inb4rage

I said it before and will say it again, probably: the game needs at least some kind of grindan, like Crimsonland perks.

Isn't that all shooter games in a nutshell.

>>22712424

I'm a big fan of Crimsonland and all, but

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>>22712435
Not all
This one has no variation, multiplayer shooters do

Depends on how fun (and balanced) versus mode will be.

It will be like Fable where the "fun" thing to do is set a self-handicap for yourself.

- Play without flashlights
- Set off alarms
- Pistols only
- No medpacks
- etc.

>Will it really stand the test of time?

Does any game? No, only in the eyes of nostalgiafag fanboys.

50$ for a third party professional mod that was bought up by valve over 3 yrs ago.

you'd think theyd come up with something other than generic random enemies that constantly run towards you.


i'd rather it be something like,, you know.. like a zombie movie

>>22712485
Seriously, I agree with OP about repetitiveness. Maps/monsters/weapons would not solve anything really.

Will it really stand the test of time? I've only played the demo a couple of times, but already the gameplay is pretty repetitive. All you do is move along, wait for the next group of redead, repeatedly press the cut button and scream "FUCKING RELOAD", occasionally press the melee attack button, and then move on to the next area where there's another pack of redead to kill exactly the same way.

>All you do is move along, wait for the next group of Covenant, hold down the fire button and scream "FUCKING RELOAD", occasionally press the melee attack button, and then move on to the next area where there's another pack of Covenant to kill exactly the same way.

Halo is the same way.

>>22712516
Shut the fuck up, you know what he meant.
I agree with OP, I've only played the demo but I can say now that I won't be buying it. Seems way too shallow and repetitive.
Just wondering: how many maps will the game ship with?

>Game sucks, its just a mod.

This is the worst reasoning ever. Through this logic, Mass Effect is a Gear of War mod because they both use UNREAL3.

JUST BECAUSE A GAME USES THE SAME ENGINE DOESN'T MEAN ITS A SIMPLE MOD.

Ho-lee-shit. Your Valve hatred seems to be clouding actual, logical thoughts.

Will it really stand the test of time? I've only played the demo a couple of times, but already the gameplay is pretty repetitive. All you do is move along, wait for the next group of metroids, hold down the fire button and scream "FUCKING RELOAD", occasionally press the missile button, and then move on to the next area where there's another pack of metroids to kill exactly the same way.

How many games can you get together with a bunch of friends and work together to survive a zombie outbreak? Since they took down the RE:Outbreak servers there aren't many.

The more I think about it guys, I miss Outbreak.

>>22712365

Yeah, playing the same spot over and over again get repetitive. I'm surprised you noticed.

The game is only fun with friends, and with friend's it's a blast. And anything but expert mode is pussymode.

Don't say "I can run through expert moded without taking any damage" cause you're a bitch for playing with bots.

>>22712733
>you're

>>22712490
this game has multiplayer, you dipshit

playing as zombies will be interesing, give another spin on it.

bet it will have good replay value

>>22712507
Self-handicaps in a multiplayer survival game. Yeah, sounds like a great idea. Enjoy being shot.

>>All you do is move along, wait for the next group of enemies, hold down the fire button and scream "FUCKING RELOAD", occasionally press the melee attack button, and then move on to the next area where there's another pack of enemies to kill exactly the same way.

Every FPS ever.

/thread.

Will it really stand the test of time? I've only played the demo a couple of times, but already the gameplay is pretty repetitive. All you do is skate along, aim for the next group of ramps, hold down the jump button and scream "FUCKING GRAB SOME AIR", occasionally press the switch button, and then move on to the next area where there's another halfpipe to skate exactly the same way.

>>22712765
I don't know why people hate valve, I mean they fucking gave you the orange box which gave you about 6 games for 50 dollars spoiled bastard

>>22712533
>generic random enemies that constantly run towards you.

You mean like boss zombies? Really, those are the meat of the game and its going to be even crazier when they're human-controlled.

