looks like no ones going to play demo anymore

source?

well, it was supposed to be used in secret and for defense...

Thank God I don't like the Demoman.

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>24046544 Looks like everyone's going to be prancin aboot with their heads full 'o eyeballs.

Demomen still need some more nerfs, crit nerf their grenades like the soldier's rockets.

>>24046583
Someone never played the original TF. As in, qtf.

Unmovable pipebombs. you couldn't destroy them, and you couldn't move them. I liked it better when the community was thus:

"BAAAWWWWW THAT'S NO FAIR!"
"Too bad, we aren't changing it. find a way around it or quit forever."
"B-b-but"
"we're not changing it. bye."

>>24046583

this.

You were never supposed to fire stickies all over the floor in the first place, they were to make traps.

>Any weapons that fire bullets (shotguns, sniper's machine gun, heavy's minigun, etc.) can now break apart the Demoman's stickybombs

HAHAHAHAHAH SUCK IT DOWN YOU OVERPOWERED FAGS

>>24046666

Back in the old days, we have to walk barefoot to school. During winter!

Now Demomen will actually have to think about where they plan the damn things. There goes their effectiveness.

A crit nade will still be the end of anyone.

Fake. Not listed in site.

WELL ITS NOT LIKE ANYONE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT THIS CASUAL PIECE OF SHIT GAME

>>24046668
Yes.
They weren't however supposed to detonated in mid-air, made to form giant carpets which can't be crossed, or used on the ground while backpedalling.

And what difference does that make? Demo campers are supposed to hide their stickies anyway, the only time when you camp in the open is laying stickies on the CP, and stopping to shoot the bombs one by one will take much longer than either sending someone to die for the team or killing the damn demo.

>>24046760
>back in the old days, tf was good.

fix'd

Goddamned whiners.

In one fell swoop the demoman is balanced.

I'm sorry, am I the only one who thinks this makes perfect sense?

>>24046788

This. I can eat Crit Rockets as Heavy, but one Crit nade is all it takes for me to go down. The fact that I'm a huge target doesn't help either.

>>24046719

>>24046760
uphll! in both directions!

>>24046662
>666
:0

You fags sure got told.

>The Engineer's teleporters can now be upgraded to level three. It will recharge faster the higher level it is

Nice.

>>24046871

Four times!

>>24046849
Entire forum is babies!

Outsmart boolet?
IMPOSSIBLE

JIZZ IN MY PANTS

OH FUCK YES. SEMI ENGINEER UPDATES.

Brotip: Quit getting mad at video games.

>>24046476
fuck yeah finally, fucking demos

You guys have heard of pushing away stickies before right?

It's not necessary for them to be able to break apart.

>>Health packs restores cloaks faster.

Now I can finally get more hours with spah

>>24047084
But everyone hates demos so they should be the worst class ever.

>>24047084
Best moment I can recall was using a shotgun to push a sticky into my sniper teammate.

So do they just disappear, or would they explode, causing damage to anyone stupid enough to shoot at it that close?

>>24047223
>break apart

My guess would be disappear/fall apart without exploding.

>>24046476
But demoniggers never use sticky bombs the right way, so have fun shooting them out of the air.

>>24047467
>the right way.

Glad to see that in video games, we're as stubborn as ever and when someone finds a new way to use a weapon, it's immediately the "wrong way."

Even though they've been using them that way since 1996, when qtf first came out.

Doesn't matter, I put them in corner and you can't shoot at it unless you're right next to it. Or take another route.

This is quickly becoming my most favourite update in any game, ever.

>>24046854
Nope. Sticky cannot outsmart boolet.

>>24047610
Keep telling yourself that, champ. This is a big nerf to Demoman and it has been overdue for a long time.

Your time as the king of TF2 is over, faggot; looks like you might have to play a class that takes some skill.

>>24047610
Enjoy always being on defense, and not being able to use demoman on offense.

>>24047525
Wave dashing isn't wrong, it's just a new way to use a character.

i want tf2 steam friends?

Do explosives break stickies as well? Or is it just boolet?

>>24047223
They shatter into blackened pieces. Then fade away.

The blackened pieces count as ammo btw.

>>24047625
ths mothehubbers!

>>24047724
>Enjoy always being on defense
>Demoman is a defensive class

QUESTIONS FOR THOSE THAT HAVE ACTUALLY ----PLAYED---- WITH THE UPDATE:

Do they break in ONE shot or is it like they have health?
do needles break them?

