaN came at me. I got two shots in with my shotgun, then he closed to melee, hopping all over the place like a fucking jackrabbit.

As he jumped over my head, I swung the wrench, caught him right in the groin, and killed him.

I taunted that corpse for a while. Feces was SO currency.

>>28119327
yeah drawing sentry fire while a demo stickies it is a great strategy. unfortunately it requires team play.

>>28119235
I completely agree. Heavy is supposed to beat Scout in 'fair' combat, hands down. Scouts should not be able to think "Oh, a heavy is spinning his gun out there, I should go kill him." If a scout wants to kill a heavy, he should have to work to disorient the heavy, get in a shot or two with the scattergun, then run the fuck away (repeat).

Heavies already get annihilated by spies and snipers. Protecting your medic against a good pyro is also very hard. There's not enough reward usually as a Heavy unless you're uber'd.

>>28119394
true that.

Team Fortress 2 - Talked about way too fucking much on /v/.

>>28119375
>implying that a new player vs skilled player has a 50% chance for the new player to win

>>28119297
>scout- Mouse 1 + space bar x2

reactionimage.jpg

>>28119394
The flare gun is pretty situational, I get more use out of the shotty.

>>28119394
Enjoy losing to other pyros as I retreat and shotgun you to death.

>>28119419
Scoot can kill any heavy if he gets in close with scattergun, and heavy isn't already spinning.
Heavic Meddy is another story however.

>>28119448
Then go start a pokegirl thread /b/tard

I'd add good aim to spy. A good spy uses his revolver more than his knife.

>Engineer - Requires people on the other team who do not know that an ubered demoman can take out 3 engie turtles with one uber

>>28119515

You assume too much.
Faggot.

>>28119518
depends on the map. in push cart maps spies on defense are backstab machines

>>28119448
Talked about just as much as Dwarf Fortress and SFIV.

Live with it.

>>28119448
Mmm, hardly.

>>28118922

I tend to stand by an allied sentry gun and rflect all the rockets and grenades that come it's way.

>>28119448
You're just irritated because you don't own it.

TF2 - because faggots couldn't afford a decent game

>>28119626

>>28119626
What's bad about it?

>>saves engineers' sentries from rocket/sticky barrages

I thought I was the only one to do that. It's fucking fun.

>>28118922
I don't know why anyone would want the shitty(geddit poofer xdd) over the backburner.

Sure, in the hands of an incompetent Pyro who just charges at the first sight of a target it's complete crap, but for a pyro who can think tactically, it's one of the best weapons overall.

All it really needs is a Pyro that can assess the risk of blindly charging in holding down m1, or playing it safe by firing flames and backpedaling to hold them off while you get a healthpack/medic or find a teammate who can do the job better than you could.

For instance, as a backburner at the last cap, stage 1 of Dustbowl, I was able to shut down the opposition long enough for my teammates to cap the point from the side.

Think of yourself as a scout with the ability to backstab.

Scout - Pure twitch skills and deep knowledge of maps

>>28119746
selfish "only my point score at the end of the round matters" weapon is what the backburner is.

It's pretty accurate, actually. Scout requires more than just twitch skills, but other than that it's pretty good.

>>28119746
Backburner is fine if you are on offense or are in a ctf game.

But if you are playing defense on any map and you don't use the airblast, you are not credit.

Heavy is the most fun when the other team is stupid. I don't play TF2 very often but I got like 1/3 of the heavy achievements in one round, with no medic. I just sat on the first point of dustbowl and kept grabbing the health packs. Entire enemy team was BABIES.

>>28119746
>in any way suggesting the backburner is better than the airblast
Don't worry, you'll one day see why you are terribly wrong.

yup bad game

Airblast is shit.

If I have to be close-range to hurt someone with the flamethrower, why the fuck would I want to be able to blow them further away with the fucking airblast?

What you don't realize is that each class gets unbalanced by each update, but once all classes are updated, they are all imbalanced, and thus the game is balanced again.

>>28119917
no, on balloon race backburner is great when u get on the other side of the enemy's boat and spray there spawn point from behind.

>>28120037
Airblast is good against übers, can deflect explosives and can stop close-range non-Pyro opponents from killing you, preferably while keeping them unable to run for a health kit to extinguish themselves.

>>28119917
Is that way I always murder every single airblast pyro that tries to take me down?

