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I know the story is batshit insane and full retard but goddamn does it has some of the best foreshadowing ever made.
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>>162660468 (OP)
I know man.

>that secret message in DDD
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>Kingdom Hearts 2
>Xigbar to Sora
>"Right.. you use to give me that same look"
>Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep
>Braig to Ven
>"Nice angry look you got there"
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I can't play Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix without having feels now
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>>162660468 (OP)
Well, I mostly like that in KH1 they foreshadowed Ansem as a good guy only to reveal near the end that he'd been the villain all along but then they had to go and piss all over it with a retcon in KH2.
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>>162661016
>Dream Drop Distance
>"I see you still got that angry-look down"
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You are now aware that Mickey was in the realm of Darkness in Kingdom Hearts 1 to find Aqua
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>Xemnas put an X in all the names of Organization XIII because of the X-Blade from his former life of being Xehanort

2deep4me
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>>162661680
After all that time in the darkness aqua better be fucking god-tier now.
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>>162661935
Actually it's because he uses the "X" to know where the Org. members are.
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>We take 13 empty husks, hook them up to Kingdom Hearts, and fill them all with the same heart and mind.
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>>162662125
>>162661935

You're both right
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So do you guys think donald and goofy will return as party members in kh3?

It's pretty much set up that the 7 warriors of light will be
-sora
-riku
-kairi
-mickey
-aqua
-ven
-terra/lingering spirit/axel/lea. not sure about number 7.
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>>162662360
Number 7 will be Lea, Terra is gunna die somehow
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>>162662360

Master Xehanort already said Terra is apart of the 13 Darkness
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I love just how stupid the plot is, makes it fun to laugh at.
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>>162662360
It will have multiple protags and multiple teams. They might even expand it since VS13 has 4 characters at once and it's a prototype for KH3

inb4
>KH3 and VS are never coming out

They will...in like 7 years
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My favorite character from Kingdom Hearts is Seipheroth.
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>>162662528
Seeing as Xemnas and Ansem are half Terra, and accepting the full possibility of Terranort being one of them, we sit at 3 Terra-based Darknesses.
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>>162662620
>Light story (play as Sora, Riku, Lea, Kairi)
>Dark story (play as Young Xehanort, Isa and two other True Org 13 members)
>Final story

I want this
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>>162662360
Personally, I prefer the D-Link system, I never used my team members in the other games, just turned them off and did work myself.
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>>162662620
KH3 is in development for the PS3 and Nomura said the end of the Xehanort Saga is the next name.

Oh man, imagine if the game was in development for the Wii U too. The shitstorm will be glorious.
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>>162662528
I didn't know that i haven't played ddd yet.

Would be cool if at the final battle Team light is losing but to save his friends terra "awakens"
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>>162662854
>Not getting glorious Donald saves
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Is all that xemnas' X stuff FM(+) only or something? No clue what people are talking about.
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>>162662928
There have been plenty of games since 2006, son.
Specifically, we're talking DDD.
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>>162662031
>Can wield 20 keyblades Final Form style
>DODGE ROLL
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>>162663008
Coolio, didn't know that Xehanort was in that one.

Guess i'll have to get playin'.
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The greatest disney villain if only because they kept the voice actor
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I dont like the battle system of KH: COM so I havent beat it and I never will, somebody care to explain it's plot?
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I love how well Roxas and Axel were handled. The foreshadowing between them in KH2 was amazing
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>>162662031
From her perspective she hasn't been there long. A year, maybe, at which point she encounters Ansem, while 10 years passed in the world of light.
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>>162663137
When Sora the darkness for after the Face heartless he the Xemnas gets riku's keyblade to Marluxia and Roxas to exist for sleeping and get to axel in Twilight town to before the KH2.
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>>162663137
Read the KH wiki.
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ok, so I have only played KH1 and 2 (though I read up on BBS's plot). will I understand anything in 3 or should I put my hope on the HD collections?
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>>162663137
>Sora enters castle
>Forgets shit
>Remembers some blonde chick
>Goes off to save her
>The organization owns the castle, is manipulating
>Sora wipes them out
>Gets to Namine
>She puts him to sleep to fix his memory
>Simultaeously Riku is in the basement fucking shit up
>Conquers his inner darkness
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The first game is still the best one, which is a real shame. Every other game is either full of retarded twists and wasted potential (2, bbs, 3D) or just an overall bad game (com, days, coded).

Nomuras tendencies to just go "wouldn't it be neat if x happened" and then try and figure out how that could even kinda make sense later, and the fact that the main team has been stuck making verses for six years are really killing this series.
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>>162662928
It's in DDD.