>>24047864
You can use engineer on offense.

You can't use demoman on offense.

I CAN'T FUCKING FIND ANY GODDAMN SERVERS THAT HAVE THE FUCKING PATCH INSTALLED FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUCK!

>>24047768
Wave dashing is a bug.

detonating stickies in the air is not.

>>24047907
OHKO.

so rawkets wont work?

>>24047913
Funny i always get my highest points on demoman on offense.

>>24047913
Because the demoman's only weapon is the sticky gun.
>>24047941
And stickies detonating in mid air and being used while backpedaling is lazy programming.

>>24048005

NOT ANYMORE

DOHOHOHOHOHO

>>24048005
AFTER the patch that makes stickies destroyable?

>>24048013
>And stickies detonating in mid air and being used while backpedaling is lazy programming.

No, it isn't. It was in the original and it was just fine then. They had every opportunity to take it out of the original - but never did.

Wanna know why? Because the creators intended it to be there.

Explosives just push them around. The only class that doesn't have a bullet weapon at all is the Demoman and Medic.

>>24047960
>>24047907

One hit? hmmmmmmm

and needles?

AREA DENIAL

>>24048191
I don't think needles destroy them.

This does absolutely nothing to hurt me.
I play demoman. I never fag things up by clustering a bunch of stickies in once place to camp.

>>24048041
I'll see as soon as someone updates their server, i'm honestly not too worried they'll have to waste ammo to get rid of them and most likely aim at the ground so i could always toss niggernades at them while their looking down.

>>24048275
However you're using your stickies, "THAT'S NOT HOW YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO USE THEM! THAT'S THE WRONG/LAME/CHEAP/LAZY PROGRAMMING WAY!"

I hope you have damn good aim.

I don't set, I sling.

>>24047724
>>24047706
This is why I hate TF2.

You people act like it's so fucking great but criticize people who play easier classes?

Crits still fuck people's shit up and happen randomly, and killing only makes your crit chance go up.

Fuck TF2.

>>24048273
they do, i was watching some medics practice it.

>>24048354
Really? THAT'S why you hate tf2?

I hate it because it's full of furries.

Unless you can shoot them out of the air this ruins stickies IMO.

Now more people using stickies as a makeshift rocket launcher.

>>24048339
Well that's lazy programming! That's not how you're supposed to use them!

You're supposed to be a defensive class only! You aren't supposed to be able to go on offense!
And you aren't supposed to be able to detonate them in mid-air.

Expect the next patch to remove the ability to air-detonate them.

>>24048413

lol at all the furryhate, sure they are disgusting people worthy of concentration camps, but so are most players in public servers.

GODDAMNIT YOU FAGGOTS I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS I DON'T CARE IF IT'S FAKE I HOPE YOU ALL GET SODOMIZED BY A TELEPHONE POLE

>>24048509
>sure they are disgusting people worthy of concentration camps

Then what's the argument? I have a pretty legitimate reason for not liking tf2 all things considered.

>>24048434
Man, that would seriously nerf demoman.
That would have me a little concerned, because it would really ruin demo's ability to go offensive.

>>24048691
I'm pretty sure you can shoot them out of the air.

>>24046666
>>24047525
>>24048103
you fags even PLAY TF? you couldn't launch the anywhere NEAR as far, and those people that backpedaled while using them had to do it properly, so they didn't just bounce fuck all nowhere. it was actually BALANCED (btw, remember emp grenades? those things that detonated them?), that's why it didn't change. face it, this nerf is good, although not what i would have done.

>>24048691

its called a grenade launcher, Demomen have a primary you know.

I'm new to TF2, but, if the demoman can't detonate the stickybombs in the air, HTF does he fight off anything?

Defensive or not, you have to be able to kill shit on demand in FPS, right?

>>24048763
It was just as easy to air-detonate them then as it is now.

In fact, it was easier back then compared to now, because you could detonate IMMEDIATELY after firing them in QTF, whereas in tf2 you have to wait 2-3 seconds.

>>24048799
GRENADE FUCKING LAWN CHAIR. seriously. you demoniggers DO realise you have TWO other weapons, right?

>>24048799

See

>>24048782

>>24048763
You also forget that in QTF, the demoman's primary grenade launcher exploded on contact, even after bouncing.

