k.

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>>158097572 (OP)
That's nice OP.

k.

>>158097572 (OP)
How hard is hard mode?

Do you want a medal ?

>>158097945
Not OP, but it's not that hard. There is tons to explore though, and lots and lots of nifty shit to find.

The abilities are really powerful and useful.

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buyers remorse general

>>158098479
>been playing for over 5 hours
>not even out of the second stage
You fucking rushed through it without exploring anything? Who cares.

>>158098593
>The game is really long guys, you just have to take your time

Not my fault you're shit at videogames

>>158098479
Oh my dear... This can't be real. I was so hyped to get this game, but if it is like this I guess I'll stick to Dark Souls then.

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>>158098656
I'm not shit, I'm just not speeding through all the objectives.

There's lots of shit to explore.

>>158098897
Couldn't you play Darksiders 2 without exploring and getting collectibles and still spend a hell of a lot longer then this.

>low on money
>need to get a game that will last me for a long while
>end up getting between Dishonored or Dragons Dogma
>out of sheer bordem decide to not wait for dishonored and just get Dragons Dogma.

feel like I dodged a bullet.

Until I started going to some forums and reading about min/maxing. This shit is just going to be like pokemon black all over again. I'll play it, trying to min/max as best I can, end up putting in tons of time and not even beat the game

>>158098656
Are you one of those guys who runs past all the npc banther, is always running for the next waypoint marker without conversing with npcs or exploring the surroundings and skips all the cutsenes?
I know they exist because I've met a few.
You can play your games the way you like but you have no reason to be pretentious about it.
It's like skim reading a literary epic and saying people who read every word thoughtfully are shit at reading.

>>158100049
He probably plays with all the UI elements on too.

It's not hard when you have the game hold your hand.

>Guy beats game in a relatively shorter time than average
>HURR he played it wrong you need to explore and shit in people's mouths
Or he just played through the game and beat it casually

Wait there's a way to play games wrong?
Usually when you play it "wrong" the game punishes you. If you go exploring all you might find is some cash, which you spend on aggressive weapons, which makes the game go much faster since you're godly in this game. Ok so if you don't explore you don't get as much money to spend on weapons, but you're still ultra powerful and can still plow through the game. So what's the point of exploring? If they made it much harder to deal with the enemies in the game without exploring, by nature you would have been forced to use stealth, which would force you to explore to find the best way to the objective.

>>158101285
Because exploring is enjoyable and people like finding secrets and interesting and clever ways to get around stealth levels. Also I enjoy trying to get as perfect a playthrough as possible.

>>158101514
but if exploring is optional, then how is it wrong not to explore?

>>158101949
It's wrong to complain about the game being too short when you actively ignored large parts of it.

Steam sale when

>>158101514
It's enjoyable, but not required to beat the game. I could play thief, steal all of the shit, knock out all the guards, and hide myself in every nook and cranny, but unless I'm playing on the highest difficulty I don't need to do that to enjoy the game. In fact, just playing the game in itself is fun

>>158102272
Wasn't it released like, yesterday? Chill mang

they'res torrents up though

>>158097572 (OP)
I liked the game but like most people have said; it's nothing special and ungodly easy.

>>158102235
that's not the point. The point is the "you're not exploring, you're doing it wrong" excuse is bullshit. A game should be in decent length on its own. No one should be forced to do the side shit to get length out of it. I love exploration as much as you guys, but this isn't an excuse for short as fuck games.

>>158102402
This is my point. Optional shit shouldn't be mandatory for getting decent length from the game.

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>Hostiles killed: 1

FUcking liar game

>>158102719
>>158102878
By that logic speedrunners should complain about games being too short.

>>158102719
probably a shit comparison, but Arkham City was also pretty short if you rushed through the story

The bunch of side quests and riddler challenges are what makes up most of your playtime

>>158102930
you probably let some rats loose or something, bro.

I watched a pack of rats eat a dog once.

Shit was sad.,

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>>158103075
I really just hate rats. Disgusting, disease carrying vermin

Falls short for me.

1. Deus Ex has better level design. Even if you claim that you think "crawling through vents is dumb" - it's less dumb than "using blink to traverse an entire level, making stealth child's play". Furthermore, I could forgive the stale level design if the enemy AI were shit. Seriously - there is virtually no AI. The guards just follow set paths and don't do anything unless you walk up and shake their hand. If you unplug something powered by whale oil, they're like "Oh! The whale oil is out guys!" and nobody even goes to check it out.