The "X" is actually a tracking thingamajig. He probably knew that the Members at Castle Oblivion were against against him.
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>>162663137
>Sora & Co. Find castle
>Go in
>Org XIII is there start spouting bullshit
>Go up tower
>With each floor they lose some of their memory
>Each floor is a level from KH1 + Twilight Town
>Get to top
>Fight Pink faggot to save Namine who's being used by them
>Namine puts Sora in the crystal shit to restore his memories over a year
Only thing you need to know is the last part and that you kill like five of the OrgXIII members I think.
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>>162662341
The X was an obsessive memory. He put the X in the names as both a "Rejection of self" and also because of the reference to the X Blade.

And also to keep track of people like Sora. But those are physical recusant sigils.

>Organization XIII's plan was to use all 13 members to make more Xehanorts but they developed individuality which made the task difficult
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>>162663497
>>162663551
thanks
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>>162663137
Basically, Sora loses his memories and get's frozen for a year.

Riku controls the Dahkness with the help of Mickey.
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>>162663730
Basically Namine fucks up Sora's memories into thinking that Namine is his Kairi essentially.

In the end they have to spend a year patching his mind back together, which took so long thanks to Roxas and more importantly, Xion.
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WHy is lea axel and sora is everyone and no one is xion and everyone else is xehanort?
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>>162663503
In my opinion, BBS has the best gameplay, KH1 has the best story.
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Poorly written mess of a story, but what can we expect from a game that was only meant to be a one shot thing.
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>>162663554
>the X on Isa/Siax's face
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okay, so I played KH and KH2 with a little bit of chains of memory.

How much did I miss if I am going straight to KH3?
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Hey guys, i saved this pic before in a kingdom hearts thread, i'm sure it had an image but for some reason it's totally blank now. What was it? The filename seems unchanged though, i wonder what it means.
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So, KH3 confirmed to be the next game?
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>>162663963
>Xigbar's ears are pointier, his haird has gret streaks, he has yellow eyes
>Saix's hair is lighter and looks similar to YMX's hair, has yellow eyes and pointy ears
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>>162663889
Lea is Axel because Lea is Axel's whole self.

Sora is everybody because he has like all these fucking hearts. Insofar it includes His, Kairi's (At one point), Ventus', Roxas (Who grew a heart), and Xion (Also grew a heart)

Also who's Xion?

Xehanort is everyone because he's literally throwing pieces of himself into other people.

Insofar he's Master Xehanort, Terra (Posessed) who is in fact Xehanort the Apprentice, Ansem SoD, Xemnas, Young Xehanort, and also Xigbar and Saix.
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>>162664067
That's telling us about the HD remakes
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>>162663914
Honestly, I think people seriously underrate the gameplay in kh1 because you can't turn into goku and do a million flips. I probably enjoyed it the most, every other game had parts of the gameplay that seriously piss me off.

BBS is pretty easily second best, though. Least busted gameplay and plot of all the sequels.
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>>162664009
>>162664009
>>162664009

pls respond
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>>162664009
Everything
Like did you know that Xigbar is at least 50% Xehanort?
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>>162664009
You're missing all of BBS which is important
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I want this fucker to come back. It was refreshing in KH to have somebody who is a psycho asshole and just wants to kill people
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>>162664067
It's referring the Kingdom Hearts 1.5. Which doesn't make sense, since the West NEVER get's a Final Mix version
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>>162664256
>Also who's Xion?
G-goddamn it.
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>>162664067
Nope kingdom hearts 1.5 hd
kh1 and CoM in hd.
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>>162664210
If I'm not mistaken, didn't Braig always have pointy ears and yellow eyes when seen in BBS?
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>>162664364
And 358/2's cutscenes.
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>>162664431
Only during the final battle. When Terra fights him he's completely normal, then Xehanort lets him into the fold.
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>>162664336
OOOOH THATS THE X-BLADE
>>162662928
lel
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>>162664336
He was in DDD for 5 seconds, he will return in 3
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>>162664336
Why did Osment makes Sora's voice fucking weird in DDD?
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Please stop supporting Nomura shit, OP, it's a cancer that's destroying JRPGs
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>>162663137
It doesn't matter: The Game
All it really did was introduce namine who has the power to alter sora's memories. At the beginning you lose all your memories and then you basically go through bizarro worlds of kh1 and get new fake memories and at the end you save namine who offers to restore all your real memories but it will take a while which is why you're in that egg thing at the start of kh2. Oh and for some reason roxas holds some of your memories so Sora cant wake up until they sacrifice him which is why riku does that
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>Playing DDD
>Hey this game actually makes a fair amount of sense, seems kinda light on the overarching story compared to the rest
>last 2 hours of the game
>WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING WHY IS EVERYONE SORA WHY ARE EVERYONE XEHANORT WHY DOES LEA HAVE KEYBLADE WHAT IS SAIX DOING AS XEHANORT

Seriously why does xehanort actually need 13 xehanorts, or even why does he want kingdom hearts at this point? They didn't really explain his reasoning very well
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>>162664529
He was trying to sound young when he isn't.
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>>162664538
>, it's a cancer that's destroying JRPGs
No, thats atlus with SMT and persona
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>>162664336
It was scary how good sora's VA was at playing him
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>>162664529
Cause Osment is getting older but still trying to sound like Sora.
You're now aware that it's been 10 years since Osment first voices Sora in KH1.
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>>162664336
I thought that Vanitas being Bizarro Sora was actually a pretty neat twist. He looks pretty cool too.

