God, those thighs.

pick pyro

go 134-2 your first game

>>25667536
i would like to know this too as im buying the orange box tomorrow

Go medic...

Wont take long to get your first kill.
To be credit to team, be a good Engineer.

>>25667571
LOL like 'ban kai' from bleach!!

Go medic and watch other classes to see how they play. Credit to team with survivability and learnings.

If you want to get a hang of things and be credit to team play 2Fort as engineer.
Build your sentry near the spawn gates pointing towards the courtyard.
Dispenser in the left side of the enemy entrance (by the fence)
Teleport to the sewers (Health pack area/right next to the stairs)
Patroll the area for enemies, piss them off and lure them to your sentry.
Credit to the fucking team.

Go Medic. Follow people round to learn the maps and fighting tricks.

Just make sure you select the Medigun (right) and not the Syringe Gun before you try and heal someone for the first time.

Seriously.

"Engineer is credit to team."

Build a sentry defending your own objective unless you're attacking, if attacking you can build teleporters to near front line, dispensers to give health/ammo, and a sentry so your team isn't knocked back.

Just play it, that's what everyone else did...

You wont.

It won't take you long at all if you do at least 2 of these:

-be reasonably intelligent
-play conservatively at first until you know some things
-play with people who actually communicate, and work with them
-play a class your team desperately needs

We have so many of these threads, every time there is about 50 replies saying 'Go Medic'
Medic is boring as fuck.

>>25667732
A Medic is as good as his healed.
That's why I don't really think its a good class to start of as.
But then again, what do I fucking know.
I own the 360 version any fucking way.

>>25667775

But even a less-skilled Medic is a credit to the team.

When you're starting out, go Medic and Engineer.

Then go Heavy, or Scout if you have good aim.

You'll be fine as long as you don't play Soldier or Pyro permanently.

I started off playing Scout and Spy and didn't do so bad.
cp_well is quite a good map to get started on, not many people play it though :c

24/7 2fort instaspawn
go medic
heal sniper on battlements
dominate entire opposing team
enjoy being unkillable

>>25667946

If you didn't do too badly as a Spy when starting out, I commend you sir.

Well-played Spies are lethal. Poorly-played Spies end up with 0-500.

it's pretty hard to suck as heavy.
but.. play medic to be credit or pyro to get easy kills.

>>25667958
>24/7 2fort instaspawn
who knows he might meet Ray Romano

1. play defense
2. go pyro
3. find an engineer who looks like he knows what hes doing
4. work with the engineer... note that you dont actually have to talk to him to work with him. This can be done in the following ways:

Briefly spit flame at any friendlies who pass by. If they light on fire, they are a spy; kill them.

Use the secondary fire on the flamethrower to knock explosives away from the sentry

Use the secondary fire on the flamethrower to knock ubered medics off of the people who are killing the sentry

light people on fire and the retreat into the sentry's "safe zone"

flank around behind people who are trying to "wear down" the sentry, especially demomen

ta-da, instant credit to team.

>>25668035
Well, I started playing when the game was released.
I don't know if it was me being half-decent or nobody knowing to spycheck.

1. be a scout
2. get bat out
3. BOINK
4. BONK
5. ?????
6. PROFIT!

>>25668114
> 7. SOLDIER FIRES A CRITROCKET TO HIS FEET
> 8. MAGGETS
Seriously, fuck the bat.
Only good to bonk stupid snipers.

>>25668078
I've seen a few other Pyros do this, but I've never considered doing it myself until just now.
This is possibly the only thing that pisses me off more than Demomen, too.

>>25668220
i know :( its just fun to run around like a bat wielding maniac

>>25668078

how do you secondary fire?

>>25668332

right click

>>25668223

Yeah, it surprises me how few times you see a pyro and an engie working together seeing as how they're every bit as made for eachother as medic and heavy are.

1. Play Scout
2. Use only the bat
3. Bonk everyone and constantly press "X" then "5" when not in combat
4. ????
5. PROFIT!

>>25668223

Trying to play Dustbowl and being unable to cross through that ditch to attack the point because the whole enemy team is Demomen and the floor is littered with stickies is no fun at all.

>>25668408

I use x bawks :[

Just started playing today, Ive been following people around as a medic, but im intrigued by this whole pyro thing.

They are usually called spy checkers. Youtube it.