A stealth game with braindead AI isn't much of a game.

Well it's not always that simple. Some games track the time spent in pause as well. I fell asleep twice while playing DA2 and bam 20 hours extra.

>complete mission undetected
>X things died
>What the fuck

It would be nice if there could have been some notification. Like... the protagonist muttering or something? I'd forgive even a head's up display "Hey! You killed somebody just now!" So I wouldn't waste my time on some of the longer levels. Fuck.

>>158099921
You kind of did. Dishonored is a great game, but depending on playstyle it can be rather short. 5 hours to go through campaign and not touch side quests at all sounds about right. 15 hours doing most of the side quests, collecting some shit, talking to as many characters as possible and planning your attacks/escapes is more typical.

>>158103485
>"using blink to traverse an entire level, making stealth child's play"
Oh, I didn't know you could get an ability where you could have infinite fucking mana. Care to tell me where it is?

>>158104041
Not him, but Blink only uses as much mana as recharges normally.

Same thing for Dark Eye.

You just can't spam them rapid fire.

So do rats just not give a shit about you for some reason?

The first time I saw rats in the game was when I was in a vent, they swarmed and ate two guards whole in about a minute, and I took that as a sign that I should stay the fuck away from rats and rat hordes.

I can't really tell, but they seem to just ignore me entirely. Is there a story reason for this? What's the point of that horrifying scripted flesh-stripping if the rats aren't at all dangerous?

>>158103485
>one of the best games ever made is better than game x
nice going sherlock

>>158104256
you only need to worry about swams

>>158099921
Dragon's Dogma has great magic, and the melee combat is passable. Its main problem is that the best part of the game is post-campaign.

Don't be a fool like me and actually finish the post-game story, the ending is shit and trudging through the entire game again just to reach the true everfall (post-game) is really fucking tedious and annoying.

>>158104256
The large hordes will attack you, and they will fuck you up.

smaller numbers scurry away though.

Also fish are assholes.

>>158097572 (OP)

How long did it take?

>>158097945
not op
hard mode was extremely easy for me the only time I actually was near death was during one of those plague rats sections a few hours after you escape prison.

Glad I didn't buy this

>lying general?
lying general

>>158104280
Whatever. I'm just saying, it's not worth $60. Maybe half that. It certainly doesn't deserve a 90 on metacritic.

>>158104256
Rats only try to attack if they are swarm-quantity.

>>158104429
About ten hours on the very hard setting. Most of it was planning routes and timing things properly.

It's a difficulty level fitting for today's audience.

Not surprised at all. No one will be talking about this game in a few months. Hope it worth the money.

>GUYS YOUR SUPPOSE TO TAKE YOUR TIME
What if I'm a fast reader and don't have the attention span of a 5 year old child? I took me 7 hours

7 fucking hours to get near 80% of the game completed.
Collecting art , items and random shit
talking to NPCS and beating the game.

the game is horribly short deal with it and combat is literally click and hold CTRL

Hey guys, need some help. I am in the sewers after the plot twist and stuck between.

Helping Granny Rags or helping Slakjaw by killing one or the other

who should I help?

>>158104514
pirated

>>158104640
>he actually engages in combat
What a fucking pleb.

>>158104641

help slackjaw, granny rags is fucking evil.

>>158104654
leech

>>158104418
Took me about 11 hours.
But i'm an exploration whore.
Could have easily been beaten in 3-4 hours.

Dishonored has the same problem as hitman, when you get discovered, you just need to hide in a room and wait for enemies to line up outside the door to be shot in the face.

>>158104687
>implying
one reason I sneaked through half the missions was so I didn't have to deal with that horrible hack and slash combat

>>158104513

That's almost as same as darkness 2 or BF3 sp. Both have been described short, but not this. I wonder how much Bethesda did pay for critics

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>>158104713
EW

DO PEOPLE ACTUALLY FUCKING PLAY STEALTH GAMES LIKE THIS?

HOLY FUCKING SHIT.

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU LIVE WITH YOURSELF

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>>158104710

How long did it take you OP?

>>158104641
Help Slackjaw, he gives you money.
Granny just give you worthless runes, by that time in the game, you should already have all the spells you need. IE: level 2 blink and possession and level 1 agility

>>158104838
8ish hours

>Play Deus Ex HR on hardest setting no kills
>easy as fuck
>OMG best game ever!!