>i'd rather it be something like,, you know.. like a zombie movie

So you want random enemies that constantly limp slowly towards you

>>22712365

I agree. the game should throw in a dish washing simulator between levels, or a game of tetris in order to get ammo sometimes, or perhaps a spelling bee to beat the witch sometimes.

What the fuck do you expect stupid, its a FPS about fighting your way threw a horde of zombies!

OP is asking clearly for more minigames and quicktime events.

>>22712533
>>i'd rather it be something like,, you know.. like a zombie movie

Left 4 Dead IS LIKE A ZOMBIE MOVIE.

IT EVEN HAS MOVIE GRAIN HOLY SHIT YOU'RE A DUMBFUCK

Will it really stand the test of time? I've only played the beta a couple of times, but already the gameplay is pretty repetitive. All you do is move along, pick up a quest, repeatedly kill the same npc, occasionally eat some food, and then move on to the next area where there's another quest ready for you.

Will it really stand the test of time? I've only played the demo a couple of times, but already the gameplay is pretty repetitive. All you do is move along, wait for the next group of goombas, hold down the fire button and scream "FUCKING RELOAD", occasionally press the jump button, and then move on to the next area where there's another pack of goombas to kill exactly the same way.

HMMMM

Demo is only available for preorders -
Game is highly acclaimed.

Demo is open to everyone -
QQshitstorm

GTFO off my game srsly.

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Some of us really really love co-op gameplay.

Sure there's plenty of mods out there but nobody playing them.

That's why having a polished professional game like this be released is good. Because it will have a large player base.

Honestly I can't understand why people are getting so butthurt over this game. It's not like it murdered your parents or something. Why the grudge?

someone post the commands for the crazy zombie spawn if you're hosting a server.

Ye, I liked it the first two times, now its feels really dull. Im hoping the real thing will be better.

>>22712960
>>Demo is only available for preorders -
>>Game is highly acclaimed.

People who are willing to blindly pay full price for a game before it comes out are also the kind of people who will blindly defend it at all costs.

See, the point of copy+pasting the text and putting it to a different game is to show that "the same can be said of many excellent games", but this isn't even relevant, so it doesn't actually say anything.

Will it really stand the test of time? I've only played the demo a couple of times, but already the gameplay is pretty repetitive. All you do is move along, wait for the next group of zombies, hold down the fire button and scream "FUCKING RELOAD", occasionally press the melee attack button, and then move on to the next area where there's another pack of zombies to kill exactly the same way.

>>22713010

I forgot the game cost 5 dollars, bro

>>22712958
>>All you do is move along, wait for the next group of goombas, hold down the fire button and scream "FUCKING RELOAD"

I lol'd.

>>22712976
>>Honestly I can't understand why people are getting so butthurt over this game. It's not like it murdered your parents or something. Why the grudge?

Hello newfag.

>I only played 2 levels of a demo and I can tell you right now this game won't be good.

So, that means... you won't be wasting server space by fucking around on my fun game? Joy!

every game ever is the same way

>>22713010
I preordered Far Cry 2 and I fucking hate it.

>>22713047
You know all the people on steam (the overwhelming majority of L4D players) who pre-ordered the game?

The pre-order cost them $45.99.

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>>22713088
You didn't pay $50 to play farcry before it came out.

if $50 is a lot of money for you;

Stop playing games

Go to fucking college for a year

Get a job in the $30k range

???

Profit!

>>22713114

The demo is free bro.

Go play it.

For free.

>>22713164
ITT: We don't pay attention to the previous posts in the thread:


>>Demo is only available for preorders -
>>Game is highly acclaimed.

>>Demo is open to everyone -
>>QQshitstorm

I just played it with my friend who isn't very good at the shootan, and it was fun looking out for him, giving him pills/medkits etc.

As he started to get the hang of it towards the end of the second area, it was pretty fucking awesome. Until the end, when one faggot spooked the witch at the same time as pressing the button for the door to open. Noone was ready, faggot got witch'd, some other random dude got smoker'd but we couldnt reach him to free him, and me and my friend had our backs against the wall fighting hordes of zombies.