Tell me how the airblast is useful for actually KEEPING YOURSELF ALIVE.

Not suiciding by trying desperately to blow back rockets/stickies before they blow up in your face when they kill you anyway.

>>28120037
Aim upwards
Disrupt person's aim
Magically appear behind them
???
Profit

???=flamethrower

You already kill everyone if you're behind them anyway, don't you? Unless it's another pyro, in which case the backburner is a serious advantage (I don't even try to go after other pyros because I always seem to lose). Also, the whole projectile thing.

Speaking of which, any tips on Pyro v. Pyro besides left mouse button + w? I suck so horribly at it.

>>28120133
By good against ubers you mean situationally where you can get the upper hand by blasting a medic away from his partner?

Yes, I can see the -situational- advantage of that, but my point still stands as backburner being the better weapon OVERALL.

>>28120213
Protip: Running INTO the Pyro's flame gives more damage to you, while he doesn't get as much damage.

The key is getting him to charge after you.

In essence, hit the key below W.

>demoman
>good aim
Since when?

>>28120037
>reactionimage.jpg

>>28120171
Explosives do significantly less damage if you 'own' them.

Easy example: you kill a medic healing a heavy. He spins around to kill you. Because he's standing outside a doorway, you air blast him in a corner and run away. You can also do the opposite to prevent someone from getting away: use the air blast so they get stuck against a wall, then flame.

>>28120213
yeah, its ideal to keep about a 2-3ft distance between you and the other pyro

Spy - Requires stupid players on the other team

Soldier - Requires stupid fuckers to shoot the ground while mashing space bar

Demoman - Requires sitting on the grate in your own base firing stickies from a safe area, you fag

Sniper - Requires point and click

Scout - requires almost as little as Spy, but sometimes random button mashing to fire a stunning ball

Engineer - requires a dispenser here and a sentry up there!

Pyro - Mouse1 + W

Medic - Mouse1 + W behind a heavy

Heavy - Mouse 1

>>28120369
This is wisdom

You forgot knowledge of map for engineer too.

>>28120334
Ah, but here's the deal.

If the medic+heavy combo has their backs turned to you, you should be able to kill the medic and kill the heavy just as he's turning around to kill you.

Whereas if they're looking right at you, you REALLY shouldn't be charging at them.

>>28120467
Oh, and forgot to add that anyone trying to get away would be critflamed by the backburner.

>>28120467
So I guess you never fought a heavy who used his mouse to turn, right?

>>28120537
Yes I have, but I waited on mouse1ing until I was pretty much point-blank, and I sliced through the medic and blew through the heavy just as he managed to start shooting at me.

>>28120537

Do tell me how one turns with the keyboard, since A and D are strafing?

>>28120467
Sure smells like xbox version around here. Any non retarded heavy will spin around the instant he sees his healer's health going down.

>>28120213
the shotgun you stupid pile of fuck.

>>28120652
Because keys can't be rebound, right fucking idiot tripfag?

>>28120720


ROFL ya very good point.

>>28120713
Yes, but if the medic is hugging the heavy, both will be critflamed, but if the medic is, say, arm's length away from the heavy, of COURSE I'm going to kill the heavy first.

Jeez, you don't think too far ahead, do you?

Pyro needs: Being close to an enemy for success. (which isnt really hard with its movement speed and the way maps are)
Demo needs: For sticky/artillery kills: retards like yourself on the other team, even as all of hes projectiles can be easily dodged, destroyed, NOT RAN INTO, or even turned on the enemy.
For nade launcher kills: much more then what a soldier needs with hes rocket launcher.

>>28120213
M1,M2,2,SSSSSSSSSSS,M1,M1,M1,M1,M1,M1

>>28120720

Why'd you want to turn with both the mouse and A and D, that'll leave you two keys to move forward or backward. Personal choice I guess.

And since when does voluntarily displaying an alias make me a dumbass.

I get more kills with pipe bombs when I play demo.

I hate demos who can't fucking aim or air shot with pipe bombs and only shoot stickies all over the fucking place. I find pipe bombs more useful for destroying sentries as well.

>>28120779
good luck killing any heavy with decent reaction speed with a healer on him.

I main heavy.

I LIVE
RUN COWARDS

implying that TF2 requires skills of any kind

>>28120868

Asking retarded questtions while wearing a name on an anonym site makes you a dumbass.