>Playing Dishonoured on very hard no kills
>Actually a bit thought provoking and have died/been seen several times
>Game is shit

You guys are just saying lies because Bethesda is involved and you know it. Grow up.

>>158104641
Slackjaw. Though, there's honestly little point in helping either.

Also, the story in Dishonored just seems like a fucking afterthought. No engrossing characters or story. It's like it's just a vehicle to get you from mission to mission. Not like story needs to be important in a video game, but the best thing about Dishonored is its steam punk aesthetic, and without a story that draws you in, that just kind of falls apart.

I liked the whales/melville stuff, but they didn't do enough with it.

Also, who's heart do you hold? I was thinking it was the queen's, but I'm not sure. I guess the answer's buried in the walls of text you can read? I couldn't make myself sit through and read a bunch of novels on whale vivisection. Been there, done that.

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>>158104713
>Metal Gear Solid has better stealth than this
You have to be shitting me

Dishonored has to have the laziest plot of any game this year.

>>158104982
Who cares, the setting is cool and sneaking is buzzword.

MGS is not vidya.

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>>158104917

Why do people think it's about the difficulty rather than the fun? Think Asura's Wrath.

I have also heard that this is an IP game. Can't wait for more stuff.

>>158104957

>people are good at different things

Imagine that.

You know, I pity you guys.
BTW, 9 hours in and only on the 3rd mission
XDDD 4 HOURZZZ
It's a fun game and worth the money I payed for it, ($64.19).

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>>158104982
>Metal Gear Solid
>Stealth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le23bsVURds

>>158104957
>Play Deus Ex HR on hardest setting no kills
>easy as fuck


Pretty sure it took me a good 10 hours without collecting to beat the game like this.

Took me 8 hours with collecting to beat dishonored on the hardest settings.


in short I call bullshit

>>158105065

>the setting is cool
actually it's soulless and empty because they don't do anything with it. it's just an excuse for the shitty grafics.

>sneaking is fun
sneaking is easy as fuck. there's a shit ton of paths placed just for you to avoid all the difficulty, and even without that you could easily blink your way through the whole game without being seen.

>>158104957
What? "Thought provoking"? What a troll. Every level can be played out using only blink. At no point are you even challenged to chain multiple skills. The combinations you can pull off aren't even that interesting.

Deus Ex has vastly superior level design. Go re-play the first level. Not only do you have TWO objectives (oh my fucking god two of them) but the order in which you do them matters. You can also approach the building from many dozens of angles, through brute force, aggression, stealth, hacking, climbing, etc. the area is also fucking huge; bigger than any single area in dishonored (all of dishonored's levels are tight, choking, narrow corridors for the most part, very few sprawling areas).

>>158104965
This is true but it only helps for improvement. If they were to make a 2 they can improve the characters and maybe some gamplay and world building.

>>158104982
>>158104782
I also read all the books, ALL OF THEM

>>158104965
It's the queen's, her and it has the same voice, she was stabbed in the heart, thus the hole in it with the cogs.

>>158104957
>thought provoking
>Dishonored compared to Deus Ex HR

>>158105151
I take out every gaurd. Maybe that is the difference. I don't just sneak by. That's lame.

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>>158105264
WOW IT'S ALMOST LIKE IT'S NOT LIKE DEUS EX AT ALL.

IT'S ALMOST LIKE IT'S LIKE THIEF OR SOMETHING

WHO WOULD'VE THUNK IT.

>>158105065
>>158105184
I obviously meant the first one. Notice how there's no numbers or subtitles?

>muh value for monies

>main menu
>PRESS SHIFT FOR DLC HURR
>implying bethesda didn't have their hands all over this

>>158105373
That makes you an edgy faggot.

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>>158105418
>pirated it
>7 hours in and loving every minute

Stop being so entitled and love the game like you're SUPPOSED to.

>>158105263
Sad but true. I really liked the setting and some of the details about the whales and magic, but they did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING with it.

It's not a surprise. I know /v/ loves Dark Messiah for whatever reason, but it has the SAME problems Dishonored has. Areas are as small as my apartment (granted, Dishonored is much better in this respect, but not by too much, the largest un-instanced area is probably the Bridge), the story is nearly irrelevant, the level design is basically "two corridors placed side by side", the stealth is uninteresting and the ranged combat is a bore (when you even bother to snipe people? I think I had to use sleeping darts twice).

>get bone charm that lets you choke people out at Mach speed
>practically skip through the rest of the levels

>>158105567
They're entirely different games.