Also the fact that he has Riku's dark suit
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>>162664671
That too, but this is still beyond terrible and shouldn't be supported.
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>>162664585
what do you mean about everyone is Sora, haven't we known that Sora has been half a dozen people since before?
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>>162664585
At first he wanted to fix the balance between light and darkness.

Later he changed and now he wants to engulf all the worlds into darkness by starting anothher keybladewar.
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>>162664529
He was being Young Sora so he sounded awful.

Is anyone else as fucking tired of Young Sora as I am? He's been playable young in like every game he's appeared in but KH2.

3D would have been nicer with older sora but NO. You only get to use him in just the End Credits.
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>>162664703
>suit

Oh yes, it's such a tight fit, MMMMMMH~
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>>162664846
then which JRPGS are good?
>inb4 Demon/Dark Souls
those were WRPGs
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>>162664529

Because Haley Joel Osment is 24 now

>Haley Joel Osment was 14 when he voiced Sora in Kingdom Hearts 1
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>>162664950
Yeah I am sick of young Sora, if they remove the Nourma from his KH2 outfit fit I'd be all over that.
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>>162664950
actually the KHFM of 2 has a young sora Drive form
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>>162665073
Good lord what happened to his face?
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>>162665073
Well, they'll just have to age Sora a little for 3.
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>>162665024
>Dark Souls
>RPG made in Japan
>Not a JRPG
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>>162663136
>implying

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NP-RsRGzVo
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>>162665178
It's called "getting older" dumbass.
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>>162664950
I thought maybe it was because the model is easier to render, but I think Nomura has a hard on for shota Sora.
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>>162663956
yet still manages to be 10x more interesting then most game's plot
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>>162665229
But his face looks the smae. It's like that Will Smith edit.
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>>162665024
You mean modern or what? Because there's plenty, but very few current ones are good or even acceptable. And how is an RPG made in Japan not a Japanese RPG?
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>>162661016
>Beginning of KH2
>"Be a good boy now."
>End of KH2
>"Have you been a good boy?"
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>>162665151
But you're still older sora.

Young Sora's face is so punchable that it makes me sick.

Also he's so fucking short holy SHIT
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpdOhY-0x84&feature=my_favorites&list=FLQpWulb6tSsPGY6FpPaAKI
w
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>>162661680
HOLY SHIT WHY DIDN'T I NOTICE THIS
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>>162665420
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>>162665189
Just because it's made in japan doesnt make it JRPG. JRPG is genre you fucking retard. It stands for turn-based RPGs with anime style like Final Fantasies ect weeaboo shit.
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Waiting for this to happen
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>>162665420
>yfw some 8 year old comes across this when looking for videos of his favorite game on youtube
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>>162663137
Sora is looking for Riku, come across a castle run by OrgXIII, Namine who is Sora's Nobody with some Kairi mixed in begins fucking with his memory because OrgXIII wants Sora's power. They fight their way through Sora's memories as Namine fucks with them more and more, replacing Kairi with herself because she's fucked like that. At the end of the game Namine fucked with Sora's memory so hard she has to put him asleep for a year to unfuck them. And then there's Riku's story
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so will 3 have a Star Wars world?
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>>162665331
>yet still manages to be 10x more interesting then most game's plot
I see you haven't played many games then, it's one of the shittiest JRPG plots
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>>162665420
i remember this. fuck
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>>162664058
fuck you anon, ;_;7
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Also can we switch up the world for once. I like the KH1 worlds but we've done them so many times.
>>162665641
Nourma pls no
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This series is like finding out that kid you were bros with for a single summer years ago turned into a crackhead.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh-VlTnqZ9o

BEST CUTSCENE IN KINGDOM HEARTS
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>>162665641
It will be a world based on the Clone Wars CGI cartoon.
It will be awesome
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>>162663534

Axel was flat out given orders to spy on them in 358/2 Days and it's even shown in CoM.

He was there to spy on them and kill them if they tried anything.
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>>162665638
>Final Fantasy
I didn't know this was a turn-based RPG with a shitty anime art style. Huh. News to me.
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>>162665834
>best cutscene
>anything after kh1
no dude
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>>162665834
OMG i had a total fangasm when i saw this ^__^
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>>162665834
it wasn't that good calm the fuck down.
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Oh how wrong you were
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Can someone explain the WHOLE story to me but keep it brief?
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>>162665980
>^_^
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Guize does Evan appear when when the apprentices come back as somebody's ?
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>>162666148
Sora is everyone
Xehanort is everyone else
Magic
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>>162666148
Someone bust out the google doc for this guy
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>>162666148
>but keep it brief
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>162660468 (OP)
Not really OP,

Leaving about a bunch of vague references to some other vague BS that's going on and then shoehorning something to fit into said reference is not brilliant in my opinion, it's just goddamned lazy, a manipulative way to keep you hooked for more. If there's a glimmer of an "Answer" you'll keep coming back.