>>25668465
No such thing as secondary fire for the Pyros in the 360 version.
Vanilla TF2
2Fort
Engineer
Final destination

>>25667761
>-play a class your team desperately needs
I can not say how much you should listing to this...
Ok newguy here are some tips ....eningeer and medic =Credit for the team even when you suck donkey balls... (just heal everybody till uber then attack,enigneer just pick a spot and sentry there and if you got time put some teleports on the frontline)

Soldier + Demoman + heavy = 2nd credit for the team but the demo and soldier are hard to master but powerful .heavy just watch out for snipa's and go find a regular medic buddy for insta win and credit to the team)

Pyro = Spy checker god if you have a spy infest help your engi's they will love you ...Also try to ambush and get back burner...you will kill everybody short of a very good player or uber pair

Scout= G-g-g-g-get that intel/control point. also change class if they are sentry campin you will lose (or just go kill some people but thats hard)

Sniper=Sure you will get a 10-1 kill count easly but Dont go try to find other snipers....focus on control points and medic pairs to be credit to the team (or just kill a lot of people to slow their attacks)

On a special note= SPY the most credit to the team guy if you are good with it...It CAN DO EVERYTHING SENTRY KILLIN ,PAIR KILLIN, CONTROL POINT ROGUEIN SCOUTIN
You will be the guy that will immoblilise that sentry post so your team will come in for the kill.
You will kill that medic pair in a nice combo.
You will RAPE the snipers killin your team..
BUT its the hardest class by far to master..
(if you can try pyro first then go engineer or medic..then soldier or heavy then demoman or scout And then go for the awesome spy (leave that sniper unless you aint aiming for credit to the team)

You are welcome feel free to add/critism
A team fortress (and spy of course) lover.

(picture related my 1st !!! try as pyro)

>>25668465

>x bawks

In that case your pyro doesn't even have a secondary fire and wont get one until they release that expansion that will update your version with all the stuff the PC users have been getting gradually.

Pyros are still good engie partners, but not as amazingly so. If anything, a heavy or even demoman might be better in the 360 vesion as the pyro has only his shotgun to deflect stickies, without that secondary fire on the flamethrower.

>>25668774

Yeah that's pretty much all true, except that he can't get the backburner on the 360

Which is sad because the backburner actually makes the pyro viable as an offensive combat class.

>>25668774
>Kills: 161
>Deaths: 181
>Pyro

Scrub

>>25668705

I own the 360 version and it is in need of DLC.

I want more stuff.

>>25668774
>24/7 2fort fast respawn
>time connected - 3 Hours 42 Minutes

>>25668774
>24/7 2fort fast respawn

>>25668890
MY First TF2 fight EVER..Not that bad imho...
Also i aint defending...ATTACK ATTACK is all i do
Of course i run in too that sentry 8 times in a row
But i love fraggin .

>24/7 2fort fast respawn

Word of advice... don't play 2fort, and don't listen to anyone who talks it up.

Seriously, it's not a very good map at all. Play payload and CP maps.

>>25668774
In 360 version I'd say Sniper takes the most skill, simply because console controls aren't as good for fine aiming as a mouse is.

>>25668907
And map fixes, I'm tired of people always building sentries under the maps. Can't they update this even ONCE?

>>25668941
>>25668984
>>25668890
Come on guys... I know ,but just posting that picture because it was my first TF2 fight ever..
And i got top score.
Also look at the rest of my post before posting..
I aint that stupid and play Spy almost all the time now.

>Which is sad because the backburner actually makes the pyro viable as an offensive combat class.

>>25669062

Oh, fuck, I forgot, 360 doesnt even get the payload gameplay mode

Goddamn why do you people do this to yourselves?

>>25669062
Finally someone who shares my views. I fucking hate 2fort. It's fucking awful.

>>25669310

Because we own 360s and don't want to buy a gaming PC, and TF2 is a good game no matter what platform it's played on.

>>25668035
I agree.

When I started out I always loved spy, but the first month, I always ended up with at least four times the deaths to kills ratio.

After 57 hours spy, I get at least 6 kills every death

>>25669274

You seem to be under the impression I am trollan. I'm afraid you are mistaken.

Demoman, Soldier, and Heavy can all easily kill a pyro even if they don't know he's there until he's within his rather short range. Sniper and Medic can make pyros their bitch quite easily as well as long as they know he's coming.

Really the only class he dominates the fuck out of is spy.