Holy fuck you are dumb.

Where the fuck is the savegame directory for this game?

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>>158104457

yeah, how dare metacritic hand out a score above a 90! HOW DARE THEY

>>158105352

People are making a lot of comparisons to Deus Ex HR, and I think it's pretty good to compare them.

Deus Ex HR you had the straight forward route, then alternate routes that were put in just for the sake of being an alternate route.

In Dishonored, you don't have a main route, or alternate routes, you just have ROUTES. How do you want to go in? That way? Cool, I want to go in this way. It really is refreshing.

>>158105617
>documents>my games>dishonored

>>158105264
I have the plat pleb. HR was a baby game. I knocked out every gaurd with just sneaking behind them or throwing shit to get their attention.

It's been far harder to knock out every fucker in dishonored.

>>158105263
>actually it's soulless and empty because they don't do anything with it. it's just an excuse for the shitty grafics.
Sorry, all games can't be Skyrim.

>sneaking is easy as fuck. there's a shit ton of paths placed just for you to avoid all the difficulty, and even without that you could easily blink your way through the whole game without being seen.
I never said anything about it being hard. I said it was buzzword.
Way to refute my argument you mental midget.

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Now let's talk about a proper 15 hour game that asks for $40 less than Dishitnored.

>Hitman/Dishonored style gameplay
>Accidents like in Blood Money
>open-world
>the child of the devil
>6 years old
>dat 70s horror influence

13 hours of it will most likely be cinematic cutscenes.

>>158105667

that is the polar opposite of reality though

>>158098479
And I've seen Morrowind beaten in 5 minutes, what's your point

Speaking of steampunk.

Bioshock infinite when?

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>>158105667
HR WAS A FUCKING RPG, AND A DEUS EX SEQUEL.

DISHONORED IS A SPIRITUAL SUCCESSOR TO THIEF, EVEN DOWN TO THE TURN OF THE CENTURY ART STYLE

GOD DAMN CHILDREN

>>158105607
But they're not entirely different games. Both are built so that they can be played in whatever way you want. Stealth, sneak, combat. They both have linear stories. They both sport a decent melee combat system.

>>158105714
Weird, I looked there, but I only see config and logs.

>>158105751

>Dishitnored
>Not Shitonered

It's short but I believe it has good replay value. I also explored and attempted to get all the ruins and charms. I thought it was fun but I rented it so no remorse and if I did buy it I would let it gather dust until I piled up enough games to trade into gamestop.

>>158105753
No it's not.

Because of Blink, Agility, and possession you could make your own routes on the fly.

HR had
>Shooty shooty route
>a door with a lock on it
>a bunch of boxes to the side of the shooty shooty route that are conspicuously shadowy

SO EXPURT STELTH GEM

>>158098479
>having low chaos
>hard
You have to kill a lot of enemies to have high chaos
>24 achievements
he probably played the game on easy

Call me when you can get both these achievements in 6 hours

>>158105812
You just described more video games than I can count.

You're a fucking retard for even trying to compare an RPG to a Thief successor.

>>158105386
Yeah, wait til thi4f comes out to show you how shit this game really is. No, in fact, play the other thief games to see how shit this game really is

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>>158105950

>>158105751

Thief collection was sale on steam for 9$. System Shock 2 works now with a french made mod.

>>158105667
There are not routes in Dishonored because you just scale buildings with blink, and then you're done.

At least until you get to the flooded sector. Then you swim underneath the rooftop guards (who... didn't post any watch near the water) and walk through the sewers un-imposed (I guess there are supposed to be weepers there if you have high chaos?)

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>>158105981
>mfw I have played the Thief games
>mfw this is a pretty great spiritual successor

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>>158098479
did you Rambo the fucking thing, I am barley on the third mission and have 8 hours, don't think I was standing around like a retard idling the 2 previous mission, I was actually going through them at average speed and doing the side quests

Still GOTY though.

That goes to Dark SOuls

>>158106101

Does Bethesda have their own sales managament here like EA does?

>>158105812
>DE:HR
>built so that they can be played in whatever way you want.
Did you enjoy playing the boss fights as non-lethal?
>HR rewarded you for being non-lethal, more so than leathal.
>Got a key for that door? Fuck it! Hack it anyways, it gives you XP!