Once the door was open enough for us to crawl through we did, and as I cleared the stairs a hunter leapt onto my friend and started raping him. I looked back and knew I had no chance of rescuing him, so i forged a path up the stairs with my shotgun, ran through the flames of a molotov I'd thrown earlier and entered the safe room, the only player still alive.

It was his first time on the demo, and although he died, he thought it was fucking fantastic.

>>22712365
In my country, 30k a year is a shitty income. Especially after going to College.

>>22712365
The true test will be with creative map-makers. The possibilities are certainly there. Let's see what we end up with.

>>22713146
>>Go to fucking college for a year
>>Get a job in the $30k range

lolno.

Also $30k a year is chump change.

>>22712932
Yeah, it really is just like the zombie movies these days where they're fast and swarm in packs. Killing mindless zombies IS fun, but it's nice to see this change of pace.

>>22713196

ITT: we bitch for no reason.

Someone repeated something wrong, someone got something corrected repeated back to them.

>All you do is trundle along, wait for the next group of rails, hold down the ollie button and scream "FUCKING RELOAD", occasionally press the grab trick button, and then move on to the next park where there's another pack of rails to grind exactly the same way.

It's the same for all fucking games.

I've hated every Valve game since Half-Life 1.

I think Gabe Newell is a fat horrible fuck who can't get anything done in a timely fashion because he's a complacent fucker drunk on his own success.

I think Half-Life 2 is an over-rated minigame bundle that is basically a rail shooter with free look. I think the plotline is stupid, the characters are all fucking shallow and the gameplay is positively insipid.

I think TF2 is a clusterfuck spamfest with unbalanced classes made constantly worse with asymmetric class upgrades. Not even it's "cute" characters are enough to make it good.

I hate Steam for the obvious reasons.

I also hate zombie movies because they're formulaic and the fanbase is retarded.

That being said, I love Left 4 Dead. I've clocked over 10 hours on the demo and it no longer provides much of a challenge to me but still I play it.
Though I recognize its faults, I enjoy the core gameplay greatly. I hate the price but eh, I bought Mass Effect and Bioshock at full price and only played those one time through. L4D will provide far more enjoyment.

Fuck all you trolls that hate this game for such shoddy reasons. Stop gettin mad at video games.

>>22713225
Cars. Everywhere.

>>22713209
Sounds like you had an awesome game, I bet you guys where laughing and screaming the whole time, it's obvious people who don't like this game don't have friends.

>>22713029

It says you're thinking too much you fucking moron.

Games are repetitive. We play them until we get bored of them. From my experience with L4D I will not quickly become bored, but hell it will happen, something else will come along and I'll say shitsux and go play that.

Or should I assume you have only played one game your whole life?

>>22712507
>Pistols only

Nigger, that's how I always play. You can't fuck with me when I got my dual pistols.

>>22713256
>>Someone repeated something wrong, someone got something corrected repeated back to them.
>>ITT: we bitch for no reason.

Actually, that's the reason to bitch.

Stop trying to cover up your mistakes, faggot.

>>22712976
this

seriously guys, what the fuck?
Obviously you guys don't have any friends to play the game with, but why the hell are you complaining about playing the same 2 levels over and over being repeditive.
what the fuck did you expect?
Of course the game is going to be boring without 3 friends.
Also its a free demo, stop fucking complaining

>>22713209
Similiar situation with me. I was playing with a friend who pretty much sucks at games and two CPU players. The CPU Francis startled the which and got himself and CPU Louis mauled whilst I kept my distance and my friend pushed on ahead. I told him to wait and come back but he got ambushed by a Hunter. I tried to run to get to him but then a smoker grabbed me from behind and pulled me to my death.

Shit was awesome.

>>22713276
All you've demonstrated with this post is that people with horrible taste happen to love L4D. You are doing your own argument a disservice.

>>22712841
>enjoy being shot
>zombies

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>>22713276
your loss brah

i love shootin cars and witches to piss the whole team off

>>22713450
I think he meant by his team mates! I'd shoot an ally who is holding us back, let him die and then revive him at the next closet and hope he learns his lesson.

