What's that? I just finished pirating the new PoP for free!

We have to pay for the servers because they're actually being used.

>>23398839

By loudmouthed twelve year olds who use the word fuck and shit every chance given.

>>23398839

>We have to pay for the servers

No you don't. Marketplace access is free for everyone who gets an xbox live silver account.

what you pay for is console host matchmaking. Which PC has been doing for free and what PS3 does for free.

>>23398895
mute all except friends, have fun

>>23398921

>...and what PS3 does poorly for free.

>>23398839
I know you're just another shitty troll, but just in case somebody actually believes you, the PSN has over 14 million active accounts.

>>23398955
No.

Stop lying to yourself. PSN and XBL are the same shit. Only difference is one costs money.

>>23398955

So I guess Xbox Live has never failed ever and is problem free 24/7 and never has glitches because you pay for that service rite?

>>23398921
That's because Microsoft set up their own Matchmaking servers to make sure no single game is shut down due to lack of motivation from Publishers and other hosting Companies like Internode, PS2 matchmaking and game servers shut down, PC servers are eventually abandoned and shut down.

>>23398921

PS3 is free for a couple of reasons. No killer games with serious multiplayer aspects. Piss poor service which fucks up and drops connections a lot.

I like my PS3, but I fully understand why they don't ask for me to pay for it. And if they did, I wouldnt. Not even a fiver a year.

>>23398767
hey thanks. i will. i'll also enjoy being able to play any online game worldwide. i love beating up italians. smug bastards.

>>23398984
ITT: PS3 owners try to defend it's inferior online capabilities

Buyer's remorse sucks doesn't it?

Have another FREE wallpaper courtesy of the PSN store.

>>23398839
live doesn't have servers, lol.

>>23399022
They would start charging for it if it had a greatly enhanced UI and better servers, I'd be fine with giving 5 a year for a better service.

>>23399009
Individual games will shut down.

When Live screws up, all games are down.

>>23399046
So then please explain to me why XBL is better than PSN.
Feature for feature, its the exact same shit.

Oh.
Oh wait.
8/10
Damn you're good.

Live is £40 a year, that's like a few pence per day. Considering I have maybe one disconnect per every 100 hours of gaming (and that's at a push, most of the time it's some fucker with a poor connection raping my game), I'd consider it money damn well spent.

My friend has a PS3 and he's constantly bitching about how poor the PS online thing is. He mocks me for paying for Live, but then again I'm not the one throwing controllers at the wall every single night due to yet another dropped game.

>>23398767

I hope you're enjoying your free songs. I know I am.

>>23399009
And when Live goes under, NONE of your games will work online.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

>>23399072
Yes, matchmaking doesn't have it's own servers, on every system if a Publisher wants a game to have Dedi-servers, they have to do it themselves, they're not cost-effective and are only needed in high-player games.

Let's get this into your thick skull, just because resistance and Warhawk have dedi-servers on PSN doesn't mean PSN has dedi-servers for every game.

For example, you moron, COD4 on PS3 has the same matchmaking and host system as Halo 3 and COD4 on Xbox LIVE, and likewise Left4Dead on the 360 uses Matchmaking and puts the team on one of VALVES own set-up Dedicated servers.

Do your research before deciding to be a blind fanboy.

>>23399067

Aw man, I wish we got free themes and stuff from Live and free wallpapers from EVERY GAME DEVELOPER TRYING TO SELL GAMES.

Oh wait...

>>23399115
p.s 3 is region locked online. people in the u.k can't play games with people in the u.s. the only exceptions i know of are ridge racer 7 and LBP. in the u.k, the p.s 3 REALLY suffers. also, they get all the PSN store items weeks after the u.s.

>>23399115
My friend had the same issue when he was playing Resistance 2, I couldn't stop laughing at him.

>>23399113
Okay, go ahead and play some Resistance having 3 text chats with people simultaneously, with live voice chat with someone on top of that, then someone inviting you straight into a Resistance 2 Co-Op game *without* having to quit out of your campaign and set up the game manually with your friend.

OH WAIT YOU CAN'T

>>23399191
Um, no?
I play almost all of my games with friends from England.
Only ones that don't let me I've found are Motorstorm and MGO.

>>23399009

are you serious? a matchmaking server does little more than a bittorrent tracker. there are no gameservers at all, they host games on your xbox.

the money microsoft could make from advertising or do make from advertising (depending on if you work out the extra income from pushing their own games) on the first xbox live screen will dwarf the running costs of any gold services.

xbox live is a scam.

>>23399191

lol, so PS users can't even smack down Americans? That's most of the fun on Live, the snotty 12 yr old faggots squealing about how they're pro MLG players, then spanking them and all they can say is 'SHUT UP U BRITISH, UR SO FUCKING BRITISH MAN, GAWD THIS GAME SUCKS!'.

Ah, good times.

>>23399139
Oh no, I will have to deal with an hour every Year or less because some hackers or fuckers are messing with the servers!

That's so much worse than disconnecting from every game!

>>23399265
Actually most PSN servers are global.
As I stated before, the only ones I've found that don't work are Motorstorm and MGO.

There are free game updates and content for xbl as well, what kind of bullshit is this? THEY'RE THE SAME THING

>>23399245
i'm guessing you play games using dedicated servers. i think GTA4 allows worldwide online play because it's powered by gamespy...same would apply to MK vs DC but i haven't bothered to play that yet.

fucking tekken DR sucks online though. can't play that worldwide. and it fucking lags like fuck.

fuck.

>>23399274
Odd.
I play Resistance 2 with the /v/ clan Manly Tears almost every day and I've been disconnected a total of maybe 3 times.

Enjoy making up lies to stave off buyer's remorse.

£40 a year is breaking my bank.