>>158105928

Dishonored has
>straightforward route
>possession to make the straightforward route more straightforward
>super sekret side path that nobody ever thought to guard
>special line of places to blink across that nobody ever notices to make getting to the sekret side path so easy a baby could do it

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Is this the new game to hate?

>>158106152
Wait till Assassins Creed 3

Easy or not, I'm still having fun.

I'm really digging the artstyle and exploration.

>inb4 viral marketing

>>158105978
Dark Messiah is as much an RPG as DA2 was (hint: it's scarcely one). Dark Messiah was made by the same guys who made Dishonored. If you sit down and compare the two, they have similar flaws, even if they play a bit differently (Dishonored has a stronger stealth focus than Dark Messiah).

>>158105928
>Dishonored
>Kill Route
>Magic Route

>HR
>Shoot route
>Hack route
>Email Espionage password route
>Social interaction route
>Stealthy vent route

>>158106220
yes

>>158106201
That's blatantly false.

You can mix and match all the "routes" to progress however you want.

hardest game of 2012 has to goto The Walking Dead.
>dem choices

>>158106101
If you focus on completing the game and ignore all of the stuff to do, you can finish it in no time.

>>158106220
Every walk-forward-to-win movie game piece of shit should be the new game to ate

>>158106235
Assasin's Creed was always shit.

>>158106261
Actually there is a route for the Golden Cat level where

You do a mission for Slackjow and he basically does it for you

>lots of shit to explore

Why are you guys still lying about this, we all have the game now and can call you on this.

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>>158106246
I know that you dumb fuck, but Dark Messiah does not have the flaws you think it has.

It's exactly what it's supposed to be, a straightforward action RPG with a heavy focus on the first-person combat.

AND DISHONORED IS NOT AN RPG

STOP COMPARING IT TO RPGS

THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE

>>158106403

But that's the same as doing it the lethal way, you're just sneaking to different side rooms.

>>158106261
>Shoot route
Who actually did this in HR?
Disregarding that it gave you no bonus XP what so ever, the shooting mechanics were shit in HR.

>>158102941
This would make sense if speed runners didn't have to play the game hundreds of times to get the speeds they do.

For them, the game isn't the one everyone else plays. It's a time trial to them and reaching that requires more work than any casual run through of a game.

These people are casually playing the game and beating it in a short amount of time.

>>158105928
Agility? That skill scarcely matters. You could beat the game without it. it's just a passive buff.

Blink is "one route" all its own. You climb to areas developers intended you to, put no opposition there (besides the occasional weeper) and then you beat the level.

Possession was just annoying to use, I don't even know why you'd bother with it. I found a grand total of one area a mouse could go to that mattered. A grand total of one area a fish could go that mattered. They didn't unlock any major routes and were practically gimmicks for bypassing guards.

ITT:
>Blind hate
>luol EASY FORE HOURS
>thief vs. deus ex vs. dishonored

It took me an average of an hour and a half to complete every mission. If you finished in 4-6 hours you are either rushing or went and read a walk through so you could brag to your friends.

>>158097572 (OP)
Well if you're bored, try playing it without saving.
Even better, no saving and no killing. If you're discovered, you have to run away and hide. If you die, reload mission.
Alternatively, try actually collecting stuff and exploring everything. Doesn't sound like you were doing that.

>>158106181
kinda, they also have defame people here, you know people that tell others a game sucks so they won't get it or buy the game from the reviling company, if they send marketers to viral a game then why can't they send some to defame a game.

>>158106574
So you really did speed blindly through the game.

I didn't even pick up possession but I saw rat holes, crawlspaces, etc. EVERYWHERE.

I guess this just proves me right that the people shitting on the game are just unobservant retards.

>>158106574
>Possession was just annoying to use.
Possess guard, open door, close door, choke/kill guard. How is that annoying?

You could walk through walls of light with a possessed guard as well.

>>158106680
that is just a conspiracy man, nobody knows if there are truly marketers on /v/ making games viral.

>>158106680

Yeah, it just seems too obvious. In addition, how every critic seems to be bought. For example, check PCGamer: Dota2 review was all about community (not mechanics and gameplay) and got around 80 points. Same "critic" gave Dragon age 2 94 points.

wtf

>>158106720
You can't enter most of the ratholes. I tried a few times and gave up.

I scarcely sped through the game. I lingered around in each building looking for notes and books to collect. You didn't prove anything but your own blind devotion to set-piece burger town games.