>>22713350
plus, it's only 1 and 2/3 maps of a campaign containing 4 maps. 4 MAPS, 4CAMPAIGN, THIS WON'T BE BORING, in my opinion.

>>22712841
>enjoy being shot
>zombies

>>22713052
>Hello newfag.

You're the newfag if you don't think the hatred for L4D is a little much, even for /v/ standards.

>>22713276

>I think Gabe Newell is a fat horrible fuck

Eh complains about everything and doesn't afraid of anything?

lol at this thread
you guys are all retards

co-op
great replayability
fun core gameplay
no rootkit DRM

i pre-ordered it yesterday. Valve makes fun games.

EA will release shootan-shitfest 7 tomorrow and whine about piracy killing the industry

>>22713570
>>You're the newfag if you don't think the hatred for L4D is a little much, even for /v/ standards.

/v/ hates almost every game, with VERY few expectations (Godhand).

No anon, you're the newfag.

>>22713432
Taste is subjective. All you're doing with your post is proving you're a retard who thinks his opinion speaks for itself. Go play EPISODE 3: GORDON GETS SUCKED OFF SOME MORE instead of pretending to have taste.

game would be more fun if it actually required aim, as it is now zombeis run directly into your gun. oh and why is there an sniper??? why would you ever take it, its not like the assulte rifle is hard to hit with on long range, and as I alrdy said the zombies will run directly into your gun anyways....

>>22713747
>expectations

lol. You fail at comprehension and vocabulary.

>>22713841
>why is there a sniper

Use the sniper and you'll find out. One hit kills, including smokers. I think it's two or three shots for hunters, and about a magazine for the Witch.

Power of the shotgun, accuracy of a sniper rifle. One hit from this and it's on to the next target.

>>22713841
maybe it's gonna be usefull on bigger maps like the ones on rooftops and in the Blood Harvest Campaign. Because now it's being pretty useless

sniper rifle is clearly designed for versus gameplay

need to take out those bosses

What you're forgetting is that you played a tiny segment of one map. It might get boring after a year.

I like the sniper rifle. Semi-auto rifles and zombies go together like pie and gravy.

Also, I have a personal rule that zombies can only be killed by weapons that have some wood in their construction. In L4D, this means pistols until i find the sniper rifle.

>>22713747
>>22713951
>newfag
>fail

LOLRANDUM

>>22714032
>including smokers

Smokers are the most fragile boss zombie next to boomers. I can rape one sidewise from across the map with an auto-shottie without even having to aim.

Hunting rifle is worthless. Especially since it gets you killed during hordes.

>>22713820
And your argument is the same rehashed shit that you could find at some point on /v/ whenever someone decides to troll Valve.
You know what, WE DON'T CARE. I will play L4D, enjoy it, and give Valve my money for publishing it. No dev is perfect, but Valve do their schtick and it's FUN. Important thing, you know.

>>22714159
>tripfag

And lo, the triumvirate of cancerfaggotry is complete.

>>22714191
>I can rape one sidewise from across the map with an auto-shottie without even having to aim.

You just killed Louis. Good job.

>>22714191
If you get killed during hordes, all I can say is learn to right mouse button. Twin pistols are sufficient for hordes and firing on the move, the rifle lets you put down a lot of accurate firepower from long range when you stay put.

>>22714137
Any game that remains fun for a whole year is godly.

This of course excludes GRINDAN GAMES as those aren't actually fun, they just cater to obsessive-compulsive tendencies.

Will it really stand the test of time? I've only played the demo a couple of times, but already the gameplay is pretty repetitive. All you do is move along, wait for the next group of people, hold down the fire button and scream "MEDIC.", occasionally press the melee attack button, and then move on to the next area where there's another pack of people to kill exactly the same way.


I had to.