The same happens with TV shows most of the time, the answer 1 of the mysteries before shoving another 5 down your throat.
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will sora even be in 3 now that hes no longer a keyblade master?
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>>162661337
to be fair, the real Ansem was a good guy.
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>>162666132
I'd call retcon bullshit, but even in that game mickey had a keyblade from the darkworld or w/e.
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>>162666148
>>162666148
that is not possible I'm afraid.
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>Master Xehanort wants to make 12 other copies himself

You know it's stupid at first, but then again, who's better to trust than yourself?

I hope in KH3, all them start betraying each other since they'll a think they're the original.
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>>162662125
but Xemnas is obsessed with the letter X because of the X-blade
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I kind of lost track of the story after 2 because I never played the clusterfuck of portable games so shit makes absolutely no fucking sense to me at all.
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Saix is going to be the seventh light, I'm calling it right now.

>Completed devoted to the Organization's ideals.
>He was Xemnas' second in command.
>The pain in his voice when Sora defeats him in KH 2: "Kingdom Hearts...Where is my heart?"
>His (former) best friend is aiding the light.

There will probably some kind of battle between him and Lea. Ventus won't wake up until late in the game or until the game is finished.
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>>162665834
>Kairi holding Destiny's Embrace like a golf club

The girl really needs that training.
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Forshadowing? He fucking improvised the entire series
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>>162666381
That'd be fucking hilarious.
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>>162666374
You can always count on Japan for underage panty shots.
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Do I play chain of Memories on the GBA or PS2?
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>>162666148
There's a Google Docx of the summary somewhere...
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>>162666374

I... want to touch her pantsu...
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>>162666426
To be honest most of the keyblade masters hold their weapons like retards.
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I'd really like them to re-release the titles they put out on the DS and PSP into some HD remake. Preferably on PC, PS3, or Wii U.
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>>162666497
both has awful gameplay. Play PS2 for cutscenes and voice actings.
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>this scene
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>>162666497
PS2, they retcon shit, betther gameplay and whatnot.
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>>162666426
Hey, when the 13th vessel is a golf ball it will all make sense.
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I just realized we've been facing the same final boss most of the game. Xehanort. In KH 1 its xehanort as a heartless. In KH 2 its xehanort as a nobody. For terras story in BBS its old master xehanort.

So does this mean in the final game xehanorts ultimate true form will be shown? And if it is just how powerful will the nigger be?
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>>162666476
In the first game you can see selphies underwear

and janes
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>>162666381
Well, all 13 of them can't share ultimate power.
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>>162666624
I actually liked the gameplay, made it slightly more strategic especially during Riku's story.
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>>162663326
i love this pic, but where the hell is radiant gardens??
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>>162664210
Dayum
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>>162666381
thats an awesome idea. would laugh again
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>>162666431
This is truth, and I fucking hate Nomura, and Nojima and Watanabe who help him, for this bullshit, and any writer who thinks this is good or acceptable in any way. What's worse are the fanfags who eat it up
>Nomura: Making it “surprising.” While I’m writing out the plot, if things seem that you can predict the outcome on your own, then I think of a different, unexpected development.
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>>162666132
Now that means there can't be two masters to one keyblade but then Roxas.

BUT I GUESS NOW that means "there can't be JUST two keyblade masters."
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>>162665198

He meant greatest Disney villain IN KH.

Frollo in KH not only doesn't have his VA (because he's dead) but also has little screentime and isn't even a boss, also no Hellfire or even a remix of it.

In general the Hunchback world was the one I was most hyped for and it's objectively the worst out of DDD ones.
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>>162666720
1) No shit, Sherlock. It's not like he's the main villain or anything.
2) Regular Master Xehanort, only not trying to lose like he was at the end of BBS.
I'd love it if the final battle took place inside Kingdom Hearts, which, since it's a heart, takes the form of one of those heart platforms.
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>>162666648
>that Destiny Islands theme remake
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>>162666782
that's why it's so bad. Why the fuck would you want to mix turn based combat and real time combat? It just makes it horrible mess.
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Why is it that even when it's not a sinister abandoned castle and is instead a pretty nice town called radiant garden it still has the sinister as hell music?

Are they really THAT lazy that they can't make something more fitting for what's supposed to be this perfectly awsome place filled with light or whatever?
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>>162666648
In all honesty it didn't help at all with the actual lines.

"Keep this a secret. You can't tell anyone or else the magic will go away"
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>>162660468 (OP)
Goofy never goofy hollers.