>>158106152
Flavor of the month at best. Just wait till the holidays roll by and games start coming out the ass

>>158106720

>I didn't even pick up possession but I saw rat holes everywhere

I guarantee 90% of those were invisible walls, because I DID pick up possession and tried using it in various places, to no effect whatsoever.

>>158106593
>playing vidya
>having friends
>posting on /v/
pick /v/

>>158106574
>Blink is "one route" all its own. You climb to areas developers intended you to, put no opposition there (besides the occasional weeper) and then you beat the level.
You are playing the game wrong. No route is completely unguarded.

>>158106504
I went shooty route at the police station once just so I could see what it says on the newspaper

Reloading every time you get spotted doesn't count.

Not to be pedantic OP, but you have any proof that you completed the game in 8 hours twice on hard and very hard?

>>158102878
...it kinda should. It's pretty much the best way it can be done.
Some people just want to finish the game so they can brag about how much of a badass they are on the internet. Some want to actually enjoy it, and play it as much as possible.
The only way to satisfy both sides is have a main line that can be finished relatively quickly and enough content to make the game ten or twenty times as long.

>>158106896
Most of the time, I would possess a guard, walk into a room, see another guard, possession would run out and I'd have to reload. I didn't feel like using dark eye on everything before deciding to possess someone, when blink just lets you go everywhere you could ever want to.

I would have preferred a disguise system like Hitman over possession. It's just a tiring guess-and-check game that punishes you harshly when you mess up. If you ever screw up with a bad blink somehow, you just chug a potion and blink again, guards forget you were even there.

>>158106902

EA already got caught for tweaking metacritic User points for DA2.

>>158106720
You're like my friend you speaks all cut scenes and skips the dialogue. You don't even try to enjoy the game.

>>158107109
The way that guy is talking it's like he's being forced to play the game, forcing himself to complete it as quickly as possible, and then complaining about it not being long enough.

What?

>>158107175
>*skips

>>158107137
>I didn't want to use Dark Eye
>So I did something I didn't like

I don't fucking understand you retards.

You could've enjoyed your Possession with your Dark Eye, but you didn't, and now you're trying to make a point that you yourself have undermined.

How fucked in the head are you.

Did anyone actually BUY the PC version?

>>158106902
So you're new here. Tell me more.
...But possible viral from bethesda going on /v/ aside, this is a really amazing game. I loved Arx Fatalis but this... Arkane outdid themselves.

>>158106994

You aren't playing the game at all, because there are plenty of completely unguarded routes. Abandoned and condemned buildings with conveniently placed balconies and open doors, arbitrarily accessible vents/rooftops, the game lays a direct path to these things and at most there will be one guy looking just the right way for you to knock him out.

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>>158107094

>hurrr you gotta beat it without saving or ur a casual faget

>>158107290
I think it's more that the game is balanced around blink. If I were forced to use more complex strategy, I would. But when the game beats itself, I can hardly be accused of being in the wrong for beating it the easiest way. Using possession is a pain for a first play-through because you don't know where shit is and possession uses mana that doesn't regenerate, so it leaves you more vulnerable when you screw up.

>>158107290
Possesion was fun but I wish they would have a counter or something.

>>158106362
>walk-forward-to-win movie game
Damn, where's that crysis 2 video when I need it

>>158107094
that's what I did. stay mad.

>>158107529
...the game did not beat itself
it is not exactly balanced towards Blink

You took the easiest possible route, and then are complaining that the game let you take the easiest possible route.

It's your fault you didn't enjoy the game.

>>158102878
Then Morrowind is a 10 minute game, IT FUCKING SUCKS.
Super Mario 64 is a 1.5ish hour long game, that game is fucking shit as well.
GTA 4 is a 4 hour long game, shit game.
Bioshock is a 1 hour game, and that is shit too.

If you speed run, pretty much every single game ever released is short as fuck.

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AI at its finest.

>>158106362
>walk-forward-to-win movie game

The correct term for this is "going to burger town", as in, "Every game that sends you to burger town."

>>158107669
That wasn't a speed run, that was a normal playthrough.

Speedrun implies you know the game.

>>158107642

The only way to make it more difficult would be to avoid stealth altogether.

>>158107508
>Quicksave faging.
Stay casual /v/.

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>>158107689
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYNcE1LlZFk&feature=g-all-u

>>158107669
Those are extreme examples of speedrunning.

