Game companies are pissed at gamestop. They want them to die

Is that... T & C MOTHER FUCKING SURF DESIGN ? Holy Shit !

So?

Nintendo still makes innovative games and they want to defend their property rights. What's wrong with that?

>>22767635

I hope you're a troll, this is obviously abusive behavior on nintendo's part.

>>22767635
>innovative

just because you "innovate" doesn't mean it's a good thing. Wii Music is an "innovation", but then again, so was spam.

Gamestop sucks though.This is a good thing.

i saw soul calibur 4 for $55 used
its $60 new
i wouldnt mind some changes

>>22767635
>innovative

>>22767674
Isn't everyone doing this shit now, though? Didn't GoW2 have codes for multiplayer maps?

This is going to get out of hand, I know it.

>>Nintendo
>>innovative games

Hardly a surprise.

any moron can see that the majority of pirates wouldn't have bought a game anyway and would instead focus on winning back the customers that pirate due to convenience/price/quality by making high quality game available for internet download at half the price.

but instead they waste money trying to force people to do things there way and if they take the same attitude with secondhand trading they will just piss money away AGAIN and just piss off customers AGAIN.

Here it comes. Consolefriends always criticized PC for having draconian DRM measures. Now look who's being locked out of games for buying used?

You fags sure got told.

This is why I pirate games.

I just thought of something.

The wii speak isnt implemented yet, right?
as in, nobody should be able to have the channel, right?
as in, the press release should be controlled as to keep leaks from spreading pirated copies, right?

as in YOU HAVE TO TYPE IN A CODE BECAUSE THE GODDAMN GAME ISNT AVAILABLE YET.

im just saying. I hate nintendo as much as the next guy, but this doesn't sound like anti-anything, considering its an advance copy of a game with a new system that has not been implemented.

Do you have any fucking idea what the Wii Speak Channel is? Protip: Wii Speak works with games without having to download the channel.

why the fuck would i want some faggots second hand microphone

>>22767822

This is pretty much what should be said in all these types of threads now.

It ain't right man. I like getting used games because I like owning the game. That's the main reason I don't pirate. Now game companies are going to try to prevent people from getting their money for the games? I mean, the games had to be purchased for full price first, so they got the money from the sale. Now they're mad that they aren't getting money from a game they already got money from?

Bullshit.

People would actually use that channel. More to the point, the channel would actually work?

OH, JOHNNY I CAN'T HEAR YOU. LAG. LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG.

Hopefully the vidya will go through the RIAA cycle faster than most industries have,k and realize that "oh shit they'll just pirate it if we make it hard" and instead work to make games cheap and ready.

I read something in a GameInformer from a few months back about the increase of this. Something about having to pay to fight the final boss or some shit. I hope this doesn't take hold.

Nintendo has always been overly-paranoid about piracy and second-hand sales. Limiting Wii Speak may actually do a lot to kill their casual crowd, lol.

Do these people have short term memory only or what? It was announced a couple months ago. 500 Wii Points to download the pointless channel for those who don't buy Wii Speak new.

>>22767928
They are mad because more people are getting the full product at the price of one.And those other people are giving thier money to gamestop not the developers who actually deserve the money in the first place.

>There is no other way to download the channel. Without the channel, the Wii Speak hardware is just a useless microphone.

lol WAD Installer. That's kind of encouraging piracy. People who purchase it second-hand will need to use the homebrew WAD Installer to access the Wii Speak software and what's to stop them from also using it to install VC and WiiWare games once they've learned how to use it?

>>22767928
one guy buys it
he sells it and it gets bought 4 more times
could of been 5 new game sales

woot thanks video game faggot companies for pumping the return of other, better forms of entertainment

>>22767793
>they waste money trying to force people to do things there way
>there

When epic said this, rage ensued. When nintendo says this niitenfags eat it all up.

nintendo always becomes an ass when their in first. Where is your innovation now?

Other sites reported this without the troll in the OP article. The code is for the Wii Speak Channel, which is a chat room for the Wii. Can't play games while using it, games that use the peripheral don't even check for the existence of the channel.

>>22768198
grammar troll is shit tier.

enjoy your fail.

Didn't they also included a code to download map packs for Gears of War 2? THE MOTHRFUCKING GAM SHIPPED WITH A CODE TO DOWNLOAD MAPS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED
FUCK YOU PORRFAGS, EITHER BUY IT OR MISS THE AWESOME REHASHAN MAP PACK
Fuck this.

>>22768215
>nintendo always becomes an ass when their in first.
>their

>>22768246
>grammar

>>22768215
Umm actually I support Epics actions as well.It won't hurt peeps who bought a new game like true video game supporters should/would.

for the speak module I understand why... the hardware probably retains everything you say somewhere accessible from data-retrieval... they are probably trying to protect 2nd-hand users from future prosecution for illegal behavior online

>>22768270

When their [CONSOLE] is in first

I thought you fags would understand that the console was implied. A company cannot be in first.

>>22768018
the latest system update killed WAD installers, and they don't know how to fix it still. HBC and homebrew works, but fakesigning doesn't, which makes all wads useless.

>>22768215
Nintendo has no good games so they have to do it with kiddy shit like Animal Crossing that only old people, kids and a few neckbeards are gonna buy.

99.9999% of nintendo owners now are very young children, who waste their afternoons playing Spyro, Ice Age, and Petz Cats. The few remaining are a bunch of useless faggots in their mid 30s who are somehow convinced that the wii is an actual game system, and that they themselves represent the base. Picture related.

ITT: Derailment

My point is that Nintendo fanshits have always toted it as the company on the side of gamers and Sony and MS are greedy corporations out there to screw the customer.

They're the Apple fanboys of gaming and they just got told.