>>23399356
Hmmm 3 disconnects on the PS3 or zero on the 360...

>>23399325

there's free bug fixes. microsoft won't allow publishers to give free content unless it's been out for months and nobody is paying for it.

>>23399397
>zero on the 360
Ahahaha.
Keep telling yourself that.

>>23399397

Play some public Gears 2. I get dropped every minute.

>>23399263
They advertise new things on Xbox LIVE because they get a cut from sales on the marketplace, they don't get payed a cent for advertising.

>there are no gameservers at all, they host games on your xbox

You seriously don't know how fucking online works do you?

Okay, I'll repeat it for you.

Resistance 2 PSN: Dedicated servers SET UP BY THE PUBLISHERS BECAUSE THERE ARE 60+ PLAYERS MAXIMUM IN ONE GAME+Matchmaking
COD4 on PSN: Matchmaking servers

COD4 on XBL: Matchmaking Servers
Left4Dead: Matchmaking+Dedicated servers.

Do you understand yet? Sony does NOT set up dedicated servers for every game on PSN, they don't even have their own matchmaking server farm like XBL, meaning sooner or later, all your PS3 games will go offline.

PUBLISHERS AND DEVELOPERS choose to set up Dedicated Servers out of their own money for the consumer. Sony publishes Resistance and Resistance 2, and have their own dedicated servers for THOSE GAMES and others that they publish.

>>23399356

How does a simple tripfag go about joing Manly Tears?

>>23399463

Whoops. I meant joining.

>>23399439
I live in Ausfailia and I've had one drop-out on a GoW2 match out of over 50 random matches.

>>23399463
Send a msg to the PSN ID: ZOE2nd
We mostly play MGO and Resistance 2, but we're really down for anything.

>>23399022
this, i have a ps3 and had an xbox last gen with live and it was worth it, wouldn't pay for psn

1.PSN servers really aren't shit. I've had no troubles over any game on the PS3. Also, when I had a 360, I didn't have any troubles either.

Guess why? Because my internet connection isn't shitty.

2. As someone stated before, Live could be free or even cheaper if they just used all that money they get from Ads. But they won't.

3. Dicks

4. Sony servers will eventually go down, since they are based off of the dev's intentions. Fortunely, the good games have a pretty good following like Warhawk, so they aren't going anywhere for a long ass time.

When everyone stops playing the game on Live is around the time the servers will be cut for PSN. End result is the same.

5.Whoever said the games are region locked on the PSN is a liar. Go play Resistance 2 and look at all the Japs

...console war...console war never changes...

>>23399397
>Hmmm 3 disconnects on the PS3 or zero on the 360...
SUP BRO
I HERD U LIEK DROPPAN GAEMS

>>23399519
the fucking LBP developers said it themselves. some games are region locked. hell they had to do...something...can't remember what, to get it working online region free.

>>23399505

I will suck his cock because of his PSN.

>>23399568
Actually it was just a rumor that LBP servers were going to be regional.

>>23399568
My bad, I thought you were stating all PSN games. Which I should state that many aren't.

Oh well.

The games are, so doesn't matter much to me.

>>23399451

lol. so angry.

i don't get what you're so mad about. what i said is true. paying for matchmaking is a scam because you're hosting the game. ok there's an exception, but so what? i wasn't defending the ps3, i was just saying live is a scam and you shouldn't have to pay for it.

p.s. PC will never have problems with multiplayer. even mmorpgs have private servers.

>>23399737
You still don't get it do you?

You've never actually worked with Matchmaking servers, have you?

>>23399554

O h my god, I love gears 2, but deathmatch is unbearable.

LOL I'M AN AMERICAN, I'M IMMUNE TO MULTIPLE SHOTGUN ROUNDS AND DO NOTHING BUT CHAINSAW EVERYTHING BECAUSE IT GRAVITY CHAINSAW PULLS EVERYONE FROM 50 FEET AWAY LOLOLOL

inb4 stop being in britain. I didn't have this problem with fucking Gaylo.

>>23399863
Tell me one reason why XBOX Live charges for providing exactly the same shit PC and Sony have been doing for years and adding advertisement on top of that.
Hellgate London much?

>>23399942
I am offended because I am Amerikkkan and I don't do this

>>23399863

what you mean behind the scenes?

i know how matchmaking works. i've researched it and worked with skill level algorithms. i know a pathetically nerdy amount about it.

i understand exactly what you're saying, but seriously it could even be done decentralised.


and yeah yeah blah blah and scalable and low cost means it won't be discontinued is what i presume you're getting at.

pc games tend to have a tick box in your search filters to have no empty or full servers showing. there's no skill based matchmaking, but whatever, it doesn't make it worth paying for.

>>23399942
Perhaps you are the real problem.
Perhaps your shotgun is shooting blanks, and you are running right into the chainsaw unconsciously.

>>23400193
Maybe the deathmatch is just fucking shit and way too biased towards American connections. It's full of tourneyfags and 12 yr olds anyway, talking tough and thinking they're pro. I'll stick with the far superior Horde mode.

>>23400139
Sorry to offend, it's not all of you, just the fucking majority.

>>23400094
Advertisements is usually at the end of the developer or publisher, and Sony stupidly let the US side of their online service lag.
They LET Microsoft set up shop in that area and have paid dearly for it ever since. PSN is still picking up speed despite the fact that Sony has had an online service since 2000. Just another part of Sony's arrogance that got them shot in the foot.

>Whoever said the games are region locked on the PSN is a liar. Go play Resistance 2 and look at all the Japs

I'm getting fucking tired of putting on my headset and hearing nothing but fucking slant speak, fuckers suck a fat ball sack. Asians can not play shooters.

>>23400343

Thank God I don't have one then, huh?