Ow sorry OP by the way ..For xbox its a different setup Because sniper take hell of a skill ..
(pyro is still easy mode even without the upgrade's)
But then again the slower classes (heavy,soldier) are easier because lack of snipers...I will still say pyro for basic's
Then move up till spy ..(when you can do spy you pretty much masterd the game)

>>25669429

I suppose the question was two fold; if you do have a gaming pc, then why didnt you get the pc version, and if you don't, why did you get a console?

But lets not let this get any further into console vs pc warfaggotry

what's a good server for newbie faggots to play on? :(

>>25669476

Until, that is, he gets the backburner.

At which point a semi-intelligent pyro can quite easily make a 2-1 ratio.

>>25669586

Whatever server has the lowest ping, eight or more players, is not playing 2fort or granary, and is not using reduced respawn times, altered crits, sourcecraft, or any other gay mods.

>>25669593
>>25669476
Guys Lets not forget that pyro should ambush
This is like spy backstabbin without the hard part and weakness to every little blow.
(even without backburner you should kill heavy;s before they can turn around ,and when they do =cricle strafe and you will almost always kill the heavy or mosltly die and kill him because of the flames)

>>25669657
Indeed ..If you can find a fast respawn (or instant)
Server try it because you will die much from the beginning...your killcount will be 1-2 at best then will 1-1 and then will 2-1 and so on...

>>25669593
>backburner
>no airblast
>no way to counter long range soldiers/demoman other then with the shotfail or the flareshit

>>25669754

The "kill with flames" idea is stupid. In all the time I've played as Pyro, none of the people I've torched have ever died due to being on fire. Ever.

>>25669859
Ambush + Backburner = GG
Also, if you somehow screw up the Backburner ambush, swapping out for the Axtinguisher is an easy KO, assuming you can dodge for a split second to pull out the weapon.

>>25669862
I've never really found this as a way to kill them, but most players will realize their health is getting low and will go back to safety.
This effectively pushes back the point of conflict on the battlefield, giving your team some room to push forward.

>>25669754

"before they can turn around?" are you stupid, or playing on a console? They can do this instantly. Any half decent heavy WILL kill a pyro who ambushes him, even from behind, before the pyro can kill him, unless the pyro has the backburner or help from other classes.

>>25669859
A smart soldier will aim at your feet so no airblastin.
Also a demoman mostly will fire shots that are hard to knock back.
But in a open area the airblast is godly and only a sniper/heavy can kill you.
The backburner is mostly better in crowed smaller maps or maps where you can take a detour much.

>>25669859

The counter to long range soldiers and demomen is to retreat.

If a backburner pyro has been spotted by a long range class before he has gotten far enough forward to get behind someone, he has already failed and should start over with a different route.

>>25669859
a good pyro avoids long range combat

Haven't played TF2 for half a year here

What does the air blast do? How does it work? I haven't tried pyro yet, too busy playing around with new heavy shit, and I haven't seen anyone use it yet (or don't know when someone's using it).

>>25670167
>>25670168

pyrotactics mind

>>25670142
>Every Soldier will aim at their own feet.

Fix'd

>>25670226

It knocks physics enabled objects (rockets, grenades, stickies, players) away from the pyro at a pretty good clip, and uses 25 ammo

>>25670226
I believe that it will reflect rockets from Soldiers and Sentries, as well as the Pyro's flares.
Also, it can push players away from you.
I recall a game or two that had a Pyro that would run toward a Heavy, push him in the air with the pressure blast to confuse him, and finish him off with flames.

>>25669361
>>25669310
>>25669062
so much truth

Play CP, and play one of the straightforward classes like soldier, heavy, sniper or pyro. They're all pretty much point and shoot - and the pyro has the added bonus of projectile reflecting and people pushing. If you start as an engineer or a medic, everyone will complain because your sentries aren't in the right place, they NEED A DISPENSER HERE, or your teleporter is in a lousy position. As a medic, you'd be a little more useful, but spend a few rounds watching when other people use Übercharges or be prepared to face whiny players. Spy is probably the most difficult. Pay attention to how they act/kill you before you try to be one. I still suck as scout.

>>25670078
mhhh maybe i've been very lucky the past 100 heavy's..Ow wait no ..I know how to circle strafe ..At least that works for me ..(heavy moves real slow when shooting..and when i get him from behind ,he turns and ill turn withhim)