>>22714191
Countered by the fact that they are lethal from range. I garauntee when the game drops, Smokers are gonna be feared more than anything else

>>22714272
Enjoy taking forever to get rid of hordes with your twin peashooters while guy with shottie annihilates all the zombies and saves his sorry ass. Hopefully he doesn't get lynched by a smoker because your sorry ass decided to pick a worthless weapon (oh no those idle zombies might kill us!)

>OP post
how long have people been playing CS:S on Dust and Office?

Play on Expert or and tell me it is repetitive and easy.

>>22714386
The problem with smokers is that once one strikes, it's obvious as hell where its coming from and two tier 1 shotgun blasts or a few pistol shots is enough to annihilate it even on Expert (and I'm pretty sure Versus is going to make boss zombies less resiliant than that). Along with this is the fact that it takes a good 30 seconds of wacking and smackin to finish someone off and thats after you've sloooowly reeled them in.

My guess is that smokers are going to be next to useless unless the survivors are already pretty trashed (one guy left standing) or people figure out how to exploit the map geometry (well thats pretty likely actually).

how to handle hordes:

1. Pick any weapon
2. Go to the front line
3. Duck.
4. Press right mouse button
5. ???
6. Profit

>>22714436
Not that I agree with OP but CSS is a bad example. Pick a game that isn't played solely by aimbot 1337 kiddies who get trashed in any other game.

>>22714408
Why are you talking as though he is by himself? I've had a lot of success by having people in a group cycle thru their primarys and their pistols to save ammo. That and pistols are pretty accurate at range with crouch.

>>22714605
I think that we'll all agree hordes are easy to handle.

The problem lies within boss zombies using them as cover to get close and do their thing. And the longer you take cleaning them up, the more likely a single smoker will fuck your shit up.

I think we can all agree that anything is manageable in L4D Expert. But anything + horde = instant catastrophe.

>>22714555
You understand why then. A big horde attacks, one smoker on a rooftop to pull a person away, maybe a hunter to add more distraction. I am asuming people will be working in groups cohherently.

>>22713276
>I hate steam for obvious reasons

Which are...?

90% of PCfags here will say that it's bullshit and will be right: people who don't state their beef with Steam are just a bunch of stuck up fools refusing to try something that's dominating the PC game market...meaning that's the remaining 10%.

>>22714636
>save ammo

Why would anyone need to do this.

Your post smells of bullshit and lies.

JUST A MOD. NOT WORTH $50. REPETITIVE. SHITSUX.

Can't you trolls think of anything else?

>>22714830
Ammo does run out pretty fast. Play expert or don't play at all.

Only the shotguns don't suffer from lack of ammunation.

>>22714761
I'm still of the opinion that if everyone has shotguns, particularly auto-shotguns, that horde will get fucked in record time and smoker will get away with a tongueshot only if he's lucky. Especially because all the gameplay vids I've seen of zombie play, it appears to have the same values and stats as normal difficulty.

Really though, I'm incredibly curious as how it will play out because this could make or break the game.

>>22712765

gears of was sucked anyway.

GOD TIER:

AUTO-SHOTGUN

HIGH TIER:

M16

MID TIER:

COUNTRY RIFLE

>>22712773
Bastards didn't even give us a yuropians a chance on line. ;_;

>>22714780
Steam's the best fucking content delivery system for games, ever.

>>22715038
The hunting rifle has over a hundred shots and it fires slower than a shotgun. Honestly I was a bit surprised when I picked it up, as long as you can survive sucking every time a horde shows up, you could last longer than anyone.

I suppose Uzi and M16 might suffer from ammo shortage simply because they're so fucking inefficient in terms of effect.

I'm really starting to think that shotgun ought to be nerfed a bit.

I've never run out of ammo.

On any difficulty.

M16 and uzi are awesome simply cause you can shoot through walls.

>>22715286
They can? Didn't know that.

So what is the use of this besides stealthily TKing?

>>22715327

Doors block horde bro.

>>22715376
Anything can shoot through doors, even shotguns. Shit, you can melee through doors. If you have a luxury of a doorway, you could hold off hordes with single-pistols and one man dead. Nothing short of a tank or multiple bosses from behind could break that defense.