Why KH.. why use goofy if you're not going to..
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>>162667163
It's not sinister as hell though. It sounds more regal than evil in BBS.
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>>162667163
It's not happy sunshine fun, but there's no way I'd call it sinister.
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>>162667368
It's the exact same song, though?

>>162667345
He did in the first game
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>>162667483
Go listen, and get back to me.
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I hope to hell we get to see the human org members that where left out of DDD. I want to see every bodys somebody
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>>162666758

PROVE IT
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>>162666409
Isa didn't seem so happy to see him.
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>>162667473
I guess "sinister" isn't the right word, but it really fits an abandoned castle and doesn't at all fit what's supposed to be a thriving town that's full of buildings and bright colors.
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>>162666148
>Keyblades are magical weapons tied to the heart of the wielder
>Kingdom Hearts is the source of all hearts in the universe and thus the source of power
>Keyblade wielders get in huge war over Kingdom hearts, the world is destroyed and split into tiny worlds, mostly based on Disney Movies
>there are 3 keyblade masters, Xehanort, Eraques, and Yen Sid.
>Xehanort wants to unlock the power of Kingdom Hearts for himself to see what would happen
>manipulates a bunch of people so he can get himself a new, younger body and unlock Kingdom Hearts
>plan fails, has a bunch of backup plans
>unleashes the heartless, heart-devouring monsters, into the world.
>new keyblade wielder, Sora, is chosen
>He basically has to clean up Xehanort's mess.
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>>162667345

He did at the end of the first game when the are running through the field. The scene after the credits
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>>162667540
>Luxord's Somebody will be in charge of mini-games in Kingdom Hearts 3
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>>162660468 (OP)
who is the redhaired girl?

Sorry new to FF
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>>162667540
that will never happen because they aren't as popular with the fujoshi
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>>162667540
>mfw still waiting to see Larxene's Sombebody
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>mfw at the end of the whole thing Sora and Kairi finally kiss and tell each other they love one another

>In a similar scene Riku gets flustered when Aqua tries to get up close to him
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>>162667583
I don't remember where that anon saw Kairi's but you can see Jane's in the little house with the projector, if you get in really close to her and then go into first person
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>>162667737
>liking larxene

filth
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>>162667703
some bitch who's inside of you for most of the first game
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>>162667762
>mfw kh3 turns into persona and makes you have social links with all the characters to reinforce the whole "Friendship is power" theme
>mfw choosing the aqua lovers route
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>>162667762
>mfw at the end of the whole thing Sora and Kairi finally kiss and tell each other they love one another

>Kingdom Hearts 4
>Sora is still the protagonist
>Thinking they will portray a character in an ongoing romantic relationship

Pffft, right.
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>>162667762
>heterosexual relationships in kingdom hearts games made after the kh2

the closest we got was xion (who literally turned into a man), a couple people hitting on aqua and terra dropping spagehetti near cinderella
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>>162667703
>new to FF
Please stay out of it. The faggots who get into Final Fantasy through Kingdom Hearts are the fucking worst
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>>162668014
>tfw the fucking worst
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>>162667783

> That feel when japanese always render the panties
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>start back at Lv1 in Kh2 because Sora spent a year in the pod

>start back at Lv1 in Kh3 because of the Mark of Mastery exam

I love it when games do this.
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>>162668157
I thought the whole idea of the mastery exam was for them to power up? I mean sure, sora got cheated because fangirls like riku more, but still.
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>>162667975
>mfw that persona crossover atlus mentioned a while back is persona characters and demons in Kh3
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I really want to enjoy this series but everytime I try to continue KH1 I get fed up with the combat and level design.

Smashing the attack command is really the ONLY thing you do?

Why do the levels feel claustrophobic and just outright lazy design?

I want to enjoy it.
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>>162668014
>HURR LEONXCLOUD IS MY OTP
>No I've never played Final Fantasy
>Which game is Leon from?
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>>162668284
Sora will be a level one keyblade master in KH3 or something

I dunno
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>>162667687

inb4 his real name is D'arby, Luxord being formed out of his nickname.
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>tfw someone in my class right now is writing a KH fanfic

How can i torment this waste of flesh?
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>>162668438
Steal it, copy it, post it everywhere.
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>>162668376
what happens to a person who only has a heart and body after losing their soul to D'arby?
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Someone explain to me how Axel turned back to human and gets a keyblade?
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>>162668301
Honestly, KH1 aged pretty poorly. The combat doesn't have any of the nuisances they added in 2 and you're right the level design is pretty basic.

It wasn't a real fleshed out idea yet.
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>>162668301

KH1 has the second worst gameplay out of all, the only one worse is KH 358/2 Days since it's a gimped version of the KH1 gameplay.
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>>162668438
Does this person happen to have a vagina, if so you could swallow your pride and pound that.
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>>162668438
Ask him to put in Harry Potter and Yugioh.

Actually, I read something like this once.