Most people are not actually speedrunning; they're playing the game blind and don't feel like pacing around for 2 hours in one level to find every stupid book the developers hid behind a couch. They're beating the game in <6 hours. It's fucking short. Get over it. Diablo 3 is a longer game. I can get to Merciless in Path of Exile in a longer amount of play time.

>>158107689
1) It's dark as hell I can't hardly see shit. 2) It looks like you just piled bodies in one spot. How is that bad ai?

>>158107321
do you not see all these steam screenshots you fucking retard

>>158107508
Well casual might be a bit of an overstatement but... yeah. Kinda.
Saves at any spot and quicksaves, while certainly convenient, can make any game ridiculously easy.

>>158107669
Lets see you trying to beat those games in the alloted time slots for the FIRST TIME.

Dishonored is casual blunder of the year, deal with it scrub

>>158107809
>HEY! look at me! I'm ignoring 40% of the game and only doing the main storyline and calling it a normal playthrough.

>>158107828
>lelelel auto-saves and checkpoint are better

If quicksaving was removed from Dishonored I think they would lose over half of their current fanboys.

>>158107839
>HE IZ MAKING FUN OF THE GAME I LIKE THIS XDDDDD

>>158107953
They each came, one at a time, curious about why there wasn't a guard patrolling a certain hallway.

Do you get it now?

>>158108065
Skyrim is shorter, if you only do the main quest.

GTA 4 effective play time (excluding the boring fucking travel time to each story mission) is just slightly longer.

Both of those can be done, first time you play the game.

>>158108595
No they didn't. You piled them there.

>>158108125
Instead of making the game short enough to beat it while taking a piss, why not make it longer? Why give the option to beat it so quickly, if you're not supposed to play that way?

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Quick question. In game, are things louder when they are behind you?

Everytime I play this game things are very quiet (usually people/those audiograph mabobbers) when I face them, but as soon as I turn around they have the booming voice of god.

>>158108595
Hitman:BM guards did the exact same thing, worse as in you kill each one of them with one shot, and that game is awsome.

>>158108749
BECAUSE IT'S AN OPTION

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE WORD "OPTION" MEANS?

CLEARLY NOT

>>158108813
Get better speakers or whatever thing plays your audio.

>>158108749
Make it longer how?
By having you drive the boat 20 minutes to every mission instead of the boatman, while evading guards?

While that sounds cool and all, it will just turn into the problem Ass Creed 1 had, where half the game was getting to the mission area?

>>158108906
>Thinking that beating the game is an option
It's a short game.
The optional stuff is the side quest shit, not the main quest.

You can't skip main quest shit.

>>158108482
>Game has shitty AI and a story comparable to bioshock 2 LE EX DEEDEEDEE REDDIT

>>158108813
backwards audio equipment

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>>158108949
>get better headphones

pic related, it's my Sennheisers

>>158109151
We have been over this.

All games that have side missions are short if you skip them.

>>158109269
>backwards audio

>audio to my left plays in left speaker

>audio to my right plays in right speaker

Shit is just louder behind me.

I promise you. Everything is hooked up correctly.

>>158109343
Yes.
And the side stuff is the optional stuff, not the main game.

The main game can be longer.

All I can think about is how over looked Darksiders 2 was.

>>158109448
It's all part of the game.

There is no "main game" and "sub game".

You rushed through the story, just admit it.

>>158109343

Like Planescape Torment and Dragon age: origins? Or BL2?

>>158109627
Yes

Yes

Yes

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>>158106343
>If you ignore a lot of the game it goes by faster

>>158108336
I love the fuck out of this game and I don't save at all because I'm not a pussy.
Also, I don't kill anyone.
Also, I have completed every mission without being seen so far.

>>158109559

Here was also guy, who did all the side quests, and it was still short. I'm really starting suspect marketing here.

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>>158109627
>comparing RPGs to a stealth game

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>>158109343

>>158099650

Yeah because the maps were fucking huge so half the time is getting from one place to another

>>158109448
>And the side stuff is the optional stuff, not the main game.

Nigga, you dumb, that's like saying that a subplot of a movie is not the movie.

>>158109731

Ok. Deus ex: hr. System Shock 2. Thief series. What else? Crysis?

>>158109846
>RPG
>RPG
>Thief games aren't much longer, though they are harder
>implying Crysis was long

>>158109846
>Crysis
>CoD5 length
Pick two.

>>158109938

Allright, So I can't compare other fps games Dishonored that are similar to it? What I can compare it to then?

>implying crysis was longer than disnuggetered

>>158110193
Thief.