In tf2, if it touches the ground, even once, it will no longer explode on contact.

The only downside is that you can no longer protect caps as easily, you can only ambush with stickies.

>>24048872
air detonate isn't really the problem, the problem is faggots that are just backpedaling, looking at the ground, and spamming detonate while they shoot stickies straight down.

ATTN DEMOMEN:
>HAHAHA FAGGOTS
That is all

Good. Damn good.

>>24048978
Again -
2-3 second delay before detonation. Maybe when you see them look down at the ground you should stop running after them and back off for a second? Just a thought.

HAHAHHA FUCK YOU OVERPOWERED NIGGERS EAT A DICK

HEY GUYS I HAVE AN IDEA, CHARACTERS IN THE OFFENSE, DEFENSE, AND SUPPORT CATEGORIES ARE ONLY CAPABLE OF BEING USED FOR THAT PURPOSE. YOU CAN'T PLAY DEFENSE AS A SOLDIER AND YOU CAN'T PLAY OFFENSE WITH A DEMO.

AND THERE'S NO FUCKING WAY YOU CAN DO ANYTHING BUT HEAL YOUR TEAMMATES AS A MEDIC.

Also, ITT: gullible people.

FINALLY.

Stickies are not offensive weapons. They're supposed to be used for traps. You're supposed to die from stickies that you walk into unawares - if you see them, you should be able to destroy them.

However, you'll still be able to use stickies as primary weapon - most demos just blow them up instantly anyway.
This really only helps engies, who can now hold out for a few more seconds against a single demo.

>>24046666

You never threw EMPs at pipes?

Besides, real demos back in the day used pipes as a proximity grenade launcher. Nobody laid traps.

>>24049030
never chase a demo. You will die.

>>24049030
good point. demomen should have complete impunity to anyone chasing them. if it WAS 2-3 seconds, i'd be ecstatic, but it's currently about a second at most, which gives them just enough time to be completely clear of the blast radius before it explodes on whoever is chasing them. and again, this takes literally no skill or experience to do, you just aim straight down, run away, mash mouse2.

>>24049357
Strawman to the rescue once again!

This doesn't do a damn thing to fix the demo.

All it does is slightly nerf his defensive game, which is supposed to be godly. Stickies are still broken as hell in offense.

A demoman who spends enough time to master his class can dominate any other class. All that can take out an expert demo is a spy or a sniper that the demo hasn't spotted yet.

every other class has a counterbalance class that can totally fuck them up, except for demos. This nerf has been a long time coming.

>>24049530

scouts

>>24049407
arguments go:

10 point
20 counter-point
30 goto 10

not

10 point
20 counter-point
30 "LOL, i say you fallacied, i win"

you said that my point was invalid because they have 2-3 seconds, which gives you enough time to see the grenade and stop chasing them. i pointed out that the time frame is MUCH shorter, and that even if you decided this didn't change the circumstance, you're still giving demomen a free ticket out of any sticky situation (pardon the pun). to make it short and sweet, scouts should be able to own the shit out of demomen if they get close, not get blown up in a second while trying to stick with the fucker.

This thread is undeniable proof that all TF2 players are mentally retarded.

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

>>24049530
Anyone with common sense.
Seriously. Don't chase after a demo in a straight line.
If you see a hallway caked with stickies, find a way around.

>>24049558
read
>>24049357

Now how am I supposed to carpet capture points with sticky fields :(

>>24049793
have you read any part of the thread aside from that post? if you DO "go around", the demoman simply starts laying stickies straight down while running away, at which point you can either chase him, and die, or bail on the fight, wasting time.

>>24049558
Scoots can get instagibbed by one sticky or nade, two if they're lucky.

It's not a matter of if, it's when. Especially since they have to get right into the motherfucking demo's face to do any real damage with the scattergun.

>>24049898
Stop whining. They can only lay down 8 at a time, and if he sees you going around (protip: wait until he can't, or fake him out so he can get killed by someone else with a better angle, or so that you can just run and double jump past them if you're a scoot) and starts laying more, it'll remove some from the area he was guarding. Not only that, but you can probably attack him head on now.

>>24049902
Double-jump. Pistol spam from a distance.
Jesus, people are stupid.

>>24049898
Don't fucking chase him then, guns are ranged for a reason.