uh, gimp them so the rest of the team gets some action too. as for now theyre too much credit.

If he bumps into a spy, mask falls onto the ground, exposing the spy. Kinda like the way scouts used to work in TFC.

>>24914603
Yeah, that's the answer. GIMP SPY MORE.

>>24914603

Or, they should just do that to scout.

Don't be hatin',
sniper is always a credit to the team.

markers would actually pretty cool for a sniper update

>>24914555
You see, children? When VALVe nerfs the "broken" character, people find a new one...

Being able to drop a camo tent for your team?

>>24914603

>bump into spy
>bump
>into spy

bump
>into spy....

limit the amount of snipers on each team

PROBLEM SOLVED

>>24914638
Then not only would we have pyros spy checking 24/7, but scouts running circles around the intel all day.

Bumping into a spy already causes you to come to a complete stop and it reveals cloaked spies, so we have enough already.

snipers a loner, he works best by himself. he should get camo of some sort, and they need to stop him from firing while moving. at the very least snipers should have to be crouched just to fire.

Sniper is plenty of credit to team if you play properly and not just fag around aiming for headshots all day.

>>24914744
You already move slower when zoomed in, no need for a further speed reduction.

A sniper's fursona would be a wolf. He would be behind the pack and would be crouched ready to pounce at any moment.

That's why they call him a lone wolf.

He can also only fuck dragons.

>>24914518
Anti-cloak goggles

4 snipers 4 engineers every map

Have them watch the points and fire when they're in the process of being captured

This isn't about the Sniper kicking ass. He already does that, it's about him doing something that will help the team other than killing people.

>>24914695
>>You see, children? When VALVe nerfs the "broken" character, people find a new one...

make it so when you select him, it automatically switches you to another class.

2 snipers 1 jar

There is nothing that needs to be done to buff the Sniper, people just need to suck less with him. It only takes a few great snipers to completely clock almost any offense. The problem is that to do this, most snipers need to be about 1000 times better than they think they are.

>>24914798
NO
>>24914905
Lick my chocolate salty balls...

>>24914518
> Be able to "mark" sentries on a map?
what map?

Sniper hump charges secondary meter for the sniper rifle and shoots dicks.

>>24914749
You're an idiot...

How is killing off enemies not a credit?

You choose yer sweetspot and support your team by picking off everything that comes infront of yer crosshair. Saved plenty of teammates that way...

Good sniper is already credit to team. Should aim for 75% headshots.

>>24914798
I hate you.

>>24914813
A Sniper Rifle with a thermal scope that could see cloaked spies wouldn't be a bad unlockable.

A sniper using exclusively the SMG can take points. Try it. Shit works.

>>24915016

>yer

Where the fuck do you think you are, faggot?

>>24915079
NOW THAT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD IDEA.

>>24915096
I'm fuckin' yer fuckin' mum,
that's were I am.

>>24915084
Why not just use pistol as an Engi or Scout, then?

>>24915156
Reported.

>>24915184
Reported

>>24915079
Yes, let's nullify hard counters. Coat the scout in white paint so the sentry doesn't fire at him, give the heavy a bulletproof helmet and a knifeproof vest.

>>24915184
Ooohh, the hurtbutt...

>>24915016
you snipe other snipers sniping other snipers.

>>24915209

Don't forget giving the pyro jetpacks...

>>24915242
FUND IT

>>24914798
I hate you.

On topic, i don't really think sniper needs anything changed. sniper is a great credit to team in the right hands.

Update weapons will probably be like this; a semi auto rifle that is considerably weaker.
Replacement for the SMG might be a traditional, double-barreled, hunting shotgun. Extremely powerful if you hit, but if you don't, punished by a long reload time.
no idea what would replace the kukri.

Anything that lets you see spies is fucking stupid.

Learn to watch your own back you whiny fags.

>>24915209
Anything counters a sniper if its behind him.

>>24915231
Well fuck, if the situation calls for it,
but that would probably just happen on shitty pub's.

>>24915293
MOAR LIEK A TRANQ RIFLE, AND A TACTICAL 12 GAGE. ALL HE HAS TO WATCH OUT FOR IS A CLEVER GIRL.

Change the class name to 'crazed assassin', and we wouldn't need to have this kind of discussion, now would we?

WE COULD USE GORILLA TACTICS

Give Snipers the ability to plant invisible landmines.

I fucking rage everytime somebody goes off saying "... sniper is a great credit to team in the right hands ..."
All I can say to that is FUCK YOU, you schmug ass fucking fancy cunt.
You can say that about every other class in TF2 (excpet the pyro, even a spastic retard can be credit with pyro), so fuck off with that shittalk, trying to downplay sniper class.

>>24915385
>Guerrilla
:|

>>24915293
>Sniper
>Shotgun

Hahaha no the whole point of the class is that he's weakest at close range.

Automatically change the name of everyone who chooses sniper to, "counter strike loving faggot #x" where x is the order in which they chose the class.