Which you did.

Which we already said was about as long, but harder.

So there you go, quit bitching.

Still playing.

Just finished taking care of the brothers.

Overall I've spent about 4-5 hours? I kept having to restart to get perfect stealth without notifying shit.

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>>158110193
>Dishonored
>FPS

>these are the people who play stealth games now

>This is the modern CoD audience

>Stealth games are dead

>>158105184
>>guy has clearly memorized the game inside out
>>HURRRR NO STEALTH

You can do the same shit in Splinter Cell and Fucking Thief you biased faggot.

>>158110323

Oh, so everyone who criticizes lenght of D is now a bitch. Good riddance.

>>158110406

>This is the modern CoD audience
>Who thinks Deus Ex:HR as RPG

You know what takes long in this game? Non-lethal taking down everyone. Not by darts, fucking just getting around behind someone. So by the end of the quest everyone is down, I've collected everything. Feels good, and it takes a while, especially with those teleporting guys and guys with dogs.

>>158109938
>>Thief games aren't much longer, though they are harder
You could finish the first two without even doing any stealth, just run forward. No, wait, run strafeworward because the engine was dumb and that was faster. You'd outrun everyone with melee and get behind a corner before archers shot you.
I love the fuck out of Thief, but it wasn't hard. The stealth was best in any game so far, but they are not hard.

>Raphael Colantonio has described Dishonored's artificial intelligence as "analog AI", meaning that the AI personality is structured along a spectrum, instead of on/off states, and a number of characteristics are modified on the fly.

What a crock of bullshit.

guys which crack do I get?
I don;t no what do

>>158110573
>Deus Ex
>Not an RPG

I don't see what you're getting at here.

>>158110651

Although Metal Age is twice of lenght Dishonored

>>158110639

I did that as well. Did you drag everyone to trashcans? I ended up doing that so no body was found at the end of missions. Took extra time, but had to be thorough.

>>158110837

>Deus Ex
>Not an Stealth game

I don't see what you're getting at here.

>>158110921
It's not.

That's like saying Skyrim is a stealth game.

>>158110639
Taking down is for taffers.
Real professionals finish a level with nothing but stealth.

>>158110953

So Skyrim and Deus Ex:HR are similar. What were you again saying about CoD generation?

>>158110573
Are you 12 or are you just mentally handicapped?

>Bitching =/= Being a bitch

>Thinks that Deus Ex:HR is a stealth game, and probably pronounces it "DOOS ECKS"!

>>158110994

Dunno man, all you have to do is posess a rat and go through a few tunnels with some of these missions. But if your personal vendetta is to go after every guard, it's pretty legit at the end of the mission.

>>158110776
>Listen to two guards talking
>Stealth choke one of them as soon as they finish talking
>Other guard looks back, doesn't even notice the missing guard

YOU MADE SOMEONE A WIDOW

>>158111265
>Playing on easy.

>>158111151

No need to go butthurt, if I say bad things about your fanboyoism

>>158111265
Because you didn't alert him.

Now if you spook a guard, they become much more observant, and start scanning high and low for you instead of just being on their normal routine routes.

>>158111265

>Never seen batman do this

nigga read some comics

>>158111375
>Subtle way of saying "u mad?"
Yeah, you're probably both.

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>mfw most people play with the hand-holding objective markers on

It's fucking terrible that it's on by default.

If I want to take my time completing each mission and going through all the details is Dishonored worth the buy or pirate? I was recently playing through the metal age and it feels a lot less smoother than I remember. I just want to eavesdrop, explore, and maybe stack knocked out guards in a corner.

>>158105773
Not from the first play though.

>>158111774

Then this game is for you. AInt gonna suggest either because I don't want that to be influencing.

But yeah. with your mask you can zoom and listen in on guards, exploring is pretty good when you're looking for bones and runes (without markers on of course)

>>158106343

no shit. Welcome to every videogame ever made.

>>158111726
What is terrible is that they even EXIST.

>>158112130
I agree, but if it wasn't on by default most people wouldn't be using it

>>158111774
To draw it out even longer, and make it at least a bit challenging, don't be a save whore. And play it on hard or very hard.

And turn off markers obviously.

>>158111532
>butthurt
>subtle way of saying "u mad"
Butthurt was prominent on /v/ way before "u mad".
Get your shit right.

inb4 you call me out on ad hominem and being the guy you're arguing with. I actually think that other dude is a moron.