>Sora walked up to the tower but it was an illusion and it was a blue eyes white dragon except it was gold with purple eyes
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>>162668438
Offer sexual favors by yours truly.
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>>162668316
That is exactly the kind of faggotry I don't want, at least more than we already have
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>>162668301
I hate to be 2deep4u but the gameplay/level design in the first game is the best in the series.
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>>162668557

In KH universe heart = soul.
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>>162668605
Yes, and she is really fucking obese and i'd rather not since she reaks of stale chicken
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>>162668657
How is it deep in any way? I really want to hear this.
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>>162668726

So it's a landwhale, just man the harpoons.

WHITE WHALE, HOLY GRAIL
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>>162668751
Here, let me show you an example of how great the gameplay design is in kh1, compared to how it works in 2.

As you go up hollow bastion in kh1 (This shit is fucking amazing, I could write an essay about how awesome this one part of the game is) you'll run across chests flying in the air. You're only hint that you need to cast gravity to make them fall(remember when you could use your magic on stuff in the levels in the first game, wasn't that neat?) coming from the fact that you can lock on to the chests.

Quite a bit later, you fight maleficent. She flies around on a platform, doing asshole wizard things like shooting fireballs and summoning dudes. Now while you CAN just bash on her platform like a retard, this takes a while. What you're supposed to do is use gravity to make it fall instantly, meaning that something in the level (that you had to figure out yourself) gives you a shortcut against the boss (if you connect the two things).

Now, if this same boss was in kh2, none of this would be in there. What would happen is that you'd fuck around for a little bit, fighting off her summons and waiting around until you get the promt to use the platform punisher reaction command or something, then you'd push it and watch a longer-then-it-needs-to-be of sora doing 50 flips off all the walls and then slaming her into the ground, then she'd be stunned for a bit and you'd get a couple combos in before she blew you backwards and start the cycle all over again. Repeat for 5ish minutes and you win.

This isn't even close to the only example of the gameplay differences between games
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Soooo has Riku finally started using darkness themed powers yet ? He has accepted the darkness its about time he started using it to his advantage.
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>>162668564
The same way how the others turned back into Somebodies. Their heartless and nobodies got destroyed.

We just didn't see the heartless part.

>and gets a keyblade?

Because the plot and the fands demand it. It's so much bullshit even Yen Sid was surprised.
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>>162668564
>>162668564
>>162668564
>>162668564
>>162668564
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>>162668725
No, The Soul is a seperate thing too.

The Body is made of the Heart, Soul, and Body.

Nobodies compromise just the soul and body while heartless are just the heart.
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>>162668876
He did in Kh2, he had like Dark Aura and some other DARKNESS stuff.
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>>162668876

He already uses them in KH2.
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>>162668864
Have another.

Okay, ignoring how cool moving around wonderland is, and ignoring how the little spellcaster enemies actualy fight like dicks in the first game (they spread apart and run away while shooting at you) Lets talk strictly about the bossfight.

Near the end of the level, you're asked to go around the crazy wonderland backgrounds and find evidence. The first three are in pretty obvious spots, and since you don't actually need to get even a single one (all it does is raise the odds that an easy fight is even easier) most people won't bother to track down the fourth, actually well hidden one.

Getting this box gets you the Ice spell early (you normally get it after beating the boss), what does any of this have to do with the boss? Well, one of his attacks involves setting his baton-hands on fire, which causes him to hit pretty fucking hard, especially since this is still early and you don't have the heal spell yet, he can really fuck you up. If you have the ice spell, you can put his fire-hands out, meaning you got rewarded for exploring by having an easier time against the boss.

You're rewarded for exploring in kh2 (as much as you CAN explore the levels in that game) with either synth items or AP bonuses, either way you're rewarded with an easier time against enemies, the difference is HOW you're rewarded. In the first game, you're rewarded with an active, new/cool ability that makes you're life easier against both the boss and the swarms of asshole spellcaster enemies if you think to use it. In the second, you're rewarded with a passive boost to your numbers, letting you hit X harder and in a cooler-looking way.

It's really the little things like this
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>>162668725
but aren't Nobody's a person's body and soul that are left over after their hearts become heartless? That was Yen Sid's explanation in KH2
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>>162668974

There is no soul in KH, 0/10 shit troll.
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>>162668564
a Nobody becomes whole when it gets it's heart back.

When Heartless and Nobodies are defeated, they both disappear to the same place: The Darkness.

So, this is where the two halves can easily come together. And that's why Lea is back.

And he has a keyblade because he went out to get one.
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>>162669031
This one is more of a 2deep4u "i-its supposed to be like that!" shit, so take this one with a grain of salt.

Okay, lets take a look at Sora's character at the beginning of the game. He hasn't hit puberty yet and is kind of a wimp. Sure he beats the shit out of his friends with a wooden sword, but the storyline and the gameplay make it pretty clear that Riku and his surprising buffness is top dog. Suddenly shit goes wrong, the crazy dream monsters are real, and he's found himself in some crazy surealist city with no idea where he is or if anyone he knows about is alive, while being constantly chased by monsters because of the sword that HE CAN'T GET RID OFF that want to heat his soul or something. The lose plot of the first game could pretty easily be turned into a horror game.