>>24915391

or place invisible tripwires so he would be notified of a spy's pressence

>>24915507
>weakest at close range
>second strongest melee weapon

he(or the scoot) should be able to spot targets for long range artillery barrages from sentries rockets.

>>24915477
Every class has good and bad situations quit bitching kekekeke.

>>24915555
All melee weapons deal the same damage with the exception of the butterfly knife and the bat.

>>24915511
You must be one of them peeps who are the first to score a head'y on their dumb fucking skull...
Hence you're not credit to the team, because being smart and moving around so that a sniper can't hit you means you stay alive to be credit...

>>24915555
>need to be right next to them

Snipers gain the ability to build laser ladders that shoot up the sky.

>>24915645
Because noticing that everyone who goes sniper has a name like, "-xXx-420BLUNTSMOKEAWESOMESOLIDSNAKESEPHIROTH" totally means I'm butthurt.

Totally.

>>24915555
It crits a lot because snipers tend to do a lot of damage in a short amount of time. That doesn't make the weapon itself any stronger than other melee weapons. Plus, close range != point blank range. Anyone with a shotgun can easily stay out of melee range with ease.

>>24914744
>team fortress 2

>>24915645
>peeps
>heady

Please head back to whichever shit pile you came from please. You are sticking out like a sore thumb here.

100% CRITS FROM BEHIND AND+50HP
AND CHANGE SOMETHING ABOUT HIS OLD RIFLE THAT REMOVES HIS WEAKNESSES TO SPIES

>>24915626
Well yea, that's what I said, it's just that those who usualy get killed off by snipers because they're dumb enough to stand around and get hit are the ones who shittalk about sniper players.
Liek that fag here >>24915511 he's just griefing because he couldn't score in CS and neither can in TF2 - too dumb to spot a red dot.

>>24915768
IN THE COOOOOOLEST CLUB AROUND

SCOUT NEEDS MORE FUCKING AMMO. ONLY HAS 36 BULLETS COMPARED TO THE ENGINEER'S FUCKING 200.

AT LEAST 96 OR SOMETHING COME ON.

>>24915898
THIS.
I will be trying to piss off a sniper or take down a far away sentry and I'll freakin' run out.

>>24915768
Hahaha, oh wow, are you really that butthurt or just plain fucking stupid, mate?
>>24915721
Well duh... nick's like that are indeed very stupid but what does that have to do with narrowing down snipers to awp-whores? Pretty much every team based game out there has some kind of sniper class...

>>24915898
>>24915898
>>24915898
>>24915898
>>24915898
>>24915898
>>24915898
>>24915898

I work for tf2, the sniper pack will be an allusion to the Legend Of Zelda series of games
The kukri will be replaced by a "Master Sword"
The SMG will be replaced with a boomerang
Finally the Rifle will be replaced by a slingshot

>>24915970
I KNOW RIGHT. THE ENGINEER HAS A SENTRY GUN AND A DISPENSER ANYWAY, HE DOESN'T NEED 200+ FUCKING BULLETS. THE SCOUT DOES WITH HIS PUNY 36 BULLETS THAT DON'T KILL SHIT UNLESS THAT PERSON IS AIMBOTTING.

>>24915970
you have the fastest running speed of any class. use it

Sniper should be able to reveal the land mines from the Engy update. GOD DAMMIT I WANT LAND MINES!

CW:ET nostalgia goggles

>>24916008
>I work for tf2
lol wut

SEE YER PEEPS IN MA CROSSHAIR SOON.
CHEERIO MATES!

>>24915991
The key to internet success is to keep your ethnicity hidden, bro.

>>24915898
This PLEASE. 36 is not nearly enough.

>>24914518

Part of the beauty of TF2 is that there's no mini-map and making one JUST so Snipers could mark sentries with it smacks of wasted effort. Just as well, any sentry a sniper could safely mark he could also destroy with minimal effort.

I suppose giving L4D-Vision for these marked sentries would be an elegant way to make them stand out, but there's still the second issue mentioned above.

My guesses for Sniper unlocks, which is essentially what this thread is:

Sniper Rifle unlocks into an Iron Sight Sniper, which is exactly what it sounds like.

SMG which does less damage but is a crit if it hits the head.

Kukri which you can hold mouse2 to charge up and deal a critical strike with it (roughly same rate as 0-100% Charge on the Sniper Scope)

>>24916008
>work for TF2
lol

why all this hate on the spy with the goggles and shit
we have a hard time enough already with everyone shooting thier teammates because of all the ammo available. plus dont forget the pyro that run around and shoot everything. Stop getting all but hurt from the back stab its a kill like everything else

back on topic: sniper class is good how it is.

>>24916121
you have the fastest running speed of any class. use it

>>24916008
Legend Of Zelda SUCKS AAASSSSSSSSSSS

>>24916034
I know what you mean, but 3 extra magazines is a bit shit.

>>24914798


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