I don't care who you are or what company you work for, this shit is downright despicable.

>>22768498

I'm pretty sure people Who are enjoying Wii are young adults with friends and kids.

>>22767548

Is that Tombs & Treasure on the far right? Fuck yeah, I think it is!

That game was so rad.

Buying used is stealing.

>FAGGATRON_3000 !U0FKfqmRjs

MY WII SURE JUST GOT SOLD.

Wow, wtf Nintendo that is so unlike you.

Oh well I still don't think it compare to Cliffy's idea of making game endings DLC.

>>22768510
>They're the Apple fanboys of gaming and they just got told.

I'm pretty sure Nintendo has been telling off it's fanbase before this.

>>22768270
>>22768330
More fail.

stick with what you know though. it's not like you can do any real trolling anyway.

>>22767893
Second'd

What irks me is this.

We won't be able to play these systems forever. Unlike past generations, where the games can be played forever regardless of whether or not the company is still supporting the platform, the newer junk is going to go obsolete, and we're going to lose the ability to play stuff we already bought.

Nintendo hates the used games market more than the piracy scene.

Boy you fag sure got told.

BUYING USED VIDEO GAMES IS STEALING
BORROWING BOOKS FROM A LIBRARY IS STEALING
BUYING USED CARS IS STEALING
BUYING SECONDHAND FURNITURE IS STEALING
BUYING A HOUSE THAT WASN'T BUILT FOR YOU IS STEALING

FUCK YOU GUYS ARE NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF GODDAMN CROOKS YOU'RE GOING TO BURN IN HELL

>>22768625
Wasn't Cliffy

GOD WHAT THE HELL, FUCK NINTENDO
So, how is this related to chat-supported games

>>22768799
Haven't you figured it out yet? the law is just a tool to exploit the poor while the rich can simply pay to ignore the rules the poor must follow.

power and politics is just a game of thieves and perverts trying to protect themselves from being punishable for their crimes.

Nintendo is highly innovative. No other corporation has explored methods such as these and employed them in such an assholish fashion so as to entirely alienate its customers.

>>22769020
i kinda would broseph

OH SNAP!

>>22767548


lol. I'm certain someone, somewhere will find a way to mod it with Homebrew.

>Nintendo
>innovative games

>>22767548

It's funny because anybody could sympathize with the principal of the matter, but ultimately, this kind of industry civil war will only hurt the consumer.

ok, no. This is stupid. All of you saying this is ok, are stupid. All of you saying that the used market is killing videogames, are stupid.

Lets run through this:

When you pirate, 1 person buys a game, (sometimes no one buys a game) and then thousands of people can play it and own it ALL AT THE SAME TIME, even though 1 or none of the physical product sold.

When you buy used, just as with cars, hardware, houses, etc., when you buy it used, either from a store that bought it from a person (gamestop) or straight from another person, that original owner CAN NO LONGER ENJOY THE PRODUCT, SINCE THEY NO LONGER HAVE IT.

So, company X gets mad that a used game can be sold and sold and sold so many times and they only see profit from the first sale.

They are not entitled to that money. They are only entitled to the sale of 1 physical object. Sure, if i buy a used game, company x sees no money, but company x also didn't have to print another copy of a game for me to buy. They payed no additional manufacturing costs for the product i'm playing, so why should they be entitled to my money?

This is all greed. Companies aren't "hurt" by used game sales, used game sales are simply an area of profit that is out of their reach, but they want it anyway. If a company says they are hurt by used game sales, it means they feel they should be payed multiple times for manufacturing 1 copy of a game. That's the same logic as expecting someone who pays full price for a game to pay full price again 3 or 4 times, because the company feels they should have that money.

Really, the videogame industry is composed of the greediest assholes i've ever seen, and because i've seen no one mention this aspect of it before, /v/ is full of idiots. But that's not a surprise.

Piracy can hurt. Keyword "can"
Used game sales can never hurt, and any company saying so is a greedy asshole that wants to make money multiple times off of the same manufactured object.

>So, company X gets mad that a used game can be sold and sold and sold so many times and they only see profit from the first sale.

>They are not entitled to that money. They are only entitled to the sale of 1 physical object.

Tell that to the music industry, they'll laugh at you until they're blue in the face. Then a kind soul will explain to you the concept of royalties.

>Nintendo
>Sales

>>22769525
I was about to point out the same thing.

Music industry gets paid out the ass for radio plays, music videos, you name it.

>>22769384
except with games, the product you buy used is literally as good as brand new. it's like piracy, except you're giving someone money to rip you off. they have a good reason to be pissed about used games.

you think if every car sold used was as good as new the auto companies wouldn't lose a fuckton of money?

>>They payed no additional manufacturing costs for the product i'm playing, so why should they be entitled to my money?

because the cost to the company on games is 90% manufacturing right? nevermind the money they put in to develop it, correct?

i love it when 13 year olds try to bullshit about things they know nothing about.

>>22769375
>It's funny because anybody could sympathize with the principal of the matter
orly? I know I can't.

>>22769525

royalties only apply selling multiples of 1 item, not selling the same item over and over again.

The music industry gets upset because no one sells a cd to another person without copying all the music to their own computer first. Or they just make a copy of the cd and give it to someone while retaining the original. Royalties applies here because of the creation of copies, or in their eyes, more product.

that has nothing to do with used game sales, since i can't simply make a copy of my game and then sell it to gamestop, or sell them a copy and keep the original (piracy excluded).

Royalties does not apply here. And if i bought a cd from a store, never opened it, never made a copy, never did anything that creates more of the music on that cd, and then turned around and sold it to someone else, i would be completely protected under our consumer laws, and the record companies couldn't touch me.

>>22767548
Michael?