The point I'm trying to make is that Sora is a kid thrown into an impossible situation he really has no excuse being in, and this is shown in the gameplay. We've got Sora's stance, where it looks like he can barely lift his weapon and is constantly looking to his sides when you idle during fights, the entire thing shows that he's unsure of what he's doing and is basically just swinging and hoping for the best. Similarly the animations for casting most of his spells almost has it look like he's about to drop his sword, and his block animation isn't very standard action heroy either. All these little things help tie into the fact that Sora is still young and has no idea how to fight, something that pretty much never happens in jpgs.
oh no out of space
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>>162669234

There's more to it then just soras animations, though. The first game has this unique camera angle that's a lot lower/more zoomed to the ground then in later games. This makes everything look bigger, in particular the enemies, further adding into the fact that this kid is fighting all sorts of crazy shit (especially when combined with the really cool heartless designs that were only in this game). The game doesn't mince words when it comes to these enemies, early into Traverse town you watch a heartless straight up eat a guy and turn him into a copy of itself, and this is the only game that has soras heart hovering over his body when you die (why was this removed in later games?) I'm going on a bit of a tangent but what I'm trying to say is that the camera/enemy design play into themes in the story. The fact that soras moveset is a lot more limited (and that the enemies fight a lot smarter) in the first game is another thing that plays up what a big deal the heartless can be.

Come the second game, all of this is gone, sora has more heroic poses for his moves, the heartless that aren't just intentionally fodder (a lot more enemies in this game are intentionally made wimpy) are beaten easily by pushing triangle, sora can do a million flips and the like. For the most part, this isn't actually a problem, he's had two games of this shit when kh2 happens, and he's a lot more used to fighting. However, the situation in the first game is sertianly a lot more interesting and unique, no?
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>>162669169

Also worth adding is, that they always rebirth at the place where they became Nobodies originally, aka the place where they lost their heart.
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>>162669169
>>162668915
Thanks, sounds like some major asspull though.
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>>162668657

2behonestwithU, recalling the level design of Alice in Wonderland makes me want to punch you in the face.
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>>162668157
Lvl 1 is just a point to grow from.
Lvl 1 KH2 is level 99 KH1.

Also KH3 will start with you controlling Kairi through her training.
Best way to have a tutorial without some retarded:
>'Hey sora I know you've fought and defeat countless heartless, but do you know how to swing a keyblade?

13 darknesses, and there are currently 12.
My guess is
Xehanort
Ansem
Xemnas
Young Master Xehanort
Isa
Braig
(We know these 6)
Xehanorts heartless and Nobody (he stabbed himself in BBS to get into Terra)
Terranort
Saix and Xigbar (he's got other dead people/people we've already fought, why not his most trusted nobodies)
Vanitas
and Sora (he already stated he wants Sora in the 13)

7 lights
Mickey
Riku
Kairi
Terra
Aqua
Ventus
Lea

Sora will have to fall into darkness, before returning to light (with the help of all his friends daww) thus giving him balance control over dark and light and allowing him to wield the x-blade.
The 7 lights and 13 darknesses ten have a huge clash resulting in Sora using the power of KH to return the Universe but at the same time becoming God. He can no longer live with his friends because of what he is, and people end up forgetting him despite the sacrifice and what he's done for everyone. All except Riku, who keeps Sora's pink ribbon as a memento.
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>>162662793

>Kingdom Hearts Adventure 2
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>>162668014
But I played Final Fantasy 4 to 10 because of KH. I'm not that bad.
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>>162669634

Fanfic bullshit. Also Nomura would never end it off on a sad ending, fangirls and fujoshis would destroy him.
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>>162669558
how edgy

Why, exactly? I'll admit it kinda looks like a bunch of dioramas, but it's both one of the first levels in an early ps2 game using tons of new hardware and the actual movie looked like that.

Plus, you actually had to like, explore around and shit.
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>End of the game
>Xehanort is the only one left out of his clones
>Sora starts to get ready for the fight
>A hand grabs his shoulder to stop
>looks up and sees this
>Rage Awakened stars playing
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>>162669634
That ending sounds a lot like fucking evangelion and shinji
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>>162669854
>>162669634
>He can no longer live with his friends because of what he is, and people end up forgetting him despite the sacrifice and what he's done for everyone. All except Riku, who keeps Sora's pink ribbon as a memento.
Won't happen
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>tfw you hated everything japanese, including jrpgs until 2007
>tfw Crisis Core came out in japan in September in 2007 and since it was all the rage on PSPIso.com I decided to give it a shot to see what weaboos see in it
>tfw I played well over 150 jrpgs, watched fuckload of anime and read ton of manga by now

Honestly, it's a good feel.
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>>162669031
>>162669234
>>162669287
Dude...you are far too into KH1

It's not even close to that well designed. Half the shit you mentioned there is no way of knowing in game what you are supposed to do there. They don't give you any hints for that shit and magic is the most cumbersome thing in the game because you have to menu hunt which prevents and experimentation from it.
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>>162669634
Nomura confirmed KH is soras story so that means even after the Xehanort saga he will still be playable
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>>162663136
>The greatest disney villain if only because they kept the voice actor

that's not Hades
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>>162669634
>Sora using the power of KH to return the Universe but at the same time becoming God. He can no longer live with his friends because of what he is, and people end up forgetting him despite the sacrifice and what he's done for everyone. All except Riku, who keeps Sora's pink ribbon as a memento.

Hey guys, let's rip of kamen rider ryuki to rip off madoka to rip off kindom hearts.
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>>162669558
There were roughly 3 rooms. All of which were enclosed boxes and any1 who was expecting it to actually imitate the Alice in Wonderland universe had the middle finger shoved straight up their ass.
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>>162670152
>PSPISO.COM
>mahnigga.jpg
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>>162670172
That's what makes it kinda cool though, you have to go out of your way to get some cool little things. I like it more than KH2 throwing everything at you in some overly flashy way.
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>>162670354
...shoot there really were only 3 rooms (if you don't count the beginning room). I never realized that.
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>>162670152
Don't you feel silly for being one of those MATURE GAMES FOR MATURE GAMERS LIEK ME kids now?
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>>162669964
So seeing as how defeating Ansem and Xemnas restores Xehanort (half of the party) do you think it restores Terra as well?
Do you think Lingering Will IS what is restored?
Think about it. You can't fight LW until after you defeat Xemnas, or do you think Terra's body has been restored but he has no memories or some shit because his soul is still in his armor.
THOERIES?
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>>162670354
>any1
No

leave

Before i get really angry and phone moot (he is my uncle i will do it i swear)
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>>162670172
>Half the shit you mentioned there is no way of knowing in game what you are supposed to do there.

What are you talking about? The only two things I talked about that are "hey you can do this, isn't that neat" are two things you can do in earlier parts of the game. Do you need the game to spell everything out for you?

Besides, even if you don't use shortcuts it's pretty easy to use the magic if you set the right stick to control the menu.
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>>162670295
I'm glad at least someone got it.
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>>162670502
>>162670749
>that's what makes it kinda cool
Not really. Good intentions yes, but poor execution.

Hell Riku was in Hollow Bastion, you could of had a quick cutscene where you see him use gravity on a platform just to give the players a semblence of a hint that magic is actually useful.
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In BBS, Lea touches the wooden keyblade that Terra unknowingly perfomed the ritual on.

Thats why he can use one now.
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>>162669854
Then you're one of the few good ones who actually got into FF and didn't just play VII, VIII and X like the huge fucking faggots of which I speak.
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I haven't played a KH game since KH2. What have I really missed
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>>162670354
I'll admit it was kinda small but, again, it was an early ps2 game and I guess they got a little lazy with it.

I'm not sure how it doesn't exactly imitate the movie, though? You have to do stupid shit like talk to flowers, fade into paintings and get huge/tiny and the crux of everything involves collecting evidence and then even if you prove yourself innocent you get punished anyway.

What else was that movie, besides a bunch of dumb random shit, bizarre animation, changing size and the queen of hearts?
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>>162671013
But. that's. not. a. real. keyblade.
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>>162670869
So again, you need it completely spelt out for you? You just saw the chests flying out of reach, saw that you could lock on and went WHAT DO I DOO??? and kept walking?

It's not like it's the only way to do it dude, it's just a cute little secret, if you don't wanna think you can just hit X like a spaz.
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>>162671039
That's actually drawn pretty well but what the fuck is it?
At first I thought it was humanized sanic with a keyblade
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>>162671127
I've played every final fantasy game, most of them are shitty, 7 and 10 are among the actually good ones, fuck your elitism
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>>162671208
Oh man where to begin...
Birth By Sleep and Dream Drop Distance will catch you up on everything but there's a lot to take in.
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>>162671472
original concept for sora, after it was decided that donald or mickey weren't the protagonist.

he's a lion-boy with a chainsaw
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>>162671472
The original shitty furfag concept for Sora, which is definitely way worse than what we got. Not that what we got was good in any way, but still.
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>>162671429
why didn't they use it to create a unique and interesting puzzle in that level then?

That would of been fucking cool. Using gravity to create platforms to climb the castle.

But nope, we got lazy designed hallways with your precious little secrets.

Like I said, good intentions, piss poor execution.
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>>162671472
Concept art of Sora; originally he was going to have a chainsaw as a weapon or something.
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>this thread

Jesus fucking christ, what did I miss since KH2?
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>>162671730
So what, a bunch of icicles or something you make fall so you can pass? How is that better then the actual level?



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